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Annie Wharton
Any news on Logie LOCATION: 51.500000,-0.116700 DATE: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:40:11 GMT WOtM team: Unfortunately, we won't know if Logie is alive or not until next summer when she should return to her nest in Scotland.

Orla Mackey and Lyn Venables
We are writing to voice our concerns about the programme of satellite tracking which you have undertaken. We cannot deny but that it is interesting to follow the course of these birds and to learn of their nesting habits. However, we believe it to be wrong to place the burden of a transmitter on juveniles for their first migration. Here we're thinking of Glen and Moray in particular, who were at an extraordinary disadvantage to begin with, being only 3 weeks fledged, instead of the usual 5 weeks, when their parents left on their migration. They coud not have been as fit and heavy as they should have been, I assume.We've heard the argument that the transmitter is at most 2% of the bird's body weight. These birds fly many thousands of kilometres with this device. Were 2% of a human's body weight permanently attached to their shoulders, they would surely feel the discomfort and try to rid themselves of the burden.The results of satellite tracking are scientifically very interesting however, as the Osprey population has been in the recent past, very insecure, surely there is some criteria which must be adhered to e.g a National set of standards in place which guide such an activity. If so, we suggest that satellite tagging should exclude juveniles before they have made their first migration. Adults should have at least a couple of weeks to acclimatise to this foreign body before they undertake their migratory journey. Take Nimrod for example, he was tagged shortly before this journey. He appeared to have left on migration but returned to his original nest after an overnight roost at Montrose Bay, a round trip of 174 miles. Is it possible that he aborted his attempt in an effort to adjust to his harness and its incumbent weight? Also, 5 years seems too great a chunk out of their lives for such a handicap.We are curious as to whether these areas are actually being monitored in order that species being satellite tagged are not put at risk. LOCATION: 52.6331,-7.2455 DATE: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:31:45 UTC

AI
Just read about Nimrod's amazing 35 hour non-stop flight from France to Morocco - as well as his continued progress down Africa. Without those satellite receivers, we would never have known - which just goes to show what a wonderful opportunity for information they offer us all. Once again, thank you to Roy Dennis and his team. Brilliant. LOCATION: 40.8429,-64.3936 DATE: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:37:51 UTC

B Sessions
The migration of the tagged ospreys has not be going well. Do you think that the disturbance to the birds caused by a. the capturing and handling in the course of tagging; and b. having to fly with the tag,has contributed in any way to their wayward migration.Were licences under the Wildlife and Countryside Act and the legislation implementing the Birds Directive obtained for this operation. LOCATION: 51.5241,-0.1208 DATE: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:37:10 UTC WOtM expert: Roy Dennis has this reply. We are sure the actual ringing visit has no effect on their behaviour, and we and colleagues from abroad have no evidence that the transmitters cause navigation errors. The radio transmits infrequently and only at certain periods over schedules of one to several days, up to ten. In good or average weather, the tracks of both adults and young show them migrating without any evidence that the transmitters are affecting their navigation. Ospreys, like other migrating birds, sometimes get lost or die when they run into storms and bad weather, especially in heavy rain and thick overcast. Then, whether they have a radio or not, they usually fly downwind and hope to make landfall, feed up and restart their migration; lucky ones even survive major storms. The transmitters show that migration can be very difficult, and also the range of difficulties that some migrant ospreys have to endure and how many fail to make it to Africa. This has been a very poor autumn for migration because of the long periods of cloudy skies, heavy rain and winds.

Lyn Venables
Do you not think that there is a direct correlation between the fact that Logie and her chicks were tagged and their tragic attempts at migration? Surely satellite tagging has an impact on these birds that even goes beyond discomfort and added weight. What of the sensory impact of transmitters? The very fact that Logie, as a mature bird, took a month longer to come to Scotland seems to suggest a deeper issue. It is difficult to accept that inclement weather alone is responsible for such an erratic migration. I would really appreciate your response to my comment. LOCATION: 52.6447,-7.2318 DATE: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:04:06 UTC WOtM team: As you can hear in this report - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/worldonthemove/reports/logie-and-chicks/ the satellite transmitters only weigh 30g, which represents at most 2% of their whole body weight. Unfortunately, as we learnt in last week's programme, Logie's offspring are genetically programmed to migrate westwards and it seems this has been Moray's undoing.

Paul Archer
Do ospreys ever hunt in a group? I have seen red kites and buzzards do this but they don't seem to share the food. LOCATION: 54.7072,-1.6837 DATE: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:19:09 UTC WOtM team: Osprey don't hunt co-operatively in the way that some birds of prey do... the north American Harris's Hawk for example. However several birds will fish over productive areas, though they operate singly and are just responding to an adundance of prey. In west Africa you can see several ospreys fishing over the lagoons in winter, but in the UK , numbers are at much lower densities and so groups of birds are rarer.

Sue Nicolson
Could you please explain how on earth anyone "tags" an osprey ?? It must be extremely difficult to get anywhere near the nest, let alone the chicks, wtih the protective parents on guard. Thanks LOCATION: 54.000000,-2.000000 DATE: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:50:10 UTC WOtM team: You're right, Logie will be very protective of her offspring and attaching satellite tags will be very difficult but hopefully when Logie is off finding food, the chicks will be left alone.

Maurice Humberstone
Having got us all enthused about Logie, why the news blackout, is it the risk of egg collectors locating the nest? LOCATION: 52.466702,-1.916700 DATE: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:44:16 UTC WOtM team: As you'll know if you watched Springwatch last night, Osprey chicks are starting to hatch. We are currently waiting for Logie's eggs to hatch but Roy Dennis doesn't expect this to happen for another 2 weeks. We hope you can wait!

patricia
I too would like an update on logie having enjoyed the progress of her journey it is a shame not to hear the outcome of her nesting etc Patricia LOCATION: 51.4420,-1.0602 DATE: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:56:37 UTC LOCATION: 51.4420,-1.0602 DATE: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:56:37 UTC

Margaret Johnson
Please can we have some more information about Logie. Has she laid eggs yet? WOtM team: Logie has indeed laid eggs and we hope to bring you news in the form of a report whenever these eggs hatch. Exciting stuff! LOCATION: 53.73,-0.50 DATE: Sat, 17 May 2008 20:55:32 GMT

Dawn Lindsay
We have just seen a large bird of prey on the top of a tree - white breast and head with black markings at the neck. It seemed significantly larger than the buzzards we regularly see. Some books we have show similar markings on a juvenille but it definately had yellow feet - does this rule out an osprey?We are about 8 miles south east of Chester - postcode CH39BNAny comments would be most usefulDawn Lindsay LOCATION: 53.583302,-2.433300 DATE: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:16:51 GMT

kangurs
Have been watching a female osprey catching fish in leicestershire at the spot that I saw my first one as a boy I hoped it was Logie however it would seem that she is still in France waiting for better weatherSo back to the nail biting and crossed fingers Kangurs LOCATION: 53.683300,-1.300000 DATE: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:51:47 UTC

Ben Hoare
Just after 1 pm today (4th April) I saw a migrating Osprey over Stoke Newington, North London, flying due north at about 200-250 feet. It's been a bright, clear day - good for migration. I was only popping out for a loaf of bread, so I'm quite pleased with this record - it's certainly my best so far for my N16 postcode. I gather from a popular London birders' website that another Osprey has also been seen over London today - at Brent Reservoir. LOCATION: 51.5463,-0.0522 DATE: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:06:20 GMT

GRAHAM PALMER
The whole idea, and all the planning, and hard work deserves more than just a message of thanks. We should be invited to subscribe money so that more specific work, like this, can be done. I may be 75but the grandchildren are being informed along the route! Many, many thanks.Graham Palmer LOCATION: 51.3066,-0.5658 DATE: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:56:19 GMT

Bill Gardner
Have a look at the newly returned Ospreys at SWT's Loch of the Lowes nest via the new live streaming webcam via SWT's website. Also go and see the 1080i HD TV studio quality pictures in the visitor centre there if you are travelling north of Perth on the A9. LOCATION: 51.400002,-1.316700 DATE: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:49:27 GMT

fenners
I have been totally gripped by this flight. What I'd like to know is what triggers the bird to migrate and to keep going everyday in the way that it does? Secondly the route is different from the one it took out why is that? How does it navigate so accurately? LOCATION: 51.500000,-0.583300 DATE: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:35:12 UTC WOtM team: Thanks! Roy Dennis will be on the show today (Tuesday 11am) and hopefully he will shed some light on this extraordinary journey.

glynis mcintyre
thank you world on the move - its fabulous radio - but logie 's migration has me utterly enthralled. every spring i look out for the housemartins to return to my house in the wye valley, and logie's journey has reminded me to be amazed by the acheivement of all migrating birds as i once was as a child!Q: are my housemartins really the same ones/last years chicks? and if so why and how do they return to the same building?thanks, glynis LOCATION: 51.8120,-2.6944 DATE: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:39:38 UTC LOCATION: 54.000000,-2.000000 DATE: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:43:31 UTC

Annelise
I am brushing up my english and started listening to podcasts from BBC. Only by accident I dropped on World on the Move and I was immediately thrilled to bits when I heard about Logie's journey back home. I have listend last edition 3 times just to be shure I understood every word. And I am at my computer every day and can't wait, until she returns. Thanks for this beautiful opportunity to brush up my english as well as learning a lot about our fantastic nature. LOCATION: 47.1748,7.7014 DATE: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:01:27 UTC

Amanda I
30 March. Any news of Logie? LOCATION: 43.6917,0.1016 DATE: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:32:24 UTC

John Stanworth
Please give us an update on Logie. Is she still in north Spain? LOCATION: 53.299999,-4.633300 DATE: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:56:47 GMT

Tom Plower
I live in North Florida. The Ospreys here do not migrate. Often while traveling in my car, my daughter compete with each other to see who can spot the first Osprey nest and the most Ospey nests. Cell phone and power line towers are favored nesting sites.Fresh water bass fishing is my hobby. Most days, the Ospeys do much better fishing than I do. To watch them break out of a hover at nearly 80-100 feet and dive to the water to grab a fish is most exciting. Once they grab the fish it is hillarious to watch them labor into the sky with the increased load/drag.I could not wait to get home after work today. Alas, no update for the past two days. I was worried about Logie's impending journey across the Bay of Biscay. I thought she would head east to avoid the sea journey. That would take her over most of France. I'd opt for the sea journey.Thanks to the professionals at the BBC for a most entertaining piece. LOCATION: 30.102301,-81.353203 DATE: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:10:20 UTC

J.Sheriff
Osprey, with fish, seen Lindores Loch Fri 28 Mar 08 Between 4;30\5;00 p.m. LOCATION: 56.3341,-3.1881 DATE: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:38:24 UTC

Amanda I.
March 26th. Now Logie's reached the coast of N. Spain, I hope she picks the right day to cross the Bay of Biscay. Have even checked the weather maps to see what has been forecast in the next day or two. I'm assuming she's on her own but may be wrong there. Thanks to all on the website for giving us such wonderful detail which has made her migration all the more real. God speed, Logie, and may you reach your destination safe and sound. LOCATION: 54.000000,-2.000000 DATE: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:50:24 UTC

David Yarwood
I am gripped by this journey and have become addicted to monitoring Logie's progress. I have been surprised by some of the heights she has flown at - presumably a lot of energy is used to get that high, so is there a trade-off to gain some benefit (safety, clearer skies, wind ........). Will there be any attempt to recapture the osprey when she gets home to assess the effect of the journey? LOCATION: 52.4794,-0.9201 DATE: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:32:35 GMT

Penny
Fascinating and quite moving to follow Logie's journey. I shall be relieved when she arrives safely.Thank you for the fantastic website. One question for you, is she travelling entirely on her own or would she be in the company of any other ospreys? LOCATION: 0.000000,0.000000 DATE: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:58:41 GMT

Len Cruickshank
LOCATION: 57.0840,-4.0512 DATE: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:00:00 GMT

Nick Brown
It's fascinating to watch Logie return north. My association with ospreys started in 1962 when I went to help Roy at Loch Garten....though the pair failed to rear any young that year. I've been lucky enough to see ospreys migrating through Spain and Morocco and even one spring seeing one flying north over a road near my home in Derbyshire. Roy is to be congratulated on his marvellous work over so many years.Now working for the Derbyshire Wildlife Trust, I'm involved with a peregrine project on Derby Cathedral. While these birds don't migrate, they certainly attract massive interest to the web cams set up there by my abseiling colleague at Derby Museum, Nick Moyes. We had over 230,000 hits last summer!We expect eggs any day now and you can see video clips of the pair feeding, nest scraping and mating even on the blog! To see the web cams and to read the blog go to www.derby.gov.uk/peregrinesPerhaps Logie will overfly Derby on her return, who knows? Nice if she did!Nick LOCATION: 23.8858,156.0938 DATE: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:12:44 UTC

steve williams
Hi there i have followed the migration of logie from the beginning, when she returns to her nest site,sheshould meet up with her mate,does he migrate aswell or does he stay here, as no one seems to mention him or his whereabouts. LOCATION: 52.7180,-2.1039 DATE: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:48:11 UTC

J. Pope
I understand from catching a programme on Radio 4, that an Osprey is currently being tracked on its return flight to UK. Would this be so? LOCATION: 54.583302,-1.416700 DATE: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:40:27 UTC WOtM team: That's correct - Logie the Osprey is being tracked on her northward migration from Guinea Bissau back to Scotland. You can follow her progress on our interactive map.

Greg
Were Osprays reintroduced by humans, since the sixties, or did it happen naturally? LOCATION: 53.7552,-0.4477 DATE: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:23:19 UTC

Steve Turner
Have just seen an Osprey, to my great surprise, as we are in Bibury in Gloucestershire. I was told a couple of years ago that one had been seen here but I did not believe it. Now I have seen one for myself. It is now getting dark so will hope to see it again in the morning before it sets off. LOCATION: 53.250000,-1.916700 DATE: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:39:31 UTC

Andrew Harwood
I am very surprised that there has been no osprey activity on this site yet. We are expecting our ospreys back in Rutland in about a week's time, weather permitting. Surely they must have started their journey by now? When will the site mapping be active? I have been checking this site every day for a month, now. Has there been a problem contacting Logie? LOCATION: 54.000000,-2.000000 DATE: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:55:52 GMT WOtM team: Logie must be reading these comments because she's just started to move. We'll be talking to Roy Dennis in next Tuesday's programme (18 March 2008) and you can track Logie via www.roydennis.org

george
what results do you expect to find LOCATION: 51.500000,-0.116700 DATE: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:04:36 UTC WOtM team: We assume they migrate between Scotland and West Africa but because not a lot is known about the Osprey we are looking for details on how they migrate - do they do it in one trip or lots of small journeys.

Virginia Crompton
I visited the Marquenterre bird reserve at Baie de Somme south of Calais last week and saw Spoonbills, Storks and a Crane.Do we ever see Spoonbills in the UK? LOCATION: 51.4968,-0.1208 DATE: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:23:40 UTC WOtM team: They are very rarely seen in the UK but there have been a number of sightings on the muddy estuaries of Norfolk and Suffolk this year; it seems the Dutch population is doing very well at the moment and some are spilling over to the UK.

Andrew Harwood, Stamford
I guess your Scottish osprey will make a move before the end of the month. She's a long way to go. The project knows exactly where she is now, so when will you start to link her movements up to the map? Hoping she will mimic the return of our local Rutland ospreys. Safe journey to them all! This makes the trip all the more exciting as we anticipate their return. LOCATION: 52.6481,-0.4944 DATE: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:44:16 GMT WOtM team: Hopefully within the next week or two

Mike Carter, the Black Isle
Delighted that you're including the Osprey in this project, and so close to home too! You may be interested to know that, in conjunction with the RSPB, I'm putting up some osprey platforms in my wood up here- not far from Forres, just a little further north, in fact. Who knows, the one you're tracking may end up here! LOCATION: 54.9776,-3.5156

Keith Emerick, York
Last week my wife and youngest son took the dog for a walk along the River Ouse at Poppleton (4 miles west of York). When they returned home they said they had seen the biggest bird of prey they had ever seen, take off from the trees by the river. They said it was mostly brown and white and when I showed them pictures of Ospreys in flight they said it was definitely an Osprey. I know they are seen to the north of York at Newton on Ouse and Thornborough, but perhaps not this early? LOCATION: No location WOtM team: Hi Keith, Brett says there's very little chance it is an Osprey but believes it could well be a Buzzard. Hope this helps!

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