Rev James Thompson , from Holywell in North Wales, sent in the following email:
Now 73 years of age I still remember a most moving song once sung, I believe, by John McCormack in the 1940s when I was a projectionist at The Strand cinema, Belfast. They were lovely days and the people were superb.
However, the words went something like this: "lowly I wandered through scenes of my childhood" .... and went on about the school house and the old folks now gone. About the house deserted with no light in the window. And then it ended up with: "Why stand I here as a ghost and a shadow? Tis time I was leaving. Tis time I had gone".
I'd most dearly like to either get a CD, audio cassette or sheet of this music
and if you would help me then I'll be very grateful
indeed.
Listen to a small snippet (due to copyright restrictions)
of this poignant song.
YOUR RESPONSES
John Callaghan - June '08
What a song---beautiful!
Steve Vipond - Feb '08
That snippet I believe is one song off the album with
other tracks 'Those Endearing Young Charms' and 'Killarney.
I also believed song was featured on 'The Greatest
Tenors Album' featuring Webster Booth, Richard Tauber,
with the baritone voices of Australian Pete Dawson
and American Paul Robeson.
I have in my possession Josef Lockes Greatest hits
Album, where he performs that nostalgic number.
I do hope this information has assisted you to a certain
degree relative to purchasing this song and performer
the great John Mccormack.
Kind regards, and you can email me anytime if you
require anymore information relatlve to this query.
Brian Whitters - Jan '08
Brian from Scotland on brianatauchinglendotcom
is desperately looking for the sheet music for the
beautiful Irish song Grace, can anyone help?
John Barwell - Jan '08
Do you know where I could purchase a recording of this
song by John McCormack?
Bill McLean - Apr'07
My Dad was a singer and the song herein comes to mind.
Some of your readers may know it.
"There's an old fashioned lady, with old fashioned
clothes, And a smile that bids welcome to you.
There's an old fashioned bedside where she kneels
and prays, When the toil of a long day is through.
Though she wears no fine clothes, or some rich silken
hose, Sure there's something that makes her sublime.
'Tis the angels above, showed the way how to love,
To that Old Fashioned Mother of mine.
Bob Landry - Mar '07
I will be singing "The Old House" and "Grace"
next week for St Patrick Day Celebrations. I first heard
both of them sung by Anthony Kearns on the Irish Tenors
TV show. I love Irish ballads, but these 2 are my favorites.
I perform over a dozen Irish songs in my presentaion,
accompanying myself on guitar.
You may find this is strange, coming from a Louisiana
"Cajun", direct full blooded descendant of
the "Acadians" who were deported from Acadie
(Nova Scotia) in 1755.
James Hennessy - Nov '06
The song 'The Old House' brings back sad memories of
my dear mother 'Anne Hennessy ' of Kilmanagh co kilkenny
who passed away in march 1994. I Remember her singing
this lovely old haunting song when I was young lad around
1952, I was nine at the time and my brothers and I used
to wander down a small road near where we lived, on
that road were two or three deserted old houses, I remember
walking on the slippery mossy cobbles in the yard of
one of those old houses with it's broken windows and
battered door. Even now I can remember staring at it
for a long time thinking Mammy's song must have been
written about this house, It was a dusky summers evening,somehow
that made it more poignant. I had forgotten the words
of the song, apart from the first line and a couple
of hours ago i put it on google's search engine and
up came this wonderful site. I would like to thank those
people who took time to put the words of this song on
this site. I have now book marked it and just in case
this old antique computer of mine blows up, I have written
the word down as well.
Ron Hall - Nov '06
Micheal Baumann if you will kindly email me your address
I shall be pleased to oblige. In my view the more who
have this beautiful song, the better. My email address
is hazronuk @ aol.com
Michael Baumann - Nov '06
I wonder whether the invaluable Ron Hall is still offering
his music service to 75-year-olds.... If so here's another
75-year-old Nostalgic who would love to have a copy
of the music for The Old House and pay as necessary.
Nancy McGiveron - Oct '06
If you look on the National library of Music in Australia
they have the song only it is Jeannine I dream of Lilac
Time on their search engine. I have found that this
is a mine of early 20 century songs that you can download
the sheet music for.
R - Oct '06
It doesn't sound like anyone has been able to find the
sheet music to"Janine, I dream of Lilac Time"
yet, but if you have, I'd appreciate your information.
My friend Janean is having a birthday soon & would
love it. Thanks! colemankandr @ tds . net
Jim Simpkins - Sep '06
I was raised in Rush, County Dublin by my grandparents
and my grandmother often sang this song as she went
about the housework.
Lonely I wander through scenes of my chidhood, They
bring back to memory those happy days of yore.
Gone are the old folk, the house stands deserted, No
light at the window, no welcome at the door.
Here's where the children played games in the heather,
Here's where they sailed their wee boats on the burn.
Where are they now? Some are dead, some have wandered.
No more to their home will those children return.
Lone is the house now and lonely the moorland.
The children are scattered, the old folk are gone.
Why stand I now like a ghost and a shadow?
It's time I were moving, it's time I passed on.
There may be other verses that I have since forgotten.
This song sums up everything that Ireland means to
me.
In the late 40's my parents brought me to England and
life changed.
You can visit the scene but you only visit the time
in your memory.
Janine Shurr - Sep '06
I too was named by my parents after the song "Janine
I think of lilac time" my father was a muscian
duing the big band era, he and my mother would also
sing this song to me. Both have passed on, and I was
curious about finding the song. Great sight I will frequent
it to read. Thanks Janine
Robert Downes - Aug '06
I always remember my late father singing "The Old
House" in the 50's & 60's, generally when shaving
in the bathroom! I remember thinking at the time how
the lyrics were so sad and now even more so that I have
left the "scenes of my childhood".
Frank Bowe ,Dunmore East , Co. Waterford -
Aug '06
Rev.J Thompson, sheet music, Olde House, could probably
be got at chappels, in Bond ST. London.
I would like the words of a song, My fairest child I
have no song to sing you, by McCormack, also Abscense,
sung also by McCormack.
Regards.
Terry Gourlay - July '06
Hello There,
if anyone has found the lyrics for Janine I dream of
Lilac Time,I would be grateful to have them,It was a
very popular song in Australia for a long time tjgourlay
@ hotmail.com Thanks Terry.
Janine Anderson - July '06
This is amazing. I was also given the name Janine because
of this song. My mother used to sing it to me but all
I can remember is the first line. I'd love to have the
song on a CD or even the sheet music.
Ron Taylor - June '06
My name is Ron Taylor & I am emailing from Aberdeen
Scotland, Hello and good evening to all contributors
in this discussion thus far; particularly in connection
with both 'Grace' and 'The Old House'.
Myself, along with some family members have recently
been in to see the Dubliners at the Celtic Connections
in Glasgow earlier this year, where the group played
both these melodies (See thier 40 years reunion twin
DVD live from the Gaiety theatre in Dublin Celtic Collections
CCDVD 290). Banjo Player Barney McKenna's version of
The old house is beautiful - no additional accompaniment.
As a harmonica player playing Folk, Irish & Scottish
Jigs, reels & Hornpipes etc. purely for my own pleasure;
I too am having difficulty finding the sheet music for
these two lovely old songs,
I would in turn be willing to purchase said copies
- or contribute to a/your nominated charity reference
copyright rules & the age of these songs.
My E Mail address is rashp at btinternet.com. I would
welcome any help & assistance. My thanks in appreciation
Rosemary Conry - June '06
Dear Reverend Thompson,
I am so happy to find this website and to read so many
wonderful comments and memories of 'The Old House.'
My father used to sing it at musical evenings in our
home in Dublin and the memory of his voice, together
with the words of the song still move me to tears.
I have written a memoir about growing up in Dublin
in the 1940's, with the title 'Why Stand I Here,' and
so needed to be reminded of the words of the song. My
first memoir, 'Flowers of the Fairest' was published
in 2002 by Brandon
Hing Y Watt - May '06
I am looking for the accompaniment for the song The
Old House.
I have the J. McCormack recording and the lyric. The
lyric I can share with you. I don't know whether it
is legal to email the recording. But if anyone can tell
me how to obtain the piano accompaniment, I would be
most grateful.
Janine Giambalvo - May '06
Hard to believe, but yet again, another Janine named
after the song! My mother used to sing it to me as well.
How amazing--my grandmother (on my father's side) loved
lilacs and said I should be growing a bush in the home
we built seven or eight years ago. She has since passed
on, but my mother brought some to plant when she came
for a visit several years ago. We've since moved to
an older home about two years ago, and lo and behold,
I have a beautiful, HUGE lilac bush in the corner of
our yard. My mother doesn't remember the words and I
do play the piano, so if anyone out there has the sheet
music for "Janine, I Dream of Lilac Time",
would you please let me know? Thanks ever so much!
Geraldine - April '06
Help, saw an earlier post looking for exactly what I'm
looking for, the sheet music for piano and voice for
"Grace".
Ivan Gilbert
For Juanita Sizemore - March '06
I have downloaded quite a few of John McCormack's songs
and have them on my hard drive. They are a treat to
listen to along with a lot of other pre war artists.
Does anyone know the legality of me emailing the song
or songs you want (unless you already have a copy) I
have no sheet music though, my mom, before she died,
had a piano stool full of beautiful old pieces but they
seem to have disapeared.
Dr Ryan Curran - April '06
Hi,
I See the Rev Thomson's article about a dear old song
"the old house".As I child I remember my grandmother
singing this to me (I was brought up with her), and
since her death over a month ago, I have a real desire
to hear the song again - only I cant find it anywhere!!!
Any suggestions where to get it?
Thanks,
Ryan.
Jack Burdall - April' 06
Re the old house. This is on an LP by John McCormack
called "Great Ballads of the Century". It
was my stepfather's and it had a glossary with it which
I'm still looking for.
Mary Borshell - March '06
Would be pleased to pay for a copy if its legal can
someone email a copy ? thanks in anticipation, Mary.
Juanita Sizemore - March '06
I was named after the song, "Juanita". I would
like to get a CD with this song on it.
Mary McCrickard - Mar 06
Since paying a visit recently to the scenes of my childhood,
and finding only a bare hillside where once were cottages,
I find myself singing The Old House constantly, along
with other half forgotten old family favourites - Little
Grey Home in the West, Macushla, and Nirvana to name
just three. When we gathered at Granma's house on Sunday
afternoons for a sing song, each person sang in turn,
always the same song, which became known as their song.My
granma's song was Juanita.
Mary Borshell - Jan '06
Share your sentiments, beautiful piece of music. I to
would love to have the sheet music. Mary in Canada.
Janine Harrison - Jan '06
My father named me after the song, "Janine I Dream
of Lilac Time," and I am writing a memoir entitled
Lilac Time. My parents are buried in the lilac section
of a cemetery, so lilacs inform the story frame.
I'm pasting the words that my mom wrote down when my
father sang them below; I'm not certain if they are
correct. My questions are: who do I give credit to for
this song? And are the lyrics that I have correct?
Any input would be appreciated.
Janine, I dream of lilac time
Your eyes they gleam at lilac time
Your winning smile and cheeks blushing like a rose
Still all the while you smile like nobody knows
Janine, I dream of lilac time
When I return and make you mine
For you and I, our love will never die
Janine, I dream of lilac time
Méabh - January '06
For : Robert M Savage,
I have been looking for ages to find sheet music for
'Grace' if you could send me information on where to
find it i would be very grateful.
Thank you,
Méabh.
The Rev. James Thompson - Jan '06
Thanks a million to dear Ron Hall, I now have a copy
of the sheet music to THE OLD HOUSE. Indeed, if anyone
can send me a copy of sheet music for JANINE I DREAM
OF LILAC TIME, then I'll be more than grateful to receive
the same and happy to pay for costs incurred.
Isn't it incredible the interest that these two songs
I mentioned have since raised? These songs really speak
to one's soul and - to my mind - reflect an age expressive
of deep compassion, sentiment and pathos as well; so
lacking in contemporary 'music' so called. But then
I'm 75 and, no doubt, a trifle old fashioned.
Yes, I AM a sentimentalist (and proud to be one). I'm
actually on BBC2 on Thursday January the 26th at 10pm
blessing animals as well as humans; but if that is not
relevant to this article then feel free to omit it!
Much love to each one of you,
Rev. James Thompson, Peacehaven, Holywell.
Jeanine Pausche - Jan '06
For Anne Auclair. I, too, am searching for the words
to "Janine I Dream of Lilac Time". My mother
(now 82) used to sing that song to me in the mornings
to wake me up. If you have found them, would you please
let me know? Thank you so much and I'm glad I happened
upon this website. Blessings to all.
Robert M. Savage, Jr - Jan '06
To Mr Ron Hall -
Here is my mailing address: Robert M. Savage, Jr, 22118
Solomon Blvd Apt 166, Novi MI 48375
Many, many thanks! I truly appreciate this!
Sincerely,
Rob Savage
Ron Hall - Jan '06
Dear Robert Savage,
Let me have a forwarding address and I will gladly send
you a copy of the music 'The old House'
Regards,
Ron Hall
Robert M Savage, Jr - Jan
'06
To Mr Ron Hall - I would also dearly love to have the
sheet music for "The Old House." As I said
in my previous posting, I am a singer myself and would
love to include this song in my repertoire. By the way,
I have found sheet music for "Grace," so if
anyone is interested in that song, I can pass along
the information on where to find it.
Anne Auclair - Dec '05
For Beverley Bird. If you have not found the lyrics
to: "Janine I Dream of Lilac Time" I believe
I have them on some sheet music. Now, it would take
a bit of searching, but I'm sure I can find them.
Do you still want them or has someone already supplied
you with those lovely words??
I've never posted anything on line before - but music
will always get my attention! I found this site because
I just had a John McCormack CD on and thought to see
what I could find on the web!
Merry Christmas to all - Dec.22/05
Beverley Bird - Dec '05
Hello, everyone...this is the first time I have ever
done this. It is rather strange talking to folks from
all over, isn't it? I'm in Australia. I googled "Janine
I Dream of Lilac Time" and up you popped. I am
trying to find the lyrics for same, but have been stumped
so far. The other song is truly lovely, too. Really
nostalgic "lump in throat" stuff. I danced
on stage to "Janine" when a very little girl
and have always loved it. My dancing teacher named her
daughter after the song. During a bout of breast cancer
and intense chemo, I met a young woman whom had recently
lost her mum to the disease. She was wonderful to me
while I was ill. She does a great deal of fund raising
for breast cancer, and is sunny and loving, and always
adds a ray of sunshine to my shopping days at the local
Coles supermarket (where she works) when I am lucky
enough to bump into her. I call her "Daffodil Girl"
even though her name reminds me of lilacs, because when
I first spoke to her she was selling the daffodils for
cancer funding. I would like to find the lyrics so as
to honour her and her late mother. I suspect that some
of the lyrics may be appropriate, but am not sure. If
not, I will prabably parody, as I often do, but would
love the base of the song on which to work. In hopes
of some success with my request...I wish you all a wonderful,
peaceful loving and giving Christmas. Much Love Beverley.
Rt. Rev'd Dr. Aaron R. Orr
- November '05
Dear Rev'd Mr. James Thompson.
Warmest Greetings to you and to everyone on this really,
truly magnificent list. When you were in the Strand
Cinema I was a wean at my mother's knee. Your religious
experience of Belfast was one that was possible in those
troubled times. When the Celts have a common foe they
never fight one another. I, too, have marvelled at the
poigniant tenderness of "The Old House." It
ranks with Robert Burns' "Bonnie Wee Thing,"
or maybe with Thomas Moore's, "Oft in the Stilly
Night." At any rate, dear Sir, it is a song worthy
of recall in these days of the post nuclear family,
when young folk are looking a generation behind to discover
what it was that made us Celtic peoples last so long.
God less you Brother Thompson and keep a song in your
soul for the journey!
Sincerely,
Rt. Rev'd Dr. Aaron R. Orr -
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Rev. Pastor James Thompson - November
'05
I certainly seem to have created a whole lot of interest
in my request - now two years ago! - concerning John
McCormick singing: The Old House!
How very thoughtful and exceptionally kind are those
who have responded to my query! I feel quite ashamed
not to have replied before now to those who've offered
me a copy of the song; and, not least, to the one who
has offered me a music copy. It so happens that I have
since been able to get a CD from the Chester HMV shop;
but - regrettably - not the music anywhere!
Consequently, I have sung - two years on running -
during an early New Year holiday in Llandudno - both
'The Old House' and also 'Janine I Dream Of Lilac Time'
(another of John Mc Cormack's). But, unfortunately,
I sang unaccompanied as I could not hand the music for
either pieces to the hotel's organist. Nevertheless,
both songs still went down exceptionally well and I
was actually asked if I'd ever considered changing professions?
Well, hardly, at 75!
So, if dear Ron Hall's offer still stands for sending
me a copy of the sheet music for 'The Old House' then
I'll be most grateful indeed. And should someone else
have sheet music for 'Janine I Dream Of lilac Time'
I'd also be equally most grateful.
I spent eighteen months of my life as a young man
in Belfast - sampling Christianity from the one extreme
of the Open Brethren to the other extreme of the monks
at Clonard! Yes, and all that went between! And regardless
of sectarian rivalries, the differing people were amongst
the loveliest I've ever had the honour and privilege
to meet.
Indeed, I refer to such breathtaking days in my early
autobiography just published: 'Young Spiritual Tramp'
(ISBN: 0 9523022 3 3). Should a Review Copy be required,
just let me know. Thank you again
Rev. James Thompson
James Jones - November '05
I can remember as a small boy listening to John McCormack
singing The Old House and now in my later years I can
still hear the singing in my ear I remember my father
buying a Marconi radio and us kids sitting around it
listening to John McCormack and Dalia Murphy's Three
lovely Lassie's from Bannion from Radio Athlone I have
tried to get the music of The Old House here in New
Zealand but without success.
Monica O'Hara-Keeton - July '05
What a beautiful, poignant song. I should love to quote
it, preferably in its entirety, within the context of
an Irish novel on which I am currently working. Can
anyone tell me the position about copyright? My late
father used to sing this when I was a child in our old
house in Bailieborough, Co. Cavan. It's a real tear-jerker,
isn't it?
Ron Hall - July '05
Dear Rev James Thompson,
Re 'The Old House'
Having seen the comments on this website regarding
this song I had no idea it was of such great interest.
I am 72 and still travel around the Midlands area entertaining
and if the audience be of the 'more mature type' I sometimes
include this song. A few weeks ago I was asked by a
gentleman aged 93 if I knew the song and he sang it
with me. He obviously had had a beautiful tenor voice
in his younger days and he told me later that he had
the honour of singing it with the great John McCormack
at a concert in Cardiff 'just before the war'.
I have this song on a CD I have produced and also have
the sheet music which I would gladly let you have copy
of (assuming this is legal?) Look forward to hearing
from you.
Regards,
Ron Hall
Alan - June 05
Around Christmas, Frank Hennessey played this song a
couple of times on his show Celtic Heartbeat
on Radio Wales. The version he played was by an Irish
girl. Josephine Mulvenah (spelling?). The version
was much softer than the Josef Locke style.
Bernadette Wright - May '05
It is just over a year since my mother passed away.
She was born in Castlederg Co. Tyrone and lived in Derry
for the first 19 years of her life. Her father played
the fiddle and had a lovely singing voice. She often
reminised about her early and the songs her dad sang.
One that stuck in her mind was the old house which she
would sing with great feeling. Now that song sticks
in my mind and I can hear her sing it and know where
she was coming from. The words are very appropriate
to where I am today with our family home sold and some
of us scattered. Its funny how things come around. This
song is now known by my children and they smile when
they remember their nana singing it.
Robert M. Savage, Jr. - May 05
I fell in love with this song when I heard Anthony Kearns
sing it on the DVD "The Eseential Irish Tenors
- The Belfast Concert." If anyone can tell me where
I might find sheet music (for piano and voice) I would
greatly appreciate the help. Being a singer myself (but
only part Irish; nobody's perfect) I would love to be
able to include this song in my repertoire. Thank you
in advance for any help anyone can give me. I am also
desperately seeking sheet music (again, for piano and
voice) for a song called "Grace" by Sean and
Frank O'Meara. This song tells the story of Joseph Mary
Plunkett and his lady love, Grace (Gifford?). Having
taken part in the Easter Rising, Mr Plunkett has been
condemned to death, but is given a few moments to marry
Grace. "Grace" tells the story of their last
moments together.
Please, if anyone knows where to find sheet music
for these two songs, I would appreciate the help.
Walter Crawford, Magherafelt - February
'05
I have a cassette of the great John McCormack singing
this beautiful song, as we get older the words ring
very true:
"Lonely I wander through scenes of my childhood.
They bring back to memory the happy days of yore
Gone are the old folk, the house stands deserted.
No light in the window, no welcome at the door"
If the Rev. Thompson cares to email his postal address
to me ( via the form at the foot of the page ), then
I shall be more than happy to send a copy of the cassette,
which includes a number of other songs by McCormack
- accompanied on the piano by the great Gerald Moore.
Theresa Hussey - December '04
My mother died in March 1996 after a long and painful
battle and my father and I found a written copy of these
lyrics in her final diary. At the time this extraordinarily
poignant piece of verse caused more tears than the event
of her death which was such a blessed relief, as it
seemed to be an illustration of how she must have been
thinking and feeling in the weeks of her final collapse.
It is only recently that I have felt the need to discover
the actual source of the words and it is indeed wonderful
to discover that these were lyrics sung by the great
John McCormack. I believe that my mother's mother was
a cousin of the man himself and would explain how mum
would have come across the song.
Of course I shall never know if the diary entry really
reflected how she felt but for someone with such a strong
sense of history and family, it will have struck many
a chord. Now I can read the lyrics without a tear in
my eye, I will try to find a copy.
J W Mugan - December '04
'The Old House' was written for John McCormack’s
farewell tour of 1938 which included Belfast as one
of the stops. Sir Frederick O’Connor wrote the
words and adapted the music from an old Welsh air ('The
Ash Grove'). McCormack recorded the song in late 1939
and his recording is presently available in the UK on
at least three different CDs – Regis RRC1092 -
“JMcC – Irish Tenor Ballads”, Prism
PLATCD289 - “JMcC - The Voice of Ireland”,
and ASV AJA5224 “- JMcC - The Minstrel Boy”.
Alan Kershaw - November '04
Along with Josef Locke's Galway Bay, this was one of
the first songs that I remember hearing as I small boy
in Derry / Londonderry. We had a wind - up gramophone
branded 'Craneophone' which I think my grandfather had
bought in the 'thirties from Crane's (Tughan Cranes)
of Belfast. Anyway, I can still remember how much I
loved the voice of the great Michael O'Duffy singing
The Old House on a 78 rpm, His Master's Voice (HMV)
single - well, it had to be a single; there weren't
any LP's - except in far Americay maybe. I still sing
The Old House to myself. It calls back to memory those
happy days of yore. There are some songs you never lose.
Alexander Thompson - October '04
Dear Reverent James Thompson,
In response to your request for, among other things,
an audio cassette containing "The Old House",
I have an old copy on cassette of Kenneth MacKeller
singing it.
If you are still seeking a copy, I should be glad to
send you a copy if I can sort it out.
In closing may I just say that we Thompsons must stick
together.
Yours sincerely,
Alex.
Joe Kenny - April '04
The Old House
by John McDermott
Lonely I wander through scenes of my childhood
They bring back to memory the happy days of yore
Gone are the old folk, the house stands deserted
No light in the window, no welcome at the door
Here's where the children played games on the heather
Here's where they sailed their wee boats on the burn
Where are they now? some are dead, some have wandered
No more to their home will the children return
Lonely the house now, and lonely the moorland
The children have scattered, the old folk are gone
Why stand I here, like a ghost or a shadow?
'tis time I was movin', 'tis time I passed on.
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