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forensic science/deaf studies
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a person called Ruthie was doing this course at uni. I want to know how they coped on it and was it useful. I want to do something using my knowledge of firearms.
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A forensic science degree covers a vast range of areas, from processing crime scenes as a SOCO (scenes of crime officer), which involes recovering items of evidence, packaging/storing them correctly, labelling and record keeping - which has to be meticulous to ensure a chain of continuity... to laboratory work which employs a wide range of skills, requiring a good background knowledge in maths, biology, chemistry, physics and so on....you use a lot of equipment i.e spectrophotometers, electron microscopes, chemical techniques to scientifically analyse evidence. You cover a lot of subjects within the degree, i.e as well as biology (this involves studying DNA , bacteria, and all kind of things) ,maths, physics and chemistry, you do anthropology, archaeology, entomology...to help you learn to estimate the post mortem interval in seletonised remains etc, you study soils, plants, insects, bacteria, and all sort of things. Firearms/ballistics is just one of the many topics covered in a FS degree. It takes years of experience to specialise in one area i.e fingerprints, DNA analysis, ballistics.. following a FS degree course. Also, a SOCO means you process cime scenes, and don't enter the labs. A Forensic scientist works ONLY in the labs.... the two are kept seperate to avoid cross contamination of items of evidence. SOCO's tend to be ex-army personnel..or mature people with experience...because of the violent nature of major crime scenes.
I'll write about coping with the course tomorrow!This is a reply to this message.
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It also involves waving a maglite torch at everything from shoulder height.
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It's a known fact that they only ever achieve breakthroughs in lab work at 3 am in a darkened laboratory.
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The main thing to remember in university ( and education) is that you are there to learn, therefore are communicating with others in order to learn, and are not there to spend all your time teaching others how to communicate with you...., that's why you are given learning support such as interpreters, notetakers etc. In a subject like FS, there is a lot of team-work involved.
I can't always teach the other students about deafness, or remind them to look at me when they are speaking etc, and if I can't summon the energy to do it, the alternative would be to ignore issues, and/or to get emotional about them when they arise.
This is where having a good relationship with your personal tutors comes in. They are well aware of the DDA Act and are usually very willing to make sure a D/deaf student can access their course.
So basically, the best way of coping on a university degree course is to build up very good rapport with your tutors. You can't go wrong if you can approach them and discuss any issues that arise from your deafness or their lack of awareness!
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There was an article in The Guardian about forensic science degrees recently.
www.guardian.co.uk/e...
Not enough murders to keep all the graduates in jobs, apparently.This is a reply to this message.
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Yes, that's the reality - there are too many students doing FS....but, still, its a fab subject! Never boring!
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If you're got rich parents to pay for the degree..then great.
On the otherhand, if you end up in debt without a job at the end..you're gonna be real mad.
I think the cost of these degrees nowadays, is just not on...even more so if you have a disability which is hard enough itself to get any kind of job.
Deaf should be entitled to free degree education!!!This is a reply to this message.
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I'm not real mad!
I love learning and value the learni experience for its own sake, no just for the qualification it gives me... Besides, when we had a 'free' education, we didn't have the DSA support, so although educaton was free, it wasn't accessible...but thanks to the support we get now, it is.This is a reply to this message.
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Also, what's needed to encourage more employers to take on D/deaf staff, and make them aware of Access to Work (ATW).
We also need ATW to provide funds for 'work experience' placements.
Also more funding for PG courses.This is a reply to this message.
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On the otherhand, if you end up in debt without a job at the end..you're gonna be real mad.
Not really. If you earn less than £15k you don't have to repay the student loan (the official one I mean, not an overdraft or anything like that). So if you are without a job you can just ignore it. It is written off if you haven't repaid it after 25 years.This is a reply to this message.
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The Open University offers a cheaper way of getting a degree because for people not in work and disabled people there is extra financial help. For example the Student Loan scheme pays your fees for the year and then lets you pay them back at so much a moth. It's about £40 I think.
Also there is OUSET the Open University Students Educational Trust. They make cash grants for impoverished students.
Plus of course DSA if applicable. Many courses are 100% online now so no travelling, no summer school and in some cases there is no exam, it's done by ongoing assessment.
http://www.open.ac.ukThis is a reply to this message.
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True! But I wouldn't miss the interaction I get from being with "uni-intelligent" people on a day-to-day basis for the world!
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Thank you deaf heart. You gave me lots of infoomation.I do not like the idea of Open University I want to do experiments with other students. I dont want to study at home all alone.
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You're welcome Cyber Builder.
By the way, have a look at training to be a SOCO on the internet - there are ways to do it without doing an FS degree!
There are also foundation courses in FS.
Best wishes.This is a reply to this message.
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Hi Blue
I agree we should have free degree education ,how are you not been on here for a while hope youre ok xThis is a reply to this message.
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Open University students do not study alone!
There are weekly tutorials with an OU tutor and a group of students. There are also many online forums where people chat about the coursework. If you get stuck you can ask someone for help.
The advantage for deaf people is that you never miss a word! Being deaf is no disadvantage.
But it's a disadvantage if the course has a summer school because it is hard for deaf people to manage them. That's why it is best to pick courses that do not rely on a summer school.This is a reply to this message.
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You can't do FS online - you need a laboratory, access to all sorts of sopisticated and expensive equipment, crime scene houses for walkthroughs, practical exams etc........
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The OU are world leaders in Vulcanology but I don't think you have to grow one in your back yard.
I don't know what they offer in the FS line but they do have links with full time universities for specialised facilities. The Vulcanology is done at the University of Hawaii I think.This is a reply to this message.
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I have to say I agree with Deaf Heart that for the study of Forensic Science one needs access to specialised laboratories etc. Lots of useful information you have given me.
I never mention wanting to consider studying volcanos and certainly not wanting to travel to the University of Hawaii. You have gone way off topic Corn.This is a reply to this message.
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