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Deaf Clubs - Are Visits From BSL Learners Appropriate

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  • Message 1. Posted by Dan McIntyre (U6990232) on Wednesday, 11th November 2009 permalink

    Hi all,

    I am currently doing BSL Level 1 at my local college and in order to obtain more practise in signing I wondered if it might be appropriate to visit a deaf club, at first to observe but then perhaps to join in?

    What would peoples thoughts on this be? I don't want to offend anyone but would like to get more practise.

    Many thanks!!

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  • Message 2. Posted by angelhorton (U14172024) on Wednesday, 11th November 2009 permalink

    Hi
    I am sure they would love to see you at the local deaf club ,when we were doing our BSL course during the break we went into the bar and mixed with deaf people ,they werent keen on us using voice though they prefered us to practice sign

    Our tutors were deaf and they encourage you to mix to get more practice and to get used to facial expressions as you have to use these in the exam !

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  • Message 3. Posted by jambocaz71 (U14194152) on Thursday, 12th November 2009 permalink

    I think it is great idea. We also had classes in a deaf club and learners went to the bar during their break. Had to order drinks so it was all good practice. I used to socialise at deaf club due to my dad & it was good seeing all these people really trying to communicate!! Best practice you can get is sitting with a bunch of deaf BSL users!!

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  • Message 4. Posted by MM (U1821038) on Thursday, 12th November 2009 permalink

    Of course deaf BSL people will respond in kind....

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  • Message 5. Posted by Dan McIntyre (U6990232) on Friday, 13th November 2009 permalink

    THanks for the replies everyone,

    Now to find one.....

    Dan

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  • Message 6. Posted by PoshFenTiger (U5703677) on Friday, 13th November 2009 permalink

    You should go to deaf clubs to broaden your knowledge, experience and signing skills. But I must say one thing I hate and that is a hearing student holding me "hostage" for too long. I think 20-30 mins per deaf person should be the maxium. Last time I went to a deaf club I was trapped on a corner table between 3 hearing students! Couldn't get away without being impolite!

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  • Message 7. Posted by deafgeordie78 (U14215033) on Saturday, 14th November 2009 permalink

    Hi, I think it would more pleasure to welcome BSL learners to deaf clubs. And it also could help to raise the awareness of community values in deaf world.

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  • Message 8. Posted by PoshFenTiger (U5703677) on Saturday, 14th November 2009 permalink

    Sure, I agree BSL learners should always be welcome at deaf clubs but what about the BSL users themselves? They have feelings too ...... for myself at the end of the day I like to spend some time away from non-signing hearing people and spend it with deaf friends so if I encounter a hearing student I'm quite happy to converse with them but not all evening, especially if I have gone to the deaf club to see deaf friends!

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  • Message 9. Posted by MM (U1821038) on Saturday, 14th November 2009 permalink

    This is the issue, if deaf people do not want their 'space' invaded during their social time, then there is precious little other avenue for the BSL learner to hone skills. We have the stupid concept around here where BSL classes are held in the deaf club, but only after the deaf have left the club, or are not there. Ideally if learners want to gain practical experieince, then going to the club after a class is ideal training ground for practical skills, where classes are not. Deaf don't want them there.

    They DO want interpreters, where do they think they are going to get them ? off a xmas tree ! Hearing learners pay good money £1,000s in fact, to gain these skills, skills deaf demand that are very high, it behoves deaf to do their bit, and they aren't doing it. If you do not encoureage trainee terps,then you will never ever get access in real terms, maybe some don't care so long as the deaf club/community is there. Fact is both are in decline.

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  • Message 10. Posted by CyberBuilder (U6039762) on Sunday, 15th November 2009 permalink

    I agree with MM. I do not mind hearing students joining us socially but dont want to be invaded.

    Dont outstay your welcome.

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  • Message 11. Posted by Dan McIntyre (U6990232) on Sunday, 15th November 2009 permalink

    Dont outstay your welcome.


    This was the main reason I was asking. I wouldn't want to impose or feel unwelcome and nor would I want the Deaf members to feel I was "using" them - if possible I'd much rather try and make friends rahter than coldly go into that environment and use the members as guinea pigs.

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