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Is
war with Iraq inevitable? Has the decision for military action already
been taken? Do you feel you have been consulted?
Should
Britain be supporting American aggression against Iraq?
Have your say on the posssible war.
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there's
nothing more to be said as the people have spoken.however,
one thing remains clear,i.e.,the iraqis should be given the
chance of crucifying or acquitting this man.why should his
case be different from that of the erstwhile dictator in croatia(bosnia-herzegovnia)?
makanjuola gbenga, Ilesa,Nigeria
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We
NEED a war with Iraq! If you say that we don't have enought
evidence, I must ask you, what are you waiting for? We have
not found out for sure that they have weapons of mass distruction,
but we have not found evidence that they DON'T have them either.
Obviously, they are not going to come out and show us pictures,
saying "here, please start a war with us." I'd rather not
wait to find out if they have them the hard way. Besides,
there should be no questions if they have them or not; they
were suppose to have distroyed 12 years ago! This alone is
a threat to many countries, and if we don't take a stand to
threats, our country will not be around much longer. This
alone may seem a little mean of me, but if we went to war,
it would also be for the good of the Iraqi people, in the
long run. They may, and probably will, have to suffer for
a while, but don't you think it would be a lot better to get
rid of the! sick dictator, who is torturing his own people
in ways that are not acceptable to mention here? It's like
getting a shot for a sickness. The shot hurts for a while,
but in the end, you end up being a lot better off. For all
of those people who are protesting the war because of all
the people that would be killed, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GET
UGLY! If not for all the bloody battles that the United States
has had in our past, we would not be a superpower. I hate
that things sometimes have to come to this, but when you are
dealing with lives that will be killed for the next hundred
years by the Hussein family, you have to take drastic action
to stop it. This is not a war for oil, either! Hello! We are
just helping them set up a government! And don't tell me that
we haven't cared about when other dictators have tortured
their own people. If we went to war against all of them at
once, we would get nowhere. And it is our buisness as far
as I'm concered. We have a responsi! bility to help others
because of our position as a superpower. STOP whining about
saving peoples live and do something about it: stop the evil
dictator who puts his own people through shredders! (And stop
protesting President Bush, he is a great president who could
really use our support! i am proud to say that i support him
with all my heart.)
Jennifer, South Carolina, USA
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I
believe that we need to back our country up. Yeah I understand
that with this war many innocent people will die and our economy
is not in the best of shape, but sometimes you just got to
do what you have to do. I stand behind President Bush 100%,
because it takes a lot to be the leader of a country. ~I am
so proud to be an American!~
Cindy, Ohio
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I
hate to bring the aspects of 9/11 into the argument, but after
that act, the US made a pledge to fight terrorism wherever
it happens. Saddam has offered $25,000 to the families of
suicide bombers, that is a raise from the $15,000 he was offering
pre 9/11. Obviously promoting terrorism. Furthermore, Saddam
is responsible for the systematic killing of 1.5 MILLION people
in his own country. This is in my eyes an act of terrorism
... creating fear for a large number of people through violence
and death. Just because it is not happening on our soil doesn't
mean that we shouldn't do anything. Saddam isn't going to
just step down from his post because the world wants him to,
he isn't going to disarm when the citizens of his country
would revolt and overthrow him if he didn't have chemical
weapons, let's get real. If you want to protest the war fine,
do it in your own homes (letter writing), and not on the streets
where! your doing nothing but screwing up other peoples livelihood
(blocking streets/ emergency vehicles). Realize that you live
in countries where you are able to express your opinions and
that if you did this kind of stuff in Iraq you would have
been put in a wood chopper, your children would be killed,
or your entire coalition of peace advocates would be gassed,
and we wouldn't have anything to say about it. If you want
peace in the world you have to start going after those who
oppress freedom and personal opinion.
Rob , Ohio
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I
back the usa and uk wholeheartedly on the subject of iraq,everyone
has their own oppinions,and i respect each to their own,i
just feel the toppleing of saddam hussein from power can only
be a good thing in making the world a safer place,and am 100%
in hoping all our troops along with their american allies
are as safe as is possible during such an operation of whats
happening in iraq,and that the uk population at least wishes
them the utmost best wishes in their safety during the coming
days/weeks etc....
Darren, Teesside
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I
maybe only 17 years old but I know that this war is a disgrace.
I recently attended a anti-war march in Leeds before war was
announced, everyone who was there was outraged at the prospect
of war, I feel that this war is totally unjustified & should
never have started, it has put America & Britain to shame.
Thousands of innocent people will die because of it.
Tom, Ripon
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These
are the start of a new dark age for humanity. The war in Iraq
has starkly illustrated the awsome power of the high priests
of oil-guzzling plastic worship (America). We are now entering
an age where endeavour, culture, the arts and higher aspirations
will be superceeded by superficiality, junk-food, trash media
and selfishness. All this against the background of one of
the most dangerous periods in world history. Woe betide us
all.
Graham, York
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what
if they start bombing europe? anybody might want to bomb europe
at anytime because we are a war the threat is just increaesed
thats all.to be honest i think that is a little selfish because
think of the poor kurds and other innocent iraq's going through
the bombings? weve got it easy so far
rachel, malton
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I
think war is stupid. what if the start bombing Europe.
vicky, london
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All
credible UK MPs should absolutely insist on going via the
UN - or they make us electors responsible for its demise as
an essential force for order in world affairs. If this government
ignores the UN path, it is legally and morally compromised,
and it deserves to fall. As a taxpayer, I'm unwilling to foot
the bill for avoidable carnage not sanctioned by the UN or
by any democratic forum. As a postgraduate student of 1930s
diplomacy, I'm intensely worried at the poorest-quality exchanges
on our behalf which have become the hallmark of post-9/11
US international relations and are increasingly infecting
the UK. Why do you think the proposed war has not attracted
more than 3-4 states in total? We won't gain an appropriate
influence for good in the world by puerile namecalling. There
is zero comparison with the German threat in 1938: a) the
US today can bomb Iraq flat; and b) our current leaders are
pushing war with the insight of myopic gnomes. A civilized
country which is the stronger party in such a confrontation
should use its strength intelligently to prevent war. Especially
if the alternative rides roughshod over international initiatives,
international objections, and international law.
Adrian Clayton, York
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There
is some value in every opinion on these pages, both for and
against the war. My standpoint is that why do we accept that
it has to be that way, History has shown us that what we call
Politics and Diplomacy simply do not work because of the reasons
stated by both Rachel and Phil, dishonesty, greed, 'horse
trading', the willingness to sacrifice life because 'that's
the way it is', it's only that way because of the so called
Law of the Jungle. This conflict if it comes about has nothing
to do with the good of the people of any Race, it's about
the Master Races of Politicians and Business becoming even
stronger, that's why Mugabe, Israel/Palestine, Korea have
been ignored, they have no fiscal value. There IS a very serious
moral issue here, one which should be sorted by the whole
world, shoulder to shoulder, 50 deep on the borders of Iraq
so that all Saddam could see was the end of his reign of terror.
That will not happen, as time goes on the thinking world can
see that the people who control this World are in their own
way just as corrupt as Saddam himself, especially with Bush
steering the ship. Since this Government came to power the
number of Millionaires in this country has more than doubled
but there are more than a million children living below the
official poverty level,(Gov.Stats).
Bob , Thirsk
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In
reply to Bob's comment Ii do agree
that it would most probably be a better place if we had a
mixed race goverment but my confusion with this, and not being
at all racist, that over the past hundreds of years we have
fought battled and died on numerous accounts to make sure
our country, and others, are not over ruled by somebody who
wants 'it all' to put it simply (and there i am most certainly
NOT saying other races want it all). Of course with the oil
rigs and things aside I do believe this is what the iraq 'good'
people need. People say that innocent iraqs will die, but
how many innocent britsh people died fighting for us on the
front line and back home? i dont want to believe this but
people must die to save others. In war it is something that
has happend over the years and no matter how far into the
future and sophisticated we are from the 1600's and further,
you will always get somebody who wants to be better than the
rest.
Rachel, malton
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Let's
face it,like all animals we human are selfish. Besides Bush
and Blair it includes you and I. The economy is bad in the
US and everywhere else, that affects all of us. For Bush,
he wants to get re-elected next year and like his father,
unless he can fix the economy he will not get there. So how
he plans to do that? Tax cut would not do it, but lower the
cost of petro will. During the mid 90s, petro in the US was
less than US$1 per gallon. It has been more more than twice
that ever since Bush become president. Let's look at the oil
price in the US and some published research. As can be seen
during the economy boom of mid 90s, crude oil price was around
$15/b. Nowadays it's more than twice that much. Who control
the price of crude oil? OPEC. Does OPEC listen to Bush?? No.
US consumes around 20 million B crude each day. That's about
$600 million each day at today's price. Or $200 Billion a
year. Once Iraq is under US control, the production & pricing
of Iraqi oil under US control, price of crude could easily
go back to $15/B or even cheaper. That's a $100 Billion a
year boost to the US economy!! We will see the economy boom
of the mid 90's again. Is this good for the US and the world?
Are Bush and Blair doing the right thing? You be the judge.
Tim, Harrogate
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I
have visited this site to air my views but realise that Phil
from York has said it all. I wish to support Phils views Along
with (thankfully) others of this world, I am able to see the
world as it is and not take some ill thought out, blinkered,
moral high ground. Twelve years is long enough. Now its time
to act.
Clif, York
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After
having to go to the Persian Gulf every 6 months since the
Gulf War to protect the Kurds from being gassed by Saddam
Hussein, I think we need to sort the situation out once and
for all. Anyone else who has done this thinks so too.
Rob White, Leeming
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This
'war' would not have needed to happen if the US had completed
the job 12 years ago, the went nowhere near the Iraq capital,
THEY RAN OUT OF FUEL. What about after the war, I heard that
there is a huge pot of money to assist in the rebuild from
the US and firms are already putting their bids in!, BUT only
US firms will be allowed to 'assist in the rebuild'. Why should
those who destroy a country then get the exclusive contracts
to rebuild it, and will the people of Iraq have to pay the
money back (with interest). Do these people want their country
built by America, do they want to be Americanised I believe
the Americans 'trust in God' but they are going to impose
their will on a Moslem country, are they going to convert
Iraq to the christian faith, eating McDonalds and freedom
fries. BUT WILL THEY GET SADDAM or will he disappear, only
to return when it is safe.
Clive, York
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I
feel that we Should go to war with Iraq, they've been playing
games for too long and weapons are appearing in front of U.N.
inspetcors, when iraq claimed they never exsisted.
William, Pennsyvilia
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my
son has just joined the army ,if i thought for one minute
that the war with saddam was unjust i would have done every
thing i could to stop him .if we give in now like the other
turn coats at the un ,who say this man is a threat but we
give him chance to disarm ,when 12 years from now? i dont
think so!.all thugs the only do your will when it is forced
on them.and that is what we must do.
john budden, isle of wight
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The
Iraqi people suffer under the hand of a cruel tyrant, and we
refuse to allow action because "we aren't doing this in Zimbabwe/N
Korea/Iran/... insert despotic nation here"
If we really are concerned for the defence of the human
rights of the Iraqi people, why make them contingent upon
the defence of the Zimbabwean people? Yes, we do need to do
something about Zimbabwe, and yes, conceivably, military action.
Similarly, to argue that Iraq's WMD store (and of course
we will have intelligence to prove the existence of such a
store) shouldn't be dealt with, because we're ignoring other,
similar, issues, is to miss the point.
The issues may be similar, but they're not linked - deal
with each in isolation.
Just because a few oil tycoons in America will be raiding
their piggy banks if troops go into Iraq, there is an unjustifiable
assumption that military action is being directed for the
reason that it will serve America's economic and energy needs.
I don't believe Pres. Bush and co. are able to understand
how the rest of the world sees them, for which reason, their
reasoning is never particularly lucid.
To accuse the US and UK of bribing minor nations is to misunderstand
international diplomacy. How do people think conflict is sorted
out? By soundly arguing that something is morally right (or
wrong)?
If we live in the real world, we have to accept that international
diplomacy always carries with it horse trading - or was Dominique
de Villepin simply standing on the common history of France
and Guinea?
To pick up on something that appears on many, many posters
and placards, the linking of Iraq with other Middle East issues
is specious.
I support war in Iraq and the creation of a Palestinian
state. Now, why try and link the two issues, and so risk losing
my support for the one, at the cost of the other?
The first casualty in a time of war is no longer the truth
- it's well-reasoned argument.
Phil, York
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