New Zealand v England, first Test, day three as it happened

New Zealand extend their lead to 235 before bad light brings a premature end to the third day of the first Test in Dunedin.

8 March 2013 Last updated at 06:28

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As it happened

  1. 0429: 

    Food for thought for New Zealand captain Brendon McCullum. Does he declare overnight or have a quick dart with the bat himself in the morning, potentially playing England out of the game? One thing is for sure, New Zealand still hold all the cards and England will be hoping for a couple more doses of inclement weather. Join us at 20:45 GMT for day four.

  2. 0422: 
    CLOSE OF PLAY

    That's it folks. The umpires have abandoned play for the day due to bad light.

  3. 0417: 

    I'm told there's no bad light over in Christchurch, but I'm not convinced that helps us an enormous amount with matters in Dunedin. With that 16:30 mark fast approaching I imagine an announcement must be imminent.

  4.  

    David Crabb, TMS inbox: "I am still here, 2310 Thursday in Miami, Florida, but not for much longer. Yawn..."

  5. 0402: 

    Anyone still with me? If you are, there's nothing to report, I'm just giving you a sign of life. Remember, the players have to be out there within half an hour for there to be any more play today. It's looking unlikely in the extreme.

  6. 0351: 
    BAD LIGHT STOPS PLAY

    The umpires have been back out in the middle to check the light and they are still not happy. Talk amongst yourselves.

  7. 0340: 

    With TV and TMS both showing replays, I'm wondering whether we can get our developers working on a programme that allows us to "replay" the live text during rain intervals. This would enable you (the punters) to relive the wickets as they fell, interspersed with all the banter, Boycottisms and banalities from yours truly.

    Alternatively, if you've not been with me all night, you could just have a scroll back to beginning and work your way up. Or you could just go to bed.

  8. 0331: 
    BAD LIGHT STOPS PLAY

    I stand corrected. The players need to be playing by 04:30 GMT (17:30 local time) in order for there to be any more play today.

  9.   
    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "Hope Andy Caddick doesn't come out here. Every rain break TV shows him going round the park…"

  10. 0325: 

    Umpires Rauf and Reiffel confirm in a TV interview that they actually brought the players off for bad light, having noted that the light fell below the level of the first day. Meanwhile, the fourth umpire is out in the middle taking regular readings and reporting back to them when it has become bright enough to play.

  11. 0322: 
    RAIN STOPS PLAY

    No news yet on a resumption or otherwise in Dunedin. The players would have to be on the field by 5:30 am in order for there to be any play today.

  12. 0314: 

    Rutherford, in case you weren't with us earlier, scored 171 - the seventh highest score by a player on his Test debut. Not only that but he scored the runs off 217 balls, with 22 fours and three sixes. If Carlsberg made debuts...

  13.  

    New Zealand debutant Hamish Rutherford on his magnificent 171: "There was a lot of relief when the 100 came up and it was very special to do it here on my home ground in front of my family and friends.

    "To get out with the first ball of the new ball was disappointing. I wanted to bat for another half hour and then go from there. I don't like getting out."

    On how he will mark his maiden Test century tonight: "A cheeky wee glass of chocolate milk will do the trick."

  14. 0302: 

    Let's take a quick look at the England bowling figures with Anderson very much the leader of the pack and Steve Finn in the 'must try harder' bracket.

    Anderson 29-2-108-4; Finn 26-3-102-0; Broad 24-3-89-2; Panesar 22-2-83-1.

  15. 0258: 

    So, what do we know then? Well, New Zealand lead by 235 runs with just over two days left in the match. England have been much better today but New Zealand have scored quickly are generally remained in control of things. Will they be thinking about declaring if they do get back out tonight?

  16.   
    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "I don't want to be fatalistic to everyone who has shown great determination and stamina back home to stay up, but if you asked me my opinion if there would be anymore play today, I would say maybe snuggle under the duvet. It's just filled in and it's grey."

  17. 0251: 
    RAIN STOPS PLAY- NZ 402-7

    Well, if it was a tactic, it worked! The umpires have a quick chat and decide that it's time to go off. Brendon McCullum looks decidedly unimpressed. Alastair Cook isn't showing it, but he'll be cock-a-hoop.

  18. 0249: 
    NZ 402-7

    With the rain getting a bit more constant out there, some ball-drying rags are brought out from the England dressing-room. Aggers senses a clever tactic to drop a hint to the umpire that it's time to go off.

  19.  

    TrickieDickie, Hollywood, TMS inbox: "Come on Sir Boycs - 'stick o' rhubarb' and 'uncovered pitches'. All I need is 'corridor of uncertainty' (or 'Katy Perry') and it's Boycott Bingo for me!"

    The first three 'Boycottisms' have definitely tripped off the Yorkshireman's tongue today. Not heard him mention his favourite pop singer yet, though there's still plenty of time...

  20. 0245: 
    NZ 402-7

    McCullum swings, Prior catches and celebrates like he's won the Ashes. Umpire Rauf is unmoved and England opt not to review, probably because Anderson doesn't appear overly excited. Michael Vaughan reckons he heard a noise but there's nothing on HotSpot. Martin then gets an inside edge for four to take New Zealand past 400, much to Jimmy's obvious chagrin.

  21.  

    Relief for England seamer Stuart Broad as he dismisses BJ Watling, his first Test wicket since last August.

    England's Stuart Broad
  22. 0241: 
    NZ 396-7 (Lead by 229)

    Martin aims a huge smear at Panesar and the ball squirts away off an inside edge for two.

  23. 0239: 
    NZ 394-7

    Asad Rauf is having a worrying look skywards as the light continues to fade out there. Anderson, chasing a five-for, snakes a ball past Martin's outside edge.

    There's a man dressed as a wizard in the crowd who keeps putting up a banner with a predicted score for each session. At the moment it says "England 41-2. Compton - a pair."

  24. 0234: 
    NZ 389-7

    Oooh la la, where did that come from? Monty gets a ball to turn and bounce sharply past Martin's edge. Then he drops far too short and gets cut away for four. Monty has looked a bit rusty in this innings, but that's understandable after very little warm-up cricket.

  25.  

    Brendan Shaw: "It's funny how some England fans are. First it's 'let's keep the lead under 150', then 200. Lead now over 200."

  26. 0230: 

    Afternoon everybody. Here come the players for the final session of the day. Will it be a full session? Not sure and there are definitely a few spots of rain on the TV cameras. England need three more wickets quickly here to limit the damage.

  27.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "Did I enjoy playing in New Zealand? No. I enjoy the country now but when I came here, it must have been February 1966, to play in Dunedin, it was awful. They were very much in their infancy and we played in the rugby ground and had to get stripped in the rugby dressing room - it was like a dungeon, it had no windows. The pitch was hard, it was left uncovered and it was very difficult."

  28.  

    Callum, via text on 81111: "When it comes to visiting English sports teams, it seems New Zealand have an unfair secret weapon - namely, sending them to Queenstown. It nobbled our rugby team during the 2011 World Cup, and now it's nobbled our Test side (according to Sir Geoffrey, at least). Can we get our revenge on the Kiwis in May by making them play their warm-up game in Blackpool?"

  29. 0224: 

    I'll claim at least some credit for those five wickets for England - and hand you back to Sam Sheringham for the final, elongated session of the day.

  30.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "The real craftsman has been Jimmy Anderson. This afternoon he has been like a runner who has got his second wind. He bowled OK this morning but didn't really look threatening. But when he got that second new ball he got that extra zip. He seemed to get mad, probably with himself, got more aggressive and you thought 'wow he might get a wicket or two'. And he did."

  31. 0210: 
    TEA- NZ 385-7 (lead by 218)

    Martin brings the session to a close with a cut for four off the persevering - though largely unthreatening - Finn. England may have taken five wickets in that session, but New Zealand continue to boss this game. A lead of 218 - with three wickets intact, don't forget - will take some overhauling.

  32.  

    Dean Brownlie becomes James Anderson's fourth victim.

    New Zealand v England
  33. 0206: 
    NZ 380-7 (lead by 213)

    Martin, who took four wickets on his debut, does a passable impression of his skipper as he too opens the face to good effect, leaving Broad staring at the heavens. He fairly stomps back to his mark, a scowl etched on his face.

  34. 0202: 
    NZ 376-7

    Finn greets Bruce Martin with a bouncer than thuds into his glove as he protects himself, the ball looping to a vacant short-leg. The number nine also takes one on the pads, then pinches a single that allows McCullum to bring the over to a close with a four guided wide of gully. Clever stuff.

  35.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "Southee just became frustrated because Broad gave him nothing to hit. That's what happens with tail enders. Once you block them and they have four or five balls they don't score from they try hitting everything that comes along. That's good bowling from Broad."

  36.  
    WICKET- Southee b Broad 25 (NZ 370-7)

    Broad reverts to a more conventional off-stump-and-just-outside line to Southee, beats the outside edge and then cleans him up as the batsman aims a mow across the line. Southee has certainly done a job for his team, adding 44 with his captain in little more than six overs. And that's the over.

  37. 0152: 
    NZ 370-6

    How often have New Zealand boasted a first-innings lead of 200 and counting? It's the sort of situation that is tailor-made for McCullum, the archetypal swashbuckling whose Twenty20 batting average of 35 is the same as his Test average. A relatively uninteresting three singles to report from that Finn over. Sorry.

  38.  

    The Armchair Pundit: "England - what is this?! A comeback?! No. McCullum to whack a quick 50 no probs."

  39. 0147: 
    NZ 367-6 (lead by 200)

    Southee goes aerial too, scything Broad over point for another four. He and McCullum trade singles before he hooks him for six over fine-leg. A top-edged pull off the next ball lands just short of Finn, running in from fine-leg. "It's entertaining to watch, that's for sure, "says Michael Vaughan. Agreed.

  40.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "The problem Alastair Cook has now is that a pair like these two only have to bat for half an hour and they will score 50. So much damage can be done when you get these type of players coming in when your team is in the position England are in."

  41. 0143: 
    NZ 354-6

    Anderson takes a breather after three wickets in eight overs after lunch, a move which is certainly to McCullum's liking. He twice clumps (yes, that's a word - my friend's four-year-old daughter used it the other day) Finn over cover, before squeezing him to the third-man fence. An expensive over. Every run is hurting England.

  42.  

    James Anderson bellows at Ross Taylor after dismissing him for 31.

    New Zealand v England
  43.   
    Sam Sheringham, BBC Sport

    "England have been here before with Southee, you may remember. On his Test debut in 2008, he hammered 77 off 40 balls against England in Napier, ripping into an attack featuring Anderson, Broad and Panesar. England, captained by Michael Vaughan, won the match by 121 runs."

  44.  

    Rich, Hampshire, via text on 81111: "Switched from wine to energy drinks and the wickets are tumbling. I'm in for the night!"

  45. 0137: 
    NZ 342-6 (lead 175)

    Never mind McCullum's plan; Southee clearly doesn't rate his partner's chances of survival, judging by the way he swung a perfectly good-length delivery on off stump Broad high over deep square-leg for six. An over-exuberant fan takes a tumble as he attempts a running catch behind the advertising hoarding. You'd expect him to hold that at this level...

  46.  

    Chris, Aberdeen, TMS inbox: "England starting to induce a collapse is just about getting me through my essay on the sonnets of Sidney and Shakespeare. Keep it up boys!"

  47. 0133: 
    NZ 333-6

    What's Brendon McCullum's plan now? He's fairly throttling the bat handle as he crouches in his stance, and collects a couple through midwicket before taking a single off the sixth delivery to ensure he keeps the strike for Broad's over...

  48.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "That's what you call a mental lapse by Watling."

  49.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Rhys: "Great bowling Broady. Lets take these final four wickets for 50 or less Then get the run machine going (Cook and Trott)."

    Jon Evans: "GET IN! Looks like it could be a less than 200 lead. Could be a classic recovery to this Test match!"

    Mark Jones: "At last! England have finally turned up!"

  50. 0129: 
    NZ 330-6 (lead by 163)

    Southee top-edges a pull over the slips for four off the first ball he faces. It's all go.

  51.   
    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "Watling played no shot and I think Stuart Broad deserved that. He has been battling away, without having a great deal of luck, and then you get something like this when the batsman plays no shot."

  52.  
    WICKET- Watling b Broad 0 (NZ 325-6)

    BJ Watling goes first ball. He shoulders arms to one from Broad that, if it did nip back, was only by a matter of millimetres. Either way, he turns to see his off bail dislodged, and England are rampant. Sort of.

  53.  

    James Rees Phillips: "Anderson once again proving he's a world class bowler. Should see him easily reach 300 international wickets during this tour."

  54.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "If look at Brownlie's backlift it comes down with a closed face and he gets an inside edge. He never really looked comfortable. He played a few nice shots but he was just out there surviving. But Anderson is class, he really is."

  55.  
    WICKET- Brownlie b Anderson 25 (NZ 321-5)

    Anderson strikes again, his fourth wicket of the innings. This is almost a one-man show. Brownlie's rather scratchy innings comes to an end as he plays on, undone by a lack of foot movement and a thick inside edge on to middle stump. As Aggers says, "this game is moving on quickly".

  56. 0120: 

    The TMS boys can't agree on whether Anderson overstepped the mark with that send-off for Taylor. All I'll say is I've seen my brother say a lot worse.

  57.   
    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "There was a long bellow from James Anderson as he deliberately blasted Ross Taylor as he walked off. I'm sorry, I've got a lot of respect for Jimmy Anderson, but a bowler shouldn't be doing that to a batsman."

  58.  

    Bowler James Anderson (centre) congratulates Chris Woakes (right) after catching New Zealand's Hamish Rutherford.

    New Zealand v England
  59.   
    Ed Smith, BBC Test Match Special

    "There are grey clouds around the ground now and it's a bit chilly. There's an autumnal feel."

  60.  

    Phil Robins: "Very childish from Anderson. A bit of humility wouldn't hurt."

    Elliott Marks: "Jimmy's reaction to that wicket is why I don't mind the fact its 1am and I have work tomorrow. C'mon England!"

  61. 0113: 
    DRINKS BREAK- NZ 319-4

    This is an odd spell from Broad, who is mixing some beauties with the odd shocking delivery. Brendon McCullum, the new batsman, tucks one off his legs for four before he is beaten by one that holds its line wonderfully in Geoffrey's corridor of uncertainty.

  62. 0109: 
    NZ 315-4 (lead by 148)

    Three of the four wickets today have fallen to Anderson, who now boasts rather more creditable figures of 3-92 off 25 overs. You wonder where England would be without him...

  63.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "That was good bowling because Anderson has bowled in that corridor around off and with aggression. He made Taylor play an undisciplined shot."

  64.  
    WICKET- Taylor c Trott b Anderson 31 (NZ 310-4)

    And Anderson gets his man! Taylor drives loosely, the edge flies to the second of two slips, and Jonathan Trott succeeds where Joe Root failed a few overs earlier by pouching a straightforward chance. Anderson sends him off with an impassioned roar and lingering stare - and not the kind you might exchange with your loved one. Relief all round for England - Taylor could have done some damage.

  65. 0103: 
    NZ 310-3

    Ross Taylor takes one on the body from Broad, something of a small victory for a bowler, who follows it up by nipping one back to hit Brownlie on the front leg via inside edge. You suspect England need moments of (mis)fortune like that to go there way if they are to have any chance of clawing their way back into this match.

  66.  

    MaxGruenke: "Find it personally embarrassing that the whole England team were outscored by one Kiwi player..."

  67. 0059: 
    NZ 307-3

    Anderson, easily the most threatening of England's bowlers in this game (admittedly, there hasn't been much competition), endures frustration of his own as he too locates Brownlie's outside edge. Again, the ball goes to ground, beats gully and finds the boundary. Runs coming freely for New Zealand here.

  68.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "I've just been talking about having the discipline to bowl successive deliveries in the corridor of uncertainty. But Broad gives them that gift ball - you could hit that with my stick of rhubarb. It makes it difficult for the captain if your bowler is not disciplined enough to do that."

  69. 0055: 
    NZ 302-3 (lead by 135)

    England captain Alastair Cook turns to Stuart Broad in the hope of making greater use of the new ball, but Brownlie squirts a near yorker-length outswinger to gully's left. Broad's guttural groan as he watches the ball race to the fence says everything you need to know about England's position. Brownlie ends the over and brings up the 300 with an infinitely more emphatic clip through midwicket for four.

  70.  

    Howard Horner: "I think the match situation is good for Test cricket. After their debacle in the SA matches, NZ cricket needed this performance."

  71. 0050: 
    NZ 294-3

    Definite swing for Anderson as Taylor edges in the air, but gets himself four more runs. Time for me to rest my typing paws and leave you in the safe hands of Justin Goulding until tea.

  72. 0045: 
    NZ 290-3

    Taylor punches Finn through the off side for three. So what is skipper McCullum thinking, bearing in mind we are on the third day. Does he want to have 20 minutes at England tonight or do NZ just bat as long as they can and ensure they don't have to bat again? They would probably have to up the scoring rate to declare tonight, but with McCullum in next that's bound to happen.

  73.  

    Ross, Halifax, via text on 81111: "We've dropped three catches now, so theoretically, NZ should be six wickets down now!! The game could be a lot different. We need to improve our close catching sooner rather than later."

  74. 0042: 
    NZ 287-3

    A single to Taylor gives Jimmy Anderson the chance to target the edge of Brownlie's bat. The batsman shows good judgement to leave two before blocking the next three.

  75.  

    Joe Baldwin: "Brownlie and Taylor are quality batsmen, and McCullum's still to come! Plenty of depth for NZ, we're firmly on the back foot."

  76. 0038: 
    NZ 286-3 (Lead by 119)

    Steve Finn feeds what is apparently Brownlie's favourite area outside off stump and is clattered for four by the new batsman. The 28-year-old is playing his 10th Test and has an average of 34 with one hundred and four fifties.

  77.   
    Bryan Waddle, BBC Test Match Special

    "It's becoming a much more competitive game out there now."

  78.  

    The Barmy Army cheer on the tourists in a sun-soaked Dunedin earlier on day three.

    New Zealand v England
  79. 0035: 
    NZ 282-3

    Anderson offers Taylor the slightest bit of width and is hammered through the covers for four. NZ's finest batsman looks in good nick out there. Two singles follow.

  80.  

    Ian Chapman: "An anagram of Dean Brownlie is 'Ideal newborn'. Wonder if his parents knew that?"

  81. 0030: 
    NZ 276-3

    Taylor watches the ball on to his bat and pushes Finn firmly down the ground for four. Pietersen is off the field with pain in his right knee apparently, which explains which Woakes is on the field and why Root is at third slip.

  82.  

    Tom Burrows: "Finally! Well batted Hamish Rutherford. A debut that only the best could dream of. Now let's get through them."

  83.   
    Jeremy Coney, BBC Test Match Special

    "It just beat Root with pace and he wasn't ready for it. England's close catching hasn't been of the highest standard recently."

  84. 0025: 
    DROPPED CATCH- NZ 271-3

    New boy Dean Brownlie gets a thick edge but the chance is shelled by Root at third slip. He was diving to his left but the ball was at a very nice height and should really have been grasped.

  85.   
    Jeremy Coney, BBC Test Match Special

    "What an innings on debut. The timing was the feature for me, he flashed strikes from the back foot and front foot. It was a breath of fresh air to see someone play freely and put his team in the position of dominance they are in."

  86. 0024: 

    Rutherford looks distraught as he leaves the field and doesn't acknowledge a standing ovation until he's almost at the pavilion. He scored 171 off 217 balls - the seventh highest score on Test debut of all time.

  87.  
    WICKET- Rutherford c sub (Woakes) b Anderson 171 (NZ 267-3)

    Well that didn't take long, did it? The new ball does the job straight away as Rutherford gets his timing all wrong and plonks one straight into the mitts of Woakes at square leg.

  88. 0019: 
    NEW BALL- NZ 267-2

    Monty bowls the last over with the old ball and two more singles take the New Zealand lead to the 100 mark. Not surprisingly, England demand the new cherry at the first opportunity.

  89. 0015: 
    NZ 265-2

    Two words: new ball. It can't come soon enough for England. Just two overs to wait now until it becomes available so Joe Root is going to bowl. New Zealand work four singles off the over.

  90. 0012: 
    NZ 261-2

    Thanks Michael and thanks to all of you for all those interesting questions. Ross Taylor serves notice of his intent to attack after lunch by cutting Panesar for four. Two singles follow.

  91.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    You must have met hundreds of cricketers, but which one left you starstruck after you met them? Tony Grenall

    Shane Warne. He's the greatest and the one, where if I'm asked to pick my all-time team, would the number one player in. He brought razzmatazz on and off the pitch. He is a superstar.

  92.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    With the advent of different teams for different types of cricket, what do you think about limiting the weight/thickness of bats for Test cricket to re-introduce a higher standard of skill against brute strength? Bill, Kent

    Look at Rutherford in this match - it's brilliant to watch. With technology, it's very similar to the golf club. Mike Atherton gave me his last ever bat, and my last ever bat is three times as thick. Bats are so big and so thick, and it's great for the game, with the ball flying out of the ground. You should hit more boundaries today, but there's still a lot of skill.

  93.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    I'd like to know who Michael thinks will be the next cricketer to win Strictly. Any contenders in the current squad? Fiona in West Didsbury

    I think it's going to be difficult for a cricketer to win it now - it's become a dance competition! It used to be a comedy show not a dance competition. Graeme Swann - he will be doing Strictly in a few years.

  94.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    What's more nerve-wracking? Strictly Come Dancing or facing Shane Warne in Sydney? Colin Mehigan

    When Warnie came on I'd generally have a few. You talk about not sleeping before an Ashes Test, but you've played cricket since you were eight - you're in control. Walking down the steps of Strictly is the most nerve-wracking thing I've ever done.

  95.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    Vaughany, for atmosphere and aura which is your favourite test match venue? Tristan Peck

    For the aura, the history, the heritage it brings - Lord's. I've got a place in London now and I walk into Lord's on a November afternoon through the gates and I still get the hairs sticking up on the back of my neck. There's no cricket happening but it stills gets me.

  96.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    Are England's players underpaid? Erica Crawford

    England's players are well paid, but all the other players in the world have a chance to play in the IPL, with all the million-dollar contracts. England's players don't. I would be hard done to if I couldn't get the chance to earn life-changing amounts of money. England's players deserve to be well paid rewarded because they've had a wonderful period.

  97.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    Do you ex-playing commentators give advice to current players on tactics during a series? You have a great deal of ideas during a game but are they communicated to players during a match? Paul Singer

    I try to keep my distance but of course I would give my opinion if Alastair Cook came up to me and asked me a question. But I would never approach them and say 'why are you doing this?'. I think it's wrong to know titbits from the dressing room and then discuss them on-air. When I see the players I try to talk about anything other than cricket.

  98.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    As a Chance to shine coach and a coach at my club, I always talk to youngsters about the spirit of cricket. I include in this that all batsman should walk if they know they have snicked the ball and have been caught behind. If they don't a) I feel they are going against the sprit of cricket and b) it can spoil an otherwise good game of cricket. What are Michael's views on this? Richard Cridge

    In an ideal world, you'd love it everyone walked. It's very easy to say to all the kids, but you become more cynical the longer you play the game,. You do get the odd bad decision, you do get sawn off. It's down to the individual, but my opinion is it's the umpire's decision. I'd wait for the umpire to give you out if you've hit it.

  99.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    Since Paul Collingwood retired, we seem to have lost just a little bit in the field. Almost as if he lifted everybody else's standards. He was worth far more than his stats. Am I wrong? Ashley Barnes

    Any player of the stature of Paul Collingwood, with the energy he brings in the field and the expertise and thought process he brings to the dressing room, you are going to miss them. But look at what England have done since. They have played good cricket and won in India for god knows how many years.

    You are always going to miss the likes of Paul Collingwood, or Andrew Strauss or Freddie Flintoff, but time moves on and players are always eventually replaced.

  100.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    Prior to this Test if you had been asked to choose an England/New Zealand XI, would any of the New Zealand squad have been in it? Jonathan in a chilly Yorkshire

    Before the Test, absolutely not. That's not being disrespectful; England are an outstanding team. Ross Taylor or Brendon McCullum, you might chance at number six ahead of Joe Root. They can be very damaging. Other than that, not at all.

  101.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    Your pull shots and cover driving against Glenn McGrath in the Ashes tour of 92/93 stand as my favourite shots played by any England batsman, how do you describe your frame of mind in that golden period of your career, and do you think that freedom and fluency was something that you had to sacrifice for the responsibilities of leadership? Graham Edgar

    My favourite shot was the cover drive and that was kind of the reason why I started playing the pull shot because I wanted to go on the front foot. It was quite natural because I pressed forward on the front foot and had a trigger movement. It allowed me to play the cover drive and the pull shot more.

    When I started at Yorkshire I was a bit timid and didn't want to get out. Then Darren Lehmann arrived and gave the confidence to play more shots. He said 'you've got them in your locker so go out and play them'.

    I studied Glenn McGrath and my game plan was if you're going to cut it against the great players then you have to attack the great players.

  102.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    Do you think England will win both Ashes series easily? Shankar Ranjani

    You don't ever win an Ashes series easily; you win some more comfortably than others. In the Australia side, only Clarke worries me in the top seven. But things can change quickly in cricket and any team can beat anyone if your mindset is not right. I think England will win at home - and it will be comfortable: 2-0, 3-0 or 3-1. But the Aussie team could be dangerous at home.

  103.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    Why does being captain affect a player's form? Simon

    A captain always tends to start well. Then more baggage arrives over the years and you have more to think about. I just hope Alastair Cook keeps his freshness because he has started so well. Andrew Strauss's form dipped and my form dipped.

  104.  
    ASK VAUGHAN

    Who was the most challenging person to get the best out of when you were England captain? Simon Gartshore in London

    You have to understand every single player in your team. I wanted to know everything about the player - and what motivated them. I had to spend more time managing some like Freddie Flintoff. We had some wonderful cricketers and different characters. But I didn't want 11 clones. You always need someone to release the pressure.

  105. 2335: 

    Ok, that's it from me for a bit. Justin Goulding is taking over the mike to take you through Ask Vaughan. Look out for your questions, and Michael's answers. Cheers.

  106.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "I like the fact Cook has been inventive. There has been no movement, but he has been prepared to try and give the batsmen something different in the field positions. That's what you've got to do. It's not to say it always works but you have to give them something different to think about."

  107. 2330: 
    LUNCH INTERVAL- NZ 255-2

    Steve Finn is given the ball for the last over before lunch and he's immediately driven square for two by the irrepressible Ruthers, who now has 166 of New Zealand's 253 runs. Phenomenal effort. A single gives Finn two balls to test out the new man Taylor. He ducks a bouncer then clips a single to midwicket to round off another fine session for the hosts.

  108.  

    Ralph Brooker: "Re Sid 2329. Tell her that Hamish shouldn't be too downbeat after a debut 150 on the losing side."

  109.  

    Rob Pates, Auckland, TMS inbox: "One wicket brings two, or eight hopefully. Fingers crossed for the traditional NZ middle order collapse. England have shown them the way to do it on this pitch…"

  110. 2325: 
    APPEAL - NOT OUT- NZ 251-2

    Big appeal for lbw against Taylor as Panesar fizzes one into his front pad. Will they review it? No they won't. And rightly so as it was missing leg stump.

  111. 2323: 
    NZ 250-2

    Despite having a new batter at the crease, Cook is giving Root another over, probably because the new ball is soon due. Taylor looks a bit fidgety but plays out the over after a Ruthers single.

  112.  

    Sid Ahmed, TMS inbox: "I'm sat on the grass bank watching Hamish Rutherford take England apart, with his girlfriend sitting next to me looking very smug. She keeps asking me if I'm enjoying the cricket, would appreciate the thoughts of the TMS listeners as to how I should reply..."

  113.  

    Former England all-rounder Andrew Flintoff on Twitter: "I'm going to bed - saving myself for the fishing on the radio tomorrow. On a brighter note I think Joe Root is going to be a serious player!"

  114. 2319: 
    NZ 249-2

    A warm ovation for Ross Taylor as he walks out to bat on his 29th over. Taylor pushes to cover and wants a single but is sent back by Rutherford. He wants the strike, and on 162 not out, who would blame him?

  115.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "Beautiful bowling. He let it come in with the arm a little quicker and the ball hit middle but mainly off. Full credit to Monty - he deserved that."

  116.  
    WICKET- Williamson b Panesar 24 (NZ 249-2)

    It's a wicket. I repeat, it's a wicket. Panesar responds to being whipped through midwicket for three by sending one through a bit quicker with the arm and taking out Williamson's middle stump.

  117.  

    Scott Lovell: "I am determined to stay up until Rutherford gets out, top debut!"

  118.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "It's been a terrific performance by Rutherford - there's nothing else you can say about it. He has played some crisp shots and crisp strikes of the ball over the top. New Zealand are taking it to England after their terrible batting performance. That's how it should be - batsmen lose you a Test with poor batting."

  119. 2310: 
    RUTHERFORD 150- NZ 243-1

    Hamish Rutherford, take a bow. He reached his hundred with a sublime cover drive and here he is bringing up his 150 with a huge six into the stands over long-off off Panesar. Two balls later, it's another one, this time a flatter drive but the result is the same. He has 106 of his 159 runs in boundaries and is the 20th players in Test history to score 150 on his debut. What. An. Innings.

  120.  

    Paul, Christchurch, TMS inbox: "Re superstitions. American sprinter Michael Johnson was once asked whether he had any pre-race rituals. His reply was that he didn't, but he did have a post-race ritual in which he would always stand on a podium while someone put a gold medal round his neck."

  121.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "This is the first time in a long time where I've seen England get nothing out of the pitch. Every now and again you come up against a pitch where you get no movement whatsoever."

  122. 2307: 
    NZ 228-1

    Time for the occasional off-spin of Joe Root as Captain Cook starts to think about preserving his pacemen for the second new ball. Williamson dances down the track but doesn't get hold of his drive.

  123.  

    It's been another frustrating session for England in Dunedin. James Anderson shows his dismay by kicking angrily at the ball.

    New Zealand v England
  124. 2303: 
    NZ 227-1 (Lead by 60)

    You know what the worst thing is from an England point of view? They are not even creating chances to take wickets.

    Panesar is still sending down the odd loose ball and this time it's Williamson tucking in to cut late for four.

  125.  

    Craig Dyson, via text: "To call England's bowling attack toothless is an insult to people with dentures."

  126. 2259: 
    NZ 222-1

    Finally, a sign of movement from Jimmy as the ball moves away off the seam and beats Williamson's outside edge.

    Meanwhile, over on TMS they are talking football. Ed Smith poses the question, what would Brian Clough do now? Any thoughts?

  127. 2256: 
    NZ 221-1

    Monty may well have been charged with holding an end, but he isn't really doing that at the moment and is going at more than three per over. A smidgeon of width is pounced on by Ruthers and cut hard square for four.

  128.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "Monty just has to hold his end. He has got to give the opportunity to his captain to rotate from the other end and decide which end is the best for the seamers to attack from."

  129. 2253: 
    NZ 216-1

    Better over from Jimmy to Rutherford, cramping his style and stringing together six dot balls for the first time in a while.

  130.  

    Adam, Watford, via text on 81111: "Dear oh dear oh me, this really is England at their most dire. I get the feeling half the team have their minds on the Ashes. Or Katy Perry."

    Don't get Geoffrey Boycott started, Adam. Boycs revealed during day two's play that Firework singer Perry would be part of his fantasy golfing foursome...

  131.  

    Sam Woods: "Rutherford is batting like God. Can't bowl anywhere to him. Hopefully that's put the mockers well and truly on him."

  132. 2249: 
    NZ 215-1

    Still no joy for the Montster, and no sign of any turn either as the Black Cap pair milk him for six runs. How New Zealand spinner Bruce Martin got four wickets on this track yesterday I will never know.

  133.  

    Sean Opie: "Rutherford will want to take his mum everywhere he bats. Maybe that's his superstition?"

  134.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "I think the right approach to Rutherford is bowling dead straight at him and cutting out his options. They are feeding him on a plate at the moment."

  135. 2244: 
    NZ 209-1

    Expensive over from Anderson. It doesn't seem to matter where England bowl to Rutherford, if he can hit it he will. Three boundaries in four balls: the first a cover drive, the second a square cut, the third a whip through midwicket. Rutherford's 136 is now the second highest score by a New Zealander on debut after Matt Sinclair's 214 against the West Indies in 1999-2000.

  136.  

    Chris Jones: "Upon the news that Boycott has an iPad, someone needs to invent an app where you block cricket balls with a stick of rhubarb."

    The TMS commentary revealed earlier that Geoffrey Boycott does indeed own an iPad - complete with a screensaver of himself playing a cover drive. You can listen to TMS on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra.

  137. 2239: 
    NZ 195-1

    Williamson advances down the pitch to Panesar and smashes him down the ground for four. Panesar pitches one right up and almost yorks Williamson, but the batsman manages to drop his bat on the ball right in the nick of time. New Zealand lead by 28.

  138.   
    Bryan Waddle, BBC Test Match Special

    "I've noticed Rutherford has been acknowledging his mother regularly throughout his innings. He has been waving down to the grass embankment where she has been sitting. Good on him - mothers are important."

  139. 2237: 
    NZ 191-1

    Rutherford unleashes another stunning back-foot drive to dispatch Broad away for another boundary. Broad shakes his head, England's frustrations are starting to show out there as ruthless Ruthers continues to fill his boots.

  140.  

    Charlie Blanchard: "Re superstitions 2115. I play a lot of hockey and always arrive to coach/home game in shinpads and mouth guard."

  141.  

    New Zealand debutant Hamish Rutherford acknowledges the ovation from the Dunedin crowd after his maiden Test century.

    Hamish Rutherford
  142. 2233: 
    NZ 187-1

    Monty is rushing through his overs, as is he wont. In fact Jez Coney on TMS thinks he is bowling a bit too quickly out there. He certainly isn't doing a lot to trouble Rutherford at the moment. Would Swanny be doing more? I don't know but I have a feeling he'd be mixing it up a bit more that Monty is at the moment.

  143. 2230: 
    NZ 186-1

    After 39 balls, Williamson plays his first shot in anger, whipping a ball off his toes away through midwicket for four as Broad undoes his good work with half-volley on leg stump.

  144.  

    Simon, Head of Socks: "Shocked to hear Aggers doesn't have a tattoo. In other news: Pope is Catholic. Bears use woods as toilet facility."

  145. 2225: 
    NZ 181-1

    Jack in Huntingdon, are you Will Collins in disguise? No sooner do you call for Monty and here he is coming on to bowl for the first time today. It's a tidy, probing start and just the one run from the over. It's getting pretty overcast out there and England will be starting to think about the new ball, which is due in exactly 20 overs.

  146.  

    Jack, Huntingdon: "Panesar should be on!!!!! Terrible captaincy from Cook. Dreadful. He is way too predictable."

  147.   
    Jeremy Coney, BBC Test Match Special

    "I think if you look at the middle order of New Zealand, the likes of Taylor and McCullum, who tend to be more dashers, they will be fully aware of the way they have to play later on.

    "But to do that they have to subdue any thoughts of a collapse here. They are in new territory and have to prevent anything like that happening."

  148.   
    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "When Jade Dernbach bowls to Brendon McCullum, it must be the most tattooed delivery in cricket. But surely tattoo's have to be visible. What's the point of having a tattoo on your bottom where no-one is going to be able to see it? If you're going to go through that pain then it's got to be somewhere it can be seen hasn't it?"

  149. 2217: 
    DRINKS BREAK- NZ 180-1

    A beauty from Broad induces a play and a miss from Rutherford. Then a single through the covers to take us to drinks.

    They are on to tattoo chat in the TMS box. Here's the Aggers verdict...

  150. 2214: 
    NZ 179-1

    Rutherford pushes a single in front of square on the off side. Williamson defends the rest of the Anderson over. He has two from 28.

    Ross Taylor is in next and you can rest assured he'll be determined to show the selectors and fans what they have been missing after sitting out the South Africa series.

  151.  

    James, Germany, TMS inbox: "Re 2142. Can Will Collins take over the text commentary please!"

  152. 2207: 
    NZ 178-1

    Williamson was the previous Kiwi to make a century on Test dayboo - against India in Ahmedabad no less. He continues his watchful start as he plays out a maiden from Broad.

  153.  

    Andy, Leeds, via text on 81111: "Aggers has tweeted 'England take a wicket 158/1' - I'd have put the odds even longer."

  154. 2204: 
    NZ 178-1

    The Barmy Army trumpeter is tooting the tune of "Oh Jimmy Jimmy" as Anderson replaces Finn for another over. Rutherford comes over all Matt Hayden as he drives down the ground at a ferocious pace and almost takes out Anderson in the process. The next ball is a short ball, which catches Ruthers on the arm and irritates Anderson so much that he aims a kick at the ball but only really scuffs it with the bottom of his shoe.

  155.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "England need a couple of wickets before lunch. They've got to do whatever it takes - if it takes some verbals like Jimmy Anderson used against Peter Fulton, that's fine - as long as they don't step over the line. Whatever happens, they've got to bat 90% better than they did yesterday."

  156.  

    Alex Giles, TMS inbox: "Re Superstitions 2115. Play cricket, tennis, rugby and occasional Sunday football and always put left sock, tie up and boot first before starting on right leg."

  157.  

    Wicket-taker James Anderson celebrates as England finally make a breakthrough in Dunedin with the departure of Peter Fulton.

    England's James Anderson
  158. 2159: 
    NZ 172-1

    A thick edge from Rutherford through the vacant third slip area takes New Zealand into the lead. Not an easy man to set a field to, Ruthers.

  159.  

    David Lim: "Hamish Rutherford is officially better than his dad. Move over, pops."

    Ripples: "Fair play to Rutherford great century and made the English bowlers pay for sloppy bowling."

  160. 2155: 
    NZ 167-1

    Finn is continuing to bombard the New Zealanders with a fast and hostile spell. Rutherford gets a let-off as he deflects one off his hips and onto the ankle of Joe Root at short leg. Maiden over.

  161.  

    Will Collins: "And next week's lottery numbers are..."

  162. 2151: 
    NZ 167-1

    Rutherford is the ninth New Zealander to make a hundred on his debut. Kane Williamson is a 22-year-old right-hander tipped for big things but how will he get on here with England desperate for further inroads? he gets off the mark from the last ball of Stuart Broad's first over of the day.

  163.  

    Trish, Sheffield, via text: "One of hundreds wanting Will Collins to keep tweeting..."

  164.  

    Marc Sepetowski: "Will Collins...may I be the first to offer you a pint? And thank you BBC for giving into his superstition!"

  165.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "A remarkable innings and a remarkable way to get to his first Test match 100. It was an incredible shot. He didn't try to hit it too hard but it raced off the bat."

  166. 2146: 
    RUTHERFORD 100- NZ 166-1

    Rutherford plays Finn late to the third man fence to reach 99. Nervous? Forget about it. The young opener brings up his debut ton in superb style with a sumptuous drive through the covers for four.

    He follows up with a wild swing and a miss. Don't throw it away now old son.

  167. 2142: 
    NZ 158-1

    Just seen the wicket again and it actually shaved the bottom of Fulton's bat, not the inside edge. Moments earlier, Anderson had given the batsman a few choice words. Kane Williamson is the new man and he defends his first ball.

  168.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "That was a good catch from Matt Prior, it came right off the toe end of Fulton's bat. It was great work from Jimmy Anderson. He can get something out of any pitch."

  169.  
    WICKET- Fulton c Prior b Anderson 55 (NZ 158-1)

    Will Collins, you are a soothsayer! Fulton drives loosely at Anderson and gets a thin inside edge which carries low through to Prior. England will be mighty relieved.

  170.  

    Will Collins: "My superstition is that every time the BBC live text uses one of my tweets, England take a wicket."

  171.   
    Michael Vaughan, BBC Test Match Special

    "Good signs for England - there are clouds arriving. That could produce a bit of movement with the ball, which they desperately need, or it could rain, which they desperately need. The bowlers are bowling nicely; there's just no movement. The pitch is a beauty."

  172. 2133: 
    NZ 157-0

    Rutherford has another full-blooded swipe and collects on to cover-point. Finn bounces Fulton and continues his run down the wicket to give the batsman an earful. Fulton looks away, unmoved.

  173.  
    GET INVOLVED

    Have you got a question for Michael Vaughan? Is there a burning cricketing issue that needs addressing? Luckily for you, we're giving you the chance to ask the former England captain. Send your questions in via email at tms@bbc.co.uk, via text on 81111 or using #bbccricket on Twitter - and he will answer the best ones on TMS during the lunch interval from 23:30 GMT. He's ready...

    Michael Vaughan
  174. 2129: 
    NZ 156-0

    Thanks Daniel (below). I admire your honesty with that one. Single to Rutherford, then Fulton grinds out five balls. New Zealand are closing in on a lead here with all 10 wickets still intact.

  175.  

    Daniel Piff: "My bizarre sporting ritual is that as the referee blows the whistle for the start of the football match I always say 'go.'"

  176. 2126: 
    NZ 155-0

    Fulton gets a thick edge, but such is the way of things, the ball races away past second slip for four. Rutherford has a fierce slash outside off stump and pierces the infield but only collects a single because there is a man out at deep point to field. Superstitions? My biggest one is always having to listen to my favourite football team on the same radio. It's a true relic from the 1980s but I've been known to lug it around the house with me for two hours on a Saturday afternoon.

  177.  

    Dom, Oaks, via text on 81111: "On a brighter note, Dunedin in this weather is a gem of a ground for cricket. The trees and the clearless sky make it a treat for the crowd and the players. Beautiful."

  178. 2119: 
    NZ 149-0

    Short from Jimmy, Fulton goes on the pull and reaches his fifty with a single to long leg. It's only his second half-ton in his 11th Test and his last one was nearly seven years ago against the West Indies. Still no sniff of an England breakthrough.

  179.  

    Jack Ashbee: "At least England can't be any worse than they were yesterday. Silver lining and all that."

    Philip Doyle: "NZ could crumble as easily as Eng did yesterday, game still very much in the balance."

  180. 2115: 
    NZ 144-0

    So Geoffrey doesn't believe in superstitions, but do you? I never tire of hearing people's bizarre sporting rituals so send them in via Twitter on #bbccricket, send a text to 81111 (UK) or email to tms@bbc.co.uk.

    Rutherford drives Finn for boundaries on each side of the wicket to reach 87. Ominous start from an England point of view.

  181.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "Cricketers are very superstitious. But I didn't have any. It was me versus 13 - I was up for it. I used to count the umpires on the fielding side."

  182. 2113: 
    NZ 136-0

    Fulton pushes Jimmy for two to reach 49. Meanwhile, Aggers on TMs reveals that his Kiwi co-commentator Bryan Waddle is wearing the same shirt as yesterday in the hope that the NZ dominance continues. Cue some amusing chat about cricketing superstitions with Boycott hardly surprisingly labelling "all that stuff" as "a load of baloney."

  183.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "England have got to bowl New Zealand out by tea - a lead of, say 150, is manageable. If they play well they can get out of jail. It is possible with the quality of batsmen - if they play to their ability - to get enough runs to put New Zealand under pressure with 200 to get."

  184. 2109: 
    NZ 134-0

    So it's sunny at the moment but word has it there may be some showers on their way this afternoon. Steve Finn steams in from round the wicket on his short run but the pitch offers him little assistance and there's a single apiece for the NZ pair.

  185.   
    Adam Mountford, BBC Test Match Special

    "TMS on the air with Aggers and Sir Geoff. Boycott asked about England's prospects: 'they've had it.'"

    England v New Zealand
  186.  

    Ed, Sunbury, via text on 81111: "Michael Vaughan has done the team talk. NZ all out by lunch."

  187. 2104: 
    NZ 132-0

    Jimmy Anderson chugs in towards the morning sunshine as the Barmies belt out their traditional rendition of "Jerusalem" to mark the start of a new day. Rutherford gets New Zealand ticking over with a single to square leg. No sign of swing for Jim, but there wasn't any yesterday either.

  188.  

    Marc Sepetowski: "Is it just me who is hoping for rain then to save England's blushes? Roll on day three!"

  189.  

    England spinner Monty Panesar talking to Sky Sports: "We want to put yesterday behind us and look forward to today. The guys were pretty quiet in the dressing room yesterday and there wasn't any jumping around like we usually do.

    "We have got some cloud cover today so hopefully the ball can swing early doors and we can get a couple of wickets. For me it is about looking for more angles and more field settings and upping the pressure depending how the batsmen is playing and trying to outsmart them."

  190.   
    Geoffrey Boycott, BBC Test Match Special

    "What happens you're not playing enough cricket? You get into a happy mode of enjoying yourself. You get relaxed and you're not up for the challenge. Yesterday's were shots of players that hadn't played for weeks. I'm so disappointed with the planning."

  191.   
    BBC Radio 5 live sports extra

    "Got your cup of tea ready? Day three of #NZvEng is on @BBC5LSX now. Listen through your digital TV, DAB radio or online."

  192. 2056: 

    One thing is for sure, some stern words will have been exchanged in the England dressing-room and they will be hellbent on turning things around with the ball today today.

    New Zealand, of course, will have other ideas, and with Hamish Rutherford only 23 runs away from a century on debut and plenty of batting to come, including Ross Taylor and Brendon McCullum, there could yet be more pain for the tourists. We'll be underway at 21:00 GMT.

  193. 2051: 

    Yes, good evening and welcome to our coverage of day three of the first Test in Dunedin. England's performance on day two (day one was washed out) has seasoned followers of English cricket, such as BBC correspondent Jonathan Agnew, scratching their heads to try to remember a worse display. Michael Vaughan said England had been guilty of failing to respect the game, while Geoffrey Boycott blamed the England & Wales Cricket Board for only organising a single warm-up game and giving the players too much time "on holiday" before the match.

  194.   
    Jonathan Agnew, BBC Test Match Special

    "Cracking morning in Dunedin. Sun out. No wind…"

  195. 2045: 

    It's the night after the morning before, but even after a few hours' sleep the scorecard from Dunedin doesn't get any prettier for England fans. After a succession of shots that would have been considered careless in a game of beach cricket, England were bundled out for 167 before tea. The tourists fared little better with the ball as the unheralded opening pair of Hamish Rutherford and Peter Fulton reached 131-0 by the close. It can't get any worse, can it?

Live Scores - N Zealand v England

 

  • New Zealand drew with England
  • N Zealand: 460-9 (116.4 overs)
  • England: 167 & 421-6 (170.0 overs)
  • Venue: Dunedin

England 2nd Innings

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Cook c Watling b Boult 116
Compton lbw b Wagner 117
Finn lbw b B Martin 56
Trott c and b Wagner 52
Pietersen c Watling b Wagner 12
Bell not out 26
Root run out (Southee) 0
Prior not out 23
Extras 1nb 1w 6b 11lb 19
Total for 6 421