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CARL GUSTAV JUNG
Sheila:Jung
Jung expressed,consciously and in human terms, his certainty of a 'collective unconscious': a principle of transmission between participants in a cosmic medium of communication. As we are the primary instruments of communication in our own-spun human environment, would the natural progression be to realise and transmit(consciously and unconsciously)a collective human principle? Say "humanness"?
Tim Tempest - Wish List
Given the number of times his name pops up during In Our Time, I'd like to hear a solo show on Aristotle. Of course, I'd also like to hear MB and guests deal with William James and Adam Smith, two gentlemen who have popped up in a number of programmes only to disappear like Aristotle into 'background reference'. However, no matter how esoteric or specialised the topic appears to be, MB and guests make it interesting and accessible to non-specialists like me.
Nick Owen Jung
I am an enthusiastic listener to this programme, but this was a real disappointment. The programme came close to classifying Jung as nothing but a madman at times, though Samuels did well to resuce him from the criticism of the other two speakers. The fundamental ideas of introversion, extraversion and typology were ignored almost totally. This programme is often a brilliant exploration of the history of ideas.Here it went for the man and almost missed the ideas. If you wanted to explore the collective unconscious you should have had a philosopher or a mythographer.
MP3 lover : MP3s
wonderful idea to create downloadable MP3 versions of these brilliant programmes! - is there any possiblity of going through the archives and creating MP3s of previous editions?? It would be great to be able to dump them on the iPod and listen to them whilst on the move! :)
Ann Marie. Melvyn's Newsletter
Dear Melvyn Bragg and In Our Time team. Always look forward to your fascinating and challenging programme. The themes are always relevant to my 'everday', and often lead me to further reading. Also particularly wanted to say thank you to Melvyn for his insightful and personal newsletters...especially his most recent one on Jung, and the marvellous evocative description of the Thames.
Sue Davis - possible future subjects?
Looking back at the Listen Again files, I agree with Mike Wickens - there does seem to be a gap as regards economic history. This might need more than one programme to fill - perhaps something on the Med/Ren origins of European capitalism, then one on Adam Smith et al and one or more on the 20th century - Keynes, Friedman etc? (Can't remember - have you done games theory yet?) I suppose you depend very much on which experts are available but I'm sure there's no lack of good speakers in this field! Keep up the excellent work.
The Prairie Tortoise::::: Jung
Thank you for another excellent and informative programme. "In Our Time" provides free high-level education which is fascinating to listen to and enables one to hold forth knowledgably amongst the cognoscenti (hopefully).
Ian Francis: Jung
The programme continues to be the most precious regular broadcasting we have. On the definition of personality types( I was labelled as ENTJ both times I did the Myers-Briggs)may I recommend Malcolm Gladwell's excellent piece in the New Yorker, republished on Arts and Letters Daily, a site I hope everyone has had a chance to look at.
Richard: 'Jung'
Wonderful programme but the ending didn't really (as someone has mentioned) explore the anti-semitism associated with Jung. Seems a shame not to have put it in better perspective as overall Jung had a far deeper respect and awareness of cultures than most...
The Muslim man- Jung 3 December 2004
I think that you had done an excellent job explainig this amazing topic. It was just brilliant and outstanding. No doubt about it!!!!
James Baring - Jung Dec 2
The theories of Jung were very well addressed. The concept of 'individuation' (if I have got the word right) is of fundamental importance. For individuals to be part of a functioning society they have first to develop their own potential and be responsible for their own health and behaviour. A collective unconscious is dependent on individual unconscious or subconscious(es). The same principle applies to incorporation on a greater level. It is this principle which is not understood or appreciated by those who oppose organisations like the European Union.
David Bolton
Most interenting programme and very helpful to issues I am addressing at present in my work (eg the discussion of the collective psychology). Keep it going. great programme and concept. Thank you DB
Nick Baker - Jung (anti-semitism?)
I have always assumed that Jung meant that a different set of beliefs and religious practices would set up a different archetypal structure within the unconscious. This would also apply to Christianity and Islam, and any other two differing groups. I'm willing to give CGJ the benefit of the doubt, giving my understanding of the structure of the Psyche.
Ben James: Jung, 2 Dec 2004
Great discuss of Jung and his ideas. I liked the exposition of Jung and Freud's relationship, and the influence of Jung's early life. I did not agree with the impression that Freud practiced what came to be known as orthodoxy, whereas Jung diverged from the path. Very many analysts now appreciate that theory aside Freud did not adhere to what we would now recognise as therapeutic orthodoxy in the clinical setting. More on analysis please - how about Melanie Klein and the splits in the British Psychoanalytic Society.
Nick Baker - Jung
surely the difference between Jung and Freud is that Freud felt that the unconscious was a product of the conscious ego, while Jung's position was that the ego evolved from the unconscious. yes?
Richard Hull - Jung / Personality Type
Excellent programme. I was surprised, though, that no-one mentioned Jung's influence on the concept of 'Personality Type', and the subsequent industry of personality type 'instruments' - such as the Myers Briggs Type Indicator. These are increasingly used by large organisations as an initial screen of applicants for a vacancy - and in many other contexts. I cannot imagine Jung would have been at all in favour of many of these uses. I am not saying this as a critique of Jung or Jungian perspectives, with which I have a lot affinity. What I am suggesting is that: (a) Melvin and his researchers and some of the discussants missed a trick - it is always far more interesting, in terms of the history of ideas, to look at quite un-intended consequences of ideas; (b) The contradictions between psychoanalytic perspectives in general, and the instrumentality of 'personality type', would have made for an even more interesting dicussion
Brian Goodale
Please, please ask Melvyn to slow down his delivery. He rushes. I'm all for greater content, but he just needs to be a little more measured. His guests are often much more listenable than he is.
Nick Baker - Jung
This morning's program was good and gave a good coverage of a difficult subject in the available time. One would have liked less time to be given on Jung's break with Freud and more on the indiviuation process - perhaps touching on Jung's extensive work on the psychology of alchemy and its religious connection, such as individuation as the true 'born again' process and its part in changing the God-image.
Tony Woodd.................Jung
The stigma of mental health problems is an indication of the fear attached to this issue.........Maybe the difficulty that society has in determining what good mental health is,is that it does not know and that this is an indication of the poor mental health status of society and that it should look again and again at it's imperatives,look at the fear which drives our violence in order to awake from the unwitting violence of our past.........
Jo - Jung, 2 Dec 04
I agree that this programme ended a bit abrubtly. Melvyn seemed frustrated with not being able to set up a clear distinction between Frued and Jung. But surely that was the point. Overall, however, another excellent programme.
David Ploss - In Our Time: Jung
Brilliant programme - so clear - can't wait for the mp3 version
John Hunt, Loughborough: Freud / Jung collective
When you read 'Moses and Monotheism'(Freud's last work, published in the year of his death, though the ideas are much earlier) I can't help thinking that he implies the existence of a collective unconscious, though he never uses the expression. For those who don't know it, Freud believes Moses was an Egyptian, who took monotheism out of Egypt -along with the Israelites -after the failure of Akhnaton's religious revolution. He believes the Israelites sacrificed Moses on a mountain and that unconscious guilt at the murder of the lawgiver / father / God becomes a permanent feature of the Jewish character. I liked what someone said about the split between Freud and Jung being like the division into two of an organic whole. It was also refreshing to hear a Jungian concede that Jung was (at least in some respects , for a period of time) anti-semitic. The split, which i agree is about personalities, more that psychoanalytic theory, seems to have initiated a racial entrenchment in both men. (Witness jung's period of essentially Gentile / Germanic solar mythology.) So both men believed in profound differences in the unconscious of Jew's and non-jews, which would be anathema now.
John Warden - Jung, 2 Dec 04
Comments don't seem to be published with dates and topics, which is confusing. The programme was very good as a whole but how silly to end on such a sour note. Was this deliberate? Jungs comments on Jews were of his time, not 'our time'.
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