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25 October 2002 1255 BST
Godspell stars talk to BBC Norfolk
Pic: Daniel MacPherson surrounded by fireworks.
Daniel MacPherson lights up the stage in Godspell

Jonathan Wilkes and Daniel MacPherson didn't know each other until they started rehearsing for the nationwide tour of the musical.

Now they're best of mates.


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graphic: open quote marks. Since doing theatre, I'm loving this business again. I got so disillusioned with the pop business.

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The two stars of Godspell have a reputation for being lads.

They admit to being "naughty", such as mooning to BBC staff before doing a live radio interview.

Wilkes said they share a sense of humour and they want to make theatre fun.

Cool theatre

"We're trying to make theatre cool again. We're trying to bring the youth back into theatre - get rid of all the old stuffiness," he said.

Sydney-born MacPherson is best known as Joel from Neighbours. He moved into musicals after doing pantomime in the UK.

Pic: MacPherson and Wilkes in the Radio Norfolk studio.
Graphic: speaker.Hear interview with Daniel and Jonathan (Real 56K 9'56")

He said Godspell is a show he loves.

"Fifteen hundred people laughing or shedding a tear and giving a standing ovation at the end - is so real. It's not something you find happening very often," said MacPherson.

Robbie's pal

Disillusioned with pop, Jonathan Wilkes was born in Stoke-on-Trent and has been a close friend of Robbie Williams since his school days.

He a show on BBC Choice and shortly afterwards went on to sign a five-album record deal with Virgin and had a top 20 hit with Just Another Day.

"Since doing theatre, I'm loving this business again," said Wilkes.

"I got so disillusioned with the pop business. I've been a live performer all my life."

Problems with the entertainment industry were brought home to Wilkes when he was booked to sing on the TV lottery show.

Pop disillusion

"They said, 'You've got to mime'. There's something wrong there. I'm a singer, I love to perform."

Jonathan Wilkes is passionate about live performance.

Six years ago he won the Cameron Mackintosh Young Entertainer of the Year award in Blackpool.

Pic: Jonathan Wilkes dancing.
Jonathan Wilkes loves a dance

He went on to star in his own show at Blackpool Pleasure Beach which ran for three years.

Learning curve

He said that during that period he learnt a lot from old-timers such as Roy 'Chubby' Brown, Frank Carson and The Grumbleweeds.

"These are the true entertainers. These people go on stage every night and have to sing or say the same gags every night and they make it sound as if they're telling it for the first time. They're true pros. You can't get better than that," he said.

Wilkes is not keen on the Pop Idol acts. "They're manufactured like robots. There's no soul."

What does have soul is Godspell.

New for 2002

MacPherson said, "The production team has taken a show that was contemporary in 1972 and have made it contemporary for 2002."

There is even a pastiche of the Richard and Judy Show. MacPherson and Wilkes even swaps roles as Jesus and Judas.

"One night Jesus is from Stoke, the next night he's from Sydney" joked Wilkes.

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