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End of an era in York
Terry's Chocolate Orange
End of an era for the chocolate industry in York

It's not Terry's - it's not anybody's. On Friday 30 September 2005 the iconic York factory with its huge clock tower, will be empty.

An era will come to an end as production is stopped for ever.

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Terry's started life in 1767 as Bayldon and Berry confectionery - it changed name in 1828 when Joseph Terry took over sole ownership.

With production having happened elsewhere in the city for 100 years, it moved to the Bishopthorpe factory in 1926. Despite a break during World War II, when the factory was to make aeroplane propellers, it continued to produce chocolate until now.

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At its peak hundreds of people were employed at the factory, but the number of staff has slowly decreased over the years.

It didn't come as a huge surprise when on Monday 19 April 2004 owners Kraft Foods announced that the Terry's factory in York was to close with the loss of 316 jobs.

The doors will close for good on Friday 30 September 2005.

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The production of well known products such as Terry's Chocolate Orange will continue, being transferred to facilities in Sweden, Belgium, Poland and Slovakia.

No matter how disappointing it is for workers or people who've grown up with the factory, it can't be as sad as it is for Peter Terry, the last of the Terry family to head the company.

"It's a great disappointment and very sad for me. I think it's also sad for the history of York, the traditions and the people of York and of course the employees.

"It can never be changed. It's gone from York forever."

The future of the distinctive factory site is unknown although there has been plenty of speculation over the potential value of the site for residential development.

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mark
ive had neapolitains for years and have searched all over the county! i agree that the quality of choclate oranges are poor! Richard Branson if your reading bring back neapolitains please

diane
i worked at terrys for years and it is so sad that we lost our jobs but life gose on

Jayne
I can't believe that the government are letting another company shut down and move overseas. We used to have the best of everything, thats why we were called GREAT Britain.

John
We are all guilty of buying foreign goods because they are cheaper which is why British Industry now only accounts for 15-17% of the British workforce instead of the 70 % it did inthe early sixties

Lulu
it is discusting! i will never eat another chocolate orange again

Terry
I just think quality in this country is being eroding when quality and choice that you had with Terry's quality chocolate

Andrew, Holmfirth, Yorks
Talking to a lad today whose father's from Naples, I realised he had no idea what Neapolitans were. He thought of mastiffs! Made me think of alternative names should a new company copy the product. Glaswegians, Mancunians, Parisians, Madrilenos, Genovese, Milanese don't do it. It has to be Neapolitans.

Ruth
I can' beleive that we can no longer buy Neopolitans. If they were such good sellers why does'nt Cadbury or some other company start producing them.

Tunny
What the heck have they done to the taste of Terry's Chocolate Orange???? I have been eating Chocolate oranges every christmastime since I was a youngster in the 70s - I have just tasted my first one of the season and it was DISGUSTING - hardly any orange flavour and a very powdery texture (rather like a Yorkie bar I had last week and vowed never to buy another one) - I guess this is my last chocolate orange too - what a sad christmas this is going to be!!

Graham II
What happened to the pyramint? I'm interested, it's not a quiz with a prize!

Nicola
OH MY GOD! no more neopolitans. They're my favourite! Please bring them back! Very sad loss.

John,Brum.
Terry's closed because it fell into the hands of a big,greedy U.S company who care nothing about people,tradition or history.Plain,Simple and True.

John
I hope that if anyone picks up a"Terry's"product in future,they think twice before buying it.

Hattie Evans!
very sad :(

matt
i am extremely sad to hear about terry's closing down and i feel for the familys of the people who have lost their jobs xx

Cynthia
I have only just learnt about the closure of Terrys. Yet another disaster for our country. It may be cheaper to make items abroad but they cost a lot more for the consumer to purchase. Does this mean we will never be able to purchase their 1767 Chocolates around Christmas time.

Mike N Leeds
Can John Terry of Chelsea fame make chocolate?

NinaLytle Red Deer Alta., Canada
So please tell me whatever am I going to put into the Advent Calendar this year? Neopolitans politans were JUST the right size for the little pockets, I live in Canada and I had a "stock-up" hidden away but alas there are no more Neopolitans in my "hidy-hole".I am bereft!!!!!!!!!!1

Alfred Goodson
I am trying to find which of my Goodson ancesters married Joseph Terry's daughter, to help complete my Goodson family research. Can anyone help. I think they had a daughter called Margot. alfredgoodson@tiscali.co.uk

depressed of bolton
i am gutted, christmas and mothers day will never be the same again. My daughter is scouring every woolies for the last box as I write.

DJ
I love the chocolate i cant believe that it is shuttting down :(

Virginia
I'm trying to find Anthony Terry of the Terry Chocolate families. Does anyone know how to reach him?

sophie
my friend charlotte terry is grandaughter of peter terry so it is sad for both of us. we will miss terry's so much. i first had terry's chocolate when i was 5.

kristen town
Please please bring back the neapolitans. They remind me so much of my childhood and most of all my mother. Thinkd of what a money maker they could be .

Linda, Stuttgart/Germany
My Aunt owned a sweet shop in Herts and each year gave me a beautiful casket of Terry's chocolates for my birthday. The casket was my pride and joy and for 50 years I've searched for such caskets whenever in England. What a shame they'll now never be produced again - but I'll always treasure that childhood memory. Thank you, Terry's !

Kellee Buckthorpe
I love Neapolitans and as I am pregnant I really fancied a box I am gutted that they are not being made anymore. Bring back the Neapolitans!!!!!!!!!

Jo
In mourning for Terry's Neapolitans - life will never be the same again.

Andrew
Christmas without Neopolitans! it just wasn't the same this year,bring them back PLEASE.

margaret sheffield
Neapolitans ther is nothing like them. We enjoy them particularly at Christmas and the younger generation had also come to like them. Terry's A GREAT loss to York and Great Britain. We have lost too many of the favourite better confectionary brands.

Jane
I am gutted that there will Neapolitans no more, we also had them every Christmas. I now have to tell the rest of the family !!!

Debbie
My daughter loves Neopolitans - its traditional to have them in her xmas stocking!!

ian , skipton
you can still get neopolitans from various woolworths but need to look

Becky of Saline
Farewell, fair Terry's. Alas, poor York. Alas poor chocolate lovers everywhere. Christmas will never be the same. An orange made in any other country will never smell as sweet, nor taste so divine.

Pam and Lesley
We adore Neopolitans ! Will thery still be made- we will be bereft without them!

karen norfolk
any more neapolitans

Don
All I really need to know is, where can I get hold of Terry's Neopolitans. (Terry's Naps)???

Jack in Arizona
I lived most of my life ignorant of Terry's orange chocolate. When I found it at age 81, I immediatly realized that there was no other chocolate anywhere near as good. After only about a year, they disappeared from the shelf in my nearest market. I shopped around, but it had gone everywhere. I now consider my first 80 years, plus whatever may yet come, to be wasted years--with no Terry's orange chocolate. Life is a bummer.

Andy
can you still get Neapolitans ?

Ben
I'm very sad that there won't be a nice warm chocolaty smell in the air on a cold York morning any more, childhood memories have deminished

R
Will there ever be a product in the future which is "Made in Britain", with a company owned by a Brit? Or are we going to continue seeing the *very* specific "Made in the EU" mark on everything? The Question we have to ask ourselves is Exactly how did Britain's industry become so small in such a short amount of time..

Amanda
I along with most other Yorkies am very sad to see the closure of Terrys Factory in York. My Mum, two Aunts And Mother-in-law have all worked for Terrys mostly during the war years. The factory holds a special place in our families memory box. Why do we have to lose everything that is special to our country in the name of multinational trade?

Alan
Chocolate production did NOT stop to make propellers. Terrys simply provided space fo r the manufacturer, in the same way they hosted Hartleys Jams.

W.Wonka
Save Terry's - Bring in the oompa loompas! The unions may object but at least it'll stop the property developers creating miserable appartment lifestyles for hundreds of poor unfortunate souls.

ashm
typical of this country! everyone knows that holiday chocolate tastes horrible, unfortunately that is all we are going to be left with. PLC's only have one thing in mind, profits for shareholders, they don't care for the consumer

Gerry Taylor, Brampton, Ontario, Canada
What a shame that production is moving off-shore. Local jobs sacrificed on the altar of corporate profits...........

anne
As an ex pat ,a yorkshirelass I am sad to see Terrys of York going.Every christmas I would look forward to my terrys chocolate orange in my christmas stocking.Terrys have produced some really nice chocolate over the years and provided jobs to the york community .It seems that all the good productions are being moved to other countries.Friday will be a sad day for york but also a sad day for britain when terry,s closes down its production.

Caroline Alexander
Does anyone know about the history of the houses off Scarcroft Road (Russell Street), near Bishopthorpe Rd, which I believe were built or used for housing for the workers at the terry's factory in the past? many thanks

Jim
If we rationalise all our products and manufacturing pretty soon we will only be able to buy vanilla flavoured products. Those with character and sparkle will have been destroyed by global manufacturers who have no thought other than for the profitability of their companies. Try buying a bar of dark chocolate in any high street in the UK it's very difficult to find, but non-chocolate (white) is everywhere. When will we stop the rot and insist on diversity of choice. It will probably cost us more in the long run but at least the choice will be ours and not some faceless being in another country.

Les Naylor, Kingston upon Hull
It's typical nowadays for our traditional companies to be bought out by larger concerns and then eventually thrown by the wayside because profit margins do not meet up to expectations. I can't imagine any of the foreign confectioners recreating our original product with the affection that must have been felt by our factory workers?

DLS Cape Town
There is absolutely nothing like a Terry's of York Chocolate Orange.Terry's of Uppsala does not have quite the same ring does it?

CS, South Africa
From this article it sounds as though the factory is closing (which is in and of itself a shame and a loss) but the production of Terry's Orange will continue... Is this right? Or are the Terry's Orange delights no longer going to be produced at all? It would be such a loss as I go out of my way to beg and grovel at the feet of friends who are visiting the UK for whatever reason to bring me back just one Terry's Orange!! Sad.

A Student
So with the closing of the factory will Terry's chocolate orange become a thing of the past? And do we know a date for the factory to close on? please reply. [I'm afraid we don't know about ongoing production plans. You would have to contact the owners of Terry's. Ed.]

Tim
I'm a british expat living in Hong Kong. If you want to do ANY business here you have to prove how and why it will be beneficial to Hong Kong. This is reviewed once a year. A ploy that could work for the UK perhaps?

Keith Broughton in Toronto, Canada.
I am an ex-pat from Yorkshire, and Terry's chocolate was always preferred by my family for Christmas treats. After the War, we didn't have money to waste, so when we had some, we bought Terry's. Oh! What a lovely confection. After living in Canada, and courting the young Canadian ladies, I introduced some of them to Terry's ,especially at Christmas. They were used to the local product which was no comparison, and they were "Hooked on Terry's". We, in Canada are suffering the same fate to our industries as you are in the U.K. Living in Toronto, my purchases firstly go to Canadian, then British, the U.S.,and Australia.

*ash*
it shouldnt close terrys is a mint chocolate!!!

Brian Northam
Re Terry's Chocolate closure,for some time now I have stopped buying Terry's products,I'm not sure what the new company has been doing to the product but its not the same.Terry's used to have the best chocolate in the UK,now I don't like it. Suggest they reopen the York Plant and go back to the way the chocolate used to be made.

Joan Parsons, Cape Town, South Africa
I am absolutely devastated to find that we are unable to buy any of the wonderful Terry's Chocolate Oranges in Cape Town anymore. Now I am even MORE devastated to read that the factory is closing down. What a huge loss! It was the one bit of confectionary I really enjoyed, after first experiencing the taste of this delicious chocolate in York in 1980. This is, indeed, the end of an era!

Gordon Manby, Florida, USA
Terry’s chocolate’s was and is an institution to the world of English confectionary. I’m devastated that this wonderful product is no longer available to the discerning dark chocolate lovers around the globe. More tragically, is the loss of jobs to the hard working employees who contributed to the success of the company and who made the name of Terry’s, a world leader in the confectionary industry. Gordon Manby Florida, USA

Frank M.
I'm an American and a big fan of Terry's, and I'm very very sad to hear that it will no longer be made in York. ENGLISH chocolate has a long tradition of excellence and that's a large part of what I was buying. So sorry.

Caroline
Its time we did boycott all these companys who are sending it all abroad. Time us British make an example. So lets do it and do it now.

paige hudson
Nestle is the biggest and best and holds alot of memories for my grandma who has reached the age of 109 and has worked there for 87 years

Ian
My Grandfather and Grandmother met and fell in love whilst working at Terry's. Ever since it has been a family tradition to give each other Chocolate Oranges at Christmas time. Now that Terry's effectively doesn't exist anymore and is just another brand I will have to have a hard think whether to carry on the tradition.

Kenneth
Not to say I don't like British products and that I'm insensitive to this event, but I am glad to see a colonial industry ending. We do not need such endeavours to prove our worth anymore, for we do no longer live in that era. I'd rather see the rebirth of the licorice crop in York on a larger scale than Pontefract. I prefer the taste of licorice over chocolate anyways. It's rather difficult to get true licorice these days. I instead find myself perusing over fake licorice. What sorrow is there in this closure? Revert to licorice, please!

Carol
Before long we wont have anything british it will be all imported how long will it be before the chocolate orange will have a differnt name it makes me so angry

Marc
It's a wider issue than York- the exporting of jobs overseas to save a few quid. It's particularly sad to see old Quaker firms like Terry and Rowntree, once renowned for their ethical standards, falling into the hands of greedy corporates and being asset-stripped like this. I must now add Terry and Kraft to my list of companies to boycott. If industry after industry is moved abroad, who is going to buy their products? Only the insolvency practitioners will make money! It's not just manufacturing, service industry jobs are going, too (to answer Paul's comment). We can't have a country with no manufacturing- the balance of payments defecit will just grow and grow. Look at the USA- technically, the US is bankrupt: only the strength of the dollar saves it from foreclosure, and we don't have that luxury. Even the City of London is not the powerhouse it was- the financial services axis of Europe is tilting towards Frankfurt. Will the last person to leave the country please turn out the lights?

Roy G
I for one will boycott any Terry,s product from now on. I am sick of these greedy companies dumping their workforce on the scrapheap and moving them elsewhere for cheaper labour costs. I wish it could be made illegal. Maybe if enough of us boycott these companies they will take notice

Rick
I've been thinking for a long time now, if we don't react then our jobs will be next. Boycott Kraft and anyone else that moves British jobs abroad and that includes those setting up Indian call centres. The staff of these do not pay uk tax or help support the businesses the rest of us work for. It's what the rest of the world do, why are we so soft and a walkover? Act now or don't complain later. Boycott offshore and buy British.

Terence Wright
We can't keep on importing everything; it will become a balance of payments crisis and affect interest rates and cause recession in the future.

Greg Bentham
I am sure IF a large number of people stopped buying Kraft products things may change within a few weeks. speak with your purses

Paul
I'm surprised that people seem to feel that a UK plc without manufacturing isn't "viable" in some sense. Of course it is. Shareholders will simply receive their dividends from companies located abroad, and non-shareholders will provide services in the UK.

John
The world wide companies who spread their production facilities around the world as they develop their business, is a natural progession following the markets etcetera . Instead of trying to stop the inevitable. there should be more action taken to encourage new business an and not drive others away with high business taxes ,poor road transport ,dissuading road users from using the City with the high parking charges etcetera.

M
Very sad to see yet another home grown business fade away. It's about time we started to look after our own. What will we have to be proud of in another 50 years time? What about the morale of the country? Don't we have enough new housing being built everyday that's unaffordable by the majority?

Neil
Simple Solution : boycott Toblerone, Suchard, Kenco, Dairylee "cheese", Philadelphia "cheese" & see how Kraft react. Most of their products are */&!@ anyhow.

Andrew
If governments had the intestinal fortitude to charge the multinational companies for the real costs of moving production off shore: ie. job creation programs, staff retraining with financial support and if all else fails charge them for the welfare payments that will have to be payed to displaced workers. The multinationals might then look at their social contract with a community, and not just the next quarterly returns.

Dan Forster
Councillor Steve Galloway said that 'There is a very large barrier to be jumped for anybody who aspires for that site to be used for anything else" - where these barriers not there for Tenneco and Donnelleys and what about Thales - that doesn't seem to have been mentioned in the scheme of things? - Bad to see Terry's go and not a lot of hope that York will do anything to encourage industrial use of the site - too interested in making money (look at the Barbican project!)

Chris
When will the first flats be on the market?

KARL
MY DAD WILL LOSE HIS JOB AT TERRYS AFTER MORE THEN 20 YEARS LOYAL SERVICE,HE HAS A GOOD PENSION ECT,ITS THE YOUNGER WORKERS WITH FAMILYS I FEEL FOR,THE TERRYS SITE IS WORTH A FORTUNE DUE TO THE LOCATION ,RIVER,RACECOURSE AND CLOSE TO TOWN.NO DOUBT MORE EXCLUSIVE FLATS WHICH MOST YORK PEOPLE CAN NOT AFFORD WILL BE BUILT.ITS ANOTHER HUGE LOSS TO THE YORK PEOPLE,ALL YORK WILL HAVE LEFT IS NESTLE AND CRAVENS ,BUT NOT FOR MUCH LONGER.

Robert Johnson
How will I possibly cope without the rich smell of chocolate drifting northwards across the city to perk me up on gloomy winter days in York?

Nick
I find the closure of Terry's really sad, how long till absolutely everything sold in this country is imported? Absolutely scandalous. Our farmers get subsidies to make it viable for them to compete with abroad, why not our manufacturers?

Chris
If we sell out to foreign firms, what do we expect? They do not have any loyalty to this country and any history involved is ignored. If we don't like it, then don't buy the products. I used to eat the Terry's Waifers (much chunkier than Kit Kats)when they were still being made in York. Kraft totally changed the design of them (two thick bars into four thin ones)and now have them made in Belguim. Having tried one, never again...partly because of not being made in UK, but also because most of the chocolate disintergrated onto my lap. I wonder when Nestle are going to start moving production out of York...or has it already started?

Richard
Its a sad day. Three generations of my family worked in chocolate manufacturing in York. Its just another example of Globalisation and the lack of will for our politicians to champian our manufacturing industry. As for York, we have lost our Rail Manufacturing, and chocolate manufacturing is going the same way, with no high wage, high skill work replacing the old industries. Yet property price sprial by people moving from the south, this is, forcing people born and bred in the city to move away from their roots to find work. This is why I've had to move from my home city. At where I work which was once a jewel of our manufacturing industry, a 1000 redundancies have been announced with more to come in the next few years, because of the lack of orders and support from the government. Its a sad state of affairs in this country.

Brian
Given that "Kraft" appear to have their finger in many pies (excuse the pun), why not bocott the Companies products? A national stand against a multi national compny !!

Terry Washinton DC
one of my first jobs was at Terry's it will be a sad day when they close

Tim
Maybe it could be turned into a museum of chocolate, since leisure an tourism seem to be the only industries that survive in York.

J.ELLIOTT
My small local town in Northumberland lost it`s factory with 300 jobs.Locals had worked 20-40 years for this company.Although it`s devastating at the time.You have to remain positive.There are other jobs and a life after redundancy.

DJB
I worked for Terrys during the late 70's. Employed 2400 when I joined 1800 when I left five years later. Old fashioned management then, resistant to change with a belief in a God given right to carry on the way they had always done. Since then downsize after downsize - the writing has been on the wall for many years. Sad all the same, those jobs have gone forever. Bring on the developers - another retail park or over-priced executive homes? Just what sort of country are we leaving the next generation?

Mike Warwick
Having just moved back to York after being made redundant myself I really feel for the people impacted by this news. I am particularly sad as I worked at Terry's during the 1980's and met my wife there, still married after 21 years. To those involved it seems like the end of the world, but the future can be positive and enjoyable. My advice is to take all the help and assistance offered and help and support each other to get through the early dark days. I am sure the people of Terry's will come through and make a new future for themselves.

Andrew Barrass
most york people will have hade some kind of connection with the factory. I myself met my wife there and its a sad day not only for the workers of york but for the history of york too. Lets hope we dont see more so called ' luxuary appts' in its place

Phil Borland
Thatcher may have closed the mines, but she brough Nissan, Toyota and Honda to the UK. This government is presiding over the wholsale closure of British Manufacturing and doing nothing about it. Note that some of the production is going to Sweden - a non - Euro country, exchange rates are important but most important is a business freindly environment, which the UK does not have

DMC
When will we learn, someones short term gain (selling Terrys) will be a loss forever in York.

Phil
Whilst we must accept that Kraft have made the right decision for their business, and failure to do so would have lead to their eventual decline, the wider question this highlights is exactly what are we going to be doing in this country to pay our way in 30 years? Can you really run a country on selling insurance to each other and running coffe bars, or do we have to re-learn how to make and sell things to the rest of the world? What impact on this does the desire to keep more and more young people engaged in non-vocational education have?

Anon
The loss of business to the USA destroyed the volume at the York Plant Plain, simple and True

Andrew
This is the inevitable consequence of multinationalism. If your local company is bought by a multinational company then you are at the mercy of the proverbial "market forces". I'm very much afraid that York is going to see worse than this - Nestle didn't buy Rowntrees to keep it in York for ever. What can you do? Say no to offshored production?

A.dickinson
Will somebody tell the Estate Agents in York that this means less people able to pay £100,000 for their first home !!!! Not that they will listen.

Graham
We've already moved production of everything electrical to the far cheaper far east, how long before all the other industry goes to eastern european countries? Welcome to the new europe folks.



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