Atlantis Reborn Again
BBC2 9.00pm Thursday 14th December 2000
NARRATOR (DILLY BARLOW): There are
many mysteries about the past and how we journeyed from the Stone
Age to civilisation. Now there is a controversial new theory. It
claims that historians have ignored evidence of a lost civilisation
of spectacular sophistication, the key to our past. If true, this
forgotten episode would overturn all our ideas about the origins
GRAHAM HANCOCK (Author): If I'm right and our whole conception of
prehistory is wrong, then the foundations upon which we have built
our idea of what our society is are crumbling.
NARRATOR: Graham Hancock is determined to rewrite history. His books
about the ancient past have sold in their millions, making him a
leading figure in a group of influential and radical authors. Hancock
has a huge following who believe passionately in his controversial
views that civilisation was invented by a god-like people ignored
by orthodox historians.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: It's possible we may have lost from the record an
entire civilisation and I feel that the evidence for this lost episode
in human history is mounting.
NARRATOR: According to orthodox archaeology various Stone Age peoples
slowly evolved complex cultures in different parts of the world.
13,000 years ago groups of hunter/gatherers began to settle and
to farm. Over thousands of years they separately developed writing,
religions and astronomy. Eventually they built the great monuments
of the Ancient World. But not everyone was satisfied with the archaeologists'
explanation. For them there was a tantalising mystery. Ancient people
in far-flung parts of the world, who seemed to have had no contact
with each other, were doing very similar things - building pyramids
and studying the stars. One explanation for these puzzling resemblances
was the enduring myth of Atlantis. The story goes that Atlantis
was the home of an ancient civilisation of astonishing sophistication.
When it was destroyed in a flood its survivors travelled the world
bringing their knowledge to less developed peoples, but the idea
of Atlantis as the cradle of all civilisation was scorned by historians.
DR KEN FEDER (Archaeologist): If Atlantis were true, if there was
one source it would be very easy to test archaeologically and the
evidence would be clear. The fact that it's not clear, the fact
that that kind of evidence is not present is indicative of the fact
that the cultures developed independently and were not derived from
a single source.
NARRATOR: Graham Hancock believes that the idea of Atlantis deserves
a second chance. He does not claim to be a scientist, but he has
used science to revive an old idea. Ten years ago Hancock set out
on a quest. He came back with a radical vision, one that he hoped
would overturn established ideas about the past.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: What we're looking at here is an accumulation of
discordant evidence and information which doesn't quite fit in with
the orthodox picture. Bits and pieces of a jigsaw puzzle that seem
to have been just scattered and thrown all around the world and
yet the feeling that if we can put those pieces together slowly,
methodically, painstakingly they will show us something that we've
forgotten about ourselves, a great civilisation lost in prehistory.
NARRATOR: In his research Hancock became intrigued by the ideas
of writers who have linked ancient monuments with the stars as they
appeared long ago. Since ancient times people have seen shapes in
the stars and they'd given these constellations names like Aries
the Ram, or Orion the Hunter. Different ancient societies saw different
animals and objects in the stars. The patterns of the constellations
don't change, but the precise angle of groups of stars in relation
to the horizon alters over time. It's the result of a process called
precession. The earth spins on its axis every 24 hours, but the
axis has a very slow wobble which lasts 26,000 years. This is precession
and it slowly changes our view of the stars. It means that their
position in the sky is unique to different moments in time. Astronomers
have calculated the slowly changing position of the stars back in
time. Using an astronomical software programme, Hancock made an
intriguing discovery. Some of the wonders of the Ancient World appear
to mirror the stars at a precise moment in the past: 10,500BC. It
was a date that was to assume an extraordinary significance for
GRAHAM HANCOCK: Groups of monuments in Egypt and another large group
of monuments far away in Cambodia are copying constellations in
the sky as they looked, not at the time when those monuments were
constructed, but in a much earlier epoch, the epoch of 10,500BC.
NARRATOR: In other words, if looked at from above, groups of monuments
mirrored the unique position of the stars as they looked at that
crucial moment in the past. For Hancock, the implications were stunning.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: We are looking at the vestiges of an ancient world-wide
religious system, a sky ground religion. The essential thing that
it had to do was to build architectural copies of groups of stars
in the sky and we're looking at the vestiges of that system spread
out around the world.
NARRATOR: Hancock argued that there had indeed been an ancient lost
super-civilisation destroyed 12,000 years ago. Its survivors brought
civilisation to a Stone Age world and a map of the sky as it looked
in 10,500BC. It became a blueprint for future generations around
the world who built monuments to mirror these ancient patterns of
stars. Hancock could revive the old idea of Atlantis with a difference.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: I avoid using the word Atlantis in my books because
most people when they hear the word Atlantis immediately think that
they're dealing with the lunatic fringe. I don't feel that I belong
to a lunatic fringe.
NARRATOR: When Hancock published his theory in 1995 it caused a
sensation. Five million copies were sold around the world. The impact
of his book rivalled the spectacular success of Erich von Däniken's
Chariots of the Gods published in the 1970s. Von Däniken explained
the birth of civilisation as the result of visits from alien astronauts.
Other books by Hancock followed, every one a best-seller. His success
has been crowned by a major television series which reached 10 million
viewers. Hancock is now part of a growing movement of radical, alternative
historians. These writers have become hugely influential. No mainstream
archaeologist ever reaches such a wide audience, but for academics
their ideas are heresy.
KEN FEDER: Certainly one thing that they're doing is selling a lot
of books. There's a long and ignoble history of this sort of thing
and I view it as merely the latest incarnation of somebody obviously
quite fascinated by the past, a populariser of the past, but someone
who doesn't want to adhere to the scientific method.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: It is inevitable that this is a threat to orthodox
views of the past. It can't simply be accepted by a historian that
the whole burden of his work over many, many years is wrong.
NARRATOR: If Hancock and his fellow authors are right, we will have
to rewrite history. The only way to find out if they are is to test
the theory. It is Ancient Egypt that provides most of these writers
with their key evidence, in particular the pyramids built 4,500
years ago on the Giza plateau near modern Cairo.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: According to Egyptologists those pyramids are tombs
and tombs only. They have no other function whatsoever and they
were built to serve as the tombs of three Pharaohs of the 4th dynasty
- Khufu, Khefren and Menkaure - and that's the end of the story
really as far as orthodox Egyptologists are concerned. I think there's
room for a reconsideration of what the pyramids might be and in
order to reconsider that information I think it's very important
that we take astronomy into account.
NARRATOR: There's always been a mystery about the three Giza pyramids.
Looked at from above they form a perfect diagonal, but with the
third, smaller pyramid that is offset. Many have been baffled by
this curious imperfection, but now there is a new explanation. Robert
Bauval is a former engineer. He has developed a controversial theory
about the Giza pyramids and it has a crucial role in the evolution
of Hancock's theories about a lost civilisation. In 1982, on his
way to Cairo airport, Bauval flew over these mysterious wonders
of the Ancient World. There was something about the puzzling layout
of the pyramids that began to obsess him.
ROBERT BAUVAL (Author): Now if you can see you have two large pyramids
which are of almost equal size and along a diagonal line whereas
the third pyramid, the smaller one, of Menkaure, is offset to the
east of this diagonal.
NARRATOR: Bauval had an inspiration. The plan of the three pyramids
reminded him of a constellation - Orion the Hunter. In the middle
of the constellation are the three belt stars. They, too, form a
diagonal line with one star offset. It seemed to be a perfect match
for the pyramids.
ROBERT BAUVAL: I observed that the stars had exactly the same pattern
as the pyramids on the ground. You have two bright stars, or two
large stars if you like, and the third one on the top dimmer and
offset to the east in exactly the same pattern.
NARRATOR: There are, of course, many other stars in Orion, but it
was the three belt stars that led Bauval to make another discovery,
one that linked the pyramids uncannily with that date long in the
past. As a result of precession, the angle of the three stars changes
over time and Bauval found the best fit on one particular date.
ROBERT BAUVAL: So we have a moving sky over a fixed land, the pyramids
on the ground, and when you move that sky in time to fit the patterns
of Orion you get that lock in 10,500BC.
NARRATOR: Hancock was impressed by Bauval's theory and the way it
linked Ancient Egypt with an even more ancient date.
ROBERT BAUVAL: The whole arrangement freezes the time of 10,500BC.
NARRATOR: In his television series Hancock showed how Bauval's idea
works. The pyramids form a precise 45 degree angle with a line running
north/south and the three stars form the same exact angle in the
sky on only one date: 10,500BC. For Hancock, Bauval's findings seemed
like compelling evidence for a lost civilisation.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: I accept Egyptological opinion the great pyramids
were built in 2,500BC. I am not saying that the pyramids were built
earlier than that. What I'm saying is that they were built in 2,500BC
but designed to commemorate architecturally, symbolically and astronomically
an earlier epoch.
NARRATOR: If Bauval and Hancock are right the implications are astounding.
It means that Ancient Egyptian civilisation was inherited from a
lost people unknown to any mainstream historian. One astronomer
took a keen interest in Bauval's theory - Ed Krupp. He quickly became
troubled by Bauval's claims.
DR. ED KRUPP (Griffith Observatory, Los Angeles): When The Orion
Mystery came out my curiosity was naturally aroused. Anybody comes
up with a good idea about ancient astronomy I want to know about
it and in going through the book there was something nagging. In
The Orion Mystery there's a nice double page spread and anybody
looking at this would say ah, Giza pyramids, belt of Orion, one
kind of looks like the other, you know you've got three in a row,
three in a row, slanted, slanted, we've got a map and what I was
bothered by turned out to be really pretty obvious. In the back
of my head I knew that something was wrong with these pictures and
what's wrong with these pictures in their presentation is that north
for the constellation Orion is here at the top of the page. North
for the Giza pyramids is down here. Now they're not marked, but
I knew which way north was at Giza and I knew which way north was
in Orion. To make the map of the pyramids on the ground match the
stars of Orion in the sky you have to turn Egypt upside down and
if you don't want to do that then you've got to turn the sky upside
NARRATOR: But Hancock and Bauval reject Krupp's analysis. They point
out that Orion can only be seen by looking in a southward direction.
ROBERT BAUVAL: So you're looking south of correlation and for the
natural tendency is to draw what you see in that direction and you
would come up with looking at three stars in that pattern and three
dots, or three pyramids, or three marks in the same direction.
NARRATOR: If you choose a time when Orion is at its highest point
in the sky looking south high over the pyramids there is an apparent
match and Bauval and Hancock's view seems convincing.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: There's no other way you can draw them except in
the way that the pyramids lie on the ground today. You can't do
it in any other way. If you're extremely pedantic and believe that
the Ancient Egyptians' priesthood was a group of narrow-minded bureaucrats
determined to follow procedure above all else then it's true that
the northern most star is depicted in the southern most place on
the ground and the southern most star in the northern most place
on the ground and this is what Ed Krupp is getting at, but if you
regard it as a work of symbolic and religious art meant to copy
on the ground what the observer sees in the sky then there's just
no other way you can make it than the way it is made.
NARRATOR: But there's evidence that the Egyptians may well have
seen it another way; perceiving the sky as forming a canopy over
their heads, with north in the sky matching north on the ground,
and the top of Orion thus pointing north. The pyramids are set out
facing precisely north, south, east and west and research suggests
they were aligned using the north polar stars and also there are
shafts built through the north and south sides of the great pyramid
which point directly to stars in the north and south of the sky
indicating that the Egyptians clearly linked directions on the ground
and in the sky.
ED KRUPP: That locks the pyramids north side and south side to the
north side of the sky and the south side of the sky. That means
the Egyptians, in building and laying out the pyramids, said we
know where north is and we care about it because we've incorporated
it into the architecture. The Egyptians were perfectly capable of
drawing the pyramids right if they wanted to. If they wanted Orion's
belt to look like Orion's belt on the ground and match up with the
north and south sides of the pyramid they could have done that.
NARRATOR: But whether or not the Egyptians cared about matching
north and south in the sky and on the ground there are other problems.
There are 13 other stars in Orion. None of them match pyramids.
There are over 75 other pyramids in Egypt and among them all there
are no convincing matches with stars, but Hancock and Bauval still
stand by their theory.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: I don't need every pyramid in Egypt to map a star
in the sky. The people who built these monuments were making a grand
symbolic statement that was supposed to be understood on an intuitive
and spiritual level.
ED KRUPP: It is hard to invest a lot of intellectual effort into
three stars in a row and three pyramids on the ground. That's like
a simple configuration and it's very easy to find three things in
a row and if, if you know there are roughly 81 or so pyramids in
Egypt well yeah if all 81 of 'em mapped the sky perfectly I'd be
impressed, but if three of them mapped the sky sorta I'm not impressed.
NARRATOR: There's more. Astronomer Anthony Fairall has re-examined
that precise 45 degree angle that seemed to link the pyramids with
the belt stars as they were in 10,500BC. Fairall found that the
match was not as precise as originally claimed. The angle formed
by the two large pyramids is 45 degrees, but the angle formed by
the Belt stars is 54. Hancock and Bauval dispute the large size
of Fairall's angle, but accept there is a discrepancy.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: No they're not absolutely correct and I don't care.
I have to stress that in my view the Ancient Egyptian priesthood
was not staffed by anal-retentive bureaucrats. The Ancient Egyptian
priesthood was a group of creative and imaginative thinkers who
were exploring the mystery of life and death and who believed that
there was a connection between ground and sky. They wanted to make
a resemblance on the ground of a particular moment in time.
NARRATOR: There is a simple explanation for the way the pyramids
were laid out along that diagonal line 4,500 years ago and it has
nothing to do with Orion. Kate Spence is an Egyptologist. She's
studied the historical sequence of quarrying and construction on
the Giza plateau in 2,500BC. The interior blocks of the pyramids
were extracted from quarries on the plateau itself. The bases of
the blocks can still be seen today. It turns out that the choices
of the pyramid builders were severely limited by the site they had
chosen to build on.
KATE SPENCE (University of Cambridge): It's entirely possible to
explain the position of the pyramids relative to each other just
through the geology of the site and the nature of the pyramids themselves.
If we look at a map of the pyramids which shows the contour lines
you can actually see it quite clearly. These are the pyramids, the
Khufu pyramid, Khefren and Menkaure and they're built on a ridge
which runs diagonally. The reason they're set obliquely to the ridge
is because they're aligned so carefully towards north, so this is
the first pyramid to be built, the Khufu pyramid and when Khefren
came along to build his he couldn't build it in a straight line
because there's a quarry here and it's very steeply sloping. So
he had to set the pyramid back, for two reasons, both so that it
was on a reasonably high level and also so that he could get a clear
view of north for the alignment, and exactly the same thing happened
when Menkaure came to build his. It's actually set back from the
line of the Khefren pyramid because if you see here the contours
are very close so it's quite steep, so it's set on a level plateau
at about the same height as the Khefren pyramid and with a clear
view towards north.
NARRATOR: It seems clear that as the Egyptian kings built their
monuments across the Giza plateau the decisions they made about
the position of the pyramids were not inspired by a pattern of stars
but were the result of the limitations of the site they chose to
build on. But Graham Hancock's radical theory about the past does
not depend on the Orion theory alone. He claims to have discovered
a global network of ancient monuments, either mapping constellations
on the ground or linked in other ways to the stars. He believes
that they're all based on a 12,000 year-old blueprint of the night
sky. Far from Egypt Hancock has discovered other crucial evidence
in Cambodia, at one of the most extraordinary archaeological sites
in the world: the temples of Angkor Vat. The temples were built
by the Khmer people 3,000 years after the Giza pyramids were built,
but Hancock claims to have found evidence of a more ancient master
GRAHAM HANCOCK: There's a similarity, a very strong similarity between
the pattern of the temples on the ground and the pattern of the
stars in the constellation of Draco, one of the great northern constellations.
Quite simply if you take a map of the temples of Angkor and join
the dots to connect up the different temples you find that you have
drawn out on that map the pattern of the constellation of Draco.
NARRATOR: As Hancock shows in his television series, it does seem
as if the temples at Angkor are a genuine mirror of the stars mapped
out by the lost civilisation, and that wasn't all. The temples of
Angkor also seemed to be connected with that momentous date: 10,500BC
as a result of precession.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: I found extraordinarily that the, that the correlation
becomes as close as possible to perfect only at one date, and that
NARRATOR: In his television series, Hancock refers to the work of
one of the world's leading experts on Angkor, Eleanor Mannikka.
She has spent 20 years surveying and mapping the temples and now
she's examined Hancock's theory in detail.
ELEANOR MANNIKA (University of Michigan): This hypothesis is based
on the fact that certain temples are placed in their position because
they have to follow a pattern that evokes the constellation Draco,
so if we look at this we see the beginning apparently is the head
right here at Angkor Vat and the pattern goes from there up to Phnom
Bakheng which is this enormous central mountain. Then it travels
up here to (TEMPLE NAME) Thom and then it goes over here to (TEMPLE
NAME) and from (TEMPLE NAME) it goes to (TEMPLE NAME). Then it goes
to (TEMPLE NAME), then it goes to (TEMPLE NAME), out here to (TEMPLE
NAME) built in the 12th century. I see a vague resemblance of course
because it goes up and down and off, but actually the tail of Draco
goes way up like this, it doesn't just go off like that.
NARRATOR: When examined closely the actual match between the temples
and the constellation is not at all precise. Does Hancock have an
GRAHAM HANCOCK: There's a rather good correspondence. By no means
you know absolutely spot-on accurate, but a rather good correspondence
between the stars in the sky and the temples on the ground and when
you bear in mind that these temples were constructed across hundreds
of square miles of really very dense jungle, something like 1,000
years ago, when there was no ability for the builders to get above
their subject and check that they were achieving a perfect design,
I think they did a very good job.
NARRATOR: But surveying has never depended on viewing from above.
It's all done by measuring distances and angles on the ground. Mannikka's
investigations show that the Khmers must have been expert surveyors.
Such is the precision of their work that she is convinced that they
could have accurately laid out and built any pattern they wanted,
and there is good evidence which reveals why the Khmers placed the
temples where they did.
ELEANOR MANNIKKA: Certain of these temples within this so-called
constellation here are where they are for very clear-cut historical
reasons referred to in inscriptions, very obvious reasons. For example,
(TEMPLE NAME), which is located here on top of the central hill
at Angkor, had to be the place where the king put his royal temple
because nothing else was so prominent at the site. Up here at (TEMPLE
NAME) there was a very bloody battle around 1190. That's why (TEMPLE
NAME) is here. It couldn't be anywhere else. It had to be here 'cos
the battle was here.
NARRATOR: Mannikka discovered that the position of every one of
the temples included by Hancock can be explained in similarly well
documented ways. Hancock includes only ten temples in the shape
of the constellation Draco, but investigation of the Angkor region
has revealed that there are more than 60 temples. It seems arbitrary
to use so few out of so many. The correlation he has found begins
to look more like coincidence than planning.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: I'm sure that, that there are academics who can
find a dozen reasons why the resemblance of the temples of Angkor
to the pattern of the constellation of Draco is accidental and a
coincidence and can be explained in all sorts of other ways, but
I've put forward my case in as much detail as I can in my work.
I think there is a striking resemblance between the basic pattern
on the ground and the pattern of the constellation in the sky.
NARRATOR: But there is a final problem. Although Hancock believes
the Khmer based their cherished temples on the constellation of
Draco, strangely it is not mentioned in any of their inscriptions.
ELEANOR MANNIKKA: Draco had nothing to do with the culture whatsoever.
I mean there's no reference to the constellation in any inscription,
there's no reference to it whatsoever in any way. No Draco.
NARRATOR: Unfortunately, Ancient Egypt and Cambodia are Hancock's
most important pieces of evidence, that monuments mirror an ancient
blueprint of the stars. His claim seems flawed and Horizon has made
a discovery which further questions his basic theory. It links a
group of unique monuments with a pattern of stars. Here are the
monuments on the ground looking north. The pattern matches one of
the great constellations: Leo the Lion. These are the monuments:
Grand Central Station, the New York Public Library, Macey's, Madison
Square Gardens, the Central Post Office, a theatre, a university,
Times Square, the Rockefeller Centre and a police station. The monuments
are, of course, in Manhattan. The Leo master plan doesn't account
for every Manhattan landmark, but using Hancock's criteria it doesn't
have to. As long as you have enough points and you don't need to
make every point fit, you can find virtually any pattern you want.
But Hancock does offer other kinds of evidence for his theory.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: I'm already convinced about the existence of an
ancient worldwide religious system which must have emanated from
a remote, lost source, but I need to convince others and the best
way to do that is to produce artefacts and evidence that are 12,000
or so years old and which, therefore, fall outside of the framework
of orthodox history.
NARRATOR: There are two far-flung monuments that Hancock claims
were actually built by the people of the lost civilisation. One
is the ancient city of Tiwanaku in Bolivia, the other is the Egyptian
Sphinx. The Sphinx was carved out of the limestones of the Giza
plateau. Mainstream archaeologists think it was built 4,500 years
ago but Hancock believes it is 12,000 years old. Some of his evidence
is again astronomical. The constellation Leo rose above the horizon
directly east of the Sphinx in 10,500BC, but there is no evidence
that this constellation was recognised by the Ancient Egyptians,
but Hancock also claims there is geological evidence. Egypt has
had a dry climate since the time the pyramids were built, but the
Sphinx and its surrounding enclosure are deeply eroded. It has been
argued by Hancock and others that the erosion was caused by heavy
rainfall and that this means the Sphinx must have been carved many
thousands of years earlier than we thought, when the climate was
wetter. But the erosion argument has not stood up to the scrutiny
of geologists. Erosion on the Giza plateau does not depend on water.
The Giza limestones contain salts and these have proved to cause
destructive levels of erosion in very short periods of time. There
is no hard evidence that the Sphinx is any older than the orthodox
date. Hancock has also focused on another monument thousands of
miles from Egypt, in South America. High in the Bolivian Andes lies
Lake Titicaca. Nine miles to the east is one of the most mysterious
ruined cities in the world. It is called Tiwanaku. Archaeologists
think that this was the capital of a South American empire that
began to flourish nearly 2,000 years ago, but the identity of the
people who created Tiwanaku remains a mystery. Whoever they were,
they were superb stone-masons creating temples and monuments using
immense but precisely carved blocks of stone. For more than a century
Tiwanaku has attracted fabulous explanations.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: As to who would have built Tiwanaku what we might
be talking about is the survivors of the lost civilisation, people
who have moved into the mountains to create a new settlement to
try to preserve something of their culture, something of their tradition,
something of their religious ideas.
NARRATOR: For evidence Hancock turned to the writings of Arthur
Posnansky, who thought Tiwanaku was the cradle of ancient American
civilisation. He stumbled on the site at the turn of the century
and became a self-appointed expert. Posnansky claimed Tiwanaku was
an ancient astronomical observatory. He believed that particular
stone blocks had once been positioned to face the sun as it rose
above the horizon at the winter and summer solstices, but like the
constellations, the position of the solstices changes very slowly
over time and Posnansky found the best match between the stone blocks
and the rising sun 12,000 years ago.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: Arthur Posnansky, who is by no means a favourite
with orthodox scholars, but did spend 50 years of his life studying
Tiwanaku from the early 1900s up until the 1940s, made a very strong
case that the alignments, the original alignments of Tiwanaku, had
been set out at a time when the rising point of the sun was quite
different from, from where it is today at the winter and summer
solstices and he dated that approximately to about 12,000 years
NARRATOR: But how good is the evidence that Hancock relies on? Has
Posnansky's work stood the test of time? Tiwanaku is in a ruinous
state. Its great blocks lie shattered and fallen. That's because
in the 17th century the Spanish Conquistadors arrived in this region
of the Andes. They set about destroying this pagan monument. The
Spanish broke up the site, moved hundreds of blocks and built a
cathedral with them nearby. No one knows where many of the remaining
blocks were originally positioned. Posnansky could only guess that
they might once have been aligned with the rising sun, yet this
was his most important evidence. Posnansky died in 1948. That means
he missed a revolution in archaeological science, one that might
have changed his mind about the age of the site. Carbon dating is
a method that has provided increasingly reliable dates for archaeological
sites all over the world, including Tiwanaku. Carbon dates for the
great stone monuments show they are less than 2,000 years old. Graham
Hancock disputes their age because carbon dating can't date the
stone itself, but only organic remains like bone or charcoal found
in association with the stone. He regards this association as unreliable,
although the method has been tried and tested at sites throughout
the world, and at Tiwanaku archaeologists are confident of the link.
But anyway, here archaeologists have dug deeper than the stone structures.
The earlier signs of any human habitation, probably a small village,
easily dated from organic remains are just 3,500 years old; nowhere
near 10,500BC. So how does Hancock deal with this information in
his most recent book?
GRAHAM HANCOCK: I'm not required to be encyclopaedic. In Heaven's
Mirror there is no representation whatsoever of recent carbon dates
for Tiwanaku. I simply didn't discuss it in there.
NARRATOR: There is no hard evidence that survivors of a lost civilisation
built Tiwanaku or the Sphinx 12,000 years ago. But there is one
other way Hancock could change our view of the past and that is
to find the home of the lost civilisation. It would be the find
of the century, the real Atlantis. Hancock has made an astonishing
suggestion about where it could be: Antarctica. He has claimed that
Antarctica was once in a warmer region and home to the lost civilisation.
12,000 years ago, he argued, a massive shift in the earth's crust
thrust Antarctica to the South Pole where it became ice-bound. Geologists
have studied the history of Antarctica through ice-cores, some as
deep as 3.5 kilometres. Ice-cores are like tree rings and they can
be used to work out the history of the ice-sheets. The scientists'
work shows clearly that the ice has been here for over 400,000 years.
It would have been hard to survive here in 10,500BC let alone create
a sophisticated civilisation.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: What I've come to realise as my research has gone
on in a sense, is that I don't need Antarctica and therefore I don't
need to propose a radical revolution of geological ideas in order
to explain a lost civilisation.
NARRATOR: Hancock now believes we've been looking in the wrong place.
The lost civilisation was underwater all along. This is the Yonaguni
formation. Discovered in 1987 by a Japanese fisherman it lies under
five metres of water at the end of the Japanese island chain. It
appears to be a series of steps and pyramid-like structures. Could
this be the remains of a city lost 12,000 years ago?
GRAHAM HANCOCK: It looks like a monument. It has very curious features.
It has a series of steps and terraces cut into its side, it's oriented
to the cardinal directions, it faces due south, it has a deep east/west
feature running along in front of it. It bears all the hallmarks
of a designed ceremonial, ritual or religious monument.
NARRATOR: Yonaguni looked as if it could be a spectacular discovery
and Hancock needed corroboration. He invited the Boston University
geologist Robert Schoch to inspect the site. Professor Schoch has
taken a keen interest in unorthodox views of the past and he welcomed
the chance to examine the underwater discovery. Schoch dived with
Hancock several times at Yonaguni.
PROF. ROBERT SCHOCH (Boston University): I went there in this case
actually hoping that it was a totally manmade structure that was
now submerged underwater, that dated maybe back to 6,000BC or more.
When I got there and I got to dive on the structure I have to admit
I was very, very disappointed because I was basically convinced
after a few dives that this was primarily possibly totally a natural
GRAHAM HANCOCK: I think that what Robert Schoch needs to do is a
lot more diving. When I took him there in 1997, September of 1997,
he did four dives at that time and then he went back again in July
of 1998 and did a few more dives. I really feel that before anybody
pronounces definitively on this monument they should put in a minimum
of 50 dives.
NARRATOR: Professor Schoch has not changed his mind.
ROBERT SCHOCH: Isolated portions of it look like they're manmade,
but when you look at it in context, you look at the shore features
etc and you see how, in this case, fine sandstones split along horizontal
bedding plains that gives you these regular features. I'm convinced
it's a natural structure.
NARRATOR: Graham Hancock is still scouring the oceans of the world
for a lost civilisation. He has also investigated pyramids and a
giant stone face on the planet Mars, but he has yet to find firm
evidence that there really was a forgotten civilisation of god-like
astronomers 12,000 years ago.
GRAHAM HANCOCK: I believe passionately that the past has been misrepresented
and that people today are not being given the full picture and I
don't think that my arguments are ever going to be successfully
destroyed by nit-picking.
ED KRUPP: After having invested a lot of time doing what I think
very few other people do, which is saying, OK, you've made this
claim, let's see if it holds up. And so, subjecting it to the rules
of evidence and then coming to a conclusion, my conclusion is no,
I don't think they're right and I don't think they're right because
I don't think the evidence fits the hypothesis.
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