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Louis, Joe and Michael Jackson's nose

Louis Theroux interviews Michael Jackson's father Joe in Louis, Martin & Michael (BBC TWO, Sunday 16 November, 9.00pm) and asks him the truth about his controversial relationship with his famous son.

In the extraordinary interview which is at various times hilarious, fraught and disturbing, Joe reveals that he never beat Michael, he only ever whipped him; that he doesn't believe his son is crazy; and that he "can't stand" gays.

The interview, conducted in a hotel room in America, is set up by Majestik Magnificent, a man who claims he was at one time Michael's personal magician and who is also present, and interjects frequently, throughout the interview.

Louis starts by quoting Michael as saying that he's so nervous of his father that to this day he regurgitates when he sees him.

Joe, encouraged by Magnificent, replies: "He regurgitates all the way to the bank. That's right."

Louis asks if that means he doesn't believe Michael or if it means he doesn't care and Joe replies: "Do I really care. I really don't."

On the subject of whether or not he beat Michael, Joe says: "I never beat him. I whipped him with a switch and a belt. I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick."

But Michael does have his father's support when it comes to his nose.

In one of the funniest moments in the interview he insists that Michael can do what he likes to his nose and Michael would be upset if Joe talked about his nose on the BBC.

At this point Majestik intervenes to tell Louis not to ask any more questions about Michael's nose otherwise the interview will be terminated.

Joe tells Louis that he objects to the British calling his son Wacko Jacko because in America if you call someone wacko it means they are crazy and he says that Michael is actually very smart.

It's when the subject of Michael’s romantic life comes up, however, that the interview gets really tense.

Louis asks Joe if he wished Michael had a partner and when Joe asks what he means by a partner, Louis replies he means a boyfriend or a girlfriend.

Majestik blurts out: "What are you trying to say that Michael's gay?" and insists several times that the camera is turned off.

It isn't and Majestik goes on to say that the question is disrespectful to Joe.

When Louis asks why the question is disrespectful, Joe says: "Because we don't believe in gays. I can't stand them."

Louis, Martin & Michael is directed and produced by Will Yapp.

The executive producers are Stuart Cabb and David Mortimer.

It is a BBC Entertainment production for BBC TWO.

Notes to Editors

A full transcript of the interview is available below in PDF format.

You may require Adobe Acrobat Software to read PDF files which can be obtained here.

Transcript (14 KB)

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