Bambi
WHAT??!! Don't tell me I have come back ready to switch my brain on and start thinking when it has finished and that's the end of Lost Penny. Has it finished and I have done basically nothing to help? Sorry Donna, I have been pretty useless. haha
Sun Apr 19 13:35:26 2009

Bambi
I'm back at last. I'm so sorry Donna that I Couldn't catch up and help as I have been very busy. I will do my best and try to get back on track. WE CAN SOLVE THIS MYSTERY!
Sun Apr 19 13:25:10 2009

goldie leona hay(es)
I live in Florida, USA, and I would like you to be available in my area! why aren't you! tell somebody to make you available to us. thank you.
Sat Feb 28 18:20:31 2009

AngelA
Long time since I've had anything to add,but have been following the events.A book which is horribly thought provoking of people with a power over the minds of others is "Carrion Comfort" by Dan Simmons...not for the faint hearted !
Tue Feb 24 22:00:30 2009

Sandra
So should we be looking at Scotlands History to see any other similarities to the mystery of the Stone of Destiny?
Fri Feb 20 20:33:09 2009

Message from Simone
Okay, we know Donna has travelled to Penny's world to halt the transitions of travellers from her world to ours! My goodness, she must be feeling the weight of the 'worlds' on her shoulders now huh?! hehe Seriously though, I know Donna couldn't have reached her destination if it hadn't been for all your help so on behalf of Donna Dunbar - thank you. But... just because a little incident such as Donna travelling to another world to meld with her parallel self to fight against evil in order to protect our history from the interfering parallel travellers (and breathe!) doesn't mean we have to get off the bus just yet :) If you'd like to share your thoughts on the development of Donna's story. Please get in touch. Remember, you never know where the road will end or just how significant your role will be in the future of Lost Penny. ;) S. x
Wed Feb 18 17:13:50 2009

Lyle
I saw this UFO yesterday night too! I was visiting a friend in Perth and saw the mysterious light from the car. It moved around the sky so fast. At one point it shot down close to the ground like an electrical discharge.
Wed Feb 11 19:43:59 2009

tony
Is this really the end? No , I didnt try to mislead you. I was genuinely trying to help you look for something tangible... I took my grandchildren up Moncrieff Hill. Young Ben threw a stone at his sister. Was that Destiny? Bye Bye Donna
Wed Feb 11 18:55:31 2009

Message from Simone
I got a text from Donna late afternoon yesterday telling me to go to Moncrieff Hill to collect the camera. I posted the film asap and when I got home I discovered an email from her. I thought you should all see it. This is what it said: By the time you read this Simone I'll have travelled with Penny through to her world. After a successful transition it's our plan to meld together as quickly as possible. Penny is undertaking this course of action in the full knowledge that her personality will not survive. It will be for me to use her life energy - our combined power to halt the transitions of travellers from her world to ours. It's a heartbreaking sacrifice but we're convinced it's necessary. Maybe one day I'll be able to return to my "tedious flux of time". Until then keep your wits about you and work together to identify and expose these travellers. Watch for anyone who through their actions and deceit is careless of the chaos they bring to our today. Search our yesterdays for evidence of their past interference. It's important you expose as many of the stains that they've left behind as you can. All of this, and the action I'll take, will start the fight to protect our future. Keep strong. Keep free. Keep organised. Lol Donna Dunbar.
Wed Feb 11 13:22:36 2009

Reply from Donna
Thanks for all the help Sandra. Stars are history. Hey David - my friend thought she saw you in Edinburgh? Were you there? Thanks Eve - I hadn't noticed that! I'll speak to Neil and get back to you.
Mon Feb 9 10:31:46 2009

Sandra
Mmmmwha ha ha ha ha Claire!!!!! Gotcha!!!!! Am surprosed though that she still has some gold stars!!! She should be stripped of them!!!
Fri Feb 6 22:41:14 2009

Eve
Hi Donna- I've been following this for a while now, it's getting really exciting! ...I've got a feeling that you should be careful with Neil - if his last name is Scott, ask him why he posted Claire's video ("Ttocsclien")!
Fri Feb 6 19:25:16 2009

News from Donna
Just a bit of housekeeping! I have to let you know that Claire has been thrown out of Lost Penny. On Tuesday evening David and Sandra alerted me to the news that Claire had released an off site video asking the membership of Lost Penny to stop using the Lost Penny email for reasons of security and to use a new email address - donnadunbar@hotmail - instead. Pretending to be me Claire then used this new account and pumped friends of Lost Penny for information about the picture and the handbook. I think she must have taken this 'wild' action because I'd recently password protected the Lost Penny email account. I'd also kept secret the news that David had discovered a picture called Freedom by Vivant Denon for sale on eBay. (Make a bid for Freedom!) On Wednesday night I managed to outbid another buyer (maybe Claire or someone else from the FOF) and bought the picture. I then worked out a plan with David and Sandra to use the hotmail account and set a trap for Claire. By email Donna was offered a meeting in Edinburgh where the picture would be handed over to her. Claire, still posing as me, agreed to the arrangement but said she would send a 'trusted friend' to pick it up. I was shocked to see who turned up. But Neil claims that Claire asked him to collect the picture and she told him that I knew all about the arrangement. I'm quite sure that Neil is telling the truth and was as much a victim as I was meant to be. The real picture is safe and should be with me tonight. Thanks to all of you for your help behind the scenes but thanks particularly to those friends that helped me set this trap. We got her!
Fri Feb 6 14:35:38 2009

Reply from Donna
Apologies Pinky but it's getting harder and harder for me to trust anyone right now. The really exciting news is that with the help of David and Sandra we've found where the handbook is hidden. If all goes well I should have it secured by 10.00pm tonight and have it in my hands in a couple of days. Can't say how as I don't want the FOF to get in on the act. The end is near now.
Tue Feb 3 11:15:49 2009

Pinky
Donna I just want to reassure you I have no connection to Tony, FOF or anything else. Just the clues on the video made me think of Braveheart and the fact that the Bridge is not in the film even at the battle.
Tue Feb 3 07:56:55 2009

David
What a wonderful thing the internet is googled Bryan Beattie again and found his company. I read that his wife Emer manages a group called Cliar (think it means 'Learn') a Gaelic 'supergroup'. They use music to communicate highland oral history! Now thinking out of the box here if we think the FOF have got to Beattie, have they got to her? If they haven't then can she help us? Maybe we can work together to help get her husband back. Also I found out that Beattie worked with the Eden Court Theatre in Inverness. Maybe he put the picture there for safe keeping? As for Vivant Denon, he had an interesting life but nothing regarding FOF at the moment. I'm still trying to get my head around twins merging with Napoleon and Hitler. The thing is I've always thought that they were ordinary people with great power that just over reached themselves, causing them in the end to lose. But now, maybe not! Still supporting you Donna! As for you Tony: TELL US WHERE THE FOF HANDBOOK IS!
Mon Feb 2 10:58:35 2009

Sandra
Do you really think that members of the FOF are posting on the wonderboard? I looked back at Tony's postings and some of them do point/push towards the wrong things! I also looked again at the Beattie videos, does anyone know what map is on the wall?
Mon Feb 2 10:41:26 2009

Reply from Donna
Thanks Sandra. I know you had a busy weekend so appreciate the time and effort. Also I think you're on to it. The picture that disappeared from behind Beattie! That's what we have to find -but where would he hide a picture? Amongst other pictures? A gallery? Hi David - you linked Vivant Denon to the Louvre in Paris. Could that be it? I'm not sure how would Beattie get his picture in there. Also how would we get it out? We're close to something here! We've got to move fast and I think that if anyone manages to crack it then please use the email link:lostpenny@bbc.co.uk. That comes direct to me and I've password protected the inbox. Tony might not be the only FOF agent snooping around. I've a concern about one of the team at the BBC. Keep safe and let's make that bid for freedom!
Sun Feb 1 10:31:44 2009

For Tony from Donna Dunbar.
Tony, I'm kicking myself. Looking back through your messages it's so obvious what's happened here. From the start you've been antagonistic towards Beattie. You're clearly trying to steer me away from contact with what he knows - just the sort of behaviour that one would expect from a member of the FOF. On the 13 December you complained of 'another Tony' trying to take your place on the site and steal your credit - was that when the switch took place? Is that when the FOF decided they needed to boost your powers and melded you with a traveller? (Very subtle touch with your email address by the way traveller!) Then there were all the complaints about the technical problems you were having watching our videos? They all started as Beattie got in contact with me. That was just to run us down wasn't it? To waste our time and undermine people's confidence in the Lost Penny site. All your help with the clues sounded so plausible but now that I look again they always tried to push us on to the wrong track. Just like your latest push towards Stirling Bridge. So is Pinkie you or is Pinkie another FOF agent? Your two most recent messages have been trying to push me and my friends away from finding the handbook and you've continued to blow off the FOF as unimportant. You don't like it when I talk about other worlds do you? Your tone betrays the panic of an organisation that knows its days are numbered. You're right Tony. Penny and I will destroy Les Fils d'Ossian Fraternite - we are on to you Tony.
Sun Feb 1 10:18:57 2009

Sandra
Right! Here's some of my ideas about the handbook clue. It was time for all good men and women to make their bid for freedom" Dunno why but it makes me think of the Declaration of Arbroath. But I don't remember mentioning or discussing this before so I don't think that's it. With regards to "and to try to see the whole picture and see what is missing" I can only think about the Beattie video where the picture of someone resembling Donna disappeared from his wall. Should we find this picture, is the handbook hidden in the back of it? I've looked back at the video and also wonder if the other pictures are significant are they some of the paintings commissioned by Napoleon dipicting scenes from the Ossian poems? A final thought I've had about the "and to try to see the whole picture and see what is missing" clue is have we to watch the Stone of Destiny film and find out which parts of the story are missing? Will there be further clues in the film?? I for one don't really want to see the film as I've heard some bad reviews of it. Anyway brain hurts am away to rest it!!
Sat Jan 31 20:28:21 2009

tony
Donna , stick to dancing or your other universe... not both. I really cant see any point in all the video clips. They say nothing in a convoluted way. Even if the so called handbook is found and supposing FoF is eventually explained, so what? Once again , I ask: is there any point/goal in being involved further? Shall follow the quest but may not participate. (Do you remember that you asked- was it two months ago or in a former life- if anyone knew who Beattie was? I recognised him and warned you off him then. You should have listened.
Sat Jan 31 18:37:36 2009

david
Dominique Vivant, Baron de Denon looked him up turns out he was in charge of the "Museum Napoleon" which turned into the Louvre. Da Vinci code here we come.
Fri Jan 30 23:28:55 2009

Reply from Donna
Hi Pinky and Tony, thanks for the Stirling Bridge suggestion. It's really clever thinking but I'm just not convinced. If Beattie is trying to tell us where the handbook is hidden wouldn't his clue take us to a specific spot - like the grave stone in Stirling? Or to a specific event? His clue on the 3rd of Dec' played on words - on the way we interpreted his message. So that's what we need to do with his latest clue. "It was time for all good men and women to make a bid for freedom. And to try to see the whole picture and see what is missing" What's interesting is that Penny told me that she'd heard from the old guy that the FOF were interested in something Sandra had picked up on. I've warned Sandra about this and she's trying to think what it is they think she knows or said! David thanks for your support - thanks to all of you that've been willing to keep an open mind.
Fri Jan 30 11:28:21 2009

David
Now that I've had the brain dump a few days ago I can now think. Watching the clips and being a guy who has an open mind I want to make a point. Why can't it all be true? If Penny comes from a paralell world she will have learned a diffrent history. Maybe, in her world, Edward does not take the stone? Does Bruce win? In her world maybe Gaelic is the common language and Scotland is independent. FOF HANDBOOK SORRY NOTHING AT THE MOMENT. I do belive in some of the ideas Donna has talked about and given us. For instance I can not believe that we are alone in this universe. Why can't there be other earths? I do believe that your time here is only a short part of your journey and that you come back again and again. BY THE WAY I HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN OVER BY MY OTHER HALF EVEN THOUGH I LIVE NEAR BONNYBRIDGE LOL
Fri Jan 30 10:57:20 2009

Sandra
Not forgot about you Donna, tried looking over clues last night but need to spend more time at it, will try again on Saturday. Such a busy week for me Celtic Connections at the start of the week a CoS induction tonight, family do & 2 parties this weekend - just dunno when I'll find the time to consider parallel universes that may or may not still have Elvis alive in them!!! lol
Fri Jan 30 00:43:29 2009

David
Where to begin? I have been involved with this quest from the beginning - helping Donna. We started looking at Scottish history and now we're going down a different road. I have enjoyed playing this quest and the real feeling of the quest and how addictive it can be. Now where? As it says in my profile I'm an internet surfer and I'm going to go through what I've found in this big wide internet world. Ossian and James Macpherson are fakes. The works of Ossian are fake, made up by James Macpherson. Napoleon did not have a twin! You've found Penny. What is it that she wants you to do? Why can't she do it on her own? Who is the old guy? Did she tell you about him and is he helping her? Where is Beattie? Does Penny know? Can we get the fiddle music that he wrote for his daughter? It might have a clue in it? FOF - What does it stand for? This may help us. Ask Claire. Claire - is she still in hiding? Can not find FOF hand book anywhere! The works of Ossian are the only things that come through when I search in the Google book site. Parallel universes - do I believe in this? From what I've read it does go along the same lines as Spiritualism and I've read many books on that. But energy sources, atoms moving around, other universes? I don’t know enough to make a comment. In Europe they have a big machine with atoms spinning around trying to create a big bang effect. Why? So they can prove it happened. Many things that are true in this world can not be proven – yet. So why do we mock Donna? Question -why are you and Penny to join? Why? No offence Donna but is it because you are the creative one and Penny got the brains?! Did not mean that to sound like it does but Penny's clues were hard if you know what I mean. I don't believe Napoleon joined with his other side/twin. Neither did Hitler. But it could be proven through the parallel world's theory. Look at Red Dwarf and Doctor Who. They have dealt with this issue. As for the statement by Noreen I can't find anything as yet. This message started positive but ended up as a brain dump. Still feel the clues are there. What we all need to do is pull it all together. Donna you need to get back in contact with Penny. She needs to help us finish this. Sorry this message is so long but it has been over a week since I wrote something. By the way “Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for breakfast!
Tue Jan 27 22:00:50 2009

tony
Bid for Freedom, as suggested sounds like Wallace. Big Picture, not that highly inaccurate Braveheart surely? Is there a pic of the Battle of Stirling Bridge anywhere or Battle of Falkirk.... result won1 , lost 1...
Tue Jan 27 20:17:20 2009

pinky
You might want to have a look at Stirling Bridge. The clue says make a bid for freedom - William Wallace talked of freedom. It then says look at the whole picture and what is missing - what is missing from Braveheart? - A bridge at the Battle of Stirling Bridge. Just a thought.
Tue Jan 27 07:43:59 2009

Sarah
heyy sorry i havent posted in a while as i've like been really stresed. but i think the handbook may be in a german art gallery or like a napolian gallery or something.
Mon Jan 26 16:39:13 2009

Ian
looks like the hurtful fools of the internet have also spilled onto the bbc website its a bit of exitement and fun lyle dont watch it if you dont want to
Sun Jan 25 23:13:43 2009

Sandra
So "Donna" where's "Penny" now? How did she get into your parrallel world? Why did she want you to know all this?Final question for the now, who says that's Donna that's back could it be Penny pretending to be Donna??????This whole thing is weird and so far removed from the Scotland's History series and the Stone of Destiny that I don't know what's what.
Sun Jan 25 19:11:36 2009

tony
sorry Donna, but this is getting ridiculous. OK looking for Scottish historical places but I cant see any point in this storyline. You found Penny... we gave you clues. Now you havent any goal.. so why should we/I log on again.
Sun Jan 25 17:59:40 2009

Susanna-Ruth
hey!!i dont believe in all that atom stuff but i was thinking that the handbook could be in germany or a meuseum about germany or the war. I think donna said something about hitler having the handbook. He lived in germany!!!
Sun Jan 25 16:19:49 2009

sophie
ok donna - i've been away a while so i'm a bit lost on the handbook thing can you sum up what we've to do? i do think you're talking nonsense but on the other hand i badly want to believe in heaven and how can you explain that scientifically? you'd have to believe that it is possible to be outside of time. maybe other dimensions aren't totally out of the question for me. but mainly i agree with jen this is sounding bonkers. that said science fiction is always loosely based on science fact - do you know any scientists you could talk to? Also - can you tell us what you've been asked to do? Sophxxps i don't think donna's body language looked like she was ill - she looked like she was pretty weirded out is all?
Sun Jan 25 15:47:42 2009

Jen
Seriously! what the ... is an infinite universe?Atoms resonating? Surely if you are Penny i.e your atoms buzz off and become Penny then when you meet up all the atoms are naturally drawn back together and you're actually talking to yourself, Sophie's right you need to speak to a mental health practitioner fast and at the very least it must be time to change your scriptwriter sweetie.Im finding it really hard to believe that this is for grownups!
Sun Jan 25 08:56:46 2009

sophie
whaaaaaatt???!!! our personal atoms are sometimes missing? don't think we covered this in higher chemistry - donna i'm not sure scientists really think that do they? wouldn't they have said something before now? you're a lovely girl and you deserve to have some answers - but real one's. get penny to meet a shrink with you - if she's telling the truth she has nothing to fear. and if she is winding you up you will be able to get some closure. have you read 'the time travellers wife? ' take care donna, i'm pretty worried about you now.
Sat Jan 24 21:15:06 2009

Lyle
Is there any chance that the CCTV footage is a fake put up by Donna just to keep her centre stage? Is anybody else out there thinking that this whole search for a sister routine is one big fat lie strung together to launch an acting career for a certain young dancer?
Wed Jan 21 15:36:09 2009

baaeerum
I've pulled some CCTV footage from a security camera watching the Waverley paddle steamer. Don't ask how. I think you should put it up on your site asap. Penny (maybe?)is seen arriving at 2.48pm with a man. Could that be the old guy that started this whole thing? Wil's sketch looks like a match to me. I've tried to move in on the picture a bit. Anyhow, the man leaves after a short while. The CCTV footage is edited to show some close ups and there are a couple of edit jumps as Penny waits to take us to 3.02 when Donna arrives. The meeting between Donna and Penny is captured. What's strange is that there is some kind of technical interference to the picture as the girls meet. The meeting is very brief and Donna moves away from Penny without any embrace taking place. Penny follows after Donna.i think I've fallen for you Donna so please come back safe - from the heart!
Tue Jan 20 11:36:14 2009

David
Been looking at Ossian and Napoleon for weeks now and I've come across a lot of web sites. Don't like the brotherhood of Ossian that has links to a society in Canada and America in the 1800’s that spoke regarding freedom of Ireland that some people think the IRA came from. L left that one. The FOF Hand Book is THE STORY OF OSSIAN - FIND IT IN GOOGLE BOOK SEARCH this is the only thing you find regarding Napoleon and Ossian. He even got a play written regarding Ossian. As for Napoleon’s twin - can not find anything regarding twin brother but I have found a connection to Napoleon’s brothers and the Masons. It is believed that Napoleon’s brother started a Masonic chapter and that Napoleon himself joined it. This has been going through a lot of web sites. Start of by typing in Ossian and Napoleon and see were it can lead us.
Mon Jan 19 13:37:48 2009

sophie
donna i wish you would get in touch with your friends - it all sounds a bit weird to me. are you ok? what is happening? be careful. i dreamt you met penny and she was an alien. i can't believe i just wrote that. . . anyway i looked at all the photos and i can't see david's ghost in the background. am i looking at hte right one - david internet searcher? definitely can't see a ghost. that's me though - altogether more scully than mulder. i did think that hannu and will are gorgeous but i'll stop now as i'm lowering the tone of the game . . .
Mon Jan 19 10:56:35 2009

Sandra
Well at least you know that little Ewan is not alone as do I no longer feel alone on this site now that you've replied!!! lolWatched the hypnosis tape and am still none the wiser about how to find Donna, Penny or the Handbook.Did find out that Fingal in the Ossian poems was refered to as "white stranger" - mentioned by Donna in the video.Cant find anything about Napolean's twin. What was the name that Donna mentioned about the person who masterminded the "clandestine" meeting between Napolean and his "twin"? Stumped stumped stumped!!!
Sun Jan 18 21:45:31 2009

David
Finnally someone has aked me its a ghost this is a picture of me and my son Ewan .Have been told that its a old solder one of Ewans Spirt guides if you look at the big picture in the my friends stuff part of the web site you will see on the right hand side a faint image of a solder floating just behind us look for his white cuffs and sword and dress uniform some can see it some cant lets see who can
Sat Jan 17 18:16:27 2009

Sandra
This is a mesage for Donna' friend David, what is in the background of your profile picture?
Fri Jan 16 17:05:25 2009

Reply from Richard
Thanks for the update Sandra. I'm still worried though. I've made contact with the hypnotist Noreen but all she would tell me is that she gave Donna an edited tape of the session. She wouldn't tell me any details of the session as they are confidential. Neil and Simone are going to go to Donna's place and see what they can find - Simone has keys. Keep in touch and keep looking for clues about the Handbook.
Fri Jan 16 10:15:52 2009

Sandra
Me again!! I've sent a text to Donna and got a reply of, " Been talking for hours with Penny and forgot I had the mobile. Let Richard know Im safe. Thanks for thinking of me but I have to switch off now. Find the Handbook check the tapes from Noreen. D"How are we to find the Handbook? How do we get the tapes from Noreen?? Noreen if your reading this can you please post the videos of Donna's hypnosis. Beattie if you have a FOF Handbook or know where we can find one please get in touch. Otherwise I'm at a loss. Just dunno how to find out what we need to know to help Donna, even although her text says she's been talking for hours with Penny, I'm just not sure. What if it's not Donna who's sent the text? I did send another one asking this but so far nothing.Am going to look AGAIN at the clues to see if anything jumps out.
Thu Jan 15 23:04:30 2009

Sandra
I KNEW IT WASN'T A GOOD IDEA!!!!!Looking back at clues and noticed this above the Press and Journal ad for the Ossian papers "Reward for safe return any information please tel: ********* Aberdeen.(Hi Sandra - Richard here. I've taken the phone number out of your message. It turned out to be a dead end. But thanks for the idea even though it did turn out to be a straw!) Can't see the top of the ad so dunno what is missing or if I'm clutching at straws to relate it to Donna being missing now.OH! Just had a thought, what if Donna is going to turn up somewhere the Stone of Destiny ended up? Hope your okay where ever you are Donna
Thu Jan 15 22:00:29 2009

tony
I bet it isnt that simple... you turning up at Waverley Steamer and 'thats all folks'. Gut reaction still says Holyrood- near the other Waverley (station).Just in case this isnt the answer bear in mind that Waverly is also a novel by Walter Scott and he has a monument on Princes St.
Wed Jan 14 22:57:39 2009

Sandra
Donna dont tell me that you've gone off and met "Penny" on yer own? What about the FOF handbook? What about Beattie? Hope your okay and that everything with "Penny" has gone well.x
Wed Jan 14 20:43:55 2009

lauren
I have just joined what is this all about?xxxxxx lauren
Tue Jan 13 17:46:34 2009

Sandra
"Ahm lo'ast!!!"Dunno whats going on anymore but did a google booksearch for FOF handbook and it brought up a book produced by Facts on Filedo do do do dooooooo!!!! spooky tune!!
Tue Jan 13 00:35:31 2009

David
As for a FOF Handbook can not find anything regarding this but do know that Napoleon carried the works of Ossian into battle this can be found on Google Book search. Good read.
Sun Jan 11 15:50:06 2009

David
Calum Colvin Just read about this guy maybe able to help you Calum is an artist who has studied Ossian. I’ve been reading reviews on him and his work seems to be on the same line as you check him out Donna plus he got a grant from the Scottish Arts Council did Beattie not have something to do with that?
Sun Jan 11 15:47:06 2009

Donna
David you raise a good point. Here's my take on it. Penny is trying to test me - she is trying to prepare or teach/show me something. David Clarke thinks it might be something to do with historical fakes. So maybe Penny is working for the FOF? I don't know if she's doing this of her own free will or if she's being forced to work for them. What I don't like about the FOF is that they seem to think that I'm part of their agenda. What their agenda is I'm not sure but they appear to be watching over me until it's completed - "until the two become one". Beattie, to start with at least, thinks I'm in danger and he wants me to stop looking for Penny. He says that I should stay on my 'line' and not chase after Penny. He goes to great effort to get some research papers to us about Napoleon having a twin and a whole lot of weird stuff about the aims of the FOF. From my speed read of his research all I remember is stuff about how the Ossian poem written by James Macpherson inspired Napoleon in his attempt to dominate the world. And that Napoloen had a twin! Is any of that true? Claire is right - there was mention of a FOF handbook that Beattie had found. Then Beattie claimed it was all a joke! But what if it wasn't a joke and that the FOF had got to him and made him say that? Or maybe Claire is right and something very strange is going on - the UFO sightings could be tied in and it is odd that there is so much UFO activity being reported in the news just now. Right now we have very little to go on. I've had nothing from Penny or the FOF. Claire is still in hiding but at least she's in contact with me now. So how do we play this? I've been in touch with Beattie but heard nothing from him. I'm going to try and open up my memory with some hypnosis this week. Sandra noticed on the 11th December film from joker Beattie that the picture on the back wall of his room and to his left had gone. Could that be significant? Was the warning Beattie trying to tell us something? I can only hope that Penny will get in touch soon. And Richard if Penny did want me to contact her I think I would go regardless of the danger. I just want it too much and I need to understand why she's been playing with me like this.
Fri Jan 9 16:32:03 2009

David
Big brain Dump can someone help me here are we dealing with two sets of Clues let me explain Penny Dunadd-Scone-Bonnybridge-Rhynie .FOF/Beattie- Ossian-James Mc Pherson where do the two tie up or do they. Is FOF Trying to put us of the trail IF SO WHY THE DVD AT THE BEGINING.Is Beattie part of the FOF Need help James macPherson Death poam can not find it Why does Clair want us to look into Ossian when it has been proven that this is another hoax.Why is penny showing or leading you to False Stones where do we go now
Fri Jan 9 14:06:45 2009

Richard
If it turns out that Penny is your doppleganger, Donna, it might be worth getting one of your friends to meet her if the chance arises. My mother has a doppleganger who lives in the same area as her, she knows people who've seen the doppleganger (myself included) but whenever the chance for pointing out the doppleganger to my mum arises, the doppleganger seems to disappear.
Thu Jan 8 20:36:44 2009

Reply from Donna
Thank you David. You're right. It is all starting to make some kind of horrible insane sense to me. I don't dare tell you what I'm starting to think! I sound like Beattie don't I? I'm still trying to contact Claire as I'm now desperate to talk with her. What I've found out is that Salmon were considered sacred by the ancients for a number of reasons. Because their pink flesh was the same colour as human skin stories grew of salmon to human transformation! Salmon were also considered to be creatures of two worlds because they can survive in both salt and fresh water. This all goes to explain why they became so sacred and revered. Tony you are an inspiration! Hey! Catch up Wise Owel! Haha
Tue Jan 6 15:02:16 2009

David
James Macpherson and Ossian - it was a hoax. James Macpherson was supposed to have made it all up. At the time a lot of well known writers including Samuel Johnson denounced the Ossian poems as forgeries and campaigned vigorously against Macpherson. He went so far as to include several derogatory references to Ossian in a Journey to the Western Islands of Scotland 1775. Where now?
Tue Jan 6 13:22:32 2009

David
After all that reserch into Ossian have just discovered that it is also a hoax or is it need more proof
Tue Jan 6 12:38:33 2009

David
This is huge. All the pieces are there. It is staring us in the face had a look at Ossian and James Macpherson. Don’t know why people are scared but things seem to be coming together - it is going to fall into place. But we need a bit more looking into Ossian and what James MacPherson translated from the works of Ossian some things are coming together. The Salmon for a start I was right The Salmon of Knowledge comes from Ossian. Ossian is Irish Celtic stories studied by James MacPherson and translated from Gaelic. What did we have to do at the start? Translate some Gaelic! There is a Irish Connection with the Stone of Destiny. It came from Ireland with an Irish King who took over part of Scotland. Using Goggle book search gets you the Ossian regarding Napoleon - he was a fan of the book.We need to know what else Clair said. I picked up Ossian but what did she say FOF means? This is the next stage for me. We are nearly there.
Tue Jan 6 12:14:45 2009

wise owel
mabye u have a twin
Tue Jan 6 09:39:08 2009

tony
Happy NY to all. Musing again: Salmon= Salmond which has lost a d ( Lost a Penny ,sorry Donna , you are probably too young to have known these ?) Find a Salmond! I've said all along that the answer is Holyrood.
Mon Jan 5 15:21:40 2009

David
Donna this is all about history and knowledge I myself have learned a lot this past couple of weeks about Scottish history the thing is about history and what we are looking at is do we know what is the truth and what is story - fact or fiction I believe what Claire says is true and will start looking into this could you please put up key words of what Claire and Beattie said. I believe we are close. By the way - ‘Penny’ how do we know that is the girls name? Maybe she needs our help to find Penny? Maybe that is the lady she always draws? I think the clues book is knowledge the book has more answers
Mon Jan 5 01:03:56 2009

Reply from Donna
Hi Sophie, Tony, Sandra and David! Happy New Year to you. Okay you guys looks like the salmon stone is a fake. So what do you think is going on here? What is Penny trying to tell me? I'm desperate to talk with Claire about Beattie's papers. I'm starting to think that she's on to something that I've missed. What do you think? If any of you have the time to back track through Beattie's and Claire's films I'd be grateful for your opinion. Fakes? Why would Penny be trying to get me to think about fakes? As you can tell David Clarke had quite an impact on me yesterday. He's made me step back a bit - made me want to analyse things a bit more. So that's what I'm asking you to do. I think we've got enough pieces of the jigsaw and should be able to put some possible theories together.
Sat Jan 3 19:36:19 2009

Sandra
Happy New Year!!!!
Fri Jan 2 19:52:55 2009

David
The Carving of a salmon in celtic terms you have the Salmon of Knowlage readed it somewhere maybe the book has something again what does it say about Fish
Thu Jan 1 18:28:03 2009

tony
salmon get salted to cure them before smoking. Smoked fish....arbroath smokies ( Ok so they're haddies)? Arbroath- you havent been there yet.
Thu Jan 1 14:23:04 2009

sophie
just to say happy christmas donna! i met someone that looked really really really like you at a party last night! i had the oddest conversation with her to try and find out if she was called penny. but she wasn't. she is going to look online here to find out about you though. she even sounded like you.
Wed Dec 31 21:15:54 2008

Sandra
Donna are trying to liberate a stone just like the Stone of Destiny was liberated??Maybe you should go out the where the original Craw Stane is another clue may be waiting there.Also noticed other images on mash up video the Person on horse is that an inverted image from the Hilton of Cadboll Stone? (remains of the original are in the Museum of ScotlandStruggling with this clue so much can't find anything about what the pictish symbol of a salmon means. Found out Pictish stones are monumental stelae (erected at graves/monuments?) decorations on them usually relate to person they are for. Are we looking for someone called Salmon?
Tue Dec 30 23:46:26 2008

tony
try " rub its ear" ???
Sun Dec 28 18:12:06 2008

Reply from Donna
Thanks Mike and happy New Year to you. And hello Iain! Thanks so much for introducing yourself. What a great heritage to have as part of your name, you must be very proud. Your grandfather must have been so cool. From what I've read and the little I know he must have had nerves of steel to be able to handle the pressure. Do you remember him well? I'm sure we would all love to hear more about him. Do you know where the real stone is? I bet it's not in Edinburgh anyway! Please get in touch again soon. All the best and have a happy New Year.
Fri Dec 26 15:30:16 2008

Iain Rollo McNab
Hi iam John Rollos grandson.Just to say hi and Happy christmas
Wed Dec 24 20:36:04 2008

Mike
Merry Christmas all
Tue Dec 23 18:40:26 2008

Reply from Donna
Thanks to all of you for working so hard at this. All I have to do now is con someone into taking me up there. It will have to be after Christmas as I've two shows to do tomorrow and I've promised to go to Mum and Dad's for Christmas. I've had an odd message from Claire - I'm not quite sure what she's getting at but the attack has really shaken her up. I've tried to call her but I can't get through to her. What do you make of it? She can't really believe that aliens have got to Beattie and zapped him in some strange way!!!! By the way this comment board won't be checked until the 27th/28th December but please keep posting and also send your comments by email. I can access the email from home and keep in touch with your thoughts from there. All the best and have a great Christmas. Sandra - I'm off to google Robert Mills right now. keep the ideas flowing. I'll also see if I can find pictures of the Craw stone and these stones at the carpark - thanks Tony nice to have you back. Donna xxx
Tue Dec 23 16:30:10 2008

Richard
Watching the video again, I noticed a second set of numbers (57.32674 -2.83297). These point at the end of the road the first found set are near. Looking at the Ordinance Survey maps, there are symbol stones at (or near) the end of this road. Doing some internet jiggery-pokery (fine, I looked at wikipedia and surfed out from there), the symbol stones are Pictish, there are three of them at the end of the road, and two more in the village square. Combining this with the symbols and whatnot glimpsed in the video, I reckon these stones are what you're after.Question is, what's at the stones, and how do the stones link to Donna and Penny?
Tue Dec 23 00:05:17 2008

Sandra
I think the voice is saying either, Robert Mills, Drop it in or possible rub it in. Could the latter one mean you need to take a rubbing from one of the carvings? Also in the video I got two sets of numbers (57.32674 -2.83297) and (7.32719 -2.83331). They both still lead to the same place Rhynie!!
Mon Dec 22 21:01:30 2008

tony
just come back into the search. The second image on the other clues board is definitely Maclean's cross on Iona.I have just checked with the official guide to Iona. The first cross may be the replicaSt John's cross but I'm not convinced. The original St John's is in the museum, with bits missing. The figures do not agree either with lat/long for Iona nor OS map references. If its really a clue to Rhynie, its a shame that I got rid of my Grampian touring guides a few weeks back. The famous Craw stone lies in a field and another small collection is under cover in a carpark at the end of a lane out of Rhynie. Some guides say there are stones on the green- there aren't. I havent checked but the reference numbers could be Longitude/Latitude in decimals, with longitude quoted first which is strange. What connection there might be between Maclean and Rhynie, I haven't a clue. Can someone explain to me where these cross picture came from- are they genuine clues? Query... is Donna still in this search or is it just us? May not be back until after Xmas. Poor homeless, lost Penny... Donna , have you tried Shelter?
Mon Dec 22 17:37:21 2008

Reply from Donna
Okay lets start picking over Rhynie and see what we can find. I've marked up the lat and long on the map page. We have to work out where it is they want us to go. Is it to the standing stones? Do any of you know where they are? Have we missed anything in the mashup video? What is that repeated phrase? I thought it was "rub it in" but now I'm thinking it's either Robert Inn or Rabbit Inn? David I don't think it's "Robert Myth" - I can't hear that! What do the rest of you think?
Mon Dec 22 16:56:42 2008

Richard
Mike, I've already tried the numbers as lat/long. If you put the numbers (+57.32719 -2.83331) into maps.google.com, they point to a spot near the end of a dead-end road coming out of Rhynie, Scotland.
Sun Dec 21 23:43:57 2008

Mike
Hi, the images are definitly of several pictish symbol stones...one from Bullion - Dundee, another - Hilton of Cadboll and the one that stood out for me....The salmon...pictish stone at Glamis. As Rhynie is known for these type of Symbol Stones...its got my vote.
Sun Dec 21 15:42:51 2008

Mike
Hi,thought I was hearing Robert's Inn. Going off at a tangent with RLS and Iona. I agree with Richard. The numbers are probably Latitude and Longitude...and point to Rhynie...known for pictish symbol stones.
Sun Dec 21 15:01:40 2008

Reply from Donna
Thanks guys - what's at Rhynie? Any battles or castles? Could it be Rabbit Inn that we're looking for?
Sun Dec 21 11:10:59 2008

Mike
going with my thoughts on Iona.... now, I'm not sure it is an OS map reference....could it be latitude and longitude???
Sun Dec 21 06:27:00 2008

David
Well what have we got on that memory stick The voice is it saying Robert Myth is it a myth about The Bruce himself well putting it into the search engine comes up with Robert the Bruce and the Knight Templers and BanockburnDid they help him or not then we hve the picturers is this Roslin Chaple in Edinburgh again connected to the Knight Templers Also remember the knight templers were suppose to protect the Holy Grail Tie in with Stone of Denstiny both objects were Holy Items is there a connection
Sun Dec 21 02:28:09 2008

Mike
If I remember rightly, St John's Cross had the more pronounced carvings.
Sun Dec 21 00:08:19 2008

Mike
Hi Donna...another step closer to solving the mystery. Hope you're holding up ok.A sum that results in 54.4939...could this be a 6 figure map ref 544939....what map?A flash of what could be a celtic cross....and "Robert's Inn".The only celtic crosses that ever made an impression on me were when I once visited Iona....St John's cross...AND MacLean's Cross.Robert's Inn??? - could this be tied into David's reference to Robert Louis Stevenson.Googled Iona, celtic cross and Stevenson....and found that the Stone of Destiny started its Life on IONA as the "Black Stone of Destiny"....and get this; Mr Stevenson stayed at the "Argyle" inn once, on IONA....he didn't like the chicken much.
Sun Dec 21 00:03:29 2008

Richard
The numbers that appear on the video 5pm Sat 20/12/08 (+57.32719 -2.83331), when put into google maps, leads to the end of a road leading out of Rhynie.
Sat Dec 20 20:48:28 2008

Reply from Donna
Thanks Mike - the ghost lady is a bit of a leap but happy to go with you! Didn't know about Dunstaffnage Castle and the stone of destiny connection - so thanks for that. Have you had any brilliant thoughts on how we get into the memory stick -I'm thinking hammer!
Thu Dec 18 19:00:50 2008

Mike
...Dunstaffnage Castle was also besieged and captured by Robert the Bruce in 1309.
Thu Dec 18 03:32:38 2008

Mike
Hi Donna....had a thought...the figure's a Green Lady. Looked up Green Lady on the net and the Stone of Destiny..."The Green Lady" is a well known spirit or Ghost that's known to protect homes and haunt castles.Dunstaffnage Castle near Oban...has it's own Green Lady, sometimes known as a Glaistaig. Its believed that the Kings of Dalriada originally kept the Stone of Destiny there.
Thu Dec 18 03:23:13 2008

Reply from Donna
Thanks Tony I think it's a good idea to keep working the Stone of Destiny angle but from what I now know this stone is hard to pin down! It's been grabbed; hidden and switched so often that I'm not sure anyone knows where it is right now. What makes you think the password for the memory stick is tied to the map? Isn't it more likely that the list of objects from Dairy Home Management book holds the key? I've got to get past the screen with the peg lady!
Wed Dec 17 16:31:11 2008

tony
if the map has Rollo at the bottom(south) , then the road goes SE-ish. Have been thinking about a ten letter result. Can think of two tenletter placenames: Forfar Gaol, where the stone was recovered to and Linlithgow, which is eastwards of Bonnybridge and has a big square in the middle ( like the book). You say you cant get into the memory stick, but how did you get the list of items, the little lady silhouette and the dashes, then? Sorry but since I cant read all your videos , I dont know what you can or cant do.
Wed Dec 17 12:45:57 2008

Reply from Donna
Thanks Mike I tried that but no luck - it didn't work. Tony you will find the screen grab in the more clues photo gallery.
Wed Dec 17 10:47:23 2008

Mike
Hi Donna....to access the flash drive further....could it be as simple as entering the first letter of each item as a password ....DECPTCDCTS ???
Wed Dec 17 00:50:42 2008

tony
recapping: the-back-to-front map had Rollo and an arrow ( I thought we had Roo and arrow pointing to d over the road= Rood). David might be the man... looking at the map, where does the arrow pointing down the road lead us, what road is this?
Tue Dec 16 19:11:26 2008

tony
Embroidery/tapestries? There are some big ones being done in restored hall at Stirling Castle..You have choices to make: follow the stone from Bonnybridge to Arbroath ( any tapestries there?) or St Andrews or .... ???give us some more clues. PS Please advise when will this search stop, cos in a weeks time I will be away forXmas and wont be able to help.
Tue Dec 16 18:54:29 2008

tony
donna...what do you mean=how do you access a memory stick? You stick it in a USB socket and then open that drive. Now tell us what it says. We cant do all your thinking for you. We have lives to lead as well... although perhaps anyone reading this might think otherwise. How I miss panto.. years since I was in one or directed one... haven't even seen one for years. Sad isnt it?Oh yes it is.
Tue Dec 16 18:45:15 2008

Sandra
Think that Tony has something!! Is it possible that the order the list is in is directions? ie - west, south, north east, north, then east. Or have we to find the missing items or relate those missing items to a place conected to the stone? Steam iron - iron foundry? The first aid pic that also has a pair of running shoes has a third item in it which I think is an oil for a sports injury? Go to a Hospital??
Mon Dec 15 22:42:39 2008

tony
donna: that list of items-- they all appear on the front cover of the Dairy Cookbook. My print out wasnt very sharp, so I couldnt identify everything on the cover... other items included (topleft) roast joint,topmiddle.. cant identify, paint tin & brush(t right) Middle rowL basket of flowers (geraniums?), middle demijohn , mirror and two ? bobble things. Mid right ??Bottom L Ist aid and ? wine bottle, middle ?scrolls, bottom rt ??All your items were in all the squares except middle.. so is that the next clue (someone tell me what the bobble things are)?If Arbroath ( Rollo engineering-mended stone- next destination) could clue be the scrolls= Declaration of Arbroath?Thats enough brain cells used for one day.
Mon Dec 15 17:24:30 2008

AngelA
Well done all...David mentioned Bonnybridge back on 22nd November as the hottest UFO spot in Scotland.There are 10 dashes and 10 groups of words. Too simplistic an approach?
Mon Dec 15 15:18:26 2008

David
Glad you got the clue in Bonnybridge thanks to mike and tony for helping to lead me to the picture .So Bettie dont forget about him FOF Was it him who sent you the film has he been watching you for this lenght of time also the stone and the link to rollo he gave us that clue it just does not add up to me WHY did he do it has he been leading us up the wrong path He is a bit of a jekyal and hyde character which was written by a scotsman Robert louie Stevenson he knows more than you think so what do we have now he will be back .So we have a computer mermory stick with a list of things that make no sence at the moment .we will get there
Sun Dec 14 23:52:53 2008

tony
Donna ..quick sunday recap: rollo engineering at bonnybridge is linked to the stone, where the two bits were put back together. Perhaps 'pend' was to make us find Bonnybridge. If you have to follow the stone then next stop should logically be Arbroathwhere it was taken after mending?
Sun Dec 14 21:09:54 2008

tony
Donna , please explain.. what memory stick/ list of items. Where did this come from? Why wont memory board stay at todays (Sat) date and not keep reverting to Friday unless I send a message.
Sun Dec 14 21:04:36 2008

tony
Just found this:"Despite the huge search, the students managed to get back over the border and the stone was hidden away, A home rule sympathiser, the industrialist John Rollo, kept it at his factory in Bonnybridge and pinned the two pieces back together." on scotland website, guide to stone. Where the pend comes in am not sure
Sun Dec 14 20:55:19 2008

Reply from Donna
Tony we got to the Pend and now we've got this strange list of stuff that comes up on screen when we try to access the memory stick that we found. Over to you guys. I had fantastic sleep over the weekend - no dreams! I'll get a screen grab up of the list and pop it into the more clues photo gallery. Hi Sandra - you're right the picture does seem to have gone but let's just let Beattie go - he's had his moment of fame! Hahaha Sandra I can't imagine what kind of adventure is ahead of me if I'm going to need all that stuff - Champagne is always useful though! I feel up for this today. xxx Donna
Sun Dec 14 16:34:09 2008

Sandra
Is it a list of items you need to collect for the next stage of this investigation. Or is it another anagram? take the first letter or something?
Sat Dec 13 18:42:36 2008

Sandra
The "penny" picture has gone from behind Beattie!!!! Doo do do dooooo!!!!!!
Sat Dec 13 18:20:25 2008

tony
just looked up Rollo and Bonnybridge - guess what - Rollo Engineering Ltd are at St Andrews Works, Bonnybridge- St Andrews again!!! OK, are you going to walk Antonine Wall/ canal and find the Pend or going to the Pend at St Andrew's Castle--- your decision. I'm going out for the night..Bye
Sat Dec 13 17:12:41 2008

tony
there is a Seabegs Roman fortlet, west of Bonnybridge on the Antonine Wall.you can get to it via the canal towpath ( car parking Bonnybridge Community Centre). There is an underpass known as the Pend. The Wall crosses the B816 near Antonine Primary School, where the medieval Seabegs Motte sits on a mound to north of ditch. (copied from Antonine Wall guide). Could get a decent map on screen so dont know if that's relevant.
Sat Dec 13 16:59:55 2008

tony
Hi Donna ... I see a new 'Tony' has appeared on the scene- it's not me He's the one who posted at 14:17:03 on Thursday 11th. I posted 3 messages later. Is he trying to steal my credit?
Sat Dec 13 16:32:56 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Just to let you know that Simone and I went to Bonnybridge today to check out the Radical Pend. Last night David sent me a link for a photograph of a tunnel in Bonnybridge called the Radical Pend. Grid Ref: NS824801. As soon as we got there I knew it was the place from my dream. I've just posted a film about the trip. We found a pc memory stick but we are having trouble accessing it. All we get is what looks like a shoping list! Will update you more about that tomorrow. Got to go shine on stage ...OHHHH! Simone asked a local about Rollo when we were in Bonnybridge. Get this the Rollo factory was used to hide the stone of destiny when it was stolen in the early 1950's. John Rollo kept it hidden while Police were searching for it! Hi Bambi I don't think we should waste any more time on Mr. Beattie - he clearly can't be trusted. He can crawl into his bottle and laughs himself to death for all I care!
Sat Dec 13 16:25:18 2008

Susanna-Ruth
beattie had never laughed before and as you could see there was drink in his hand so he might of been drunk. but still... the documents...
Sat Dec 13 14:58:22 2008

tony
when do you update the message board. It still sticks at Wednesday and today is Saturday.
Sat Dec 13 12:12:13 2008

Mike
Hi Donna, Rollo Engineering make Boring equipment. Can't tell you much else about them. They're on the Bonnyhill Road B816; not far south of the Antonine Wall and Roman Fort. OS Landranger Map 65 grid ref NS837793....
Sat Dec 13 05:56:53 2008

Bambi
Pend is originally a Scots word for archway.
Fri Dec 12 20:56:57 2008

Bambi
So is Beattie telling us Penny is not real?
Fri Dec 12 20:32:03 2008

AngelA
David sounds like he is getting *hot*. Even has the Napolion linkage ! (Beattie's papers...grrr!)
Fri Dec 12 19:38:34 2008

David
At Last something to work on. Right Down to Buisness - Reading what people have been saying Bonnybridge seems to tie in to the clues. Why dont know yet .Local Lad so it gets my vote but here is some evidence: 1. Aliens - from the start have been saying that Bonnybridge is Famouse for them. 2 Rollo Engerneering is in Bonnybridge. 3 History related we have The Roman Fort and Antionnes Wall. 4 We have the Radical Pend. Will send information by email and a picture. This even links to Napoleon and the Carron Works it was because of the carron works and a cannon they made which helped Nelson beat Napoleon. Just a little bit of local history. We also see Stonewood in the map. Everyone use Windows maps you get a better Ariel view the map looks close at Bonnybridge but still not 100% sure.
Fri Dec 12 17:12:04 2008

Reply from Donna
Got to be quick. Tony, I couldn't get Stirling Bridge to match up with my map. I can't find any mention of access to underground passages or sewers at Blackfriars in Perth. So we seem to be back in Bonnybridge. It fits with UFO - flying saucer sweets and nasty alien head! There is the canal which could be the straight bit of water on my map? Thanks Tony for the definitions of Pend - I like the sound of vaulted passageway that's what it seems like in my dream. More tunnel than cave. Mike where is Rollo Engineering? Is it near the canal? What do they make there? Does the Rollo name of the factory come from a family in the Bonnybridge area? And if so are they related back to some of the ancient Rollo's that AngelA and Tony have been digging up? What about the 'order' from the FOF to follow the stone of destiny? Is the stone linked to a Rollo or to Bonnybridge in someway? Just had another thought -has anyone considered that Rollo could be R0110. Does that number mean anything? Got to go the half is being called. Theatre lovey term!
Fri Dec 12 10:53:41 2008

AngelA
Duncrub is 1 km northwest of Dunning. The estate was the property of the Lords Rollo.Can't yet find a map of Duncrub to see if anything looks like your dream-map
Fri Dec 12 08:11:09 2008

AngelA
Found this on Wikipedia.Rollo : "The name first appears on record in a charter of around 1141 granted by Robert de Brus. Black’s Surnames of Scotland lists numerous variants for the spelling of this name, and one Robert Rolloche obtained from King David II of Scotland lands near Perth in 1369.The fortunes of the chiefly family were established in February 1380, when John Rollok, secretary to David, Earl Palatine of Strathearn and brother of King Robert II of Scotland, received a charter from the king of the lands of Duncrub. His son, Duncan Rollo of Duncrub, was Auditor of State Accounts until his death in 1419."Traces of Rollo clan oringins near Perth (crop circle land also !), also a mention of Duncrub.
Fri Dec 12 08:03:48 2008

AngelA
So Mr. Beattie was having us all on, "flux" indeed, and his ad was in on Monday not Friday...double farce ! And the ad doesn't show up on the P&J search capability even when you put in "Donna Dunbar".Can't wait to hear what is in the envelope...will check back later today.The map ! "Pend", it fits. It's a sewer or drainlike passageway (thanks to Tony, again!). You heard water running in your dream of a "cave-like" place. The "X" is over the river, which is running over the "pend".If we find the location. Rollo seems to be the key.Hey, Tony also said to hold the map up to a mirror on 3rd of December ...we're a bit slow on the uptake aren't we ;-)
Fri Dec 12 07:56:24 2008

Mike
Isn't there a section of Antonine's wall near there?
Fri Dec 12 04:00:33 2008

Mike
Hi Donna, my mistake, Bonnybridge is on the Forth and Clyde Canal...and not far from the Union Canal at Falkirk. Could the map relate to an area around there???
Fri Dec 12 03:53:53 2008

Mike
Hi Donna, wonder if this will help. Bonnybridge is known for it's many UFO sightings...and...Rollo Engineering is based there. The Union Canal is not far away. Could the "Pend", given one of Tony's definitions as an arch/covered passage way be a bridge or Tunnel....say the "Laughin & Greetin" Bridge, the Roughcastle Tunnel or the Falkirk Tunnel??
Fri Dec 12 03:35:36 2008

tony
last thought tonight before I have to do more Christmas Cards: Rollo, Davidson ,McFarlane are a firm of solicitors with offices in Cupar, St Andrews and GlenRothes , according to Google.Rollo and Pend are connected with St Andrews , so perhaps you should be looking at the castle.Didn't the Stone go there also?
Thu Dec 11 20:31:14 2008

tony
just looked at the map. You are asking about a 'pend'. Historic Scotland's Dictionary gives four meanings: 1. an archway/covered passage way or 2. vaulted passageway in sewer or drain 3. a birdsmouth rebate in stone usually in steps and 4.a street drain. James1 was murdered in a sewer/drain. Why are you asking this question: I havent seen mention of a pend in any messages or videos.
Thu Dec 11 18:17:56 2008

tony
More download problems. I tried to view your trip to Stirling but only the first ten seconds run, and they are disjointed. There appeared to be a message set up before the video, but it doesnt stay on the screen long enough... it disappears behind the video. So please, what was your message from Stirling.Could you put these transcripts up on the message board, simultaneously with any relevant photo clues ? Only one bit did I get: Holy Rood church...now where have I heard Holyrood before? PS You are looking much happier now.
Thu Dec 11 18:07:37 2008

Reply from Donna
Tony that's fantastic. That could be it. I'm going to check out the Stirling map now. The only thing is that the water seems to run over the bridge in my map. maybe just a mistake - I was asleep after all. Hey twins and iain thanks so much for your honest thoughts about living with your twins and triplets. I meant to ask are any of you identical? Maybe you told me that already. I'll check back.
Thu Dec 11 14:48:58 2008

Tony
I reckon your scribblings during the night indicate an arrow. Like most maps the arrow always points NOrth. THis allows you to orientate your map. The river indicated could be the river near stirling which flows out to the Firth of Forth. As Stirling forms a trianlge in UFO ville it might fit. Added to that, on maps battlefields normally are marked with crosses and that the battle of Stirling took place near the bridge ie a cross on the river maybe everything points to Stirling but where????Sorry for the rambling Good Luck
Thu Dec 11 14:17:03 2008

Sandra
Hey Donna good to see you buzzing with excitement again! Can't wait to see what Neil and Simone have picked up.
Wed Dec 10 23:53:05 2008

Reply from Donna
Tony I'm so sorry that you're still having problems. Have you been able to read the video descriptions we're putting up? I've no idea what's going on with the Wonderboard. We're trying to get permission from BBC bosses to make all our videos up loadable. Will keep you in touch with that. The Blackfriars' monastery was the scene of the murder of James I by Walter, earl of Atholl, in 1437. But it's nothing more than an archaeological site now Tony. Florence I've given you four stars! Hadn't heard from you for ages and thought you had left us - thanks so much for the scans of the adverts. Welcome back! Hi Bambi great to hear from you. Will tell all soon!
Wed Dec 10 18:22:32 2008

Bambi
What does it mean Donna?
Wed Dec 10 17:27:17 2008

Iain
Hi Donna sorry i've not been puttin much input in to this.It's because I've been doing some panto as well.Anyway 1 of my triplets and i dont get angry at each other it's quite the opposite but we do have the same dreams and it does sometimes annoy.
Tue Dec 9 19:47:52 2008

Florence
Hello Donna. I've sent you an email with a scan from yesterday's Press and Journal. I'm sure this is what you're waiting for. But, as ever, it doesn't look that straight forward - bit like your hair! Hahaha. I've not checked today's paper but it's most likely in today as well. Best of luck.
Tue Dec 9 17:35:31 2008

Susanna-Ruth
hi! ive had a look at the picture you drew donna when you were sleeping. it lokos clearly like a map to me. does it look familiar. when you dreamt that you were down in that celler/dungeon thing you could of drawn the place were it's located. have a look in the atlas and have a browse for the drawing. if you can get to the place. look for tourist atractions. many many dungeons :)my sister registered but she hasn't had a reply...???
Tue Dec 9 16:38:05 2008

Susanna-Ruth and Sarah
Thank you for the video post. Most of the time we get angry at the same things and also sometimes feel the same. So we know what you mean. We have dreamed a few of the same dreams, which was kinda freaky but the sharing a life thing somtimes we feel to much like we are taking up each others space especalliy in school. About the dna thing we have never heard of it but they used to think that twins had the same dna though they are about 80% the same the other 20% is what makes us unigue. Also we have had dreams about sort of victorian time being homless.
Tue Dec 9 16:19:54 2008

tony
Last thought for Mon 8th. Last programme I saw was Macdonald v Stewarts. James 1 murdered in sewer at a Dominican Monastery in Perth. What monastery was it- none of my books tell me. Is this the dream place? Augustinians had a monastery at Scone... that name again.
Mon Dec 8 22:02:29 2008

tony
its happened again. I visited friends picture board. Couldnt read the recipe.. poor repro. Came back to wonderboard and it opened again at Wed 3rd Dec..please stop or I will.
Mon Dec 8 21:41:59 2008

tony
anything new on site since Wed 3rd?
Mon Dec 8 21:29:04 2008

AngelA
Hello ! Donna...anybody there ? !!!!Has Mr Beattie also been kidnapped?We've got all kinds of loose ends (or they seem so); the wee green man and UFO's, stone of destiny, the map, Rollo. Is there a site(a castle) with a statue of Rollo in Scotland?
Mon Dec 8 10:07:19 2008

tony
five minutes ago I sent you a message. The wonderboard said something about he recipe is in the gallery. When I look it isnt there, so go back to wonderboard which has reverted to Wed 3rd Dec. What is happening... how do I get back to today's message board? Anyone else having these problems?
Sat Dec 6 21:12:25 2008

tony
Looked at P&J (Inverness Edition) for whole week, except for some inner pages on Thurs which were missing.. I bet that is where any clue was , cos I couldnt find anything . A Donna did put an ad in personal columns but she was 35 and wanted a mature gent. In same edition a Brian was looking for a lady with GSOH... cant be you cos you havent smiled for days.
Sat Dec 6 21:06:44 2008

Reply from Donna
Okay Tony - I've put the scone reciepe page up in the "My friends stuff" gallery as it's your brain wave. With the P and J idea looking like a dead end anything is worth a look. Hey Bambi where are you when we need you?!
Fri Dec 5 21:05:38 2008

tony
3rd thought of the day.. The Dairy Book... what did it say about making Scones( pronounced scons, not scoons or scoans, unless you are a sassenach). Any pictures, cryptic notes etc?
Fri Dec 5 19:57:11 2008

AngelA
Yep! have also spent the last 2 hrs searching under "personal" , "Bryan Beattie", "Trust me", etc. and finally resorted to scanning pages of "puppy" and "sofa" ads on the P&J just in case an ad was squeezed in there... nada,nichts,nothing ;-(Don't feel like I've earned a star, but thanks anyway. It has brought us no further ahead and may just have confused the whole Lost Penny community.
Fri Dec 5 19:40:18 2008

Reply from Donna
Tony you rock. Against the odds you just keep on pushing brilliant ideas forward. Should call you Bruce!Please register as a friend so I can reward you with some stars! Just finished the first show - went really well but I've paid a heavy price for my art - will explain later. Must grab something to eat before tonight's performance. Thanks for the info on Rollo. Will try and get into your ideas asap. Sending you an email later tonight which might work for you - fingers crossed.
Fri Dec 5 17:24:16 2008

tony
1380 Rollo received charter from Robert II to Duncrub, Dunning in Perthshire. I am fairly familiar with Dunning but the map doesnt fit. False lead? Dates and Robert connection seem suitable.Then there is current wizz Marcus di Rollo, Scottish rugby player.. which could lead us to Murrayfield?I dont know who he plays for .. could map fit his home town?If I knew what B Beattie said in his last video, then I'd try the Dairy Book as a clue.
Fri Dec 5 17:07:00 2008

tony
First I cant get videos, so dont know what B Beattie etc has had to say, now the wonderboard wont update... it keeps reverting to an earlier date. As if the puzzle wasnt enough.If Rollo and sherbert flying saucers are we looking for a sweetie shop? Or is that Rolo? Rollo was ancestor of William the Conqueror , who clobbered Malcolm once or twice, but that's putting the clock back before the Bruce.Bruc'e ancestors were Normans I think , so are we looking for an early Norman settlement.
Fri Dec 5 15:56:53 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Sarah and Susanna-Ruth - I really thought the P and J was going to be the answer to Beattie's double speak but I can't see anything - I'm gutted. Sarah your idea about replicas and originals is well worth a star or two - get yourself registered and up on the friends page girl and I'll be able to set you up with some! I've got to go now and get my hair done for the panto - the show opens this afternoon. I'm just so praying that I get the routines right and don't fall on my bottom!
Fri Dec 5 10:38:19 2008

Sarah
You know how the stone of destiny is at edinburgh castle well since you went to the replica at scoone then it might be the real one in edingburgh. Just like penny is a replica of you!
Thu Dec 4 20:50:17 2008

Sarah
hi donna I think angelA is right and it will be i tomorrows p and j also my twin is susanna-ruth she is one of your friendsXX
Thu Dec 4 20:46:27 2008

Susanna-Ruth
i think AngelA's on to something. i was also thinkiin that Beattie said that 'they' were after him. i was wondering who.... so some one could look in the p and j for anything to do withpeople around the area or anything at all in the p and j that looks a bit different. (unfortunately we didn't get the p and j yesterday so i couldn't do it. soz) this just keeps getting more confusing!!!!! :( on to a different matter. i think that penny is in safe hands because she seemed quite happy in the polaroids and she could also mabye WANT to take you on a quest like this. im sure you'll get there in the end!!!
Thu Dec 4 20:26:17 2008

Reply from Donna
AngelA and everyone! Yes yes yes! That has to be it. AngelA - you is clever! Let's keep an eye on the P and J tomorrow and see if anything turns up - as Beattie says "all of you can see that" - because it's available online. It all fits! David I had a good look through the book but couldn't find anything obvious. Will get back to you if I spot something but I think we should go with AngelA's idea just now. Sophie maybe it's the FOF that are after him. Maybe they are protecting me and Penny from him? Tony I agree with you I see Rollo rather than Room. It's an odd name - can we find out more about this Norman? Did he have any connection to Scone and the stone? Or is Rollo a place name that would help us work out where the map (if it is a map?) is from. Some breaking news from my short lived theatrical career - the college phoned this afternoon and asked if I would get back into panto rehearsals. A few of the girls are off ill and they need me. So I've said yes. The show must go on. Neil and Simone are going to keep an eye on things here. xxx Donna.
Thu Dec 4 18:49:12 2008

AngelA
...so looking at the rest of Bryan's message, there is a "Family Announcements" section on the P&J Newspaper website. If "get after "O" and before "K"" means get today's P&J, the newspaper... there is an option "personal",but Bryan Beattie says "see you on Friday", so should we check this "personal" announcements page on "Friday".Maybe there will be message posted there for Donna... I think I'll quit here, while I can ;-)
Thu Dec 4 18:02:05 2008

AngelA
Description of Kingcausie Estate from the P&J article on front page 4th December "If the road goes ahead as planned, the carriageways would cut through the area of trees next to the house and the neighbouring Cleanhill Woods.The sound of rushing water was heard by the group as they headed for the next stop – a craggy gorge known as Corbie Lynne and fabled to be home to a kelpie guarding a pot of gold. It would not be directly affected by the bypass but the road would run between the gorge and the main house." ...I feel way off the track and on slippery ground ! Anyone think any of this is relevant?
Thu Dec 4 17:33:04 2008

AngelA
On the front page of today's "The Press & Journal" (The P&J) is an article about Kingcausie Estate, Aberdeen...that can't be right, can it ? Is that map of the Kingcausie Estate ? But how do aliens fit and flying saucers ?
Thu Dec 4 17:16:43 2008

AngelA
Could it be "Get the P&J (the Northern news paper)today not tomorrow". ..going to check if there's an article we should read..bye!
Thu Dec 4 17:05:47 2008

David
Betties Clue is it to do with the book think about it After o before k some thing to do with index or pages Its Personal that is what you belive the book belonged to you mother and everyone can see it everyone helping you mentioned the book at sometime by the way check out betties picture on his web site
Thu Dec 4 17:04:24 2008

AngelA
Good, Mr Beattie has to work with us now that "they are after him". Is he trying to give you a rendez-vous location for Friday? After "O" = "P" and before "K" = "J"...but then I was rubbish at the last coded word puzzle.Oh, I called Scone Palace and asked about the bell in the tree.Their "head historian" is going to call me back. Will keep you posted,in case it is relevant.
Thu Dec 4 16:50:25 2008

tony
Remapping my thoughts: perhaps it isnt Holyrood, but the letters might be Rollo or Room( if you turn the arrow shape on its side).There was a significant Norman called Rollo and no doubt others but cant think of a connection. The lady sihouette on the cards and envelope definitely suggest something 'convenient'.
Thu Dec 4 15:16:40 2008

sophie
who is after beattie? aliens? the people who have got penny?
Thu Dec 4 13:05:56 2008

Reply from Donna
Here's the transcript you were after David. "Get after o and before K. It's personal. All of you can see that. Will see you this Friday." Then he tells me to trust him today but don't trust him tomorrow - hmmmm?
Thu Dec 4 11:57:30 2008

David ..
Is Bettie giving us a other Anogram to work out Donna can you get what he sayed up on the Board as a clue After o and before k has he given us a clue and we just have to work it out this has to do with the statment
Thu Dec 4 10:28:53 2008

Sandra
Dunno about what Beattie is saying. But is the map of Scone?
Wed Dec 3 23:20:20 2008

Reply from Donna
Guys, I just want to say thanks again for all your support and ideas so far. It might sound a bit cheesy but I really do not know what I would do without you all!! :) Ok back to the map. Andrew/David/Tony, this map could be anywhere!!! Will put flags on our clue map to mark the locations you have suggested so far. Tony, your suggestion of taking a backwards view of the map by using a mirror is really interesting indeed!!! I have just used my compact mirror and I am seeing PEND and the word ROLLO! Also can you see an arrow after ROLLO? Hmm as for the X - I am not sure about the clue being in the middle of a river either. For a start, whoever put it there might not have made it out alive! Although I remember hearing running water in my dream and it was really dark as though I was in a tunnel. Soooo X (assuming the clue is there) must be somewhere near water. It must be, why else would my dream be so vivid? It was during that dream that I drew this map thingy too. We need to think about what I discovered in Scone as well – the flying saucers, the weird alien dude. They must be linked to this map in some way! Where does it take us? Tony, I will try to get this transcript sorted tomorrow too! Oh and David, I like your thoughts about treasure, hehe would be great if I found bags of gold! I agree about the trees helping us too. Remember, send in anything you think could be useful, i.e. links to maps, your own ideas on video! Pics, drawings etc - anything that can help!
Wed Dec 3 22:15:34 2008

tony
Donna..Taking a backwards view of your map ( hold it up in front of a mirror) and trace the map.. i can read 'Peny' ( spelling!) and 'Roo(d)' so I guess I was right .Penny's next clue is in Edinburgh. I cant match your map to anywhere I know in E but I am guessing somewhere down the Royal Mile near Palace? Not convinced the shaded area is a river- not many/any around Holyrood. It doesnt fit Water of Leith and why does a road appear to go under this hatched area? If 'X' marks the spot, it's not likely to be in the middel of a river, is it?Still cant get any videos downloaded. is there any way I can get a transcript? You asked could I email a video mesage using a webcam or mobile... no, you must be joking - no such toys. Can build a computer, though.
Wed Dec 3 20:56:17 2008

David
Donna Looked at Dunfemline Abbey using Windows Map can not be sure if the Map you have Drawn is that of Dunfemline Abbey Turning it around it could fit but the big thing is have you drawn a river through the map if so then it is not Dunfemline my other thought is Stirling with the bridge going over the river and the old bridge further up not sure have to look up more but sure Bruce did something around here or it may have been wallace something regarding Treasure getting split up here maybe off in wrong direction going to try nd put up maps of dunferline And stirling any one else got any thoughts Town with a river running through it Big Bridge ansd trees other side Help us out by looking at the clue
Wed Dec 3 14:26:41 2008

andrew mclean
the map is missing the town of hamilton ml3. but shows quarter village?. good ideas thow good luck.andrew .
Wed Dec 3 10:58:12 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Tony, I'm sorry - I've been a bit out of it. Did you hear that I've been kicked out of college to sort out my personal issues? I'm just up and down just now and me and panto rehearsals weren't really working out - I can't blame the college. Simone still wants me to get some pills from the doc but I don't want that. I just don't feel like doing any video blogs at the mo'. Will try and get back into the groove soon. Hey why don't you send us a video message!? That goes for all of you. Use a mobile or web cam and email me your words of wisdom. If I can I'll transcode them into flash video format and put them up on the site. I've discovered that Beattie worked as a cultural advisor to the Scottish government a few years back and wrote a regularly newspaper column. Maybe he's more credible than I thought. I wish he'd just tell us what's biting him! Also have you all checked out my drawing from the other night? It's in the clues photo gallery. Let me know what do you make of it? Tony, I will drop you an email regarding the video play problems you're having.
Tue Dec 2 21:11:02 2008

tony
has the website stopped? No new messages or videos since 29th Nov? Cant view videos.. is there a way round this
Tue Dec 2 20:40:17 2008

AngelA
Donna, What did you write or draw on the notebook during your sleep-walk experience ?
Tue Dec 2 18:17:18 2008

Reply from Donna
Hey Tony if there are spiders in it then you can forget it! I hate them. David's right though there are a number of places that claim to be THE cave. Anyhow Neil Oliver says the whole Bruce spider thing was a myth. David please check out the drawing I did in my sleep - its in the clues photo gallery image 20. We think it looks like a map. Do you recognise it as a map of Dumfermline Abbey? Dear Sophie thanks for the medical lesson -you have quite a potty mouth for someone with such great taste in shoes! I agree with you about Beattie - and I'd be okay to meet with him if he offered. AngelA sorry about the trouble with the video - there was a problem with it but I think it's fixed now.
Mon Dec 1 22:01:52 2008

David
Hi Donna dont worry about the sleep walking you are under a lot of stress at the moment try to relax Try Meditating .Any way back to the clues Bettie is giving us nothing but he has the answer regarding the Alians that I am sure .The Book still has some thing to do with it .As for your dream this can lead us anywhere Scotland has hundreds of caves and if this is to do with bruce then there is about 3/4 that claim to be the cave. One tie in to the Bruce and your Dream about the cave is Dunfermline.Robert the Bruce is Buried in the Abby and we also have Saint Margaret`s Cave in Dunfermline the only problem is its closed this time of year .Donna Relax try Medition you have the answers just dont know were yet
Mon Dec 1 13:42:04 2008

AngelA
Also spotted that there were two "stones of destiny" and resulting confusion. Love the "two halves become one" theme. Fits your story well ;-)I'm also with Tony on the "spider man" theme...this must be about Bruce..and his cave (your dream).The other cave was Constantine the 2nd lived out the remainder of his life after retiring in a cave - location?I'm following up on the Bell on the tree at Scone Palace.It appears to have been rung to mark coronations, the passing of Acts of Parliament,i.e. major events. But more to follow on its exact origine soon,I hope.
Mon Dec 1 11:45:18 2008

AngelA
Having a problem accessing "Donna's Night" video...help please!
Mon Dec 1 11:26:13 2008

sophie
the beattie guy - what a load of ***?! i didn't know what flux was so looked it up - its diahorrea donna. i would discount him completely except he looks really kind and concerned and ok, not too like a psychopath. he certainly believes what he's saying so there must be something that is freaking him out. Would he agree to meet you? You could take the whole bbc team so you wouldn't be in any danger.
Mon Dec 1 10:53:50 2008

tony
Another suggestion . The alien looks like spiderman who's eaten something disagreeable. The only Scottish Spiderman I know is Robert the Bruce.. ties in with last weeks programme. Now where was his cave? That would be dark and damp. Worth a Look?
Sun Nov 30 13:28:58 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Sandra - Sharp of you to notice the picture but I can't be certain that it's Penny. What do the rest of you think? Thanks for the update on the stone - it's a really complicated story. The stone seems to have its name changed all the time. I'll check into the Dunsinane link - I'm sure I came across that myself the other day. Something to do with a discovery of an underground room or cellar. You say the stone broke into two pieces in the 1950 theft. So who fixed it? Anybody know? - "the two became one" (sorry that's very FOF of me) but if the stone of destiny was also split in two by Bruce with one bit becoming the Blarney stone and the other bit remaining with him then maybe the FOF are trying to make the two stones become one again. I'm starting to think the stone might have some kind of "power". Hear me out! - I've read that it was used as a pillow by Jacob at a place called Bethel and he had this dream about God while his head was on it. - Genesis 28:10-15. He blessed the stone with oil and set it up as a temple stone. I'm going nuts arn't I? I'm sorry Sandra I've no idea who my mother was and I have nothing that would help me trace back to her. The fire happened while we were in the school - I think it was workmen that caused it by leaving equipment on. Nobody was hurt. Hi Tony thanks for the email - I'll try and get to the bottom of the video problem for you on Monday. I think your Tennants idea is as good an idea as anyone has had but I have this really strong feeling that the Dairy book was once my blood mother's.
Sat Nov 29 20:08:50 2008

Sandra
Donna, Have you got access to your birth certificate? Can you trace your Mothers history and her future? Also how did your school burn down? Was it investigated?
Sat Nov 29 20:08:13 2008

tony
can anyone tell me why the videos are not downloading and running properly, please?Last one I saw was original Brian Beattie saying something like 'stop, dont proceed' Were you at Scone at the time. Was he saying 'stay put ' ie look around Scone for more clues?I got a jumbled version of you in a cellar and damp...? Going back to my Tennant's theme.. are you dreaming of being under the streets of Edinburgh? Could you be in the cellars of Scone Palace... does it have any?
Sat Nov 29 19:49:01 2008

Sandra
ME AGAIN!!!!One story said the Stone came from Ireland originaly so maybe you don't need to go to Tara.Another story says that Bruce gave part of the stone to Cormic McCarty, King of Munster and that became the Blarney Stone. - Off to Cork?1296 Stone of Scone is stolen by Edward I and ended up in Wesminster Abbey.Some believe that the stone never actually made it to Westminster and that it was either hiden in the River Tay or buried on Dunsinane Hill. Now this is where I'm wandering off the track a bit I think. Dunsinane Hill is mentioned in Shakespeare's Macbeth. Now don't tell my English teacher but I can't really remember a lot of it but did he not have a moment of madness thinking about sights in the sky or am I thinking of Hamlet (or just imagining it all?).Christmas day 1950 saw a Stone being recovered from Westminster by Ian Hamilton, Gavin Vernon, Kay Matheson and Alan Stuart. This stone was broke into 2 pieces and eventuallt made its way to Scotland. Once mended was left in the care of the Church of Scotland at Arbroath Abbey in 1951. It then made it's way back to Westminster and again rumours surfaced stating that this was not the real stone. - Arbroath will be lovely this time of year Donna! Currently the Stone resides in Edinburgh Castle awaiting its next trip south whenever the next coronation may be.
Sat Nov 29 19:32:45 2008

Sandra
Wikipedia search for Stone of destiny gives information on Lia Fail, which is Irish for Stone of Destiny. Our stone is only commonly known as the Stone of destiny, but it's real name listed on Wikipedia is Stone of Scone. Do you need to go to Ireland Donna?
Sat Nov 29 18:29:25 2008

Sandra
Has anyone else noticed that on the wall to the right shoulder of Bryan Beattie is a picture of someone that looks a bit like Donna or possibly Penny?
Sat Nov 29 17:56:11 2008

David
This Man Bettie is giving us nothing what flux in time born I can not find any thing historicaly that happend when you were born apart from your birth of course Flux in time way over my head BUT this man has the answer to the clue regarding the aliens check out his shirt it has a spaceship on it is he a member of the FOF is there Seven of them just like the sweets .Donna you can not give up how can finding you sister be Harmfull to you Ido agree with Beattie on a few points this is well planed and they are ledding you somewere by the way do you think there is a point to the green feltip pen they use on everything they send you it has to be green
Sat Nov 29 02:53:53 2008

Toby J
The new warning from Beattie all sounds a bit Torchwood. It could tie in with how history is really the interpretation of events by stories passed down, like Blind Harry or re-written by the winners. So there are many Wallaces, the freedom fighter, the guardian, the terrorist. There are many Bruces, the King, the Patriot, the murderer, the opportunist, the hero. So Beattie could be suggesting that there are many Donnas, the dancer, the tv runner, the lost penny? Who Penny is depends on who is left to tell the story and the evidence recovered. The emphasis of the Stone of Destiny could be leading you to the opposite view. Destiny = Fate so your life is mapped out not subject to change or interpretation. The FOF could be leading you away from multiple life stories to secure your own fixed biography & reality.Could the clues be pointing toward s the advice - don't allow others to take your destiny as Edward snatched away the Stone?
Sat Nov 29 02:49:40 2008

lorne
The stone of destiny was stolen byking Edward the first of England.mabe Penny is in england
Fri Nov 28 20:47:50 2008

tony
trying to get up to date but now none of your videos will run. Get message saying "problem" . Didnt you like my "Tennant" connection with Neil the author of the Dairy Book and Dr Who( alien skull). Tennant Brewery- where is/was it ? There was one on the site of the Parliament building , so going across FOF (Firth of Forth) brings us to Edinburgh. This is as plausible as anything else suggested to date. Actually, I'm wondering why I am bothered by Penny's fate. Why doesnt she just phone ? PS Brian Beattie was a Highland Councillor, but is no longer.
Fri Nov 28 20:24:55 2008

Susanna-Ruth
just adding on from iain my twin and i also say the same thibgs at the same time. also at schoolwe will come up with the same answers espesially (sorry if i have spelt that wrong) if its in history or science.i was just wondering, the alien and the space saucers could represent the sky! so if you ever go to the stone of destiny look up. just a suggstion. :P
Thu Nov 27 16:19:59 2008

Reply from Simone
Hi Everyone, Donna isn't feeling well today and is in her bed. I just found out - but she says she hopes to be back with us tomorrow. I've decided to put up a compilation video of the last few weeks for new friends joining the site. We've noticed quite a few new names on the comments board (abbie, caramac, cat - don't forget you can register as a friend as well. Sussanne-Ruth thanks for registering. Hi David - Donna told me to give you another star for the great ideas you're pushing her way. Do you know why the bell is in the tree? We've heard nothing more from this Beattie guy and we realy don't know what Penny or the FOF are expecting us to do next. We had an instruction from the FOF on the comments board on Tuesday so Donna has started researching into the Lia-fail/Stone of Destiny. She's tryng to follow its movements through history. Maybe you guys could help with that? I've got another map set up and ready to go onto the site. Our plan is to try and plot the stone and pull together the different stories about it. Ok enough from me - I'm sure Donna will be feeling better tomorrow she just needs to get a decent nights sleep.
Thu Nov 27 13:17:02 2008

David
The bell in the cedar tree is Italiain cast around 1600 and unsubcribed was probly used as a clock bell ..
Thu Nov 27 12:45:15 2008

David
We have too many questions and not enough answers we need to go back to go forward we need more at the moment Scone was too easy have we missed something Why wil penny not talk to you why the clues they need you to discove something regarding Scottish historyHave we missed something at sconeFOF What does it mean The book left for you What do aliens and scotland history have in commonwhat has the woman picture have to do with thisWith out more clues we can go off in many directions give us more Penny FOF we will help
Thu Nov 27 12:34:47 2008

David
FOF Fact or Fiction Early Scotish history is storys/legengs William Wallace for example most of what we know was written by a guy called blind harry about 100 years after Wallaces death a lot of history is like this The stone of scone has many storys regarding itRobert the Bruce and the spider famous story Are they trying to led us to what they belive is the true history of Scotland .Aliens Fact or fiction what do you belive
Thu Nov 27 12:20:49 2008

AngelA
Toby J. mentioned that the alien head reminded him of two things, and that one is the cast of Robert the Bruce's head..having watched the last episode of BBC's Scotland's History the head of Bruce in his facial armour,mouth gaping, wide eyed does look very like our wee alien! Or is it the other way around ?FOF is reminding us of the stone of destiny...we need the next clue Penny (or FOF) if you are watching !
Thu Nov 27 04:32:30 2008

AngelA
Perhaps Bryan Beattie can tell us more about his "study" which is causing him to warn us all to drop this quest...are you out there Bryan? Tell us more,please!
Thu Nov 27 04:17:52 2008

AngelA
OK, rising to the challenge and spurred on by the carrot of another star (you sure know how to keep us on our toes!). I'll have a dig around on the story behind the bell !One wee thing, Donna...it's Angel-A, as in captial "A"...as in the Luc Besson movie heroin ..."pretentious! moi?" ;-)
Wed Nov 26 21:38:48 2008

abbie
IT might be your twin sister and it could be the person who gave you the photo...I wish you a happy 18th birthday donna! you look interesting... I watch your filims? are you scared...........
Wed Nov 26 18:55:30 2008

abbie
IT might be your twin sister and it could be the person who gave you the photo.................................................
Wed Nov 26 18:48:39 2008

caramac
maybe the dream is a premonition of some kind
Wed Nov 26 18:32:56 2008

Iain
hi donnnaI read the comments where u asked if suzanah-ruth could say to u about being a twin and if there was somekind of connection between her and her twin.I'm a triplet somtimes we come out saying the same thing etc.p.s i have already registerd as a friend .
Wed Nov 26 17:34:49 2008

David
Donna if FOF have been keeping a Eye on you for some time then maybe they thing you know your Scottish History as you worked on the programe may be Penny thought you knew more than you do Get Neil to Help out
Wed Nov 26 16:53:32 2008

David
Donna your dream about the celler and water how long have you been getting those dreams If we are to follow Robert the Bruce remember the story of Robert and the spider that was set in a cave.has penny set the next clue and you are dreaming about the place and remember the story of the spider IF AT FIRST YOU DON,T SUCCEED TRY TRY AGAIN
Wed Nov 26 16:47:25 2008

Susanna-Ruth
cool! ive just registered! ill get my twin to do it too when she gets back home. im not sure what you mean by ESP but i can tell you that my twin (Sarah) and i have also considered being telapathic once or twice. we were playing a game of i spy in the car, when sarah said there was 4 words i started to think and in a few seconds i said trees with no leaves which was correct! i guess thats sort of telepathic gtg bye
Wed Nov 26 16:44:08 2008

Cat
penny get in touch with donna and get her out of her misary ! please ! its not fair for her and you are makeing it worse ! What do you think ?
Wed Nov 26 16:18:15 2008

Claire@BBC
Donna - I've commandeered a BBC Alba colleague here, and the message from FOF means 'follow the Stone of Destiny' (apparently Lia-fail is an old name for the Stone). I have no idea how this fits with the aliens though, or what FOF means... Flying over Falkirk?
Wed Nov 26 12:21:30 2008

sophie
penny get in touch with donna and put her out of her misery. you are doing all our heads in.
Tue Nov 25 23:19:32 2008

Reply from Donna
So another message from the FOF! - lean an Lia-fail - Can anyone get a translation to me of it. Hi David thanks for your ideas. Bonnybridge keeps coming up on the board as having big links to UFOs but all that activity seems to have been some time ago. Does anyone know when the most recent sighting was? Is there an expert I should be hearing from? So far there's nothing more from Brian Beattie . Hi Bambi thanks for your thoughts. I feel better this evening - just hope I can get a decent sleep tonight. Hey Sussanna-Ruth don't you make me laugh. Yeah the logo does have that "spend a penny" look about it! The idea came from the sign Penny is holding in the first batch of polaroids - see the photographs clue gallery. Hey why don't you and you twin register for Lost Penny and see if we can become friends. Sussanna-Ruth do you think it's possible for twins to be connected in thought and feeling. sort of ESP. Have you or your twin had any experience of that? If you would prefer not to use the board let me know what you've experienced by email. Well done with the poetry by the way - maybe you could write a poem about being a twin! xxx Donna
Tue Nov 25 19:47:07 2008

Susanna-Ruth
hey! im a twin too!i was thinking... the alien and the space saucers could be a sign to go to a space centre or something like that. i know this is silly but the girl on the packet with the flying saucers in it is a bit like the female sign you get on the door of the ladies bathrooms. also the flying sucers might represnt food!!just a suggestioni got my badge today!!!!i was in a poetry compotition and i got other prizes aswell as the badge. cool logo!Susanna-Ruth
Tue Nov 25 19:00:07 2008

Bambi
Donna, look on the bright side of things. All this could lead to you finding your twin sister!
Tue Nov 25 17:23:01 2008

FOF
Donna - lean an Lia-fail.
Tue Nov 25 16:43:22 2008

David
If what you suggest to be true Donna that Penny is leaving clues around the programe then the only link I can find is Bannockburn It is close to Bonnybridge ,Torwood The Famouse Battle of Robert the Bruce Bonnybrigde is the UFO Capital of Scotland there is a statue at Bannockburn Also if Penny is leaving clues around the programme then maybe she has a insider in the BBC Friend or foe
Tue Nov 25 13:20:12 2008

David
We need to get this solved and move closer to Penny Donna she wants you to go on a road of discovery Look at that book it must have something in it you missed the book is important .Penny is not doing this to punish you she has had a diffrent upbringing and you need to discover yourself .I belive Penny was brought up in the isles may not speak English well may speak Galiec Loves the outdoors knows a lot about Scottish history.The more you move forward in this quest the more like all helping you you will dicover about Scottish History Enjoy the Days out it will all fall into place with the help of all your Friend
Tue Nov 25 13:04:37 2008

David
Dont worry about the Alien and what it had in its mouth it would have been a ciggarete of some sort if you know what I mean this has nothing to do with the clue
Mon Nov 24 22:27:14 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi AngelA I'm not sure about him. Why does everyone have to be so mysterious? If he knows Penny or if he thinks he knows what's going on why doesn't he say just tell me?! I'm getting really stressed with all this and I don't think it helps when people just drop into my life and expect me to back of something so important to me. I can't find any Councillor in the highlands called Brian Beattie/Beatty. I did find a Brian Beattie linked to UFO site - http://home.online.no/~arthujul/ufovideos.htm - but I don't know if it's the same guy. Hi Bambi, sorry about not getting back to you. Hector was a historian now long dead. Read Angela's post on the board from Mon Nov 17 21:38:48 2008. Hi Sandra, I might well smash the thing. It's got a hole in the top but nothing in it. I hate its grin!
Mon Nov 24 20:28:28 2008

AngelA
Stop !...what? breathing, thinking, learning history ?!Joking aside, try and meet or talk with Brian and get a clear understanding of what is causing him to be so categoric in telling you to stop. This lady is not for stopping ;-)
Mon Nov 24 20:24:42 2008

Bambi
So who is Hector Boece?
Mon Nov 24 18:42:04 2008

Bambi
I have had a look on the Internet about UFO sightings in the Firth of Forth which might stand for FOF and this is what I found: UFO sightings over Forth no dream for bar boss Derek. Another mysterious flying object has been spotted in the night skies over Edinburgh. The blazing circle of light - with a strange spiral effect in the middle - was captured hovering above the river Forth by a video camera. It emerged just days after another amateur photographer spotted bizarre images in pictures he took from exactly the same spot at Calton Hill. And today UFO experts said they believe the latest incident is a classic UFO sighting - and revealed that Edinburgh and Fife skies have become a hotspot for mysterious sightings. In the latest incident, bar manager Derek Davies was videoing the night skies over the Firth of Forth with his camcorder when the static circles of light caught his eye. ”I couldn’t believe it when I focused on this large bright light in the sky over the river. It hovered there for a few seconds and suddenly disappeared”, said Derek, 26. “I waited until a plane came over and then filmed that. It was obviously a plane, the other light wasn’t....I would be happy if someone told me it was just a helicopter, but it just didn’t seem like it.” I hope this helps a bit!
Mon Nov 24 18:21:37 2008

tony
If this is the same Brian Beattie that was a councillor in Highlands.. yes. He was also something to do with Eden Court theatre and the Arts - so he could be making it all up. Dont know how useful this message is.
Mon Nov 24 17:00:59 2008

sophie
Whaaaat I only went away one weekend and now its all aliens and some guy saying stop!! I haven't watched back so will need to catch up a bit. Sorry Donna can't help today at all.
Mon Nov 24 14:29:32 2008

Sandra
Is there any significance to the number of flying saucers? 7? Is it my imagination or is there a nail in the teeth of the alien? Can you smash the alien, there may be something inside. Or is there anything inside the flying saucers other than sherbit?
Mon Nov 24 00:53:39 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Tony good to have you back. Thanks for the ideas! I love the way you think out of the box! Do any of you know this Brian Beatty guy? I don't know how seriously to take him? I can't just drop everything on his say so can I? What sort of research is he talking about? AngelA I was just thinking out loud. I've no idea if finding out where the alien came from would be important or not. To be honest I just don't know what the flying saucer sweets and the alien are meant to mean to me. There are no markings on it that I can see. But it had something in it's mouth at one time that's been broken off. Sorry. The truth is the penny just hasn't dropped yet Penny! Get in touch again soon.
Sun Nov 23 20:41:12 2008

tony
lateral thinking: aliens remind me of Dr Who= David Tennant. The Dairy book was by Neil Tennant- are we heading for a brewery /T-in-the Park etc?
Sun Nov 23 20:34:13 2008

AngelA
Note all the interesting finds so far, but wondered why you suggest, Donna, that we "try to find where the alien head was made"!Why do you think that is the direction to follow ? Are there any markings anywhere on the head that would give us a clue?
Sun Nov 23 17:13:59 2008

tony
at last, back on the trail. No consolation now, but I knew Dunadd, the only Hector I knew was Boece and I did suggest Bad rock Scone was the one. I didnt know about the Bell. Last time we went to Scone as a family they wanted to charge a fortune, including the dog, so we drove out again. Has anyone solved FOF yet? I mentioned 42 entries on Google including friend of family... Just thought , what about Firth of Forth?Aliens??? Does ET suggest anything? or have you had any more 'Close Encounters' with your stranger, Donna? Never liked the outer coating, but did like the sherbet in the spaceships.
Sun Nov 23 14:11:13 2008

Donna
Hi Toby J - What is the crystal skull in Edinburgh? Sounds very strange. I'm not sure about all this UFO stuff David. You seem to be up on it all though so let's keep in touch. There are a few Davids registered as friends are you one of them? If you feel like it drop my an email to join or let me know which David you are.
Sun Nov 23 13:08:30 2008

Toby J.
The grinning head reminds me of two things. #1 the Crystal Skull on displayin Edinburgh this Sunday and #2 The cast of the skull of Robert the Bruce.Also a quick Google search revealed a site where you can buy Flying Saucer sweets. They are described as "the ultimate penny sweet". Coincidence ?
Sat Nov 22 23:11:44 2008

David
Part of the "Falkirk Triangle", whose other two points are formed by Stirling and Fife, Bonnybridge averages 300 sightings a year and more than one in three residents claims to have seen something unexpected in the night skies there. Stirling Battle of Bannockburn Dunferline where Bruces Remains are suppost to be What does everyone think
Sat Nov 22 16:42:34 2008

David
Just wondering was it the tree I mentioned that the Bell was hanging on to
Sat Nov 22 16:25:03 2008

David
Scotland is the ufo capital of the world what we need to do is tie this in with Scotish history and Penny .Where is the most sightings of UFO Falkirk Bonnybridge Stirling Bannockburn Robert the Bruce .WHERE IS Penny leading us
Sat Nov 22 16:23:29 2008

David
The Alien Act was a law passed by the Parliament of England, in 1705, as a response to the Parliament of Scotland's Act of Security of 1704, which in turn was partially a response to the English Act of Settlement 1701.The Alien Act provided that Scottish nationals in England were to be treated as aliens (foreign nationals), and estates held by Scots would be treated as alien property, making inheritance much less certain. It also included an embargo on the import of Scottish products into England and English colonies - about half of Scotland's trade, covering sectors such as linen, cattle and coal. The Act contained a provision that it would be suspended if the Scots entered into negotiations regarding a proposed union of the parliaments of Scotland and England. Combined with English financial offers to refund Scottish losses on the Darian scheme, the Act achieved its aim, leading to the Act of Union 1707 uniting the two countries as the Kingdom of Great Britain.
Sat Nov 22 16:15:18 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Bambi, Sorry I had a dance rehearsal this morning and just got back in. Remember there was an index card that fell out of the book Penny left for me at the B&B at Dunadd? On one side it had a lot of odd phrases and on the other lots of numbers and the phrase "Errors of Hector". You can find them in the photographs clues gallery. Then another card was sent to me with the FOF disc. That card was just like you said - like a hangman game and you were right about it being a word grid. Then it was thanks to Graham, Admiral and Iain who worked out what all the anagram messages meant. Google Book Search Advance Book Search Full View Only. You had to go to Google Book Search click on Advance Book Search then in that menu click on Full View Only. Iain found that if you did a search for "Errors of Hector" using the exact phrase box you ended up at a single book called Sconiana. When you click on that you get through to the text with errors of Hector in it. Iain's wife worked out that the funny numbers on the 02 index card related to two things. The first number, before the decimal point, which was always 1 or 2 referred to the lines of the paragraph. The second number after the decimal point referred to the number of letters on that line that you had to count from right to left to allow you to build up the coded phrase which turned out to be: In the tree under the bell. Dead simple ehhh? Now we're stuck with a little green man and space ship sweeties! Hi Tony - So sorry I don't know what is going on. What browser are you using? Earth calling AngelA - Earth calling AngelA. Having had a good look at the alien I think this is more to do with what's been smoked than crop circles - check out his eyes! More of a spaced out man than spaceship! Well done on the Boece spot on girl. Welcome back Raymond - could be you're right. I hadn't thought about FOF being a place - I just assumed it would be an organisation. Have you seen Bambi's amazing list? Could be anything! LOL xxx Donna
Sat Nov 22 14:55:16 2008

Bambi
FOF =Forever one family?Friend of family?Friend or Foe?Finger of fudge? Hahaha :)
Sat Nov 22 10:54:59 2008

Bambi
Maybe Hector is something to do with something in space like a rocket or something. And that is maybe why she is giving you flying saucers.
Sat Nov 22 10:42:50 2008

Tony
Whats happening. It's now 22nd Nov and the photo gallery has gone back to 17th! Yesterday could view 18, 19th but not 20th. Still cant view 20th... if you are lost, then so am I.
Sat Nov 22 10:39:20 2008

AngelA
...another location where a crop circle appeared seems to be at Luthrie NE Fife near Dundee on 14th August 2005.I'm homing in on crop circles, because one theory is that they are the traces left after a space ship or "flying saucer" has visited the area.
Sat Nov 22 09:58:10 2008

AngelA
..near the church at West Flisk, Fife the crop circle appeared on 5th August 2006...! Never heard that news at the time.
Sat Nov 22 09:48:54 2008

AngelA
Found on Star Nation Gallery web site that there was a crop circle in the shape of a "starglyph" which appeared in Fife, Scotland.Spacemen in Scotland...I know a good few "spaced men" in Scotland ;-)
Sat Nov 22 09:43:09 2008

AngelA
This just gets better and better ;-)...space ships and green aliens !So where were there reported sightings of aliens landing in Scotland - any crop circles in Angus ? Good to see that Hector Boece was indeed our man making the "errors". I'd got that sussed and was pretty sure of it.Also suspected that the code was either versus and lines or related to the text we'd find.I'm rubbish at crosswords, so good job we have some wizzards at that stuff on the team. This is fun and adictive...had meetings for the last two days and had to control the urge to make up an excuse to step out and check for news or progress ;-)
Sat Nov 22 09:32:27 2008

Raymond
Hi Donna, great to see you're making some progress! I just thought that maybe FOF = "Firth of Forth". Any historical sites along the FOF? Dunfermline is nearby and was historically the de facto capital of Scotland. And did I hear Jim@BBC say something about Stirling...?
Sat Nov 22 06:05:31 2008

Bambi
Sorry Sophie I didn't realize you had already mentioned that FOF could stand for friend of family.
Fri Nov 21 19:58:09 2008

Bambi
Maybe FOF stands for friend of family because Penny is your twin and maybe thats her friend that is filming you. Just an idea though.
Fri Nov 21 19:53:27 2008

Bambi
Donna I'm confused!Where is everyone getting a bell under a tree from?
Fri Nov 21 19:47:41 2008

Reply from Donna.
Hey David - you were up late! Thanks for the info on the Douglas fir. Going to try and get away by ten. Simone has got a new car and is looking for any excuse to go anywhere so we've left Neil to look after the site today - the girls have hit the road - watched over by the F.O.F of course! So creepy. I was up late too looking through Sconiana on google books for any reference to a bell or bells. I didn't have to read it all even though it's quite short because I noticed you can word search the whole thing - so cool. Didn't have any reference to a bell though. Do you know much about the stone of destiny? Well this book calls it "the fatal stone". Nice old pictures too. AngelA you're going to love it - right up your street. Got to go - let you know what we find asap. xxx
Fri Nov 21 09:35:02 2008

David
The grounds are home to a very special Douglas Fir. This was raised from the original seed sent home by David Douglas from America in 1826. David Douglas was born at Scone and worked as an under-gardener before gaining fame as a plant explorer and collector for the Royal Horticultural Society. A pavilion dedicated to the Scottish plant hunters has now been constructed. This is the only tree mentioned on any web site for Scone
Fri Nov 21 01:00:50 2008

George
I have tried the approach Admiral suggests: that is gone to google book search, clicked on advance search, then full view only - then entered "errors of hector". That takes you to Troilus and Cressida by William Shakespeare. I am new to the board so still hunting back through the previous clues to know what to do next. Is this any help Donna? I am most sorry for your plight.
Thu Nov 20 21:44:49 2008

baaeerum
you move girl!
Thu Nov 20 21:43:18 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Tony - sorry your having problems. Go to photographs on the menu bar that should take you to the gallery and then go to clues and picture 15 should be there. The calendar is only the archive for the video blogs. I haven't posted a video today so that's why it's still red. Hope to have something up before midnight about the index card message.I don't know why the comments board have not refreshed for you since the 17th. I'll check with someone technical in the morning and get back to you. Got to go and count letters.
Thu Nov 20 21:27:52 2008

tony
what's happening? e-mail 19th Nov told me to look at pic 15. Todays calendar has 20th in red and wont open and there is no pic 15 in the gallery. The comments havent been updated since the 17th. Only trying to help, Donna
Thu Nov 20 21:27:40 2008

Ecstatic reply from Donna!
Iain you are a star and your wife is very very very very clever tooo! I don't think you're registered on the site cause we only have an Ian and you're an Iain. Is your wife registered? Please do register so I can shower you with gold stars on our friends page!! But what about the rest of the message? That was a bit sly. I'm away to work it out now. If anybody else has it then email it to me at: lostpenny@bbc.co.uk. As ever the comment board is too slow tonight and I want to break the news in my video blog before midnight. XXX and big hugs too you all - espec' Graham, Sophie, Bambi and AngelA. Tany@bbc I just got your email too - you were bang on track. xxxx
Thu Nov 20 20:52:49 2008

Bambi
On the second anagram I can only really find two words which are read and book.
Thu Nov 20 20:30:41 2008

Iain
Hi so here it is Donna - great dance moves by the way. Admiral is right! Line two is: Advance book search. Line three is: Full View Only. Both these phrases are menu settings for Google Book Search. I used those settings and searched for the "The Dairy Book of Home Management". I couldn't get anywhere with that as it has a restricted view in google books. So I tried "Errors of Hector" as a boolean search and got a listing for a single book about Scone! When you select that book you get straight through to the page with the phrase "Errors of Hector" on it. My wife figured out that the numbers on index card 2 related to lines and letters in that bit of text - shared thunder! So 1.01 is first line and first letter - which is "I". 2.04 is second line and fourth letter - which is "N". This gives us the first word as "In". Okay wake up everyone I'm almost finished. Donna - I'll let you have the fun of working out the rest. Tip - use the zoom in tool to make counting the letters easier! Enjoy.
Thu Nov 20 20:11:22 2008

Bambi
I don't think any of the FOF things I sent are going to help at all! Ha Ha Ha Ha! xxx
Thu Nov 20 19:59:24 2008

Baggy
Donna I AM SCARED!!!
Thu Nov 20 19:40:50 2008

Bambi
Really cool badges Donna!
Thu Nov 20 18:09:40 2008

Bambi
I searched FOF on google and this came up:FOF Fund of Funds (umbrella fund)FOF Focus on the Family (religious organization)FOF Frets On Fire (game)FOF Feast of FoolsFOF Front Office Football (computer game)FOF Friend or FoeFOF Friend or Foe (game show)FOF Fact or FictionFOF Force-On-ForceFOF Flow of FundsFOF Finding of FactFOF Fistful of Frags (Half-Life 2 mod)FOF Forum of Firms (accounting)FOF Flights of FantasyFOF Feet Of Flames (show)FOF Field Of FireFOF Folkeligt Oplysningsforbund (Danish: National Information Union)FOF Fear Of FailureFOF Filet-O-Fish (McDonalds sandwich)FOF Field Of FlowersFOF Fix On FailureFOF File of Files (term used with CVS source control difference comparison)FOF Faith on Fire (Camporee)FOF Follow On ForcesFOF Fact of FilingFOF Found on FloorFoF Focus on FundamentalsFOF Friends of Foamy (cartoon)FOF Fuel Oil FlowFOF Future Officers Fellowship (Salvation Army)FoF Fast Old Farts (female and male racers over the age of 40)FOF Full of Fail (gaming)FOF Friend on FacebookFOF Finger of FudgeFOF Fixed Operating FrequencyFOF Friends of FoxFOF Full on FiltersFOF Finance Office of the FutureFOF Fretz on FireFOF Friend of FamilyFOF Fund Our Future (National Apartment Association Political Action Committee)FOF Function d'Onde FormantiqueSorry the message is so long xx
Thu Nov 20 18:08:21 2008

Admiral
I *think* the solutions to the anagrams 2 and 3 are:ADVANCE BOOK SEARCH and FULL VIEW ONLY. Which are settings for Google Book Search. So I guess do that with the book in the pictures??
Thu Nov 20 18:03:13 2008

Bambi
Nothing went into spam and I got the picture its good! Thanks xxx
Thu Nov 20 17:34:56 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Fawneboo I didn't know that about David Wilkie but I'm not sure what you mean about being relevant? Have you a theory you can share? Come on Sophie you were the first to suggest these were anagrams so don't go all clueless now! AngelA you are fantastic and have made us all think a lot about.... stuff. That has to be good keep it up! xxx
Thu Nov 20 01:28:30 2008

AngelA
with the letters of the 3rd line, I've made 3 x 4-letter words...WILL, FOUL and ENVY !..will keep trying ;-)
Wed Nov 19 23:41:05 2008

sophie
donna happy birthday you are a sweetie i'm just so sorry i can't even begin to help. Am completely lost. i had a weird thought though. what if one of us is your dad or the bloke giving messages. i mean one of the people on the message board?
Wed Nov 19 20:37:38 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Bambi I just don't know about the household book. Maybe the pages the index card was placed in would have revealed something but the card fell out so I just don't know about that. By the way did you like the photo image we sent? Maybe check your spam mail to make sure it didn't end up there. We've been sending out a few emails recently with attachments so that's maybe good advice for all of you to check your spam for Lost Penny and click us through.Graham how you doing?
Wed Nov 19 19:32:21 2008

AngelA
Chuffed that Claire and Graham have broken the deadlock thanks to Bambi's seemingly innocent comment about hangman, while some of us are off complicating things with wild searches (like me!). I am having a blast though searching google and stumbling into all kinds of facinating articles. In fact, yes, I used Google book search to find the digitalised 16th Century translation of "The Chronicles of Scotland". The language is a bit weird,old Scots, but you can just about get the jist. I want a copy for Christmas !...but will now try to focus hard on what matters, the anagrams.
Wed Nov 19 19:13:19 2008

Bambi
I think this bit is all very confusing and I am still trying to figure out why she sent you that household book. Or have you all found it out and I just don't know. I am confused!
Wed Nov 19 17:50:42 2008

Bambi
Im glad I got the right day! Donna, did you get the other image i sent you?
Wed Nov 19 17:28:05 2008

Donna
Google says that Google Book Search allows you to Search and preview millions of books from libraries and publishers worldwide using Google Book Search. Discover a new favorite or unearth an old classic.books.google.com/ - Similar pages - Do you guys use it?
Wed Nov 19 15:58:54 2008

Reply from donna
Yes yes yes! Come on Graham go go go! This is it - just a matter of time now. Come on you crossword freaks get cracking. xxx
Wed Nov 19 12:39:50 2008

Graham
think the first anagram is "Google book search". Working on the others over lunch. Tried to get this done for your birthday donna but had to go out. Sorry.
Wed Nov 19 12:38:26 2008

fawneboo
Donna, according to the main history site you share a birthday with Sir David Wilkie the Scottish painter. mean anything?
Tue Nov 18 21:00:29 2008

David
Happy birthday Donna Glad you are Home safe we will get this worked out.
Tue Nov 18 20:46:37 2008

Reply from Donna
Hey thanks for all the birthday bests! Bambi you got the right day - I'm 18 today and so glad i came home. I've just found out that Claire@bbc, Simone@bbc and Patricia@bbc have been working on the anagrams since about 4.00pm as a birthday surprise for me. Trouble is they've also been working their way through a box - oh yes i said a box of white wine! What a mess - giggles everywhere. Some of the anagram solutions they've come up with would even make Russell Brand blush (well maybe not.) Hope you guys have more luck. I need to make some coffee urgently. Catch you in the morning. Oh, by the way, if you do crack the anagrams can you send your solutions to the lost penny email. The comment board is running really slow tonight so best you send to both. night! oh and if you're still watching then Hi to all you creeps at the F.O.F!
Tue Nov 18 20:08:19 2008

Deep Thinker
i think this is something you will never forget! trust me. i think the man who took the surveillance is possibly the same man who gave you the photos. The promise to protect Penny means he is possibly mistaking you for Penny. Or penny is lost and he needs your help to find her.
Tue Nov 18 20:00:03 2008

Bambi
Hi Donna!Happy Birthday..... Yesterday!
Tue Nov 18 18:53:39 2008

Richard@BBC
Happy birthday, Donna! Have a great time - while I try to figure out this anagram... you're right the letters do seem to fit...I am relieved that FOF seems benevolent - despite his scary voice.Hope you're having a good day.
Tue Nov 18 16:01:42 2008

Simone@BBC
Well Donna... We just might!! ;) but that would be telling! For now... have a big birthday hug from me! :))))) mwah! See ya very sooooon X
Tue Nov 18 15:15:25 2008

Natalie
Hi Donna,I wish you a Happy 18th Birthday! Try not to worry about it all today and take your mind off everything.Have a super day!xxx
Tue Nov 18 14:25:58 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi AngelA - Wo! where are you getting all this stuff? So this stone is from Egypt and the Scots are named after an Egyptian princess! I must have slept through that class - I never knew any of that. I'll have a look at plotting the journey of the stone on the map. Have you seen the message from Claire@bbc? I really think she is on to something. Looking through the messages I think it was Sophie who suggested anagrams might be the way forward. Neil@bbc has put the index card 03 up in the photo clue gallery with the words on it to show us what Claire@bbc is getting at.Tony you are a real heat seeker - where did you get the idea that the numbers might relate to cancer risk? What's the name of the site? I found a black triangle link but it was all about UFO's. Heck! It's swell to be back! Keep it coming Tony. Hi Bambi - I think Walt might not like us using his famous deer on our site without permission. Have you another image? Nobody has sent us a drawing yet - you could be the first! Hey your hangman idea was what got Claire@bbc going so there is a star waiting for you when we get you up on the friends page. Thanks for all the birthday wishes - I'm officially a "big person" now so looking forward to doing "big people" stuff! I think Simone@bbc and Patricia@bbc are cooking something up!
Tue Nov 18 13:35:47 2008

Claire@BBC
Happy birthday Donna! I'm so glad you got the translation. I've noticed that the dashes on the third card correpsond to the number of letters of the clues on the first card... I obviously have too much time on my hands! Looks like an anagram though - check it out!!
Tue Nov 18 10:54:50 2008

Graham
Happy Birthday to you!Happy Birthday to you!Happy Birthday dear DonnaHappy Birthday to you!
Tue Nov 18 01:33:52 2008

AngelA
If this is your destiny, face it head on, Donna. Look the beast straight in the eye, take your courage in one hand and an imaginary battle sword in the other and...ch-A-A-A-A-R-G-E !Happy 18th Birthday ;-)
Mon Nov 17 22:45:30 2008

tony
OK found the last photos of DVD etc , which didnt load earlier. Have just found 42 acronyms for F.O.F'Friend on Facebook' is just one, or 'Friend of Family'
Mon Nov 17 22:16:47 2008

tony
Errors of Hector: this is a bit spooky..see website=Black Triangle came up with the following statistics:"We found that the relative risk of leukaemia was 1.69 (95% confidence interval 1.13 to 2.53) for children whose home address at birth was within 200 m of a high voltage power line compared with those more than 600 m from the nearest line. For 200-600 m the relative risk was 1.23 (1.02 to 1.49). The finding that the increased leukaemia risk apparently extends so far from the line is surprising in view of the very low level of magnetic field that could be produced by power lines at these distances" Some of these figures are identical to the clue, but I cant see a connection. Where did you get the letters FOF on DVD from... never saw them.
Mon Nov 17 22:02:55 2008

AngelA
..more on Hector Boece and his erronious or fanciful "Chronicles of Scotland" ;-)"BOECE, HECTOR 1465?–1536?, Scottish historian. He studied at the Univ. of Paris, where he knew Erasmus, and in 1498 he went to Aberdeen as the first principal of the new university. The most important of his works is a Latin history of Scotland (1527); it is a vast collection of historical fables from medieval chronicles, generously sprinkled with myths and miracles. Despite its shortcomings it was held in high repute until the 18th cent. "So, Hector blended fact and fable...there are factual errors to his "fanciful" chronicles. What are they?
Mon Nov 17 21:38:48 2008

AngelA
"Hector Boece (or Boethius): born at Dundee, Scotland, c1465; historian and humanist; educated at Dundee and the University of Paris wrote (The History and Chronicles of Scotland), 1527; the work, based on legendary sources, glorified the Scottish nation.."Is this our Hector? What errors did he make in his account of Scottish history ? Trying to find a copy of this, maybe the coded numbers are chapters and versus of his text...or maybe I'm off at a tangent!
Mon Nov 17 21:21:14 2008

Bambi
Donna, what was wrong with the photo I sent you? Sorry if it is a hassle trying to get it sorted.
Mon Nov 17 21:18:57 2008

AngelA
Found this !"The Chronicles of Scotland , Hector Boece (translated into Scottishby John Bellenden, 1531) tells us -- Gathelus, the ancestor of theScots who came to Egypt when "in this tyme rang [reigned] in EgyptPharo ye scurge of ye pepill of Israel" was given Scota to wife(Scota was the daughter of a Pharoah). "Lang tyme he landit in ane part of Spayne callit Lusitan" (later called Portugal). After this, he built the city of Brigance and "callit his ubdittis [subjects]Scottis in honour and affeccioun of his wyiff." With peace,Gathelus "sittand in his chayr of merbel within his citie.""Ancient Irish records, when referencing an "Eastern king'sdaugther", also mention an old man, a partriarch and prophetcalled "Ollam Fodhla" (Hebrew words that mean "revealer"or "prophet") and his scribe "Simon Brug" according to various spellings. Reportedly, they carried with them many ancient relics. Among these were a harp, an ark orc hest, and a stone called, in Gaelic, Lia-Fail, meaning Stone of Destiny.So, a Hector (but is it THE Hector?) wrote the "Chronicles of Scotland". Scota was an Egyptian Pharoah's daughter. The Stone of Destiny travelled from Egypt to Portugal and then to Ireland before arriving in Scotland..Must be missing something. How is any of this relevant to helping Donna find Penny? How does it tie in with the score cards and codes?And the translation...had hoped for some clues or answers.
Mon Nov 17 20:43:02 2008

Lesley
Hi Donna, a good friend of mine from South Uist, Colin, translated your video. I hope this progesses your search for Penny. Good luck and here it is:-Donna, take it easy and be sure we are always near you. Be sure that we're keeping an eye on you at all times. We will always be ready to act immediately to keep you safe. We know you are concerned about the advice that's been given to you. There are things that are clouded/misty/unclear, but know this Donna, the road would have to melt and .....(sound becomes unclear at this point and was difficult to understand the last few words)However, I do hope this helps.
Mon Nov 17 19:02:51 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Tony, Sorry about that we had some problem with the picture gallery but it's sorted now and the 3rd index card clue is in the clue gallery now.
Mon Nov 17 14:46:52 2008

tony
'bad rock scone' seems too obvious? The rock at Scone is not the original, so perhaps is 'bad'?There was some reference to anagrams and card 3 but I cant find it on the site.
Sun Nov 16 22:09:13 2008

Paul
what were you posting in the mail box? if it was a card or something then maybe the person who filmed you knew you would be there?
Sun Nov 16 21:46:31 2008

sophie
that is so CREEPY i'm so sorry donna i don't speak the gaelic but i do know (because my boyfriend knows about stuff like this) - that the voice you heard has been treated by pitch shifting it down - maybe 3 semi tones? You should get the people at the bbc to pitch it back up and you would get at least the sound of the real voice to know if you recognise it.
Sun Nov 16 21:39:20 2008

Bambi
The bit of paper with the lines and forward slashes looks like what you would use to play hangman.
Sun Nov 16 20:19:44 2008

Reply from Donna
Sorry these replies are so delayed but I hope you will all understand I got quite a fright last Thursday - it's taken me a while to calm down. The 3rd index card clue got a bit lost in all the excitement. Neil had technical problems getting it into the picture gallery but hopefully it should be there now. It has to be some kind of word frame doesn't it? F.O.F means nothing to me -could be anything. AngelA thinks Friend or Foe? Thanks for Filet O Fish, Sophie! You make me laugh which is good - so you get another star. The ghost was just weird picture of me and one of the actors I met working this summer. Hey I was on telly this morning! I forgot the Victorians programme started this morning and I had a bit part in the first episode. Bet you all missed it but Neil is going to try and get the clip up on the site to embarrass me. David I think the book has to be tied in some how. Maybe if I'd found the index card in the book and seen what pages it was in we would be further on with this but it dropped out in the car. Hi Bambi, will try and get your profile up tonight I was a bit worried about the copyright on your profile picture but think we can sort that. Is the the supercomputer an angle that is worth following? What do the rest of you think? Hi Claire and Richard, I've really struggled to remember what day that film of me was taken. I was posting a birthday card to a friend so I'm sure it was the end of October. And you're right I should see the person filming - I look right at them - but if I did see them it didn't register with me. Claire, I think the police have now got a translation of the voice on the DVD but they're keeping it to themselves. If you know someone that could give us a translation then please do - nobody else has got back to us yet. Hi Norma, you're right it was a dreadful day but just as we got to Dunadd the weather seemed to suddenly break for us. Then the cloud and the rain came on again as we left. We were just lucky. AngelA you really think it's to do with this Stone of Destiny! Could I ask everyone to see if they can find any connections between Hector and the the stone? Where did this stone of destiny come from and what does it do? AngelA you rock! I've given you another star. Could the numbers be coordinates? I don't know about that kind of stuff. Thanks everyone keep working at it. I hope to get home soon - I can't stay hidden away for ever.
Sun Nov 16 18:21:25 2008

AngelA
Last "brain dump" - promise!"Errors of Hector", found a report by a US hurricane agency. Hector was also a hurricane and the "errors" were the longitude and latitde cooridinates where their calcluations had badly predicted the path of the "storm"..not sure if the numbers fit with longitude/latitude cooridinates in Scotlnad - is there a geographer in the house?
Sun Nov 16 12:30:36 2008

AngelA
Some random thoughts and questions:Boo= Surprise!Regal ego shock - sacrilegeHave a bad rock scone = Take the fake Stone of DestinyNow live life fully! = ThriveThis takes us now where without the Gaelic translation (don't speak the Gaelic, alas!), but I have to get this lot out of my head in case someone can pick up on it- difficult to brainstorm like this...so here's a "brain dump"...Is there a King who sufered from sacrilege or a challenge to his throne ? Robert the Bruce,if one of my finds on google holds out. The Stone of Destiny, as we know it, is seen as a fake. The "real" one yet to be uncovered from it's hiding place.Stay cool Penny...we are with you all the way ;-)
Sun Nov 16 12:20:25 2008

sophie
Meaning of F.O.F - fillet o fish? ok probably not that just tryng to cheer you up), friend of family (that would be nice it it was that at least you'd know his intentions aren't bad) fear of failure, friend on face book, fuel oil flow?
Sun Nov 16 04:47:13 2008

AngelA
The letters on the DVD, F.O.F.= Fact Or Fiction ?= Friend Or Foe ?= ?what a tease (that's the polite version)...grrrr!
Sat Nov 15 23:53:50 2008

Richard@BBC
Donna, did you see who was filming? It looks as though you look right at the camera. Tell us what you saw. And stay strong, we're going to help you get to the bottom of this.
Fri Nov 14 18:30:05 2008

Claire@BBC
In Learning we sit next to the crowd from De-a-Nis, a Gaelic programme, but they're all away doing stuff for Children in Need! We will try and find a translation soon Donna. In the DVD it looks like you're aware of being filmed, what did you see?
Fri Nov 14 18:15:27 2008

Norma
You certainly were not up Dunadd Hill in Mid-Argyll on Monday because the rain was pouring down here!
Fri Nov 14 17:37:24 2008

sophie
goggled HECToR. The supercomputer seems to model things to do with climatechange and financial markets. Is this a climate change story? does Penny know something about the future of Scotland that we are not being told?
Thu Nov 13 21:58:40 2008

Hami
Hey Donna that old guy could be Penny's guardian or your Dad! But I don't understand why he couldn't have told you where penny is if it is her guardian or Dad! This might sound a bit stupid but there could be a message on a rock because on one of the notes it says have a bad ROCK scone. If this is any use, all the numbers on the note with "errors of hector" they all add up to 28.36. It could be anything though!
Thu Nov 13 21:16:15 2008

Bambi
Donna, how do I set up my profile and please don't send any emails to my hotmail account. Thanks :)
Thu Nov 13 20:26:01 2008

Claire@BBC
Donna the clues on the first card look like crossword clues, or anagrams. Will have a think about them and get back to you. Maybe you'll have to get the first card before trying the second one? x
Thu Nov 13 17:16:31 2008

Bambi
Hi! I have just had a look on the Internet and I have found more information about a super computer in Edinburgh. It says that it is capable of 63 million million calculations a second. I think that might have something to do with the bit of paper that says "Errors of Hector" with all the numbers on it. I hope this helps.
Wed Nov 12 20:25:14 2008

Bambi
Hi Donna! Thanks for registering me! I am really excited about helping you find Penny.
Wed Nov 12 20:16:51 2008

Bambi
The stone of destiny is also in Edinburgh, maybe there's a clue in the room where all the Scottish royal jewels are kept.
Wed Nov 12 19:57:01 2008

Bambi
The super computer Hector is in Edinburgh so why not contact someone there and ask if the numbers mean anything?
Wed Nov 12 19:54:29 2008

David
PET SHOP BOYS / NEIL TENNANT The Dairy Book Of Home Management (Rare 1980 384-page hardback book which credits a young Neil Tennant as the General Editor before going on to work at Smash Hits magazine and finding fame with PSB, this housewife's companion was produced by the Dairy Industry and sold door to door by your local milkman, featuring help and advice on such subjects as Food & Cookery, Home Improvement, Pet Care, Family Occassions and much more.., a unique piece of Pet Shop Boys memorabilia!).This is not a book that a young girl like Penny would have and it is not easy to get This book was used to pass a message.
Wed Nov 12 15:10:49 2008

David
The Code does it have something to do with the Book Page one letter one for example it looks like a message you have to work out using this book.
Wed Nov 12 15:02:25 2008

sophie
i googled hector and scottish history. there are a few historians with that name - i dunno if they've made any mistakes though? hector means it said . . .hang on i'll paste it in . . .Scottish: Anglicized form of the Gaelic personal name Eachann ( brown horse)The classical Greek name, Hektor, is probably a derivative of Greek ekhein ˜to hold back,˜hold in check, hence ˜protector of the city. When you say you think Penny wants you to know something you wouldn't believe if she just told you what do you mean? ANd why is there a picture of a ghost in the gallery.
Wed Nov 12 13:43:25 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Rachel - I think that hole in the card was a punch hole for holding it in a file or file box thingy. It does look a bit key shaped though but I'm not convinced that's going to help us. Thanks though.
Wed Nov 12 12:17:08 2008

Reply from Donna
He Zeena - Ok yes maybe she's a bit shy but why go to all this trouble and mystery. I think she wants me to discover something for myself - maybe something I wouldn't believe if she just told me. Maybe. We have to solve the index card clue.
Wed Nov 12 12:11:38 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Claire and AngelA, both of you are suggesting Scoone/Scone. I'm going to plot them on the map. Any more you can tell me about the stone or rock of destiny? What did it do? It's in Edinburgh now -right?
Wed Nov 12 11:49:39 2008

Reply from Donna
Sophie I'm with you girl 'obtuse' isn't quite the word I used but it will do for polite company. Anagrams are used in cross words aren't they? Anybody out there good at them? Shoes are in the bin ...so sad.
Wed Nov 12 11:49:11 2008

Reply from Donna
Hayley that's more like it. I never thought about the numbers being part of a time table. But times of what? Thanks.
Wed Nov 12 11:47:58 2008

Reply from Donna
Olwen don't just wonder! Check out the index card clue and see if you can work out what it means! thanks.
Wed Nov 12 11:46:52 2008

Reply from Donna
Garry did Somerled have a fort or specific home in Kintyre? Sharp of you to spot the name might mean something - I didn't even notice the B&B was called that.
Wed Nov 12 11:45:47 2008

Reply from Donna
Evie I saw the TV programme nearly fell off my seat when Dunadd came on. Are you making anything of the Index card clue?
Wed Nov 12 11:45:04 2008

Reply from Donna
Ok Muzistar we got the clue – how you doing with it? Let me know.
Wed Nov 12 11:43:56 2008

Reply from Donna
Hi Bambi - really sorry about that. We don't have a record of you - don't know what's going wrong. I suggest you use this comment board to give us your email address (only I will see it and I won't publish it on the board). Anybody else having problems registering?
Wed Nov 12 10:41:05 2008

AngelA
Have wanted to congratulate evie and those who even knew about Dunadd. Thought I had visited much of our country, but have missed out a big and vital bit of our history, it seems, not having been to Dunadd or Iona - shame !.Anyway,I've called on a few mathematicians I know to see if they can make sense of the numbers. Will get back on that or they might. I can't help thinking "bad rock scone" is a distortion of "stone" and "Scoone" (Perth) i.e. the Stone of Destiny. Now in Edinburgh castle, but it was at Scoone originally (?) Was used for "coronations of Scottish Royalty" = "Regal".Hope this triggers some more precise thoughts...
Wed Nov 12 09:39:12 2008

sophie
whaaat? why is penny being so obtuse? i have no clue donna sorry. regal ego shock is an anagram of shoe egal rock. . .yeh i know not much help. what can i say - your shoes were fine btw. hiking boots overated....
Tue Nov 11 23:01:38 2008

zeena
hi donna this is really a mystery case isnt it if your "possible twin" was in a B&B close to you and left a book maybe she already knew about you years ago but maybe she/he thinks its the right time to tell you who you are. maybe you should try and find out where she goes next.maybe she wants you to find out and she also knows or maybe she could be leading you somewhere like mysterious and where only you can see her because maybe she doesent want to be seen with anyone else.MAYBE...
Tue Nov 11 21:14:14 2008

Claire@BBC
Donna - 'rock Scone' sounds like it refers to the Stone of Destiny to me, Scone is where the ancient Scottish kings were crowned and they keep the Stone there. I can't help with the rest yet though - will try and find someone who can!
Tue Nov 11 19:59:29 2008

Bambi
Hi I have registered many times and would love to join the search but you haven't replied.
Tue Nov 11 19:35:43 2008

Rachael
Hi Donna, on the paper with the wired numbers there is a mark, a mark that's been cut. To me it looks a bit like the top of a key shape. Hope this helps!
Tue Nov 11 18:32:32 2008

Hayley
Hi Donna maybe the thing you found in the book is a code or a time table anyway that's what it looks like to me bye Hayley
Tue Nov 11 18:26:38 2008

Craig (CSI Penny)
I have been digesting the clues so far and I am still working on any possible connection etc.I have also been considering the timing of 'pennys' apperance in your life and, why exactly she is trying to reach you. I'll stab an early explanation.Perhaps Penny is a visual representation of yourself albeit a very lucid one. Penny could be a tangable and very real manifestation of your own journey.In your life you have asked yourself, no doubt, who am i really? where did i come from? etc etc. Now seeing 'penny', being left clues, meeting strange people and starting this journey you are, in fact, on a journey to find Donna, not penny. Penny is simply the road to 'Donna', not donna who you think you know but donna the person you want to know more deeply.Nonsense probably but hopefully that will give you something to reflect upon.
Tue Nov 11 17:52:30 2008

Olwen
Hi Donna Love taking part in your quest. I recognised the "King's Stone" of Dunadd as soon as I saw the photograph. I visited the fort last year with my sons and am fascinated by its role in Scotland's history. I've been watching the heritage Scotland programme tonight and have recorded it so I can keep referring back to it - great narration and filming!I'll keep following your blog with interest - wonder where you will be led to next.
Tue Nov 11 12:01:55 2008

Garry
The B&B was called Somerled, he was was a military and political leader of the Scottish Isles in the 12th century . He was first documented as the king of Kintyre...could this be of use, perhaps thats your next destination, although he did become regarded as the King of the Isles later.
Mon Nov 10 23:14:52 2008

evie
Glad you found my identification of Dunadd useful - did you see the carved stone on the TV programme.Thanks to Graham for links to back up my suggestion.I agree wilth Muzicstar- Donna has left you more clues at the fort. Good luck!!!
Sun Nov 9 23:11:42 2008

AngelA
Just watched "A History of Scotland". It's Dunnad alright.The home of the Gaels. Go girl!
Sun Nov 9 22:33:05 2008

Colm
I think the photos are definitely from Dunadd near Kilmartin!
Sun Nov 9 22:09:32 2008

AngelA
Go for it, Donna...I bet Penny has left you the envelope she has in one photo and then no longer has in the next, between the stones. Please do not go alone and let folks at home know where you are going. Things are starting to move. Good luck!
Sun Nov 9 15:53:33 2008

Lyle
Just watched your last blog about the three new photos. Maybe it's Penny that's following you.If it is she might talk to you soon.
Sat Nov 8 10:14:40 2008

Lyle
Hi Donna, Looks a bit like Dumyat near Logie. The rocks look the same. I went up their once for a birthday picnic.
Sat Nov 8 10:00:23 2008

Muzicstar
Why does Penny kneel down holding the card with Donna's name on it...and then in the next shot she no longer has the card even although her position hasn't changed?Has she hidden the card underneath a rock? If so, why? Could this lead to a new clue?
Fri Nov 7 23:22:28 2008

Graham
Evie is right. There are a lot of good pictures on the web. Here's a link to some - check 'em out. You should go there and see for yourself. http://macinnes.org/dunadd.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunadd By the way love the twirls - you can dance girl
Fri Nov 7 22:52:08 2008

Donna
Hi CT, What's so scary.Hi AngelA you seem to know your stuff. If it's volcanic rocks in the photos - does that really narrow down where these pics were taken? rolfe harris? tie me down sport Ha Ha Ha only kidding no AngelA he really sounded weird - maybe David is on to something with the gaelic. Can't make out what it says on the hat David - might be Oakley- does that mean anything to anyone? Hi evie you think Kilmartin? have you any photos of this fort you could link me to or send?
Fri Nov 7 22:21:31 2008

angela
hi, i've missed a few days of this. but it sounds interesting!
Fri Nov 7 22:17:02 2008

CT
OH MY - that is so scary
Fri Nov 7 20:58:14 2008

evie
I'm pretty sure photo 6 shows thecarved stone at Dunadd fort near Kilmartin - an ancient site full of mystery. Could your ancestors be trying to contact you to complete a missing element of their family tree?
Fri Nov 7 17:50:44 2008

AngelA
Hi Donna,The landscpae looks like bits of Scotland. Doesn't look like far North or N.West, too many walls and neat fields, not wild enough, but could be the Pentlands,southern Ayrshire not quite high enough the hills for the Borders. Farm land with old volcanic out-crops...hmmm, possibly the Angus region or further up around Aberdeen...East Coast. Not being too helpful, am I ? Sorry !
Fri Nov 7 08:40:06 2008

AngelaA
See you now have the artist's drawing of the man with the photos ...looks a bit like Rolf Harris ! Did he have an Ozzy accent? !!!
Fri Nov 7 08:27:38 2008

David
ochil hills in central scotland or skye - 01:22:46 Fri Nov 7 2008
Fri Nov 7 01:22:46 2008

David
Hi Donna love a good mystey Some suggestions language he spoke was it galic did he sound Scottish also the photos what does it say on the red hat.
Fri Nov 7 01:14:47 2008

sophie
sorry donna you must be so weirded out. my mum thinks the lost penny photo is in sutherland?
Thu Nov 6 23:53:35 2008

Florence
Hi Donna,Just looked at your blog this morning and sorry can't recognise any of the places in the polaroids. I'm sure that it is possible that you could have a twin sister but who was the guy who gave you the photo? Why would he want you to have it? Good luck Florence
Thu Nov 6 12:22:47 2008

Donna
Hey sophhie don't stress we all put our foot in it sometimes- and i'm not talking gucci. my adoptive parents know nothing about my birth parents -nobody does. i really was found on a door step - check out "about me" video on the wonderboard. Don't be hard on Wise Owl. For a while there i was cracking up.... still might i guess.
Thu Nov 6 10:36:21 2008

sophie
i think it is lovely you really like your adoptive parents - my friend has just adopted a beautiful wee toddler. he is so gorgeous. they are over the moon. i googled 'what not to say to new adoptive parents' and it said don't say 'you're so lucky' to the child. i was so depressed coz that's exactly what i'd said... ANYWAY shoulnd't you tell your parents about photo man. he might be your real dad and if you ask them at least you could rule that out. And mentor wise owl person are you for real donna doesn't even look a little bit sick just worried..
Wed Nov 5 20:56:39 2008

sophie
hi donna you seem much happier. nice . . um . . tiger . . . about the old man - could you remeber any of the sounds of what he said. Maybe we could identify the language if you could repeat a phrase or something. is that you dancing for real? questions questions . . .
Wed Nov 5 20:45:10 2008

sophie
no idea - is it the crags at arthurs seat in edinburgh?
Wed Nov 5 11:42:04 2008

Claire
Absolutely no idea where those pictures have been taken Donna - sorry, but looking forward to being able to help you find your ???twin!
Wed Nov 5 09:10:26 2008

Donna
It's great to see the site up and running. We've had a few problems so apologies to Wise Owl and Tammy. We will get your friend profiles up in the morning. It's passed midnight and so I'm going to try and sleep. Dance class tomorrow! Goodnight
Wed Nov 5 00:49:12 2008

AngelA
Donna is being challenged and forced to step out of her comfort zone.That is always a bit scary.I love journeys where the destination is not clear, or experiences that put you to the test, you learn lots on the way and you grow stronger ...and you build lasting relationships.
Wed Nov 5 00:06:15 2008

Betty
Being a twin myself, I can tell you the feelings you have are completely normal. It's just sad that you have never been able to hold Penny close to you, or even known of her existence. I hope I can help you to be reunited with her!
Tue Nov 4 19:41:16 2008

Simon
Hi Donna, looks interesting!! I've had a look at the polaroids... i've no idea where it is... Ireland perhaps?!? :O
Tue Nov 4 19:12:47 2008

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