England v South Africa: 2nd ODI as it happened, Southampton

South Africa beat England by 80 runs in the second one-day international to move top of the world one-day international rankings.

29 August 2012 Last updated at 00:13

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  1. 2041: 

    Well, that's about it from me. It's not been a great day for England cricket fans, but they have plenty of time to bounce back - starting at The Kia Oval on Friday. That match starts at 1300 BST and, as ever, we will bring you live text commentary on the BBC Sport website alongside Test Match Special who will be on air from 1245. See you all then.


    Simon Harrison on Twitter: "Six batsmen made decent starts but did not go on to make truly big scores. This is simply not good enough at the highest level."

    paulyjg on Twitter: "Bresnan out Woakes in, Bopara out Bairstow in."

    MAN OF THE MATCH - Hashim Amla

    South Africa batsman Hashim Amla, who scored 150: "Things are falling into place and an element of fortune has to go your way too. The one-day game has its own characteristics, up front it was difficult because the ball did a bit but fortunately myself and Smithy managed to get a partnership going."

  4. 2036: 

    South Africa captain AB de Villiers: "I am very happy, I still think there are a few areas we can work on but it was a good game for us. Amla is on fire at the moment and breaking lots of records at the moment, as a team we are very proud of him. I hope he can continue like this for many years to come. We are proud to be number one in the world and we are working towards an ultimate goal of winning the World Cup."

  5. 2034: 

    England captain Alastair Cook: "We just didn't play well in all three areas, but credit to Hashim Amla. His innings showed us how to play. We were always up with the run rate but we couldn't get the partnerships going that South Africa did. It is frustrating to drop catches because you can't give good players second chances. There is no reason why they are going down, we are a good fielding side normally. They are playing some good cricket, but we can turn it around - like we did in Pakistan when we lost the Test series."

  6. 2030: 

    South Africa made six changes to their Test team for this game, underlining their strength in depth. But what do England need to do to arrest the slide in results? You know the drill by now - send us one final tweet, text or email before I bid you goodnight.

  7. 2028: 

    England were outplayed there, but we must remember that was only their first ODI defeat in 11 completed matches. Hardly the form of a poor team. If they win at the Kia Oval on Friday, they will go back to the top of the world rankings.


    Rijul Shah on Twitter: "The only England player who has consistently performed for England in ODIs is Samit Patel. Was a shining light in India."

    TMC on Twitter: "It's amazing how fast people turn on England! Playing well - best team ever.. Couple of losses to a good SA - worst team ever!"

    Wayne Tammadge on Twitter: "The difference is Gary Kirsten!"

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "It's been a pretty miserable week or two for English cricket - South Africa are just outplaying them in all departments and they look a much better side. Unless England can pick themselves up quickly, this could be one of those late summer series where one drubbing is handed out after another."

  10. 2021: 

    So there we have it, South Africa have replaced England as the number one 50-over team in the world. Alastair Cook's men have slid to third in the rankings, behind India.

  11. 40.4 overs: 
    SOUTH AFRICA WIN BY 80 RUNS- Patel c De Villiers b Morkel 45 (Eng 207 all out)

    That's it, the fun is over as Patel edges behind. He and Finn put on 37 for the 10th wicket, but that only served to delay the inevitable.

  12. 40 overs: 
    Eng 204-9 (Target 288)

    Patel takes a single to put the crowd-pleasing Finn on strike against the spinner Peterson. He takes one, to allow Patel to hit six straight down the ground. Samit follows with a four and a six - incredible hitting. The crowd are booing because he only takes two from the final ball of the over.


    From Richard, Worcester, TMS inbox: "Can I just point out: England really are not good at cricket. Time to stop kidding ourselves. We only got to no.1 because there was a slight gap between Australia's decline and South Africa's rise. There is very little chance of us getting back to top spot in the foreseeable future."

  14. 39 overs: 
    Eng 184-9

    Morkel - perhaps South Africa's best bowler on paper - is into only his fifth over, and he is met with a crashing drive for four from number eleven Steven Finn. That was almost the shot of the day. Finn is loving this, as he plays a KP-esque slap straight down the ground for another four. The fireworks continue as he crashes another boundary through the covers. Why is this lad batting at number 11, I ask?


    SahilOberoi1 on Twitter: "England experiencing a summer similar to what India did last year, difference is England are playing at home!"

  16. 38 overs: 
    Eng 171-9 (Target 288)

    Jimmy hits one down the ground and takes two, before trying a reverse sweep. His best efforts to entertain are ended by a run out - perhaps of his own doing. Patel was right to call and Anderson's lack of interest in the quick single proved costly.

  17. 37.3 overs: 
    WICKET- Anderson run out 5 (Eng 170-9)

    Poor Jimmy - he was having a bit of fun out there. Samit calls him through for a single, but Anderson is slow to set off and is well out of his ground.


    macdaddy_p on Twitter: "Another toothless effort by England. SA sharper in all areas, deservedly number one in the world."

  19. 37 overs: 
    Eng 167-8

    Patel is jumping around in his crease against the quick Parnell, and manages to clip two off his hips. Another single puts Jimmy on strike, who looks like he thinks England can still win it.


    From Killian, Cambridge, TMS inbox: "SA have been better than England this summer but haven't England made them look better than they really have been? Full credit to SA but England have been weak at a number of times so SA have looked even better."

  21. 36 overs: 
    POWERPLAY- Eng 163-8 (Target 288)

    It's powerplay time - will Jimmy and Samit have a bit of fun? Anderson takes a single to square leg and Patel hits it through the covers for a single of his own. One more for Jimmy makes it three from the over. Just a little thought - South Africa have done this to England without Steyn, Kallis and Philander.

    Henry Blofeld, BBC Test Match Special

    "The end is nigh. This game is over, to all intents and purposes."

  23. 35 overs: 
    Eng 160-8 (Target 288)

    Surely the game is up now? Parnell kicks off the over by inducing Bresnan into a false shot, and repeats the trick to Swann. From 64-1 to 159-8, it's been a collapse of mid-nineties proportions. Jimmy Anderson scampers a leg bye, but it will still go down as a double-wicket maiden for Parnell.

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "Wouldn't you believe it, on the day Kevin Pietersen scores 163 for Surrey, England's middle order have been blown away by some great bowling."

  25. 34.3 overs: 
    WICKET- Swann c De Villiers b Parnell 0 (Eng 159-8)

    Parnell is steaming in, sensing blood, and Swann edges behind as he tries to smash a wide one through the covers. He lasted just two balls.


    Marten Cox via Twitter: "This time 2 months ago England had a legitimate chance of being No.1 in all 3 formats. How times change. South Africa are top of every tree ."

  27. 34.1 overs: 
    WICKET- Bresnan c De Villiers b Parnell 0

    Start the car! Bresnan is out for a golden duck as he edges the left-arm seamer behind. Surely that's game over?

  28. 34 overs: 
    Eng 159-6 (Target 288)

    JP Duminy is back into the attack, and surely this is England's time to attack a bit? They take three easy singles from the first three balls of the over before Morgan holes out. Very disappointing from England's point of view.

  29. 33.4 overs: 
    WICKET- Morgan c Elgar b Duminy 27 (Eng 159-6)

    Another soft dismissal. Duminy bowls a rank long hop, and Morgan pulls it straight down the throat of deep mid-wicket. South Africa can't believe their luck.


    From Luke, Essex (no sign of lions), TMS inbox: "Laughably predictable tirade of criticism aimed at the England side today Marc. Ten years ago, the thought of England being top of the Test rankings let alone the ODI and T20 ones was an impossible dream. Yet despite a period of dominance in all forms of the game, there's panic and short-sighted opinions on how dreadful the whole side is from top to bottom. What makes a team strong is consistency and a winning mentality. Until this series that's what we've had in abundance. Smashing it to pieces and then trying to rebuild is both naive and the wrong way to go. South Africa have been a bit better this summer, that's all."

  31. 33 overs: 
    Eng 156-5 (Target 288)

    I don't think this South Africa team get enough credit. If they complete victory today, they will be ranked number one in the world in every format of the game. I doubt they are at the level Australia were at yet, but they are very well balanced. Parnell slips a full toss in to Morgan and there is a bit of alarm as the England batsman fails to time it properly and almost picks out a fielder. Samit Patel does the same from the next ball. As Vic Marks points out on TMS, these two have put on a few runs together but neither is looking particularly comfortable out there.


    From Chris Prior, TMS inbox: "Could we not include [both] Prior and Kieswetter as keepers. doubling our chances of taking a catch behind the wicket?"

  33. 32 overs: 
    Eng 152-5 (Target 288)

    The attendance for today's match is 14,783 - 206 short of capacity. They have had little to cheer in recent overs, however, as the runs have dried up. Morgan bursts into life by running down the wicket and slashing one down to third man to bring up England's 150. He looks to have a bit more urgency - and rightly so - as England take five from the over.

  34. 31 overs: 
    Eng 147-5 (Target 288)

    I suspect Morgan is trying to make sure he is still there with 10 overs to go, then he can chance his arm a bit. The required run-rate has passed seven an over as he takes a single off Parnell. That's as good as it gets from the over, however.

  35. 30 overs: 
    Eng 146-5 (Target 288)

    Lonwabo Tsotsobe, who left Essex under something of a cloud after he was accused of being 'rude' in a Twitter outburst last summer, is back into the attack and Morgan hits him over his head for two. He didn't quite time that one, but the ball drops into safety. Tsotsobe has good variations in pace, however, and he almost almost does for Patel, who plays early and almost chips one to Faf Du Plessis at short midwicket.

    Mark Mitchener, BBC Sport

    "England's last ODI defeat came at Eden Gardens, Kolkata on 25 October 2011 as India wrapped up a 5-0 series whitewash. Since then, they have beaten Pakistan 4-0 in the UAE, and both West Indies (2-0, with one washout) and Australia (4-0 with one washout) at home before last Friday's 'no result' against South Africa."

  37. 29 overs: 
    Eng 143-5 (Target 288)

    Patel has only faced 22 deliveries, but he already looks like he is panting out there. Morgan takes a single down to third man, but the Middlesex man is playing within himself here. Not Samit, however, who crashes a boundary and then scampers a 'quick' two.


    From Mike Bell, Ashford, TMS inbox: "Does anyone have so much as a clue as to how England are/were ranked number one in the world?"

    Winning 10 ODIs in a row may have helped...

  39. 28 overs: 
    Eng 135-5 (Target 288)

    The runs start flowing again as Morgan takes a single, Patel runs three byes and Morgan picks up two. England are not even halfway there, however. Reaching 288 appears a long way off.

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "Albie Morkel is on for JP Duminy. I thought he was injured for this match? That is the worst injury you can get. An injury that does not allow you to play but allows you to field!"

  41. 27 overs: 
    Eng 127-5 (Target 288)

    The South Africa team went to watch Premier League new boys Southampton at the weekend, but they could not transfer their winning habit to the Saints - who lost to Wigan. On the cricket pitch, Patel is struggling to get McLaren away - which results in a maiden over. Is there any hope at all?


    James Roche via Twitter: "I think you can now turn the summary from 'if' South Africa win they'll go top of the rankings to 'when'"

    Henry Winterton via Twitter: "So, have South Africa been this good all series, or have England just been this bad?"

    Fulford Arms via Twitter: "How long will it take for England to drop out of the top 3 in both Test and ODI rankings?"

  43. 26 overs: 
    Eng 127-5 (Target 288)

    Morgan takes a single, but looks a bit flat out there. Patel raises a cheer as he steps on to the back foot to Elgar and whips him for four through the leg side. He follows up with a single to finish a reasonably good over for England. Good in the sense they have not lost a wicket.


    From David, Spain, TMS inbox: "We just ain't good enough, are we?"

  45. 25 overs: 
    Eng 121-5

    As the required run-rate goes above 6.5 an over, Samit Patel strides to the crease and gets off the mark with an inside edge. England score three from the over and victory looks a long, long way away now.


    From Charles Parry,TMS inbox: "Please can someone provide a valid reason why Matt Prior is not keeping in the ODI side?"

  47. 24 overs: 
    Eng 118-5 (Target 288)

    Elgar is into the attack - and the puns keep on coming from my colleagues. Mark Mitchener asked if he has any variations, adding he has conducted himself well today. He's here all night. As is Elgar, who gets rid of Kieswetter on his way to a wicket maiden in his first over in international cricket.

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "That first delivery from Elgar to Kieswetter turned a lot, more than any delivery all day. That was his first ball in international cricket and he almost took a wicket. His third delivery then gets huge turn, and takes a thick outside edge. The ball balloons up off de Villiers' gloves, and Graeme Smith, who has just been brought in to field at slip, takes a comfortable catch."

  49. 23.3 overs: 
    WICKET- Kieswetter c Smith b Elgar 20 (Eng 118-5)

    Another horrible England dismissal as Elgar gets one to turn and Kieswetter falls over while edging it to Smith at first slip.

    Mark Mitchener, BBC Sport

    "Henry Blofeld may have alluded to the 'Essex Lion' a couple of times on TMS today, but it was a case of 'TIGER STOPS PLAY' on this very ground in May 2011, when reports of a tiger on the loose in the Hedge End area halted Hampshire Academy's match against South Wilts. It turned out to be a life-size tiger toy which blew over when a police helicopter hovered over it."

  51. 23 overs: 
    Eng 117-4 (Target 288)

    I was right - Duminy has been replaced by McLaren in the Proteas attack. The end result is the same, however, as Kieswetter creams one through the covers for four. It's a nice little fightback this. I'm going to celebrate with a mid-innings cake bar. Kieswetter, reaching for the ball, hits another through through the covers, which brings two runs. He adds another couple off his legs.

  52. 22 overs: 
    Eng 109-4 (Target 288)

    Peterson has a modest international record, but he is causing England one or two problems today - just like Samit Patel did for the hosts. Kieswetter looks relieved to get off strike, but his respite is short-lived as Morgan works a single. Kieswetter gets one more to complete another solid over.

  53. 21 overs: 
    Eng 106-4 (Target 288)

    Kieswetter has not given this one up. He comes down the track and hits Duminy back over his head for a massive, and I mean massive, six. A single puts Morgan on strike, and he plays a reverse sweep for four. Lovely stuff. I imagine we've seen the last of JP's bowling for a while.


    Darren Hawkins via Twitter: "Pietersen gets 163. England are going to struggle to get that!"

    Adam Cawkwell via Twitter: "Why do we insist on giving Bopara chance after chance when he constantly displays he just isn't cut out for this level?"

  55. 20 overs: 
    Eng 95-4

    If anyone can rescue England from this desperate situation, Morgan has a chance. Maybe a big knock or two would force him back into contention for the Test team? I read that he will give up his IPL stint next year to play county cricket and get back into the Test team.


    From Kevin Port, TMS inbox: "What with the KP debacle and leaving Bairstow out of the one-day side after he's just got good Test runs? Then persisting with Bopara and playing Kieswetter instead of Prior? I think the selectors, who have been great for years, are now losing the plot!"

  57. 19 overs: 
    Eng 92-4

    Craig Kieswetter is at the crease, and he owes England some runs after a poor performance behind the stumps. Morgan takes a single to put him on strike and the Somerset man works it away wide of mid on to get off the mark. These two are the last recognised pair for England with Patel, Bresnan, Swann, Anderson and Finn to come.

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "That is a typical Ageas Bowl wicket. That was near enough a long hop. Ravi Bopara could have hit that anywhere, but because the ball did not arrive he has hit it straight to extra cover. It was not a good delivery. All Peterson has done is let go of that ball."

  59. 18 overs: 
    Eng 90-4 (Target 288)

    There's not much to be said about this over, apart from how bad Bopara's shot was. It baffles me how somebody with so much talent can play so many bad shots time after time.

  60. 18 overs: 
    WICKET- Bopara c du Plessis b Peterson 16

    Peterson bowls the worst ball of the day, and Bopara slaps it straight to du Plessis at extra cover. I bet Goochie's blood pressure has gone through the roof after that.

    Mark Mitchener, BBC Sport

    "Over in Sharjah, Pakistan have been bowled out for 198 in 45.1 overs by Australia in the first of three ODIs. Mitchell Starc, recently of Yorkshire, took 5-42, while fellow paceman James Pattinson enjoyed an economical 3-19 from nine overs."

  62. 17 overs: 
    Eng 87-3

    It's a fine balancing act now, as England try and rebuild without falling behind the run-rate. Morgan averages 137 at this ground, and he will have admired Bopara's four past point off Parnell. Ravi's wristy single off his legs puts Morgan on strike, who is off the mark with a single down to third man. England's batting coach Graham Gooch looks cross on the balcony, and even another four from Bopara can't raise a smile. Instead, he scratches his head.

  63. 16 overs: 
    Eng 77-2 (Target 288)

    There's a lot of pressure on Ravi Bopara, judging by Jonny Bairstow's recent performances. He finds the middle for two runs through the covers, but he still looks jittery. His running looks frenetic and then he comes down the pitch to Peterson and gets an inside edge for one. Two more for Bell, before he is bowled by Peterson. Eoin Morgan is the next man in.

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "Bell has played what looked like an immaculate forward defence, so it has either turned miles, or he has played well inside it and misjudged it. He looks like he has missed the ball by quite a distance. Peterson has tossed it up and got out one of England's best batsmen."

  65. 15.4 overs: 
    WICKET- Bell b Peterson 45 (Eng 77-3)

    Is that the wicket which tips the balance in favour of South Africa? Bell plays inside the line to one which straightens and is given his marching orders. The England batsman is left wondering how he missed that one as he trudges off.


    From John B via text on 81111: "I can't understand all the abuse of the England openers. They've been some of our most consistent players throughout our winning run and they have proven their class in both the Test and ODI arena."

    From Will Bateman via text on 81111: "In England's last 5 (non rainy) ODIs, four times Bell or Cook have made over 50, and two times they have made over 100. Dominating."

  67. 15 overs: 
    Eng 72-2 (Target 288)

    The required rate is above six runs an over now but, while Bell is at the crease and Eoin Morgan is still to come, England will be reasonably happy. Bell takes a single and Bopara plays an expansive drive for one through the covers. One for the photographers that. Two more singles close a tidy Parnell over.

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "I think if I were batting with Ravi Bopara, I'd be doing all the calling. Some batsmen, you could just go through on a nod - Butch and I ran together pretty well - while with others you'd always call, like Nasser Hussain. Nasser said he used to get 'bees in his head' as he was concentrating on his batting, and would forget to run."

  69. 14 overs: 
    Eng 68-2 (Target 288)

    A leg bye puts Bell on strike, who is playing the percentages for now as England try to rebuild following Trott's dismissal. After again rotating the strike, Ravi almost goes for another crazy run and is 'politely' told to get back into his crease by Bell. Two from the over.


    From Scott in Sittingbourne, TMS inbox: "Any chance you can add the following to the 'in summary' comments? 'KP isn't playing, get over it and move on'!"


    From Ben Karlin, TMS inbox: "What on earth is Aidan Connolly [9th over] talking about? Our 10 consecutive ODI victories included six consecutive centuries by openers including three from Cook. Think we're OK in that department for now."

  72. 13 overs: 
    Eng 66-2 (Target 288)

    Bell moves to 40 by pushing Peterson for a single, and Bopara is off the mark with a quick single to mid-off. It was a terrible, nervous call, however, and Bell is only just in after a review from the third umpire.

  73. 12 overs: 
    Eng 64-2

    I wish I could play the sweep as well as Trott and Bell. Last time I tried it, I top-edged it into my mouth. Needless to say, I have not brought it out since. I certainly wouldn't fancy facing up to Morkel, who shows his class once again by removing Trott - with the help of some outstanding fielding from Elgar. Ravi Bopara is the next man in.

    Vic Marks, BBC Test Match Special

    "Elgar ended up taking the catch with two fingers and a thumb. It was always going over his shoulder, and it looked like he was struggling. Trott hit it a little better than Elgar thought. He kept his eye on it, kept his cool, belatedly backpedalled and just hung on as he dived backwards to the boundary."

  75. 11.4 overs: 
    WICKET- Trott c Elgar b Morkel 23 (Eng 64-2)

    We can't keep that man Elgar out of the match, can we? Trott flicks Morkel down to deep square leg and, running backwards, Elgar takes a brilliant one-handed catch over his shoulder.


    From Dan Paton, TMS inbox: "Last time one of the openers dominated would be KP against Pakistan in the winter, bring him back!"

  77. 11 overs: 
    Eng 63-1

    Well, Vic Marks has called it. Let's see if he is right as left-arm spinner Robin Peterson comes into the attack. Bell plays a back foot drive through the covers for a single. If Bell's innings continues, it will be every bit as good as Amla's. There's a long way to go, however, as, after a Trott single, he brings out the reverse sweep that brings three. Trott tries the same shot and gets four.


    From Simon Miller, TMS inbox: "OK, I'll venture a proper suggestion. England has a chance. Firstly, the SA attack is not as settled and... authoritative?... as their Test attack. There is no Dale 'What was that whizzing past?' Steyn, or Vernon 'McGrath' Philander. Secondly, the SA team has this psychological tendency to fold in one-dayers - we've only just got over that in the Test arena. While saying that, Amla's beard is worth a couple of wickets, so maybe England should beware."

    Vic Marks, BBC Test Match Special

    "I think the crux is when the South Africa slower bowlers come on, with Peterson and with Duminy and his occasional off-breaks. I think they may be difficult. South Africa did not lose too many wickets to spin, but it is going to be more difficult against their bowlers."

  80. 10 overs: 
    Eng 54-1

    Amla's slip on the boundary means he is getting stick every time the ball comes his way. Trott and Bell add three to the score with separate shots down to Amla. Our mate Dean Elgar is caught napping at long on when Bell pushes for a quick single, knowing a direct hit would have put him in real trouble.


    Jordan King via Twitter:‏ "England may not have KP but Morgan will save the day with his middle order destruction. After Bopara fluffs his lines again."

    Josh Hobbs via Twitter: "Has anybody seen Alastair Cook? He used to see the ball like a beachball. This guy isn't up to much."


    From Simon A, Merseyside, TMS inbox: "Blimey, Jonathan Hornby in the City [1711] seems to know his stuff. Careful Marc, he might be after a career change!"

  83. 9 overs: 
    Eng 50-1

    Left-armer Wayne Parnell replaces Tsotsobe and is hit through the leg side for two by Trott. The Warwickshire man cuts down to third man for a single. However, he is soon back on strike as Bell pulls a single through midwicket. Another single allows Bell to bring up England's 50 in exactly nine overs.


    From Aidan Connolly, TMS inbox: "When was the last time one of our openers dominated a game against a big team? How many times have they got to fail before changes are made?"

  85. 8 overs: 
    Eng 43-1

    Morne Morkel is brought into the bowling attack. I saw a cracking stat during the third Test that he induced false shots with about 40% of his deliveries during the Test series. Incredible. His partner-in-crime Dale Steyn is not playing today, as he recovers from a slight injury. Morkel drops a short one in to Bell, who hooks it for four - a glorious shot. After a wide, Bell takes two down to Amla at third man, who is sarcastically cheered when he fields the ball cleanly.


    From John from Essex, TMS inbox: "I must say that I am, especially in light of his century yesterday, a little disappointed to not see Luke Wright in the England line-up."

    He's in the World Twenty20 squad but not in this ODI squad, having played the last of his 46 ODIs in June 2011

  87. 7 overs: 
    Eng 36-1

    Trott and Bell are rotating the strike quite well now and look reasonably comfortable out there. I imagine it won't be long until we see the spinners. England are batting properly, and that is the only way to go on this pitch. You guys have gone all quiet on Twitter - is it tea time?

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "You score 150 in the most sublime fashion then you make a complete goon of yourself down there at third man! Amla came running in thinking he might be able to take the catch. Then when he realised that he was not going to get there he tried to put the anchors on. Both his feet went from underneath him."

  89. 6 overs: 
    Eng 34-1

    Hold the back page - Hashim Amla is human after all! Jonathan Trott cuts one in the air down to Amla on the third man boundary, who slips in comical fashion and watches the ball bounce over him for four. If he hadn't score a majestic 150, I'd feel sorry for him.


    From Ashley, driving past the ground and wishing he was inside, via text on 81111: "Bell needs to kick on and get a big score for any hope of England winning this, as there is no KP for quick scoring."

  91. 5 overs: 
    Eng 29-1

    By the way, what do you think about that Peter Trego tweet below? I suspect it's not about talent and runs with KP at the moment. Guess what? Trott has taken another single to third man, before Bell punches one past point for four. That was 'Amla-esque'. He looks like he has got the measure of Tsotsobe now, as a long hop is cracked to the boundary for another four - taking him to 23 off 16 balls.

  92. 4 overs: 
    Eng 20-1

    Lovely stuff Belly - the opener taking advantage of a slightly short ball from McLaren to belt it over midwicket for four. A leg bye puts Trott on strike, who is not finding the gaps as well as Bell at the moment. He does manage to get up the other end eventually, again touching down to third man.


    Somerset all-rounder Peter Trego on Twitter: "After what I've just seen, KP and England need to kiss and make up, that fella is different gravy and people need to see him on the big stage!!"

  94. 3 overs: 
    Eng 14-1

    Bell takes two off Tsotsobe from the first ball of the over, but is not in control when he goes for the hook and edges it over the keeper for four. He got away with that one - can he make the most of it? Some good, positive running sees him take another two before a single rounds off the over.

    Mark Mitchener, BBC Sport

    "Somerset have removed He Who Must Not Be Named - Kevin Pietersen was last out for the small matter of 163 as Surrey are bowled out for 317 by Somerset on day one of their Championship match at Taunton."


    From Marten Cox via text on 81111: "Alastair Cook does not like ODI cricket at Southampton. 0 against the West Indies earlier this summer."

  97. 2 overs: 
    Eng 5-1

    Ryan McLaren, who took a hat-trick for Kent on T20 Finals Day a few years ago, takes the other new ball and is spot on from the off. He is bowling a tight line, until Trott clips one down to fine leg for a single. It's interesting that Morne Morkel has not taken the new ball after getting smashed around Cardiff by Bell in the rain-ruined first ODI between the sides.


    Cricket United via Twitter: "Tsotsobe wasn't good enough for Essex but plenty good enough for Cook there."

    Jarleth Eaton via Twitter: "Hand the shield back now."

  99. 1 over: 
    Eng 3-1

    What a disastrous start for England, as Cook is bowled from the second ball of the innings by Lonwabo Tsotsobe. That brings Jonathan Trott to the crease, who steers it down to third man to get himself, and his team, off the mark. Tsotsobe's not the quickest, but he manages to get one to rear up at Ian Bell and almost takes the glove. Bell and Trott manage singles off the final two balls of the over.

    Neil Manthorp, BBC Test Match Special

    "That dismissal of Alastair Cook was unexpected because Tsotsobe beat him for pace. He normally bowls around 80mph. He is not a fast bowler but that is a fast bowler's wicket."

  101. 0.2 overs: 
    WICKET- Cook b Tsotsobe 0 (Eng 0-1)

    I told you Tsotsobe was good, as he beats Cook for pace and uproots two of the England skipper's stumps. What a start for the tourists.

  102. 1716: 

    Alastair Cook and Ian Bell are about to take strike to Lonwabo Tsotsobe, who has taken 58 wickets at an average of 20 in his one-day career. He could be the 'Amla' of the bowling attack - basically a nightmare for England.

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "The pitch is slow. There was a little bit of grip for Samit Patel and Graeme Swann, though there was no great amount of turn. South Africa have maybe four slow bowlers to call upon, as Elgar bowls a few left-arm spinners as well as Peterson, du Plessis and Duminy. They have spin options and they have runs on the board."


    From Simon Aindow, Southport, TMS inbox: "Come on England. 293-4 off 48 overs will do nicely! Easy street."


    From Jonathan Hornby, City of London, TMS inbox: "Can't see us getting close to be honest. We were unlucky with the new balls and based on that I don't expect South Africa to come away from the early exchanges wicket-less. The pressure will then be on the middle order who may well get behind the rate early on and then succumb to the pressure of trying to get the scoreboard going on a slow pitch."

  106. 1711: 

    On last night's Tuffers and Vaughan show on 5 live, a programme also featuring Hampshire skipper Dimitri Mascarenhas, former England skipper Michael Vaughan revealed how he had sustained an injury during the afternoon: "I played in this match for the NatWest legends, the keeper's stood up so you think it's going to be Dimi's pace, 68mph, he's bowled me this yorker and I'm batting in trainers, with the meshing on the front, it's smacked me straight on the front and I've broken my toe, there was no reverse, I just missed it. The toe is a right mess, but then I had to bat on, I couldn't limp off, there were people watching, I'd have looked a right idiot."

    You can download a podcast of the programme or listen again on the BBC iPlayer.

  107. 1710: 

    Welcome back, everyone. I trust you have had a nice tea? Are well all set for England's reply? There's a lot at stake, remember. The world ODI number one ranking, to be precise. Let me know your thoughts via Twitter #bbccricket, text on 81111 or by emailing tms@bbc.co.uk - remembering to put 'For Marc Higginson' in the subject line.

  108. 1634: 

    I make South Africa favourites to win after they posted that total on a slow pitch. I imagine Alastair Cook or Ian Bell need to 'do an Amla' if England are to get close. Fascinating stuff ahead, so stay with us. I'm just nipping for a bite to eat, so I'll be back in about 30 minutes. TMS are ploughing on through the break, if you need to maintain your cricket fix.

  109. 50 overs: 
    SA 287-5

    Finn is another who has not got the wickets his bowling has often deserved today, but it shows how well Amla has played that he survived the new ball against him and Anderson. The Middlesex man bowls the final over and Du Plessis takes a single to put Amla on strike. An extraordinary shot brings four through deep point and that brings up his 150 from 123 balls, before he holes out to Bresnan. Du Plessis takes two from the final ball of the innings to set England a target of 288 to win.

  110. 49.4 overs: 
    WICKET- Amla c Bresnan b Finn 150 (SA 285-5)

    The whole ground is on its feet to applaud Hashim Amla, who has played one of the best one-day innings of recent times. He is out when he tries an upper cut to a Finn slower ball and is caught by Bresnan.

  111. 49 overs: 
    SA 280-4

    Amla takes a single from the first ball of Anderson's over to move to 141 not out - his highest ever one-day international score. The Proteas are dealing in singles in this penultimate over until Amla gets three because of a Samit Patel misfield on the boundary. Anderson doesn't look too impressed with that effort. Hashim then drives over deep extra cover for another two runs to move to 146 ahead of the final over.

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "South Africa have batted themselves into a position of strength, and have given themselves a chance of becoming the top-ranked one-day side. But South Africa have not had everything their own way. The openers had a little luck and were stopped from playing the big shots immediately. Finn and Anderson bowled really well with the two new balls to the openers Smith and Amla, but once they got in they built a decent opening partnership."

  113. 48 overs: 
    SA 270-4

    Finn is back into the attack and Du Plessis pulls him for a single from his first ball. Amla continues to impress as he moves across his wicket and flicks one past square leg. It's turning into a good over as Du Plessis is limited to a single through the covers. Amla takes another run to long on before Du Plessis gets a thick inside edge through fine leg for four. Unlucky Finn, lad.


    Jonathan Brook via Twitter: "Unless Kieswetter comes out and scores 115 off 63 then this has been a fine example of how dropped catches = a drop in the world rankings."

    The Cricket Podblast via Twitter: "Anyone wondering why Prior is not in team should check out his ODI average: 24 after 68 matches."

    Daniel Whitehead via Twitter: "Developing the no Kieswetter thought - who is England's next Test keeper and why aren't we warming them up?"

    Malcolm Ashton, BBC Test Match Special statistician

    "Amla now has the highest one-day international score on this ground, beating Ian Bell who's scored 126 here twice."

  116. 47 overs: 
    SA 262-4

    Amla takes two to bring up South Africa's 250 before Bresnan bowls a full toss and is whacked for four through midwicket. I wonder if the batsman is thinking of his 150 now? It looks like it as he plays a sensational shot by flicking it through first slip area for four. Majestic. Two scampered runs from the final delivery take him to 138 from 117 balls - showing you don't need to smash it out of the ground to score big runs in 50-over cricket.


    From Matt, Redditch, TMS inbox: "I remember saying to England's keeper Russell as he went out to bat with Atherton in Johannesburg in 1995 - 'Are you going to play for the Dvorak?'"

  118. 46 overs: 
    SA 248-4

    Patel is bowling and if anybody deserves a wicket today, it is him. He's not turning it much now, as he adapts to the game situation by firing in 'darts'. He concedes just four runs from the over. Good work.

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "Swann did him for pace with a delivery timed at 59mph. De Villiers played across the ball and it hit the bottom of the off stump. Swann was disappointed the over before that he did not get the caught behind decision, so he decided to do it himself by hitting the stumps and not bringing the umpires into play."

  120. 45 overs: 
    SA 244-4

    Amla moves past 3,000 ODI runs with a boundary down to fine leg. He averages almost 59 from as many matches - wow! He even has the audacity to walk down the track to Anderson to take a single through the covers. Du Plessis doesn't look like he will hang around either as he pulls one off the front foot in front of square for four. He made his old Lancashire team-mate look like a medium pacer there. Morgan makes a fine stop from the final delivery to deny Amla any more runs - for now.

    Mark Mitchener, BBC Sport

    "Pakistan have lost three quick wickets against Australia in the first ODI in Sharjah, with pacemen James Pattinson and Mitchell Starc doing the damage. More surprisingly, Aussie captain Michael Clarke has brought himself on as first change for the 11th over, then fellow part-time spinner David Hussey for the 12th."

  122. 44 overs: 
    SA 232-4

    Swann has steam coming out of his ears and, after De Villiers and Amla take four from the over, AB is bowled - to the obvious delight of the bowler. It's quality stuff from Swann, who looked a champion bowler there. Faf du Plessis comes to the crease and is instantly off the mark with a single.

  123. 43.4 overs: 
    WICKET- De Villiers b Swann 28 (SA 230-4)

    Revenge has never tasted sweeter for Swann, as he fires one in a bit quicker and De Villiers is bowled playing all around it.


    From Liam, North London, TMS inbox: "Now that they are not the best and we have won it a few times, can we return to the Ashes being a big series, but not the be all and end all. Too much focus on it at the expense of other series. At the grounds, this summer's Test series was almost overshadowed by next summer. Not really into one-dayers or T20 at all, no contest in the importance."

  125. 43 overs: 
    SA 226-3

    Anderson becomes England's fifth different bowler in as many overs, and the Lancashire man has been economical if nothing else today. Three dot balls are followed by a single for de Villiers and a four by Amla, who whips the ball off his legs through square leg.

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "Hashim Amla has the highest all-time average of any full member player in one-day internationals. The Netherlands' Ryan ten Doeschate tops the averages."

  127. 42 overs: 
    SA 218-3

    Not sure what happened there as De Villiers top-edges one on the toe of his bat while sweeping and Kieswetter takes the catch. Incredibly, Simon Taufel says not out - and the bowler Graeme Swann pulls massive chunks of hair out of his head in disbelief. That was one for the umpires' bloopers dvd. A shocker. South Africa take five from the over and Swann walks off chuntering to himself while aiming kicks at fresh air. I don't think he's too happy about that.

    Neil Manthorp, BBC Test Match Special

    "Hashim Amla sweats less in making a hundred than I do when I'm commentating."

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "That was a brilliant 100 from Amla, off 96 balls with ten fours. And it has been chanceless. If you wrapped it up and brought it out in 15 years, you would still say that it was a wonderful innings. His placement and the way he times the ball is superb."

  130. 41 overs: 
    AMLA 100- SA 213-3

    Amla takes a single off Patel to move to 100 - a simply sensational knock. After de Villiers takes a single of his own, Patel drags one down and Amla pulls it over midwicket for four. It looks like we can expect some big hitting in the last 10 overs.

  131. 40 overs: 

    Oh no. Amla feathers a Finn delivery down leg and Kieswetter drops the simple chance - the third chance he has spilled today. Mistakes like that make you wonder why Matt Prior - possibly the best wicketkeeper/batsman in the world - is not in the squad. Amla moves to 98 by steering one over the top to third man. A single down the ground takes him to 99. De Villiers takes two himself to move to 20.

    Mark Mitchener, BBC Sport

    "With a new round of County Championship matches starting today, England fans may be interested to know that He Who Must Not Be Named - also known as Kevin Pietersen - has just reached his century for Surrey against Somerset, from 116 balls including 15 fours. Meanwhile, Lancashire have recovered somewhat from being 11-4 against Durham at Liverpool and are now 69-5."

  133. 39 overs: 
    SA 196-3

    Take. That. Tim. Amla sees that long on is up inside the circle and he cracks it over the fielder's head for four. He really is a joy to watch when he plays shots like that. Cook is the man at long on and Amla steers one down to him for another single to move to 92 from 91 balls. Some good fielding from Bopara and Bell either side of the wicket denies De Villiers runs from the final two balls of Bresnan's over.

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "South Africa are trying to make use of the batting powerplay, and if these two batsmen stay together for another seven or eight overs, a score of 300 is possible."

  135. 38 overs: 
    SA 191-2

    De Villiers aims a bit of a slog at Finn and gets one through midwicket, before Amla also steals one through the leg-side. De Villiers shows plenty of improvisation as he takes a step back to hit one through the covers for a very useful three runs. The skipper looks in good form today.

  136. 37 overs: 
    SA 185-3

    Samit Patel into the attack - his three boundary riders are at deep backward square leg, deep cover and long-off, tempting De Villiers to hit against the spin through the leg side. A wristy flick to Anderson at deep backward square leg brings him a single, then Amla comes down the pitch and hoists Patel towards long-on for a first-bounce four. A drilled single to mid-on takes him to 86, De Villiers moves to 14 from 10 balls with a single to pinch the strike.


    From Iain in Sussex, TMS inbox: "There's no Haydn the fact that Elgar wasn't in his Pomp in the Circumstances!"

    Many others suggested enigmatic variations on this theme...

  138. 36 overs: 
    POWERPLAY- SA 178-3

    It's batting powerplay time as Steven Finn comes into the attack. De Villiers, with his handkerchief hanging out of his pants, whips a classy single from the first ball before Amla plays and misses a fantastic delivery. Amla goes for another cheeky run and Alastair Cook scores a direct hit, but the batsman just manages to make his ground. A lovely stroke down the ground brings four for De Villiers, classic stuff.


    From Mike, Glasgow, TMS inbox: "It's a pity Mr Richards is not on TMS today. I could listen to Vivaldi!"


    Robert Hawkins via Twitter: "Oh dear. I'm sorry Elgar's out - a case of unfinished sympathy."

    Joe Byrnes via Twitter: "It was only a matter of time before Swanny orchestrated that dismissal."

  141. 35 overs: 

    De Villiers is a dangerous man once he gets going, and England could do with getting him early. They get their chance when he edges Bresnan behind but Kieswetter, diving to his right, can't quite get there and the chance goes to ground. That is the only run of the over, however, as Bresnan turns the screw.

  142. 34 overs: 
    SA 166-3

    I said earlier that Swann was not getting as much turn as Patel, but Elgar is struggling to play him and it is no surprise when Swann bowls him with a real jaffa. Skipper AB de Villiers comes to the crease and thick edges a single from his first delivery.

    Vic Marks, BBC Test Match Special

    "Swann held the ball back and beat Elgar in the flight. It pitched middle and middle and leg and hit off. Elgar was in there for quite a long time, and a real cynic would say that Swann made an error there in getting him out as we now have De Villiers coming in. He is likely to be a bit more fluent, as a right-hander against Swann with the ball turning into him."

  144. 33.5 overs: 
    WICKET- Elgar b Swann 15 (SA 165-3)

    What a ripper Swanny has delivered to Elgar there. It was a vicious, turning delivery that beat Elgar all ends up. Enter AB de Villiers.


    From Carole in Maidenhead, TMS inbox: "Raihaan in Cape Town [16th over], your comment would be a big 'Ouch', if it weren't for the fact you are comparing winning the Ashes - the penultimate creme de la creme cricketing format - with a much inferior, though pleasing game. No, England does not know what it is to win the latter, but then Barcelona FC don't know what it's like to win the Conference League."

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "Amla is batting at a rate of run a ball without really breaking sweat. He has made it look wonderfully easy so far. There is nothing to worry about for South Africa when Amla is batting so beautifully. As a fielding team, England are probably looking up at scoreboard and wondering how he has got so many runs."

  147. 33 overs: 
    SA 164-2

    We nearly have another run-out involving Amla, who drives towards mid-off and watches as Elgar struggles to make his ground. A better throw to the keeper and he might have gone there. What would be do for puns then? Amla steps on the gas to score four and then three from the final two balls of the over. He is on 79 not out now.


    From Nigel in Newbury via text on 81111: "England now need to get a couple of South African batsman out Faure duck."


    From Hans Moleman, TMS inbox: "Is it a coincidence that England's upturn in results has also meant less Chopin and changing the team?"

  150. 32 overs: 
    SA 153-2

    Elgar looks like he wants to get a move on, as he comes down the wicket to Swann and hits one high into the outfield. He gets two for his troubles, but it was nowhere near the middle and he still looks a bit unsure out there. Amla, when not trying to run everyone else out, is batting serenely and finding the gaps with ease. He manages to cream one through the covers from the final ball of the over and Bresnan makes a diving stop on the boundary. He gets three, however, to make it nine from this Swann over.

    Vic Marks, BBC Test Match Special

    "The England fielding is still threatening. We have already had one run-out and we almost had a second in that over. If that throw from Anderson had hit the stumps at the non-striker's end, Amla would have been struggling."

  152. 31 overs: 
    SA 144-2

    Amla takes three runs from the first two deliveries, to put the man of the moment, Dean Elgar, on strike. The new boy is dancing to England's tune at the moment. He is struggling to get the ball away.


    Mr X via Twitter: "No doubt Elgar will be looking to baton."

    Paul Pharoah via Twitter: "I'm enjoying these composer jokes but need to pop out for some tea. Bach in a minuet."

  154. 30 overs: 
    SA 141-2

    Amla refuses to be tied down and gets down on one knee to smash Swann for four over midwicket. He almost gifts his wicket, however, when he miscues one through the leg-side and watches with relief as the ball evades the despairing dive of Eoin Morgan. Amla might be a great batsman, but his running is terrible as he survives another run-out opportunity. After Elgar calls him through for a quick single, he is caught ball watching and Anderson's throw would have seen the back of him had it hit.

  155. 29 overs: 
    SA 134-2

    The average score in one-day internationals at Southampton is 228, so South Africa look well on course to top that. Bopara is keeping it tight, with his medium pacers becoming an ever-important part of England's limited-overs teams. Elgar goes for the pull and gets a bit of luck when he gets it a bit finer and the ball races away for four down to fine leg.

    Mark Mitchener, BBC Sport

    "Elsewhere in the world of cricket, Pakistan have won the toss in Sharjah and will bat first against Australia in the first of their three one-day internationals. Wicketkeeper Kamran Akmal makes his first appeaance for Pakistan since March 2011."

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "Hashim Amla is like the Nasser Hussain of South Africa with run-outs - he's like the driver who's never had an accident but has seen thousands..."

  158. 28 overs: 
    SA 128-2

    I'm impressed with some of these Elgar puns, I see I'm writing for an intelligent bunch. Swann continues, mixing up the flight of the ball to try and force the new batsman into a false shot. Elgar manages to get another single, before Amla sweeps for a couple. On TMS, Mark Butcher says 270 will be a good score on this pitch.


    Marc Morrow via Twitter: "I'm interested to see how Elgar conducts himself when he comes in to bat."

    Tom Turnbull via Twitter: "I am expecting a big score from Elgar today."

    Si Lomas via Twitter: "Amla looks very Bizet at the crease and really Ravels in these conditions. England need him out quickly."

  160. 27 overs: 
    SA 124-2

    Dean Elgar scores his first one-day international run, when he hits Ravi Bopara for one through square leg. That's the highlight of a solid over, as England look to regain some sort of control.

    Neil Manthorp, BBC Test Match Special

    "Duminy has sacrificed himself there. Amla must have thought he had hit the ball wider or more cleanly, but he he basically hit it straight to Anderson at square leg and said 'yes!'"

  162. 26 overs: 
    SA 121-2

    Lee Sharpe, I mean Graeme Swann, is back into England's attack. It must be worrying for him that Patel looks more of a threat - and is getting more turn. That doesn't matter too much when there is bad running between the wickets, however, as Duminy is dismissed.

  163. 26 overs: 
    WICKET- JP Duminy run out 14 (SA 121-2)

    Duminy takes one for the team when, after being called through for one by Amla, he sacrifices himself and is run out. That brings Dean Elgar to the crease - cue more 'classic' puns.


    Lewis Butterfield via Twitter: "Anyone who watched the CB40 yesterday will probably agree that it is time Luke Wright and Matt Prior earned ODI recalls."

    William Dallmann via Twitter: "How are Bairstow and Prior not in this ODI team? Madness."

  165. 25 overs: 
    AMLA 50 (SA 118-1)

    Patel might not be Jony Rhodes-like in the field, but he is getting plenty of turn. However, Amla works him for a single to bring up his 50. It has been majestic stuff from the great man. It has been an almost faultless knock. The player of the summer for me.

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "There is only one review in one-day cricket and that is now gone and wasted. It would have crashed into leg stump three-quarters of the way up, but it pitched outside leg stump."

  167. 24 overs: 
    SA 112-1

    Duminy survives a review early in Anderson's over, and England could have done with getting him early. He reminds me of the great one-day player Neil Fairbrother, the way he nudges the ball around. He scores boundaries too - as he crashes one through the covers for four. Textbook stuff.


    That's a wasted review by England as replays show the ball pitched outside leg stump. Duminy is allowed to continue.


    Anderson gets one to hit Duminy in front and, after some discussion, it is referred to the third umpire.

  170. 23 overs: 
    SA 104-1

    Patel is England's best bowler today, as Duminy aims a slog and misses it - the ball running away for the first extra of the innings. It's a sign of respect for Samit as Amla tries to take spin out of the equation by using his feet and taking a single down the ground. He is now 47 not out.


    From Phil Thomas, Cardiff, TMS inbox: "Looks like this wicket is a mystery for England to 'un-Ravel'."

  172. 22 overs: 
    SA 101-1

    Anderson is back into the attack, sniffing blood after Smith was gobbled up by Big Tim. That wicket looks to have reinvigorated England in the field, as Eoin Morgan makes an amazing stop at point which saves a certain boundary fro Duminy's bat. JP manages to get one from the final ball to make it two from the over.


    Si Lomas via Twitter: "Strauss couldn't Handel Morkel in the Tests so there is no point playing him in ODIs. Besides England don't get beat Beethoven either."

  174. 21 overs: 
    SA 99-1

    Amla looks like he is going to take on the aggressor role, and he is made to look a bit silly when one turns and he totally misses it. He's not too bothered, however, as he shuffles down the wicket and take two over midwicket next ball. The batsman then inadvertently lobs one in the air as Patel gets another to turn and bounce. He gets away with it, but the inclusion of Patel looks to have been the correct one from England.

    Vic Marks, BBC Test Match Special

    "That was an ugly pull that Smith got a top edge to. Smith shuffled down the pitch and Bresnan maybe saw him coming and banged it in. Kieswetter did not panic, and you can tell by the way he was congratulated by his team-mates that was not the easiest of catches."

  176. 20 overs: 
    SA 95-1

    Smith's demise brings JP Duminy to the crease, who gets off the mark from his first delivery. Amla then edges one through first slip for four - although it looks to be a deliberate shot. Can England take advantage of their opening now?

  177. 19.2 overs: 
    WICKET- Smith c Kieswetter b Bresnan 52 (SA 89-1)

    Big Tim - and the powerplay - has done it. Smith goes for the big shot and can only top edge it behind him. Wicketkeeper Kieswetter gets under it well and takes a simple catch. JP Duminy comes to the crease.

  178. 19 overs: 
    SA 89-0

    Smith celebrated his landmark with a well-earned drink. They are back under way now, however, and Patel has been entrusted to bowl during the powerplay. He is bowling well, to be fair, and concedes three singles before getting one to hit Amla on the pads. The batsman is far too forward to be given out, but that does not stop Craig Kieswetter getting a bit giddy behind the stumps.

    Vic Marks, BBC Test Match Special

    "Graeme Smith does not get any prettier. He has not played that fluently - I think Amla has played lot more silkily. He wills himself to runs and he has a method that is all of his own. He is no longer nimble on his feet, but he has found his way in all forms of the game to make runs. He probably enjoys one-day cricket now that he has given up the captaincy. He can just concentrate on enjoying his batting."

  180. 1414: 

    Last night's Tuffers and Vaughan programme analysed a number of topical cricketing issues, including the retirement of VVS Laxman, and whether there was unrest between him and India captain MS Dhoni. Phil Tufnell also recalled the moment he decided to end his playing days: "It was freezing cold, I had about four jumpers on, it was pre-season training and I was making lunch for everyone and you do get that defining moment, 'I've had 20-odd great years but I'm not buttering any more sandwiches.'"

    You can download a podcast of the programme or listen again on the BBC iPlayer.


    From Ali, London, TMS inbox: "I wonder if the ICC mace is now on Strauss's Chopin Lizst."

  182. 18 overs: 
    SMITH 50 - SA 86-0

    Alastair Cook must have realised the situation was beginning to run away from England, and has been proactive by taking the powerplay and bringing Bresnan back into the attack. Smith pulls one to Bell on the boundary to move to 49. I'm sure it is for performance purposes, but Bresnan looks like he is wearing a vest underneath his one-day pyjamas. Surely it's too warm for such garments today? Or maybe his mum made him wear it? And there it is, as Smith cuts one down to third man for his 50. Well played, sir.

    Vic Marks, BBC Test Match Special

    "It is looking like a good selection to get Patel in the team, as he has got a couple of deliveries to really turn."

  184. 17 overs: 
    SA 81-0

    It seems England are waiting for South Africa to make a mistake, rather than attacking for a wicket. It's all too easy as four more runs are scored, with Smith closing in on his half-century.


    From Helena in Cambridgeshire, TMS inbox: "I wonder how many international grounds there are that have a stand named after an overseas player?"

    Hampshire recently named their two stands either side of the pavilion after two of their former captains - Colin Ingleby-Mackenzie and Shane Warne

  186. 16 overs: 
    SA 77-0

    England have delayed taking their bowling powerplay, as they attempt to prise apart these two class acts. *Bad gag alert* Perhaps Smith and Amla could get a job working on a farm when their careers finish, as they easily milk England's spin bowlers once more in this over. Four more runs are added to the score, and there is little to get excited about for England.


    From Raihaan, Cape Town, TMS inbox: "The only reason English supporters say winning the Ashes is better than winning the World Cup is because they don't know what it feels like to win a World Cup... Unlike the Aussies, who have four."


    Piers Goodwin via Twitter: "I really haven't got a Handel on all these composer jokes coming in."

  189. 15 overs: 
    SA 73-0

    Smith looks like he has taken something for an headache between overs - perhaps he could offer some of the tablets to Alastair Cook, who must surely be developing a migraine of his own the longer these two stay together. It will take more than a headache to stop Smith though, as he tries a reverse sweep which gets a top edge and drops to safety in the outfield. Patel bowls a tidy over, conceding just three, as the batsmen give him a bit more respect following his big turner in his first over.


    From Dan via text on 81111: "I am taking my dad on his stag do to The Oval on Friday... Debating between dressing him as 80s Botham, Jack Russell or Goochie. Any other ideas? Can't find a WG Grace costume anywhere!"

  191. 14 overs: 
    SA 70-0

    Swann continues to do his thing, but Smith and Amla are playing the percentages and are easily picking up the singles. Chris Woakes is on the pitch as 12th man, as Ravi Bopara nips off.

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "The grass is left on the pitch so that stroke play is not ruined from the very off, but when the laquer and hardness goes from the ball runs become a lot more difficult to get. The pitch gets slower and it becomes a lot more difficult to play those expansive shots. So South Africa are in a really good position with an opening fifty partnership."

  193. 13 overs: 
    SA 65-0

    I'm getting a real sense of deja vu with Smith and Amla batting here. I was doing this very job on the Saturday of the Test match at The Oval, when Smith and Amla batted virtually all day. When Smith was eventually out, I was taking a quick break before returning to watch Amla and Jacques Kallis easily bat through the rest of the day. As Samit Patel is summoned, I begin to wonder if the same will happen again? Amla is in unbelievable nick as he caresses one through the covers for four, but he struggles to keep out a real turner next ball up.

  194. 12 overs: 
    SA 59-0

    Graeme Swann is brought into the England attack. According to his Twitter feed, he was asked if he was former Manchester United footballer Lee Sharpe at a festival this weekend. I'd love to see Swann celebrate his wickets in the same way Sharpe did his goals, that's for sure. It's all looking far too easy for South Africa at the moment, as they take five singles from the over.


    From Andy in Preston via text on 81111: "Does your man Elgar bowl? Perhaps he has an as yet unseen Enigma variation?"

    From Anon via text on 81111: "Strauss? I don't think we should bring him Bach."


    Andy via Twitter: "The Ashes every time. I call T20 'cricket for people who don't know they like cricket - yet'."

    Sam Dumigan via Twitter: "Winning the Ashes still feels like the pinnacle over World Cup glory."

    Darren Anderson via Twitter: "Two different formats of the game so both should have equal priority."

    Get in touch via Twitter on #bbccricket, text on 81111 or by emailing tms@bbc.co.uk (remembering to put 'For Marc Higginson' in the subject line).

  197. 11 overs: 
    SA 54-0

    Bresnan's first over went for 14 runs, and he concedes a single early into his second over - which brings up South Africa's 50 from 62 balls. Smith and Amla are milking Big Tim for singles here, taking another four of them. Certainly an improvement from Bresnan, though.

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "I note that England have one or even two fielders fewer on the leg side for Graeme Smith than they had for the Test match. Such are the problems that his technique and strength on the leg side poses captains."

  199. 10 overs: 
    SA 49-0

    It's another solid start to the over, as Finn bowls four dots to Smith. There's a bit of respect from the South Africa batsman as, after angling one down for a single to third man, he gives Finn a little grudging smile. Amla, facing only his fifth delivery from Finn, takes a single of his own. That's the end of the first powerplay.


    From Paul, Bangkok, TMS inbox: "Re: 1227 - the Chef comes to watch you eat it? That's nice of Cookie to take time out from leading this England side to watch you eat your curry, although possibly a little off-putting. Mind you, I can think of worse cricketers to watch you eat, Gatting for a start."

  201. 9 overs: 
    SA 47-0

    As Smith starts to motor, England turn to their very own big man - Tim Bresnan. The Yorkshireman almost does the trick too, when he forces an edge from Smith but can only grimace as the ball flies through second slip for four. To add salt to the wound, Smith smashes four over Morgan at point. It turns into an expensive over as Amla edges one for four himself, again through the unattended second slip region.


    Richard Parfitt via Twitter: "There's always a single to Patel."

  203. 8 overs: 
    SA 33-0

    Smith hates being tied down, but Finn is doing a good job of frustrating him with three dot balls. However, Finn does have a tendency to bowl the odd 'four ball' and is hit through the leg side for a boundary to relieve the pressure. The big opener scampers two before hitting another boundary from the final ball of the over. All of Finn's hard work at the beginning of the over has been undone.

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "We've already noticed a couple of times that South Africa are just pushing the ball straight to Samit Patel and running."

  205. 7 overs: 
    SA 23-0

    There is a bit of pressure being created as Amla finds the middle and, unfortunately for him, also the fielder. To get around the problem, he gets an inside edge for four off a cracking Anderson delivery. There is nothing fortunate about his next shot, however, as he smashes the next ball over midwicket for another boundary. That has got the run-rate going a bit.


    From Andy, Suffolk, TMS inbox: "Ashes every time! Test cricket is a far better game than one dayers and especially T20, which I call 'cricket for football supporters'."

  207. 6 overs: 
    SA 15-0

    Smith is not one to back down from a fight and he takes a couple of steps down the pitch to Finn and smashes him for four through mid-on. Finn is cranking it up, though, and clocks 91 mph with his next ball. Finn's old problem of hitting the non-striker's stumps in his delivery stride resurfaces, but umpire Simon Taufel does not call 'dead ball'.

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "With two new white balls, sides in one-day cricket have gone away from the pinch hitter. You have to respect the hardness of the new ball in the first six or seven overs, makes sure the seam becomes a little bit softer so that batting becomes easier."

  209. 5 overs: 
    SA 11-0

    Anderson is bowling with nice control, and concedes a couple of singles before Smith and Amla take another quick run to Samit Patel at mid-on - they look like they are targeting the Notts man in the field.


    Stephen Sadler on Twitter: "Kettle of fish [1246] not cruel per se as salmon killed before being put in kettle. Fishing for the salmon considered cruel by some."

    Good knowledge Stephen.

  211. 4 overs: 
    SA 8-0

    It's a gorgeous day in Southampton, as the crowd break out the sun cream. Finn is bowling tremendously well, and causing Smith a few problems. After playing and missing at a couple, Smith is then hit on the pads - but it's not worth a serious lbw appeal. Smith manages to take a run down to deep square leg off the final delivery - I bet he's pleased to get up to the other end, even if it is the end of the over.


    From Jack P, stuck in traffic, via text on 81111: "Lots of grumpy faces in the traffic jam trying to get off the M27, would you mind delaying the start for us?"


    salvatorRosa on Twitter: "The Ashes are *so* last year, if the Aussies pull their socks up, we'll take them more seriously."

  214. 3 overs: 
    SA 7-0

    Anderson is getting into the groove, and manages to get one past the edge of Smith's bat after Amla had taken a single off the first ball of the over. However, the Lancashire bowler strays on to Smith's pad with the next delivery and is clipped for two by the Proteas Test captain. Some good fielding by Ian Bell at square leg saves some more runs, but Smith gets another single down to fine leg.


    From Fenners, Binfield, via text on 81111: "I see Elgar is in for South Africa. Surely we should have responded and played some Strauss!"

  216. 2 overs: 
    SA 3-0

    Steven Finn steams in for the second over, and bowls a wide short one which Smith slashes down to third man for a single. That puts Amla on strike, who struggles to keep out a hostile delivery which nips back and thuds into the batsman's body. Amla steals a single off the final ball of the over. Finn, incidentally, has taken 23 ODI wickets at 15.91 in 2012. The boy can bowl.

  217. 1 over: 
    SA 1-0

    James Anderson takes the new ball, and he is up against a familiar old foe in the formidable shape of Graeme Smith. At the other end is Hashim Amla - somebody else who gave the England bowlers nightmares in the Test series. Smith takes the only single from the over.

    Alec Stewart, BBC Test Match Special

    "It's a good toss to win, because history tells us the pitch takes spin as the game goes on. However, it looks like a good wicket and should be a batter's paradise."

  219. 1259: 

    The England boys are making their way out to the middle, followed by the South African openers. By only fielding five specialist batsmen plus wicketkeeper Kieswetter, it means they have plenty of bowling options. We're almost ready to rock and roll...

  220. 1258: 

    Wow, interesting stuff there from Vic Marks. Where do you guys stand on that? Ashes or World Cup final glory? Let me know via Twitter on #bbccricket, text on 81111 or by emailing tms@bbc.co.uk (remembering to put 'For Marc Higginson' in the subject line).

    Vic Marks, BBC Test Match Special

    "It's always been the notion that England would always rather win the Ashes than win a World Cup, but I think that's changing."

    Mark Butcher, BBC Test Match Special

    "England always talk about 'preparing for the World Cup', go in with a plan and then ditch it at the last minute so I reckon thinking about 2015 at this stage isn't the right thing to do - they need to concentrate on beating South Africa."

  223. 1253: 

    I've got some more good news for you - Test Match Special is under way. You can listen to the live commentary by clicking through the link to the right of this page on the BBC Sport website, or by tuning into BBC 5 live sports extra or BBC Radio 4 Long Wave.

  224. 1249: 

    As promised, here are today's line-ups:

    England: Cook (capt), Bell, Trott, Bopara, Morgan, Kieswetter (wk), Bresnan, Patel, Swann, Finn, Anderson.

    South Africa: Smith, Amla, Elgar, De Villiers (capt & wk), Duminy, Du Plessis, McLaren, Parnell, Petersen, M Morkel, Tsotsobe.

    Umpires: Simon Taufel (Aus) and Rob Bailey (Eng)

    TV umpire: Kumar Dharmasena (SL)

    Match referee: Andy Pycroft (Zim)

  225. 1246: 

    While I'm not sure where the much-used phrase 'different kettle of fish comes from' - it sounds cruel to me - Tim Fitzy is absolutely spot on in his assessment. It is impossible to predict what will happen between two very different-looking teams from the Test series. England have won 10 of their last 10 completed one-day matches while South Africa are in good 50-over form themselves - having won six of their last eight ODIs.

  226. 1242: 

    Tim Fitzy on Twitter: "Time for England to turn it on. Hard Test series, but we lost to the best Test side in the world. Different kettle of fish this."

    Spike Turner on Twitter: "Think we might miss KP's spin bowling today."

  227. 1239: 

    Chris Woakes will be gutted to miss out today, but he can take plenty of heart from the high praise lavished on him by Alec Stewart in his BBC column today. "It might not happen right now, but there is no reason why Woakes can't become a very useful player for England in all formats of the game," said Stewart. "His progress graph is certainly pointing in the right direction and, with his ambition and attitude, he ticks all the right boxes as far as England are concerned."

  228. 1235: 

    England have made one change to their eleven, with Samit Patel coming in to replace Chris Woakes. Both teams expect the pitch to turn, and South Africa have also got plenty of spin options in the shape of JP Duminy, Faf du Plessis and Robin Peterson. I'll get the full line-ups to you shortly.

  229. 1232: 

    South Africa have won the toss and will bat first.

  230. 1231: 

    As ever, we value your interaction. Whether you want to send in your pre-match predictions, debate where this current South African team ranks in the history of the game or talk all things England cricket, you can tweet us via #bbccricket, text us on 81111 or email tms@bbc.co.uk - making sure to put 'For Marc Higginson' in the subject line. Unfortunately, we have closed all forms of communication with carrier pigeons for today - but I'm sure you can get it all off your chest via the other three lines that are open.

  231. 1227: 

    So what is in store for us today? England need a victory to remain number one in the ODI rankings, with South Africa knowing a win for them will make them the best-ranked team in the world in all three formats. This one could have more spice than the vindaloo in my local curry house - the chef comes and watches you while you eat it!

  232. 1225: 

    Good afternoon everybody, and welcome to coverage of the second one-day international between England and South Africa in Southampton. The first game was ruined by rain but in the 33 balls that were possible it was clear to see that Ian Bell is ready to take the attack to the tourists. He smashed an unbeaten 26 from just 18 balls - and left Morne Morkel running for cover when the rain came.

  233. 1220: 

    KP might not be sure if he wants to play in it, but what is there not to like about one-day international cricket while England are number one in the rankings? Following a 4-0 hammering of Australia earlier in the summer, South Africa are the next challengers to Alastair Cook's rampant side - surely they can't leave these shores next month with England's number one ranking in two forms of the game?

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Live Scores - England v S Africa


  • South Africa beat England by 80 runs
  • England: 207 (40.4 overs)
  • S Africa: 287-5 (50.0 overs)
  • Venue: Southampton

England Innings

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Cook b Tsotsobe 0
Bell b Peterson 45
Trott c Elgar b M Morkel 23
Bopara c Du Plessis b Peterson 16
Morgan c Elgar b Duminy 27
Kieswetter c Smith b Elgar 20
Patel c de Villiers b M Morkel 45
Bresnan c de Villiers b Parnell 0
Swann c de Villiers b Parnell 0
Anderson run out (Peterson) 5
Finn not out 15
Extras 1w 3b 7lb 11
Total all out 207