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18 February 2009

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Bush fires, Teletext and Sub-editors
Ed Stourton talks to a journalist covering the Bush fires in Australia and examines how reporters can be best supported when covering traumatic events, he discovers whether sub-editors really are a layer of staff that "can be eliminated" from newsrooms and takes a nostalgic look at Teletext; will it fall victim to the digital future?

Australian Bush Fires: Trauma and Reporting

Bush Fire, AustraliaRichelle Hunt has been reporting on the Australian Bush fires for ABC news for the last two weeks and has witnessed some harrowing scenes. Ed talks to her about her experiences and discusses how journalists can best be supported when they have reported traumatic events with Chris Cramer, former president of CNN and now new Global Editor for Multimedia at Reuters and Lindsey Hilsum, International editor of Channel 4 News.

Dart Center for Journalism and Trauma

Can sub-editors be eliminated?

NewspapersRoy Greenslade believes that sub-editors are a layer of staff that "can be eliminated" from the newsroom, but what role do they play in putting together a newspaper and would the quality and accuracy of newspapers decline without them? Ed finds out how   Trinity Mirror have adapted the role for their Birmingham newspapers and debates the issues with Roy Greenslade and Brian Cathcart.

Teletext

TeletextTeletext may be a thing of the past when digital switchover occurs. Last week Teletext announced redundancies after cutting its daily national news pages from thirty to twenty, following a "review of editorial costs and efficiencies" and last month, Ofcom stated that post-2014 there is no longer clear justification to maintain the teletext licence.  Critic David Quantick ponders what we would lose, should that happen.

Comments on Today's Programme

Teletext:
Loved David Quantick's piece on Teletext and am very glad to hear Ed Stourton's assurance that Ceefax will be available until the end of switchover.The new Direct Gov Text pages have only just made it onto Teletext: will these be safeguarded to the end of switchover?Oh and are there sub-editors on Ceefax other than the Local Ceefax/Red Button/Omline Teams?
Sue Hibberd

Sub-editing:
As a past trainer of NCTJ journalists- all postgraduates - I am truly alarmed at the level of basic skills they possess, i.e. spelling and punctuation. One recent trainee asking: " What's the difference between 'too' and 'to'?" Hence I am in favour of another pair of specialist eyes to oversee grammar and punctuation, let alone copy polishing, fact checking etc. Long live the sub editor.Call me a cynic (that's what years on a subs desk does!) but the disappearance of subs is, as ever, driven by cost cuts, not a desire to improve editorial standards.The real challenge is creating 'media neutral' journalists who can produce content that can be used in both print and digital publications. I feel journalists do need to learn how the digital medium works and how it differs from print.But firstly they need to learn how to spell and punctuate.
Cheryl Chapman.

The current discussion regarding sub editors suggests that papers may not need sub editors, I am astonished at this as the spelling and grammar in The Times is appalling!

Reporters and Trauma:
I've just been listening (streaming to Australia - I live in Canberra) the discussion concerning the reactions of reporters to the traumatic events they report on. While I agree with much your commentators were saying about maintaining a professional detachment during reporting and the belief of some reporters that they are 'the story' they're reporting, may I make a specific comment concerning reporting of such events as fires and floods in Australia. Firstly, the nature of general media in Australia means that reporters are, generally, locals - living in the communities they are reporting on, particularly when they are reporting on events such as fires or floods. Secondly, when reporting on bushfires or floods, these are, generally, naturally occuring events within Australia which every individual will experience either personally or through family during their lives. These two facts mean that any reporter may find themselves in the situation where they are not only reporting on the event but are also victims of the event. During the fires that swept Canberra in 2003 the ABC reporter on 2CN (local ABC) remained on air for a considerable time reporting on the events without knowing whether her own house was still standing and her family and pets were safe. This puts a very different pressure on the reporter, creating a very personal slant to the story and making the professionalism with which the stories are delivered all the more remarkable. To the lady who suggested that such reporting might be seen as self-indulgent I would suggest that she would have understood better the reporting from Australia if she had been a Rwandan reporting on the events in Rwanda?

Lindsey Hilsum's comments on reporters facing traumatic events were the very best, particularly her feeling that 'philosophical help' was what she could need after reporting on some of the most terrible. This is precisely the point. A philosophical template existed in previous eras. But it needs an update in the light of knowledge, to be properly integrated with history and a proper perspective.
James Baring
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