Ashes: Australia v England, third Test, day two, Perth, as it happened

England close day two of the third Test on 180-4, still trailing Australia by 205, after losing Alastair Cook and Kevin Pietersen in quick succession.

14 December 2013 Last updated at 02:00

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As it happened

  1. 1022: 

    So there you have it. Geoffrey came in off his long run in his TMS analysis. Do you agree with his sentiments? I'm signing off now, but be sure to follow all the reaction to the day's play on the BBC Sport website, including blogs from our men in Perth - Tom Fordyce and Jonathan Agnew. Over on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra, you can listen to a replay of the day's action. See you in the early hours of tomorrow...

  2. 1020: 

    England batsman Michael Carberry: "Australia are slightly in the ascendancy, but we scrapped hard and played well in some tough spells.

    "Cookie has had a lot on his plate in the last few days, but we know he is a very determined guy. In the context of the game, he played the innings that we needed.

    "I've really enjoyed batting in Australia. It's tough up front, but once you get through the new ball it can be a nice place to bat."

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's all about these two [Ian Bell and Ben Stokes] and Matt Prior because we can't trust the tail. I thought we could get an honourable draw but now I'm looking at a loss. We are not short of talent, but in this series we are short of things between the ears. The way we bowl, the way we bat, the selection before the series - they are not thinking right."

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Pietersen is a guy who has does some spectacular things for England. His innings in Mumbai, and Colombo, and Headingley against the South African quicks were all fantastic. But when it comes to this type of innings when he has to bat through with patience against mean, tight disciplined bowling, he just can't do it. He bottles it. You just know he's going to do something daft. And if we can see that from up here, the Australian players can definitely see it."

  5. 1013: 
    Craig McDermott

    Australia bowling coach Craig McDermott: "We got our act together after the break and it was a great end of the day to get those two wickets.

    "Watto is back to his best and Lyon got Cook for the second time this series. Everyone keeps chipping in, it's a really good all-round attack.

    "We have to start well tomorrow, hopefully get a wicket in the first 12 overs then get stuck in with the new ball.

    "Short-pitched bowling is not the way to go, you have to keep the ball up, which is why we were disappointed with how we started."

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "They bowled brilliantly. They bowled aggressively to a disciplined line, denying us runs. They have all parts of their armoury functioning well. They are four decent bowlers who dry up the runs and squeeze the pressure and it looks so much hard work for England to bat."

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    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Australia are in charge. What's sad is that the day promised so much for England and then faded away. It has been like so many other days. England can't sustain it, then mistakes creep in and we lose control of the game and Australia grab it."

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    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "This is England's opportunity to make sure they have learnt from the last two games. They just need to look to get close to this 385. If they could do that, they might just get that buzz in the dressing-room thinking they can win the game. They haven't had that in the first two Tests. They are in the game.

    "Pietersen deserves the criticism. He is a senior player and his five dismissals have not been good enough. With the level of performance we have seen from him, he is too good a player to be playing shots like he has in this series."

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  9. 1010: 

    England looked like they had recovered when they battled their way to 136-2, but skipper Alastair Cook (72) sliced to gully and let Australia back in. The tourists were left relying on Kevin Pietersen, who passed 8,000 Test runs during the course of his innings before inexplicably lofting a catch to mid-on. England were reeling on 146-4 but recovered their composure to close on 180-4 - still 205 runs in arrears. Here's what the Test Match Special lads think about it all...

  10. 1007: 

    England's reply started well - Alastair Cook and Michael Carberry putting on 85 for the first wicket before the latter played on to Ryan Harris. Joe Root followed soon after, caught behind off Shane Watson. He reviewed the umpire's decision to give him out but, because there was no clear evidence to overturn the decision, he was given out for an edge which was very difficult to make out on numerous replays.

  11. 1005: 

    Right then. Where to start? Well, England were pretty handy with the ball in the morning session - taking the last four Australian wickets for 59 runs. Stuart Broad finished with 3-100 while James Anderson helped himself to a couple of wickets, but Peter Siddle (21) and Nathan Lyon (17) put on 31 runs for the 10th wicket to annoy the tourists.

  12. 1003: 

    BBC Sport brings you all the news and analysis from the third Test throughout the day. BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew and chief sports writer Tom Fordyce are in Perth, while you can see everything you've missed at-a-glance with our Ashes catch-up.

    In addition, you can hear the Pint-sized Ashes two-minute round-up, as well as the thoughts of Aggers and Boycott in the TMS podcast.

  13. 1003:  

    Want to relive all the overnight action? BBC Radio 5 live sports extra will replay the entire day's play from 1100 GMT, and will play highlights from the close of play until then. And each morning, BBC Radio 5 live will bring all the best analysis and reaction on Ashes Breakfast from 0600 GMT. You can hear both 5 live and 5 live sports extra on digital radio, online, and via the BBC iPlayer Radio app and BBC Sport app.

  14. 1002: 

    We'll get you all the TMS reaction to the second day shortly, but let me begin with a couple of reminders of how you can catch up with the night's play before recapping it all for you.

  15. 1000: 
    CLOSE OF PLAY- Eng 180-4 (Bell 9*, Stokes 14*)

    Last over of the day. Mitchell Johnson to Ben Stokes. Between deliveries, Ian Bell walks down the wicket and offers words of encouragement to his younger partner. Johnson bowls an absolute crackerjack of a ball which squares up Stokes, but the delivery is too good and too fast to find the outside edge. Stokes laughs it off and defiantly prods away the rest of the over. Well played, young man. That's the close of the second day, with England 205 runs behind and six wickets in hand.

    Bowling figures: Harris 15-7-26-1, Johnson 15-6-43-0, Watson 9-2-32-1, Siddle 13-5-27-1, Lyon 16-6-39-1.


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    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "If England can get to 330, they will be closer than they have been in either of the first two Tests and still in with a chance. They really don't want to be chasing too many on this pitch with those cracks opening up."

  17. 0955: 
    Eng 180-4 (Bell 9*, Stokes 14*)

    A good move from Michael Clarke as he winds up Shane Watson for another chuck. With his tempting outswingers, Watson might induce a rash shot from the England batsmen. Ben Stokes tickles a single down the leg side and lets Ian Bell play out the rest of the over. Good plan.


    Mike Bell in Ashford: If England lose a wicket now, they should NOT send in a nightwatchman. It is a negative move, and opponents see it as such. Brad Haddin came in with 20 minutes to go in the last Test, got a hundred. Enough said.

  19. 0950: 
    Eng 179-4 (Trail by 206)

    Ian Bell and Ben Stokes are doing plenty of patting down as the cracks on the Waca pitch get ever wider. You could lose a set of keys down them at the moment. Mitchell Johnson, backside sticking out, charges in for one last chug but Ian Bell plays the ball back to him with considerable ease. He might be quick, but Bell's got an extra few yards in his head these days. Maiden over...10 minutes until the close.

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    Sean via text: England are in the same position Australia were in their first innings: can we now expect the tail to wag to get us to 400 please?

  21. 0945: 
    Eng 179-4 (Bell 9*, Stokes 13*)
    Nathan Lyon

    Ben Stokes is not going to let Nathan Lyon have it all his own way as he dances down the track and cracks four straight down the ground. He then unfurls a lovely shot through the covers which also runs away to the boundary. Nice stuff, Stokesy. Here comes MJ...

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "I reckon we are going to see Mitchell Johnson again soon to get this crowd on its feet, clapping away. He'll be fizzing them down."

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  23. 0942: 
    Eng 171-4

    Mitchell Johnson is ominously going through a few stretches in the outfield as we inch towards the 1000 GMT close of play. Ryan Harris continues to bustle in too, dreaming of that ice bath in half an hour. Ian Bell is not getting too bogged down as he pulls four to the boundary.

  24. 0938: 
    Eng 167-4 (Bell 5*, Stokes 5*)

    There is something very old school about Brad Haddin behind the stumps. His sweat-stained, suncream-tainted baggy green clings tightly to his head and his energy behind the stumps is reminiscent of Ian Healy. George Bailey is like a grinning Joker (Batman-style) under the helmet at short leg and Michael Clarke is also in close proximity. It must feel all so claustrophobic for poor Ben Stokes. Four leg byes the highlight of another quality Nathan Lyon over.

  25. 0935: 
    Eng 162-4

    Perhaps the biggest clue that the evening is closing in is the amount of seagulls grazing in the outfield. Another tidy over from Ryan Harris, just one run coming off Ian Bell's bat.


    Jack Wieland: I love the fickle nature of England fans - a few poor innings' and "his best days are behind him." If he came out and hit 100 in the second innings he would be our "best batsman ever" again.

  27. 0932: 
    Eng 161-4 (Bell 3*, Stokes 5*)

    Ben Stokes is showing admirable discipline against the turning delivery - only playing the ball when he needs to. Perhaps the calming influence of Ian Bell is rubbing off. Just one run from another tidy Nathan Lyon over.

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    Alex: Feel a lot better about England's innings when Blowers is on the mic. Can he occasionally have a calming word with KP.

  29. 0928: 
    Eng 160-4

    I've heard rhinos can be pretty swift across the ground when they want to be. Australia's very own Rhino Harris is not as fleet-footed but he certainly gets the ball down the other end at a decent lick. I'd also go as far to say that he's the home side's most skilful bowler. He bowls a probing line and length to Ben Stokes but the young all-rounder stands firm.

  30. 0924: 
    Eng 160-4 (Bell 2*, Stokes 5*)

    Nathan Lyon, war paint plastered across his face and collars upturned, comes round the wicket to Ian Bell as he tries to run the ball past the outside edge. Suddenly, Australia look like they have 20 fielders out there as every shot picks out a man. Just two leg byes from the over.

  31. 0921: 
    Eng 158-4

    Kevin Pietersen might have 8,000 Test runs in the bank, but it seems he's running out of credit with some people. Ian Bell has faced similar criticism in the past but he's England's man for a crisis these days. He's battling away in the middle - copping one on the gloves as Peter Siddle gets one to spit. Another short ball follows but the Warwickshire batsman pulls it for a single. Three from the over.

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    Paul in Didcot: How does Pietersen get in the England team? He does not prize his wicket and he is so predictable. A dream for Australia's bowlers.

  33. 0917: 
    Eng 155-4 (Bell 1*, Stokes 4*)

    Is it me or has Nathan Lyon got considerably more hair than last summer in England? It's amazing what a few victories can do. Now he's a maiden over-bowling wicket-taking demon. Or something like that.

  34. 0911: 
    DRINKS BREAK- Eng 155-4
    Australia celebrate a wicket

    The biggest compliment I can give Australia's bowling attack is that their performance is reminiscent of England in recent years. Their frontline bowlers have been all over the batsmen and Peter Siddle and Nathan Lyon could not have offered much better support. Huge credit to bowling coach Craig McDermott. A maiden over and drinks...

    Bowling figures: Harris 12-6-21-1, Johnson 13-4-43-0, Watson 8-2-31-1, Siddle 12-5-25-1, Lyon 11-4-29-1.


    Owen (near Paris): Re. KP's dismissal, people will say that's just the way he plays. But what if that's the wrong way?

  36. 0908: 
    Eng 155-4 (Bell 1*, Stokes 4*)

    The ball is spitting off the pitch for Nathan Lyon now - as if Ian Bell and Ben Stokes don't have enough to deal with. The latter is keeping his head so far as he carves a short ball through the off side for four. Get a big score here and we know the young all-rounder is the real deal.

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    Ryan in London: How many poor shots did KP play in that innings? That was inevitable. His best days are behind him, sadly.

  38. 0905: 
    Eng 147-4

    KP sits behind dark shades and sips water alone on the England players' balcony. Penny for his thoughts? Ian Bell is defiant against Peter Siddle, playing out a probing maiden as England's lower order (probably) sit drawing lots in the dressing room to determine who will be nightwatchman. Pad up, Jimmy.

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    Anonymous: "Ian in Herts (0851): - you have obviously been a bad boy this year!"

  40. 0900: 
    Eng 147-4 (Bell 1*, Stokes 0*)

    Even if Kevin Pietersen had cleared Mitchell Johnson at mid-on and the ball had raced away for four, we would be criticising the poor choice of shots. The pressure is on now as Ian Bell gets off the mark with a single off Nathan Lyon.

  41. 0856: 
    Eng 146-4

    Oh for the time England were 85-0. England have taken their second standing count in the last 20 minutes. Ben Stokes is the new man to the crease. Time for a hero.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Australia know what to do to keep Kevin bogged down. They just knew that eventually the dam would break. He's played some wonderful innings but this is not his forte. The likes of Cooky and Bell have to talk to him and tell him to keep playing in this sensible vein."

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  43. 0854: 
    WICKET- Pietersen c Johnson b Siddle 19 (Eng 146-4)
    Peter Siddle celebrates the dismissal of Kevin Pietersen

    If you don't laugh, you will cry. After just about surviving for 58 balls, Kevin Pietersen slogs wildly at a half-tracker and slaps the ball straight to Mitchell Johnson at mid-on. On such moments...

    Fall of wickets: 1-85 (Carberry 43), 2-90 (Root 4), 3-136 (Cook 72), 4-146 (Pietersen 19)

    Siddle's figures: 9.5-2-25-1


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    Ian in Herts: Dear Santa, could you please bring me England batsmen who don't get themselves out? Pretty please!

  45. 0851: 
    Eng 146-3 (Pietersen 19*, Bell 0*)

    Nathan Lyon must be the unsung hero of this series for Australia. How many key wickets has he taken? He might look innocuous but he's certainly effective and bowls to some fine plans laid out by coach Darren Lehmann. He races through another maiden over.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "It I was batting with KP I would tell him to engage his brain before he plays a shot. Mitchell Johnson probably only has one more over so just burn him out. You have almost won the battle. Don't give it away now."

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    James Toyer: I really hope this isn't the beginnings of a collapse. We need to bat the day out. KP and Bell better not do anything stupid

  48. 0844: 
    Eng 146-3

    Kevin Pietersen, your country needs you.

    They certainly need you not to be edging fours off Mitchell Johnson - even if it does take you past 8,000 Test match runs. The Aussies are seriously pumped now and the chin music is pretty frightening. There is some respite though, when MJ goes for a yorker and KP digs it out for four. Each delivery is like theatre - Pietersen slogging another half-tracker straight into the air and into the open spaces of the outfield. How's everyone's ticker?

  49. 0842: 
    Eng 136-3 (Pietersen 8*, Bell 0*)

    Is there a dismissal which brings about more elation for the opposition and more gut-wrenching cries of oh no than when Alastair Cook is dug out from the crease?

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "You see the ball short outside off stump so you think four and it just bounces on you. You hit it ok but you hit it at the man. It is not the spin you have to be careful of, it's the bounce."

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  51. 0840: 
    WICKET- Cook c Warner b Lyon 72 (Eng 136-3)
    David Warner and Michael Clarke

    Oh no. I don't know what else to say. Alastair Cook tries to cut Nathan Lyon but slices the ball straight to a fist-pumping David Warner at point. Didn't the skipper learn anything from Warner's first-innings dismissal?

    Cook stats: 212 minutes, 153 balls, 10 fours

    Fall of wickets: 1-85 (Carberry 43), 2-90 (Root 4), 3-136 (Cook 72)

    Lyon's figures: 7.4-3-24-1


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  52. 0837: 
    Eng 132-2

    Mitchell Johnson is still revved up, with his biker-like moustache bristling in the late-evening Perth sunshine. The Aussie paceman's skipper Michael Clarke implores more support from the crowd and they respond in kind - clapping their hero all the way to the wicket as he finds the middle of the pitch and bangs one in underneath Alastair Cook's throat. It's met with stout resistance and England solider on.

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    Andrew Blewden: Good to wake up to hear of signs of life in the England team for once! Slightly worried about KP though, stethoscope anyone?

  54. 0832: 
    Eng 127-2 (Cook 63*, Pietersen 9*)

    It's time to make that unbeaten 60 a daddy hundred, Alastair. The England skipper has previous in Perth of course - scoring a century here in 2006-07. He adds another three to his score by pushing a gentle Shane Watson inswinger into the leg side. So far, so good.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "The Joe Root decision had to stand for me. There was not enough evidence to give him not out. Something showed up on Snicko and sometimes you have to be realistic and say the third umpire made the best decision he could."

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  56. 0828: 
    Eng 123-2 (Cook 60*, Pietersen 8*)

    Cheers Sam, good work. The shadows are lengthening on the Waca pitch now and Mitchell Johnson is back into the attack, perhaps for one final burst. He's dangling the carrot outside off stump and Kevin Pietersen flays his stick - almost edging to the gully but relieved to see the ball drop short. He responds by creaming a boundary through mid-off. Typical KP.

  57. 0823:  

    Want to relive all the overnight action? BBC Radio 5 live sports extra will replay the entire day's play from 1100 GMT, and will play highlights from the close of play until then. Also this morning, BBC Radio 5 live will bring all the best analysis and reaction on Ashes Breakfast from 0600 GMT. You can hear both 5 live and 5 live sports extra on digital radio, online, and via the BBC iPlayer Radio app and BBC Sport app.

  58. 0821: 
    DRINKS BREAK- Eng 118-2

    TV are showing some overheads of the pitch and there are some pretty alarming cracks opening up right down the middle of it. Cook steers Watson with soft hands through third man for four. On comes the drinks truck, and that's my cue to hand over to Marc Higginson for the rest of the day.

    Bowling figures: Harris 12-6-21-1, Johnson 10-4-24-0, Watson 7-2-27-1, Siddle 9-2-25-0, Lyon 7-3-20-0.

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    Mike, irritable in London: Ball starts swinging and we look baffled. Not as if Dynamo is shuffling his pack and sending down hand grenades, is it?

  60. 0817: 
    Eng 113-2

    A rare bad ball from Harris is given the treatment by Cook. It's a wide half-volley on off stump and Cook drives it square for a very welcome four.

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    Louis Samuels: Come on Chef! If anyone can single-handedly drag us out of this mire it's you! And maybe Ian Bell.

    Kieran Maguire: How can England win a Test match if batting at 2.5 runs an over?

  62. 0812: 
    Eng 109-2 (Cook 52, Pietersen 3)

    Single to Cook then five dots from Watson to Pietersen. This really is about as restrained as I have seen KP. He has three runs from 39 balls. He is either setting himself for a big hundred, or he's about to do something very silly.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "People might ask why Kevin Pietersen playing like this is a positive, but most of KP's best innings have started this way."

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    Henry Blofeld, BBC Test Match Special

    "It must be frustrating Kevin Pietersen that he can't find any form, let alone the middle of the bat. He's doing his best to stay there and not give his wicket away."

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  65. 0808: 
    Eng 108-2

    Another snorter from Harris beats Pietersen all ends up. The ball is moving around out there and England are right to be in survival mode at the moment. There will be easier times to bat than this and these two just need to make sure they stick around long enough to take advantage of them.

  66. 0805: 

    It's just gone 8am here in the UK. Time to fill you in on today's events. England bowled out Australia for 385 after taking their last four wickets for 59 runs.

    Cook and Carberry then added 85 for the first wicket before the latter played on for 43. Joe Root then fell for four in highly controversial circumstances, failing to overturn the on-field umpire's decision even though technology showed no real evidence of an edge.

    The England captain has just reached his fifty, in tandem with a typically jumpy Kevin Pietersen.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "It hasn't looked Cook's best 50 but he got there and that's just what England need at the moment. He's a class player."

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  68. 0804: 
    COOK FIFTY- Eng 108-2

    Cook gets to his half-century with a late cut at Peter Siddle for four. His 34th Test fifty took 127 balls.

    Cook stats: 176 minutes, six fours.

  69. 0800: 
    Eng 102-2

    Harris replaces Johnson. As I was saying, there's no respite. Wafty-wafty from Pietersen.

    Meanwhile, television cameras have captured the moment when Joe Root returned to the England dressing-room after his dismissal. Let's just say any object within a two-yard radius of him was given a good kicking!

  70. 0755: 
    Eng 102-2

    There's no respite from the Aussie attack. No weak link. Cook, whose scoring rate has slowed alarmingly lately, is beaten by Siddle outside off stump. Then he gets an inside edge onto his pads. The England captain is being given a real working over here.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special
    Kevin Pietersen and Mitchell Johnson

    "If I was Mitchell Johnson I'd be tempted to bowl some more short stuff at Kevin Pietersen - he's not a batsman who likes to duck under the ball. He likes to feel ball on bat. Neither man is going to take a backward step - it's two alpha males going at each other."

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  72. 0751: 
    Eng 97-2 (Cook 45, Pietersen 3)

    There's a good battle out there between Pietersen and Johnson at the moment and plenty of verbals too. Johnson is peppering his man with short balls, Pietersen is ducking and weaving and the crowd are lapping it up.


    Jeremy in London: Lads, I know we're 2-0 down so the sledging will already be pretty merciless for my friend Simon, marrying an Aussie today in London with most of her family there, as he walks his last 22 yards as a free man. Please just bat out the day? Just this once. So at least her dad doesn't mention it in the speech...

  74. 0745: 
    Eng 95-2

    It's almost an action replay as Pietersen - facing his nemesis Siddle - pushes to cover where Lyon picks up and just misses the stumps with his shy.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "Kevin Pietersen really had to stretch his legs to get that single. He felt his hamstring after it."

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  76. 0742: 
    Eng 94-2 (Cook 44, Pietersen 1)

    Pietersen is almost tempted in playing at a short ball down the leg side but wisely thinks better of it. Not so wise this time. A crazy tip and run to get off the mark almost brings about his downfall but the shy misses the stumps.

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    Tom Vetcher: Root was out. It may have been a feather of a touch, but Snicko showed the noise. Good decision by the umpires.

    Dean East: Root looks out less & less each time I see the replay.

  78. 0736: 
    Eng 93-2
    Alastair Cook

    Cook leans back and cracks Peter Siddle through the covers for two. The England skipper is now within six runs of his demi-ton.

  79. 0733: 
    Eng 91-2

    Unlike you lot, England need to put the Root DRS decision out of their minds and focus on the job in hand. Here come KP and Cook. Minimum overs remaining 37.

    Simon Hughes, BBC Test Match Special

    "I think Carberry is a reassuring presence out there but I doubt whether he can take his game to the next level. He is solid but I'm not sure he'll ever be world-class like a Steve Waugh or Graham Gooch. Does he have another gear to his game? Against a top-class team, I'm not sure he will really extend himself to scores consistently above 40."

    Ed Smith, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Michael Carberry's game and ability is well suited to Test cricket - he is very compact and balanced. The one area where he has made a few errors is in his shot selection, but he can tighten that up. Don't rule him out of a long-term future in the England team just because he is 33. Look at Brad Haddin, he is 36 and playing as well as ever."

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    And a view from the other end of the spectrum for good balance:

    From Kully in Leeds: England fans weren't complaining when the Aussies were getting horrendous umpiring decisions involving DRS in the summer. You have to take the rough with the smooth.

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    Phil in Wrexham: With Root getting a bad decision, where is the match referee in this situation? Surely the England management must appeal and get Root reinstated?


    Ben Matthews: If Real-time Snicko shows the sound after the ball has already passed the bat, how is that not conclusive? If they don't trust the technology then they shouldn't be using it.


    Lots of you are still fuming over Joe Root's controversial DRS dismissal...

  86. 0723: 

    England scored only 67 runs in that session for the loss of two wickets. Australia did very well to throttle the scoring rate and will be delighted with that double strike. I've said it before and I'll say it again: this next session is a big one.


    Paul in Thailand: Re: ill-fitting names... Boycott - he always turns up.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "I imagine we'll see Peter Siddle having a bowl at Kevin Pietersen after tea, trying to block him up outside off stump and frustrate him in the corridor of uncertainty."

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  89. 0713: 
    TEA INTERVAL- Eng 91-2

    The runs have dried up in the last couple of overs as Australia try to strike a decisive blow in this match and series. Mitchell Johnson sends us into tea with a maiden - but not before some nervy batting from Kevin Pietersen along the way. Tense stuff.

    Bowling figures: Harris 9-4-17-1, Johnson 8-4-21-0, Watson 5-2-21-1, Siddle 5-2-11-0, Lyon 7-3-20-0.


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  90. 0709: 
    Eng 91-2

    This is a really good spell from Watson - right on the money. He rounds off a maiden with a peach of a ball, angled across Cook, making him play and narrowly eluding the edge.

    Tom Fordyce, Chief sports writer at the Waca

    "When is an edge not an edge? If you've been bemoaning the lack of DRS arguments in the series so far, that Joe Root dismissal contains enough ugly nuances to last a series. Root was convinced he hadn't he hit it; had the on-field umpire not given it, third umpire Tony Hill wouldn't have changed the decision. And therein lies the problem with the review system: rather than guaranteeing clarity, it only adds to the confusion around the really controversial ones."

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    Jay: Nothing on Hot Spot. Nothing on Snicko. Daylight between bat and ball. That's not conclusive enough to overturn? How?

    Michael Sneddon: I hope Pietersen smacks a century now. Justice for Joe Root.

  93. 0705: 
    Eng 91-2 (Cook 41, Pietersen 0)

    Here goes Cook, taking on the short ball. Why now Alastair? It's in the air for a bit, but lands safely and gets him a single.

  94. 0703: 
    Eng 90-2

    We've waited a while in this series for a controversial DRS moment but this is a big one. I can hear shouts of "Shame on you umpire" as Pietersen walks out to bat. He gets solidly behind his first ball.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "I don't mind the umpires taking their time over these things. They need to make sure they get the right decision. Joe Root might not have nicked that but the guidelines are that there needs to be clear evidence for the umpire's decision to be overturned."

  97. 0657: 
    WICKET- Root c Haddin b Watson 4 (Eng 90-2)
    Joe Root

    Root leaves the field shaking his head in disbelief. I just don't think there was enough evidence there for the third umpire to overturn the decision from big Marais.

    Fall of wicket: 1-85 (Carberry), 2-90 (Root)

    Watson's figures: 3.5-0-21-1


    Full match scorecard

  98. 0655: 

    Nothing obvious on HotSpot. Real-time Snicko suggests a little noise. It's not conclusive but can they really overrule the decision?

  99. 0654: 

    Haddin throws the ball up. Watson celebrates. Umpire Erasmus lifts the finger. Root reviews. Pure unscripted drama.

  100. 0652: 
    Eng 86-1

    Shape for Watto, moving away and snaking past Root's outside edge. Swing for the bowler suggests the Freemantle Doctor is starting to blow down the ground, and right on cue, TV shows the flags fluttering in the breeze.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "If England keep batting until tomorrow afternoon, Mitchell Johnson will be two feet shorter, not as fast and not as scary."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  102. 0650: 
    APPEAL - NOT OUT- Eng 90-1 (Cook 41, Root 4)

    Now then, it has been 28 overs over eight separate spells since Mitchell Johnson last took a wicket. Kiss of death? He erupts into a big appeal as the ball thuds into Cook's pad in front of leg stump. They think about a review but opt against. Good decision - it was sliding down.


    Max Adams: The Hussey brothers weren't particularly well named. Gritty Ausie cricketers with a surname that alludes to troublesome divas.

  104. 0644: 
    ASHES CATCH-UP- Eng 90-1

    If you are just tuning in, I can inform you that it has been a good day for England so far. They took the last four Australia wickets for 59 runs this morning to bowl them out for 385 and have made a solid start in their reply. They have just lost Michael Carberry for 43 after an opening partnership of 85.

    A single to Cook behind square on the off side, then Root misses out on a full toss. He makes amends by guiding a half-volley past mid-off for his first boundary.

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    Gopinath: Allan not gentle as lamb and Andy not exactly flowering in this tour.

  106. 0641: 
    Eng 85-1

    Carberry is back on the England balcony now, locked in conversation with a padded-up Pietersen. Talking him through the pace of the pitch perhaps? Let's just assume he isn't offering a masterclass on how to leave the ball. Another maiden.

  107. 0638: 
    Eng 85-1

    Captain Clarke brings in a silly point for Lyon to Cook. The Aussie offie is quietly having an excellent series, and here he is beating Cook's bat with a nicely-flighted delivery. It's a maiden.

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    Sam Adams: Ill-fitting cricketers' names: Cook? He doesn't even sweat ...

  109. 0635: 
    Eng 85-1

    Joe Root, what have you got? He shoulders arms to his first ball then gets forward and blocks the next. Root was England's top scorer with 87 in the second innings in Adealide. Can he go one better?

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special
    Ryan Harris celebrates a wicket

    "That's good thinking by Ryan Harris to go round the wicket. It's just what Australia needed but England can be pleased with their start because they have taken the shine off the ball. Joe Root is their next man in and I think he's been their best batsman on tour."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  111. 0632: 
    WICKET- Carberry b Harris 43 (Eng 85-1)
    Michael Carberry is bowled

    Carberry falls to an ill-judged leave. Trying to get the bat out of the way at the last minute he only succeeds in deflecting it down onto his stumps. Australia have the breakthrough.

    Fall of wicket: 1-85 (Carberry)

    Harris's figures: 7.4-3-17-1


    Full match scorecard


    Tom Woodhatch: WG Grace was not, by all accounts, always worthy of his name. You might think that Billy Midwinter, who played four tests for England in the early 1880s, deserves nomination, but he did in fact play all his Tests in the (English) winter (Dec 1881 - Mar 1882). His contemporary, Charles Studd, produced six children.

    Fine work Tom. You've invented a whole new theme of cricketers whose name is perfectly suited to their nature.

  113. 0630: 
    Eng 84-0

    Carberry chops his bat down in the nick of time to deflect Lyon from the top of off stump through third man for four.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "Australia have put together a couple of maidens and that's what they needed - they need to build some pressure and not go chasing wickets."

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  115. 0627: 
    Eng 79-0 (Cook 38, Carberry 39)

    A Harris bumper keeps a bit low then he slides a ripper across the left-hander and nearly gets the edge. Four out of the last five overs have been maidens, suggesting Australia are just wresting back a bit of control here.

    Tom Fordyce, Chief sports writer at the Waca

    "Blistering heat for the England fans melting in the Waca stands/saucepans, but with Cook and Carberry staying cool like English cucumbers, there is at last some respite from the middle. Many long, hot, hard yards still to come, but a few smiles are breaking free from the gallows humour that has hung around since the second day in Brisbane."

  117. 0624: 
    Eng 79-0

    Cook is taking no chances as he gets used to the different test paid by Lyon. A straight bat, a calm head and it's another maiden.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "This is the start England needed. It goes to show the openers can set an innings up if they see off the new ball and build on it."

  119. 0621: 
    Eng 79-0

    Ryan Harris is back but he can't quite get his line right and Cook helps himself to a double and a single on the leg side. Carberry outdoes his skipper by opening the face and lacing another boundary through point. This is now the highest Test partnership between this duo, exceeding their efforts of 72 and 65 in Bangladesh in March 2010.


    Robert Sword: I'm in the middle of the desert in the Sultanate of Oman, building a gas plant and trying to work out a bonus for 1000 cricket-mad Indian workforce so we can finish the project on time. I might base the allowance on how many runs Cook gets. I should really be at the WACA as I'm an exiled Pom who has been living in Perth for 13 years and spent last night sobbing at the thought of the fun and laughter going off in the Lucky Shag!

  121. 0616: 
    Eng 72-0

    Turn for Lyon and Carberry cuts and misses at one that is moving away from his off stump.

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    Charlie from London in Japan: I've given up all hope of subtlety and am openly sat back in Hokkaido University library watching the game; the confused looks at the game give me brief relief when England collapse.

  123. 0611: 
    DRINKS BREAK- Eng 72-0 (Cook 35, Carberry 35)

    Billy Bowden is struggling to count to six at the moment, but he gets there in the end and another Siddle maiden heralds a drinks break.


    Mark Bonsall: Following by the pool at the start of my third week in Mauritius. A constant 31 degrees here for a fortnight with the only clouds being provided by England's ineptitude and lack of gumption. Burning up at the moment, but can't leave the sunbed as a wicket will fall.....

  125. 0608: 
    Eng 72-0

    Now then, will Carbs take on the Lyon again. He doesn't try to hit him over the top, but instead cuts hard through a gap for four. I can't help thinking that Lyon's name and connotations of fierce wild animals is rather ill-matched to his rather meek and unstated demeanour. Can anyone think of another example of an ill-fitting cricketing name?

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    Andrew Morris: I'm following from a friend's karaoke birthday party in Dallas, TX. Surreptitiously checking on my smart phone!

  127. 0603: 
    ASHES CATCH-UP- Eng 68-0

    Catch-up time. In case you are just waking up, England took the last four Australian wickets this morning for 59 runs to bowl them out for 385. Since then, through a combination of luck and skill, Alastair Cook and Michael Carberry have given England their best opening stand of the series.

    Siddle bowls a maiden.

    Bowling figures: Harris 5-2-9-0, Johnson 5-2-20-0, Watson 3-0-21-0, Siddle 4-3-11-0, Lyon 2-0-10-0.

  128. 0559: 
    Eng 68-0 (Cook 35, Carberry 31)

    Ooh Carbingtons, you saucy devil. The arrival of spin has him down the track and hoisting the ball for a straight six that just has enough to clear the ropes. Brad Haddin is in Carberry's ear telling him to try the shot again, but he ignores the advice and blocks out the rest of the over.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "It's the first time in the series that we have looked at an England player and felt they are in control. The best thing is that they are prepared to put the bad balls away."

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  130. 0556: 
    Eng 62-0

    Nice one Rob. Sounds like a few of you are trying to subtly follow the cricket without those around you being aware of it. Anyone else got a tale to tell? Driving a bus perhaps? Leading a tour of a castle? Operating on someone's dodgy hip?

    Great scenes out in the middle as Cook cuts Watson away for back to back boundaries.

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    Peter Siddle and Michael Carberry

    Rob from London: In San Francisco trying my hardest to be an urbane and gracious host. The veneer was somewhat cracked by my deep howl of dismay at Michael Carberry's ridiculous pull shot.

  132. 0551: 
    Eng 54-0 (Cook 27, Carberry 25)

    I'm not a big fan of Carberry's "curtain-rail" method of leaving the ball. It nearly proves his downfall here as the ball from Siddle catches the edge and bounces just short of the slips. As if by magic, he comes over all traditional for the rest of the over, lifting his bat high above his head and clear of danger.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "England still need to be careful. They've had moments in the first two matches where they looked quite comfortable but they lose one wicket and it's a domino effect."

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  134. 0547: 
    Eng 53-0

    A back-footed drive off Watson adds three to Cook's score. Then Carberry cleverly deflects one past the slippers for four to bring up England's first fifty opening partnership of the series. Two more through the covers, followed by a risky swipe and miss. Careful now Carbs...

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
    Mitchell Johnson

    "Mr Holding must have been 120mph if Johnson is bowling at 94mph. He's not that fast - there must be something wrong with the equipment."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  136. 0543: 
    Eng 44-0

    Cook tickles a straight ball from Siddle to fine leg for four, then gets a bit more bat on one for a single. England have seen off Johnson for now, and Shane Watson will replace him in the attack.

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    Andrew in Tel Aviv's attempt at a Christmas/cricket song: "Are you waiting for your stumps and bails to fall? You see Mitchell Johnson holding the ball, Does he bowl to you a bouncer? Does he try and draw the hook? Oh we need a century from you, Captain Cook. So here it is, merry Ashes, Clarke has scored another ton, Look to the future now, It's only just begun."

  138. 0538: 
    Eng 39-0 (Cook 18, Carberry 19)

    Little sign of England putting the pull shot to bed then! When he finally realised he was safe, Carberry jogged through for a single to keep the strike to Johnson. Becalmed, he sees out a maiden.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "I cannot believe the stupidity of that shot. He deserves to be caught out - England are getting lucky at the moment. They could be three down. If Carberry continues playing shots like that he won't remain as England opener."

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  140. 0536: 
    NEAR MISS- Eng 39-0

    Lovely shot Carbs. Overpitched from Siddle and eased through the covers for four.

    Then a rush of blood and a pull shot that goes straight up in the air. But somehow the ball lands safely in between three fielders, with keeper Haddin the closest to taking the catch. Carberry was shaking his head while the ball was in the air. Is this a sign this might be England's day?


    Dan in Exeter continues our theme of Christmas cricket songs: Fairytale of Dominic Cork?

  142. 0530: 
    Eng 34-0

    Awesome bowling from Johnson. Cook tries to hook and misses then fends the next ball off from in front of his face. The England captain then gets roundly booed for stepping away just as Johnson is about to release. A fly perhaps? Or just an attempt to unsettle mad Mitch? Either way, Cook survives a six ball barrage in which every delivery is in excess of 90mph, with the fastest clocking in at 93.3 - the quickest of the match so far.

  143. 0525: 
    Eng 34-0 (Cook 18, Carberry 14)

    This is now England's highest opening partnership of the series. No leg gully for Cook and it's a good thing too as the ball loops off his bat into that vacant area. Harris tries to tempt Carberry outside off stump. He leaves the first one but nibbles at the second and is lucky not to get an edge.

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    Bengbu Boy: A pitch with pace and a fast outfield is perfect for swinging momentum. That's what England need to do this afternoon.

    Hugh in France: Please England, don't fixate on Johnson. Harris's stats at the Waca are impressive. Lyon will get bounce too. Take care.

  145. 0521: 
    DROPPED CATCH- Eng 33-0

    Here's Mitchell Johnson then, whose Perth average is 20.08. Big chance. Carberry is squared up and gets a thick edge, but Steve Smith dives across from second slip and can only get a fingertip to the ball. That's two now that Smith has grassed.

  146. 0516: 
    Eng 28-0 (Cook 17, Carberry 10)
    Michael Carberry

    Lovely start from Carbonara, glancing Harris off his hips wide of long leg for four. He's very compact is Carbs, almost crablike in his stance as he gets his head over the ball and smothers the rest of the over.

  147. 0513: 

    Here comes the Cooker - 15 innings since his last ton. Bonne chance capitaine..

  148. 0509:  
    Kim Hughes and Jonathan Agnew

    Over on TMS, former Australia captain Kim Hughes is telling some terrific tales to Jonathan Agnew. If you've missed their chat, it will be available as a podcast later on.

  149. 0507: 

    Afternoon all, Sam Sheringham at the wheel. How are we feeling? Confident?

    Just been chatting to my cricket colleagues over lunch, and we are imploring England just to bat sensibly here. On this pitch, even a gentle push tends to go away for runs, so there really is no need to force the issue. And if anyone gets out hooking or pulling they might as well jump on the next plane back to Blightly.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "That's probably the calmest I've seen the opening pair look throughout the series. They have made the most of anything too full from Johnson, and Cook punched one down the ground from Harris, sending a message that if you bowl a bad ball we will make the most of it. But one of the top six needs to make a hundred. If they do that they are in the game."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  151. 0433:  
    Kim Hughes leads Australia out in 1981

    I'm off for some food now, but be sure to listen to TMS during the lunch break when Jonathan Agnew will be joined by former Australia captain Kim Hughes. Sam Sheringham will be back with you in around 30 minutes to guide you through the afternoon session. Enjoy.


    Jack in Tamworth continues our cricket and Christmas songs theme:

    Away in an Ashes, the batsmen look scared,

    The fast paceman Johnson bowls balls at their head

    The sun in the bright sky beams down over play

    The fast paceman Johnson blows England away.

  153. 0431: 
    LUNCH- Eng 24-0 (Cook 17*, Carberry 6*)

    Shane Watson trundles in and Alastair Cook almost falls victim to a leading edge but the ball races away to safety and the batsmen run through for two. Anyway, he survives through to the lunch break and England are free to have a bite to eat unscathed.

    Bowling figures: Harris 3-1-5-0, Johnson 2-0-15-0, Watson 1-0-4-0.

  154. 0427: 
    Eng 20-0 (Cook 13*, Carberry 6*)

    Ryan Harris is bowling quite a full length, looking to draw the England openers forward and induce another edge. Just one from the over as we try and fit one more in before lunch. And I think Shane Watson's the man to bowl it...

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    Lee in Gloucester: I'm up and well awake thanks to my screaming baby. With England batting next I'm not quite sure my night is going to improve! Come on lads, give me something to smile about.

  156. 0423: 
    Eng 19-0

    Alastair Cook is middling the ball pretty well early in his innings, playing another straight drive and watching the ball race away to the boundary. If they get in, England's batsmen will get full value for their shots on this quick outfield - Cook's boundary was little more than a forward defensive shot.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "England have no other option than to come out and play with a bit of fire and determination. They've seen enough of Mitchell Johnson in this series to suggest that they should play him a little better now."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  158. 0419: 
    DROPPED CATCH- Eng 13-0 (Cook 7*, Carberry 5*)

    Nearly! Alastair Cook is dropped low down at third slip by Steve Smith off Ryan Harris's bowling. A major let-off for the England captain. Can he make the Aussies pay for that missed opportunity? He seems determined to do just that as he plays a straight bat and watches the ball ping off the middle of his willow and down to the boundary for four.

  159. 0415: 
    Eng 9-0

    Mitchell Johnson thunders in for his opening over but Michael Carberry stands firm - driving Johnson's second delivery through mid-off for England's first boundary of the innings. He adds a single to put Captain Cook on strike. The paceman cranks his pace above 90mph, but Cook responds by angling down to third man for three runs. Nine from the over. What threat?!

  160. 0409: 

    Here comes Mitchell Johnson...

  161. 0409: 
    Eng 0-0 (Cook 0*, Carberry 0*)

    The home support roar Ryan Harris towards the delivery crease with each ball of the opening over - and England already look jittery as Alastair Cook has a nibble at one outside off stump. No fishing today, skip. Honours even after six balls as Rhino begins with a maiden. Phew.

  162. 0405: 
    Australia walk out to field

    Right then. Ryan Harris has a new cherry in his hand and Alastair Cook and Michael Carberry are at the wicket. We've got around 25 minutes until lunch. Let's play.

    Tom Fordyce, Chief sports writer at the Waca

    "Having pulled off part one of the plan in taking those last four Aussie wickets for 60-odd runs, now comes parts two, three and four for England. Part one: survive until lunch. Part two: prosper in the dog-day afternoon. Part three: make hay while that Perth sun shines on like a crazy diamond after tea."

  164. 0400: 

    That 10th-wicket partnership between Peter Siddle and Nathan Lyon contributed 31 runs and has helped push Australia nearer 400 than the 354 they were on when the two got together.

  165. 0358: 

    Mitchell Johnson, on his home ground, is about to be unleashed on England's batting line-up. If the tourists lose this battle, they can begin preparations for the handover of the Ashes urn.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "England bowled better today. They had a bit more intent and hit better areas. They will be happy to have finished this Australian innings off before lunch. Now they have to turn it on with the bat, or this series will be over."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  167. 0355: 
    WICKET- Siddle c Prior b Bresnan 21 (Aus 385 all out)
    Tim Bresnan

    There it is. Tim Bresnan takes his first wicket of the series which a perfect delivery which takes the edge of Peter Siddle's bat on the way through to wicketkeeper Matt Prior.

    Fall of wickets: 1-13 (Rogers 11), 2-52 (Watson 18), 3-106 (Clarke 24), 4-129 (Warner 60), 5-143 (Bailey 7), 6-267 (Haddin 55), 7-326 (Johnson 39), 8-338 (Smith 111), 9-354 (Harris 12), 10-385 (Siddle 21)

    Bowling figures: Anderson 23-5-60-2, Broad 22-2-100-3, Bresnan 23.3-4-81-1, Stokes 17-3-63-1, Swann 17-0-71-2, Root 1-0-4-0.


    Match scorecard

  168. 0354: 
    Aus 385-9

    England skipper Alastair Cook, wearing an uncharacteristically creased shirt, keeps his troops going with the odd word of encouragement from first slip. Up in the Australian changing rooms, Mitchell Johnson is laughing and joking with team-mates as he lines up England's batsmen. Ben Stokes sends down another tidy over, but still no 10th wicket.

  169. 0349: 
    OUCH!- Aus 384-9 (Siddle 21*, Lyon 17*)
    Nathan Lyon

    The spectators inside the Waca are taking a mixed approach to the soaring temperatures, which are in excess of 40 degrees today. Some - probably the English - are shaded by hats and sun-glasses while others - likely the Australians - are lying on yellow towels on the grassy banks which are square of the wicket. Australia continue to frustrate England but Tim Bresnan does manage to rattle Nathan Lyon with a bouncer which crashes into the number eleven's helmet. A new lid is called for and is enough for Lyon to see out another over.


    Colin in Thailand: I had rather a useful curry last night and keep having to run to the bathroom. Every time I come back to my computer a wicket has fallen….hope I feel better by the time England are batting!

  171. 0342: 
    Aus 379-9

    England are grimacing their way through each ball as Nathan Lyon nicks one between third slip and gully before unfurling a sumptuous drive through to the cover boundary. We're not in Ashton Agar territory yet, but the Australian spinner is certainly being a pest to the England bowlers.

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    Daniel James Clarke: It's a travesty no Christmas song titles involve the word sledge.

  173. 0338: 
    Aus 370-9 (Siddle 15*, Lyon 9*)

    Tim Bresnan was the slowest of all England's seam bowlers on the first day of the match and I'm sure he was sore following his 21-over stint in the unrelenting Perth heat. The burly Yorkshire all-rounder is given his first bowl of the second day and Nathan Lyon continues to frustrate with a push through mid-on which brings four.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "England have come out harder this morning, like they wanted to be out there, which they needed to do after the way it finished yesterday. If they'd just gone through the motions, the Test match would have gone away from them. But if they'd had a third or fourth slip in I think this innings would have come to a close by now."

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    Richard in Ottawa: Last Christmas (down under) I gave you my urn. The very next time you gave it away.

  176. 0331: 
    DRINKS BREAK- Aus 366-9
    England fans in Perth

    England's flame-haired all-rounder Ben Stokes is given a chuck and he almost tempts Peter Siddle with a gentle outswinger. The Australian batsman does take the bait later in the over and squeezes a single down to third man. Nathan Lyon attracts a short ball but casually flicks it off his hips for one more run. Time for drinks.

    Bowling figures: Anderson 23-5-60-2, Broad 22-2-100-3, Bresnan 21-4-72-0, Stokes 14.5-2-53-1, Swann 17-0-71-2, Root 1-0-4-0.

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    Brendan Williamson in St Andrews: How about "I'm Cover-Driving Home for Christmas"?

  178. 0326: 
    Aus 364-9 (Siddle 14*, Lyon 4*)

    What kind of party doesn't give due attention to the heat of Ashes battle? I'm with you, Andrew [see text below]. I wonder what the revellers think about Nathan Lyon's batting style? Australia's number eleven is not going to roll over as he carves James Anderson to the mid-off boundary. He does get squared up later in the over but the edge drops short of the slip cordon.

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    Andrew Pym: Just caused a good deal of controversy by turning off the music at a party in order to put on Test Match Special. I guess not everyone understands the importance of this morning session.

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    Marcos Sreeves: God rest ye merry, Gentlemen, Let nothing ye dismay, for Cook and Root and Carberry will bat upon this day.

  181. 0322: 
    Aus 360-9

    An excellent shot from Peter Siddle as he rocks back and pulls a Stuart Broad bumper from under his nose to the boundary for four. He follows it up by chipping over the bowler's head for two more runs. Frustrating for England.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "If you're an opening batsman it is great to see wickets falling. If you get them out quickly you finish on a high note and the momentum is with you. I always hated it when we couldn't get the tail-enders out and the home crowd were getting behind them. If you get them out cheaply, it stands us in good stead."

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  183. 0315: 
    Aus 354-9 (Siddle 8*, Lyon 0*)

    Now it's just Nathan Lyon and Peter Siddle standing between England and Mitchell Johnson. Lyon survives the final ball of James Anderson's over - edging into the ground and towards the slip region.

  184. 0314: 
    WICKET- Harris c Root b Anderson 12 (Aus 354-9)
    Ryan Harris

    Jimmy gets himself another wicket - Ryan Harris going too hard at one outside off stump and squeezing a catch to Joe Root at gully. One to go until England get a bat.

    Fall of wickets: 1-13 (Rogers 11), 2-52 (Watson 18), 3-106 (Clarke 24), 4-129 (Warner 60), 5-143 (Bailey 7), 6-267 (Haddin 55), 7-326 (Johnson 39), 8-338 (Smith 111), 9-354 (Harris 12)

    Anderson's figures: 21.5-5-56-2

    Match scorecard

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    Lloyd Griffiths: A festive appropriation of England's batting? Deck the Balls with Ploughs of Folly?

  186. 0311: 
    Aus 352-8 (Siddle 8*, Harris 10*)

    England have got three slips and a gully in as they try and root out these Aussie tail-enders as soon as possible. So far, however, Ryan Harris and Peter Siddle are proving up to the test. Just one run from Stuart Broad's latest over.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "I think the reason England have bowled better this morning is that there is more intensity and aggression. As David Saker wanted, they are bowling a fuller length but not half-volleys. It's all about getting the in between length that catches the batsman thinking whether to get forward or stay back."

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  188. 0306: 
    Aus 351-8

    England's bowlers look like they felt the full blast of David Saker's hairdryer last night. The bowling coach didn't look a happy chappy in his close of play interviews with the media. James Anderson is getting the ball through a little quicker - Ryan Harris picking up the only run from the over with a prod down to third man.


    Greg, Niagara Falls, TMS inbox: Re Christmas songs. "Hark, the Harold Larwood sings"?

  190. 0301: 
    Aus 350-8 (Siddle 8*, Harris 8*)

    Ryan Harris is not going to hang around and dig in. Moments before being the subject of a review, he flashed four through the slip cordon and then celebrated his reprieve by punching three through mid-on. Peter Siddle joins in the fun by cracking a boundary from the final ball of the over. A profitable over for Australia off the unlucky Stuart Broad.

    Andrew Samson, BBC Test Match Special statistician
    James Anderson

    "It is the 60th time we've had the 'caught Prior bowled Anderson' dismissal for England in Test cricket. That equals the England bowler/wicketkeeper record held by Bob Willis and Bob Taylor."

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  192. 0258: 

    Umpire Billy Bowden is correct - there was no nick from Ryan Harris and the Aussie is able to continue his innings.

  193. 0257: 

    Have England hunted down the Rhino? The ball squirts to gully off Ryan Harris. The umpire says not out but the bowler, Stuart Broad, wants to review it...

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    Tom in Cambridge: A song for Aussie fans: I'm dreaming of a whitewash Christmas.

  195. 0254: 
    Aus 339-8 (Siddle 4*, Harris 1*)

    England are hunting big game now, with Rhino Harris at the crease - the batsman getting off the mark with a single into the leg side.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "Great start for England. The ball has been nipping around a bit this morning and England are on top."

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  197. 0252: 
    WICKET- Smith c Prior b Anderson 111 (Aus 338-8)
    Steve Smith

    James Anderson finally gets some reward for his toils in the Perth heat as real-time Snicko shows up the faintest of inside edges. Steve Smith's magnificent innings comes to an end.

    Fall of wickets: 1-13 (Rogers 11), 2-52 (Watson 18), 3-106 (Clarke 24), 4-129 (Warner 60), 5-143 (Bailey 7), 6-267 (Haddin 55), 7-326 (Johnson 39), 8-338 (Smith 111)

    Smith's innings: 208 balls, 14 fours, two sixes

    Anderson's figures: 19.5-5-52-1


    Match scorecard

  198. 0251: 

    James Anderson gets one to seam back into Steve Smith. The ball nips between bat and pad and Matt Prior gathers the cherry behind the stumps. England are convinced but the umpire says not out. Review time.

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    Nick Hoult of the Daily Telegraph: 36 fans treated for heat exhaustion yesterday and four taken to hospital. Even hotter today at the Waca...

  200. 0247: 
    Aus 336-7

    Stuart Broad gets Peter Siddle ducking and weaving with the odd short ball, but when he pushes his lengths a little further forward the batsman gets a thick outside edge and the ball races away to the boundary.


    Jim Snipe in Melbourne, TMS inbox: Isn't it amazing what you can do when you bowl where you are told to bowl and know where you should bowl. I have to work tonight with Aussies who have found a sporting voice.. I need something to fight back with.

  202. 0243: 
    Aus 332-7 (Smith 113*, Siddle 0*)

    I bet Ryan Harris is a little miffed that his clubbed half century in the last Test hasn't earned him a batting order promotion. Steve Smith is in charge of keeping the tail wagging today, earning the first runs of the day with a gentle push through the covers for two. He's a lucky boy at the end of the over though as he edges four through the slips. Jimmy's seething.

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    Salman Khan: It's Christmas, almost. Songs for the England team? "Do they know it's Cricket time at all?

    Any more suggestions for cricket-themed Christmas songs?

  204. 0239: 
    Aus 326-7

    Put that banana down, Peter - you're needed to bat. Stuart Broad is bob on early doors, probing away outside off stump and not falling into yesterday's trap of bowling too short at the Australian tail. A wicket maiden for the England paceman.

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "That is a beautiful delivery. Perfect length and it seamed away a bit. As much as it's a good sign for England, it's not a great sign because day two here can zip through a bit quicker. Perfect start for Broad - England need to get rid of these three wickets quickly."

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  206. 0235: 
    WICKET- Johnson c Prior b Broad 39 (Aus 326-7)
    Stuart Broad and Mitchell Johnson

    The perfect start for England. Stuart Broad pitches it up to Mitchell Johnson, induces a nick and Matt Prior takes the catch. One down, three to go.

    Fall of wickets: 1-13 (Rogers 11), 2-52 (Watson 18), 3-106 (Clarke 24), 4-129 (Warner 60), 5-143 (Bailey 7), 6-267 (Haddin 55), 7-326 (Johnson 39)

    Broad's figures: 17.2-1-78-3


    Match scorecard

    Michael Vaughan, Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "The toss of the coin has been really important. There is crack right down the middle of the pitch that's a good few centimetres wide already. I felt England had to win yesterday to really have a chance. The average score on this ground is 323 in the first innings."

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  208. 0233: 
    Aus 326-6 (Smith 103*, Johnson 39*)

    It doesn't matter what has gone on before, the Barmy Army still begin every day with a resounding rendition of Jerusalem which shows they are still right behind the England team. James Anderson starts well, drawing some stout defensive shots from Steve Smith. Maiden over.

  209. 0230: 

    Right then, James Anderson has the ball in hand and Steve Smith continues on 103 not out. Play.

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    Lloyd Griffiths: It may not save the Ashes, but England need a big, big day to prove to themselves this team still has it. Enough talk.

  211. 0228: 

    The England players are making their way out onto the Perth outfield. The sun is shining, the pitch is flat. This is a day for batting, meaning England need to break through this dogged Australian tail as quickly as possible.

  212. 0227: 

    Steve Smith a future Australian captain? I'm not quite sure what to make of that, but I do know that the Aussies missed a trick in the past by not having Shane Warne in charge.

    Glenn McGrath, Ex-Australia fast bowler on BBC Test Match Special

    "Steve Smith has been earmarked as a future Australian captain, the selectors have shown faith in him and he rewarded them with his century on the first day."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  214. 0223: 
    2-0 DOWN, 3-2 UP?

    Much talk in the press box on the first day was of the English media's football victory over their Australian counterparts.

    From 2-0 down, the English came back to win 3-2, leaving some to wonder if it was an omen for the Ashes action.

    Former England captain Michael Vaughan was on the scoresheet, and you can watch his cracking goal here on the BBC Sport website.


    Rob Morgan, in reply to Roger-James Holt's email [0213]: It's not the last Test here (hopefully). There isn't a Test next year as Australia only have 4 Tests due to the World Cup later that summer. Brisbane and Adelaide beat Perth to those Tests. Should be normal service the next year though.

  216. 0219: 
    Billy Bowden

    With all the technology now used in Test cricket, some believe that an umpire's job is only to count to six.

    Billy Bowden can't even get that right.

    On day one, Bowden, standing in his first Test since June, called over on Stuart Broad after only five balls then made Ben Stokes bowl a seventh.

  217. 0217: 

    Bowling coach David Saker says England missed their opportunity on the first day of the third Ashes Test against Australia in Perth.

    "We had them on the ropes and didn't finish the job," said Saker. "It's partly down to the way they played with the bat, but we didn't deliver what we should have done."

    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "The Australians knew there was going to be a heatwave in Perth this week and gave all of their players internal thermometers to assess how much liquid they needed to rehydrate. For example, Michael Clarke rehydrates quicker than David Warner."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra


    Roger-James Holt: Can anybody confirm the rumour that this could be the last Test to be ever played on this ground. I have heard that the Indian cricket board have refused to play on this ground next summer. That I suggest would be the end of this famous ground and no Test matches will go ahead until 2018/9. There will be a new 78,000-seater in Perth and that is where the Test matches will go to.

    Can anybody shed any more light on this one? Let us know...

  220. 0213: 

    BBC sport cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew says England's repeated failure to capitalise on good positions highlights their lack of firepower.

    "England teams of the recent past would have been able to finish Australia off. This one was unable to," writes Agnew.

    After getting through the Australia top order, England have constantly found themselves stopped by Brad Haddin, who again reversed the momentum on the opening day.

    Chief sports writer Tom Fordyce pays tribute to Australia's "guard dog", writing: "Three times now in three Tests he has growled his way to the wicket with Australia in trouble; three times now he has chased away the tourists and made safe the family store."

    Tom Fordyce, Chief sports writer at the Waca

    "Deep blue skies up above the Waca, so why the uncertain forecast around England's supporters? Because if this match and series are to be saved, today has to be the day it begins to happen. If Australia can be bowled out for no more than 380, and England set up the base to go past that by a distance, then the metaphorical clouds will lift. If Clarke's men instead make 450, you fear what the thunder and lightning of Mitchell Johnson might do afterwards."

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    Mikey Henalla: New day for England in Perth. Got to clean up the tail before lunch and then dominate with the bat. Stand up and perform.

  223. 0208: 

    England struggled to get any life out of the Waca pitch on the first day, but the Herald Sun says the visiting batsman are in for a torrid time when their turn comes.

    The paper says left-arm speedster Mitchell Johnson will be "frothing at the mouth" over the prospect of bowling on his home ground.

    Meanwhile, respected Australian cricket writer Malcolm Conn says England have been left embarrassed by the decision to take Steven Finn, Boyd Rankin and Chris Tremlett down under, only for all three big pacers to miss out on playing in Perth.

    And, writing in the Daily Mail, former England captain Nasser Hussain says the tourists bowled too short on the first day.

    Geoffrey Boycott, Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Today is a key day. If England don't bat properly, they will be on the beach on Tuesday having a day off. This is a very good pitch and they have to perform."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra


    No day at the Test is complete without your musings. So whether you're just getting home from the work's Christmas party or having your breakfast having successfully adjusted to Australian time zones, we want to hear from you.

    Send us your predictions for the day to #bbccricket or ping us a text to 81111. We're looking forward to hearing from you.

    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "I don't think I'm alone in thinking this is D-Day for England in this match. It all depends on how they bat later in the day, because we know their confidence is fragile."

    Listen to Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

  227. 0203: 

    It's all set up to be an enthralling day's cricket down under. We'll be with you right through to the close of play, as will the lads on Test Match Special who are now on air. You can listen on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra or tune in online or via your BBC Sport app.

    News for app fans - the BBC Sport app has now been updated to support larger tablets for UK users - the iPad, Android tablets and Kindle Fire 8.9" devices.

  228. 0202: 

    But I also bring ominous news for England supporters, because the pitch at the Waca is expected to be at its quickest on days two and three. And with Mitchell Johnson smelling blood from beyond his moustache, that could spell danger for Alastair Cook's men.

  229. 0200: 
    Alastair Cook

    It was all going so well. Australia were 143-5 and England were cock-a-hoop.

    Then it all started going familiarly wrong for the tourists. Steve Smith scored an unbeaten 103 and Brad Haddin chipped in with a typically gutsy half-century. Throw in some late-in-the-day bullying from their tormentor-in-chief Mitchell Johnson and the end result saw Australia close day one in Perth on 326-6.

    This is no lost cause. Yet.

    Get amongst Australia early and they might still have a chance of keeping the Ashes alive. Surely there is no bigger incentive?

Live Scores - Australia v England


  • Australia beat England by 150 runs
  • Australia: 385 & 369-6 (87.0 overs)
  • England: 251 & 353 (103.2 overs)
  • Venue: Perth

England 2nd Innings

All out
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Cook b Harris 0
Carberry lbw b Watson 31
Root c Haddin b Johnson 19
Pietersen c Harris b Lyon 45
Bell c Haddin b Siddle 60
Stokes c Haddin b Lyon 120
Prior c Haddin b Johnson 26
Bresnan c Rogers b Johnson 12
Swann c Smith b Lyon 4
Broad not out 2
Anderson c Bailey b Johnson 2
Extras 6w 13b 13lb 32
Total all out 353

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