Gift from the Sea
Posted: Saturday, 22 September 2007 |
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""IF"" is a very big word
carol from over here
It's the things one can do with the money that can bring happiness, not money per se. Its usually people who have none who insist it's not contributory to happiness. Who loves to be poor?
Flying Cat from just asking like...
Money does not make happiness ... a truth that we know but few acknowledge. I sold up a lifetime and crossed the Tasman with a few plastic containers ... and what I gave away I never think about ... possessions [except a good book or three] are truly immaterial. In fact material possessions can hold one back from discovering their true self.
Plaid from transplanted over the ocean
It was Janis Joplin who shouted "Freedom is having nothing left to lose," which is rather sad.# And another wag said that those who claim money cannot buy happiness have never met a black lab puppy # Money does not guarantee happiness, but I can assure you that poverty is not pleasant, and abject poverty is downright miserable. # Paradise lost and all that: whoever said that living, or earning a living, was meant to be easy? The whole question is one of balance, and where the balance is depends often on the luck of the draw (ask the Sultan of Dubai or Qatar, ask the illegal migrant who just waddled across the Rio Grande, ask FC or me ...). # As to Plaid, I don't know whether finding one's "true self" is such a great enterprise. This rejection of material possessions (which the rejector often does not have in abundance anyway) is often justified by the claim that possessions prevent one from finding happiness, the true self. There is often an accompanying and cloying self centeredness to this rejection which I find somehow embarassing if not downright perverse # Personally, I could use a few billions and I would find oodles of satisfaction using them in the spirit Bill Gates and Warren Buffet (to name the familiar philanthropists) are using theirs.
mjc from NM, USA
It was Janis Joplin who shouted "Freedom is having nothing left to lose," which is rather sad.# And another wag said that those who claim money cannot buy happiness have never met a black lab puppy # Money does not guarantee happiness, but I can assure you that poverty is not pleasant, and abject poverty is downright miserable. # Paradise lost and all that: whoever said that living, or earning a living, was meant to be easy? The whole question is one of balance, and where the balance is depends often on the luck of the draw (ask the Sultan of Dubai or Qatar, ask the illegal migrant who just waddled across the Rio Grande, ask FC or me ...). # As to Plaid, I don't know whether finding one's "true self" is such a great enterprise. This rejection of material possessions (which the rejector often does not have in abundance anyway) is often justified by the claim that possessions prevent one from finding happiness, the true self. There is often an accompanying and cloying self centeredness to this rejection which I find somehow embarassing if not downright perverse # Personally, I could use a few billions and I would find oodles of satisfaction using them in the spirit Bill Gates and Warren Buffet (to name the familiar philanthropists) are using theirs.
mjc from NM, USA
It never rains, it pours.
mjc from NM, USA
Janis said no such thang. She sang words written by Kris Kristofferson---"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." Line one, verse two even in New Mexico. New Mexico revisionism must die!
TiredFather from Sebastopol Lyric Werks
oof!!
carol from over here
Wouldn't it be nice...I'd buy a new liffboat for the RNLI - on condition it was named 'FlyingCat&Marmers'...a cat can dream...
Flying Cat from harpooning a bandana
You are right, TiredFather. My memory is not what it used to be. Too much sun ...
mjc from NM, USA
Releasing the Cows (Told by Master Thich Nhat Hanh) One day the Buddha was sitting in the wood with thirty or forty monks. They had an excellent lunch and they were enjoying the company of each other. There was a farmer passing by and the farmer was very unhappy. He asked the Buddha and the monks whether they had seen his cows passing by. The Buddha said they had not seen any cows passing by. The farmer said, "Monks, I'm so unhappy. I have twelve cows and I don't know why they all ran away. I have also a few acres of a sesame seed plantation and the insects have eaten up everything. I suffer so much I think I am going to kill myself. The Buddha said, "My friend, we have not seen any cows passing by here. You might like to look for them in the other direction." So the farmer thanked him and ran away, and the Buddha turned to his monks and said, "My dear friends, you are the happiest people in the world. You don't have any cows to lose. If you have too many cows to take care of, you will be very busy. "That is why, in order to be happy, you have to learn the art of cow releasing (laughter). You release the cows one by one. In the beginning you thought that those cows were essential to your happiness, and you tried to get more and more cows. But now you realize that cows are not really conditions for your happiness; they constitute an obstacle for your happiness. That is why you are determined to release your cows." "Buddhism Study and Practice Group" [http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/clubs/buddhism/story/index.html]
Donna from finally home in Shetland
I hope Moo is reading this... Don't the monks rely on others to fill their bowls with food, so someone must suffer from an excess of cows on their behalf, in order to be able to afford it? (Four trailer-loads of 25 years of junk from attic to dump just had the same happy effect as cow-letting-go here at Rolling Acres...)
Flying Cat from watching the milkers accross the road
Good to know you have cleared out the attic, FC. I thought you were keeping the stuff believing it might be providing insulation. # As to Moo, neither she nor Erland is letting go of the cows or Prince Chan. Shucks, the head monk might next suggest the departure of Moo's sheep. # FC's point about the monks depending on others is well taken. # Donna's lesson is also on the mark. Not much different really from the remark in the Gospels about the birds who don't rely on granaries (squirrels and chipmunks accumulate, of course).# What Donna and others do forget is that: no surplus means no developed culture, no advanced learning. No surplus: no research, no mri, no latest cancer medicines etc. Someone has to produce that surplus. Saffron robes, black or white robes, all have requirements: if they don't provide for themselves, then it becomes the responsibility of others. The simple life is fine, but who is paying for the root canals, the services of the orthondist, spaying the cats? # Yet, Donna's point is well taken. But again, it all comes down to balance, moderation.
mjc from NM, USA
The Greeks ha words for it,"Moderation in all things," written on the walls at the Delphic Oracle. Where there were scores of priestesses variuos treasuries and other displays of conspicuous consumption. Have you noticed that even to this day greek orthodox clergy always appear well fed?
Hyper-Borean from The Oracle
I was really admiring mjc's awfully well-written comment until he gratuitously threw in cat-you-know-whatting...probably just when he thought a cat's attention span was wearing thn. Hah!
Flying Cat from legsXed
MJC - good comment. Moderation! This idea is expressed as the 'Middle Way' in the Pali Canon scriptures. "Monks, these two extremes ought not to be practiced by one who has gone forth from the household life. (What are the two?) There is addiction to indulgence of sense-pleasures, which is low, coarse, the way of ordinary people, unworthy, and unprofitable; and there is addiction to self-mortification, which is painful, unworthy, and unprofitable. Avoiding both these extremes, the Tathagata (the Perfect One) has realized the Middle Path; it gives vision, gives knowledge, and leads to calm, to insight, to enlightenment and to Nibbana." Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta of the Pali Canon (mouthfull...) is available translated online. [http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn56/sn56.011.piya.html]
Donna from Finally home in Shetland
Oops just been getting my fingers transposed again.
Hyper-Borean from The Oralce
Hyper-B. - no need to get so exercised, simply because the Greeks have priestesses and the Church you and I were confirmed in don't. As to the rotundness of the Greek Orthodox clergy, our clergy (the male dominated Catholic Church) does not seem to be suffering from inanition either. Come on, Hyper-B., let's give the full bearded and wel- fed Greek Orthodox clergy a break (so long as they stay on Mount Athos, eh?!).
mjc from NM, USA
Not so exercised about the philosophy mjc, i do believe that "Moderation in all things," is wisdom. My problem is with us humans who, in the main, seem unwilling or unable to pratice those philosophies. I might preach moderation but I often fail to practice it for instance; and some of my immoderation is directed towards those who take over philosophies and profit, often inordinately, thereby. The Delphic temple complex was hugely rich which, to me, belies the call for moderation. My dig at the greek clergy was simply to illustrate continuity. I could as easily have picked any number of other religions, sects or cults.
Hyper-Borean from The Pierian Spring
Hyper-Borean -- good point. It is easy to talk about these philosophies, but a challange to follow them.
Donna from Shetland
no one even bothered to mention how beautiful the painting is! good work donna! post more paintings!
Trooker from wastside
If I'd known it was a painting I would have sid "very fine indeed", but, in this digital age, I thought it was a Photoshopped photo...Which, I hasten to add, doesn't make it any less attractive...bl**dy h*ll this is a minefield...
Flying Cat from not doctoring my photos...much...
Someone blogged about this blog, and the subsequent comments... I'm chuffed! http://www.laplandica.com/2007/10/07/having-visited-shetland%E2%80%A6/#comment-43
donna from shetland .. finally home
the best is how laplandica destroys the cat's comments --- ha! no one ever has blogged about --my-- weblog.
trooker from wastside
Is it worth a visit?
Flying Cat from curiosity cott
It once housed a whelk, a snail-like creature, and then temporarily, after the death of the first occupant, a little hermit crab, who has run away, leaving his tracks behind him like a delicate vine on the sand. He ran away, and left me his shell. It was once a protection to him. I turn the shell in my hand, gazing into the wide open door from which he made his exit. Had it become an encumbrance? Why did he run away? Did he hope to find a better home, a better mode of living?"
I live like a hermit in an island paradise, planning my survival of the impending apocalypse.
My mother is a Sheltie and my father is American. As a dual-citizen, I have lived between both cultures. I only use my UK passport these days. I made the Atlandic leap, back to Shetland. This is the only place I ever considered 'home.'