Pitching Obamacare to a tough crowd in Mississippi


The BBC's Mark Mardell assesses what the potential legacy of Obamacare

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The Reverend Michael Minor, resplendent in a mustard-coloured robe, stomps and sways as he belts out the words of his sermon, a synthesizer stabbing and swooping behind his voice.

"I said, are there any saved in the house today - saved, sanctified, filled with the Holy Ghost - who know they've been saved?"

He bounces on his feet, emphatically, keeping rhythm.

The music at Oak Hill Missionary Baptist Church in Hernando, Mississippi, is pretty amazing. But it's not the funk or the faith that sets them apart in the Deep South - it's that fried chicken is banned from church socials.

Mr Minor enforced the ban on such fatty food after he became worried about his congregation's health - he was conducting too many funerals. Now he's got a new cause.

He sees signing people up to Obamacare as a spiritual duty, a cure for his congregation's ills.

"You hurt mentally because you worry about not having insurance," he says.

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They are leaving crying, they're so happy that they have [healthcare]”

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"You hurt physically because you are not getting the check-ups and things you need. And then spiritually because you are wondering about your relationship with God.

"And if you are not careful, you are wondering how God let you get into this spot where you don't have coverage."

Oldest enemy

Mississippi is the poorest state in the US. It also has a huge number of people without health insurance - one in five.

It is exactly the sort of place Obamacare is supposed to help.

But the Republican Governor, Phil Bryant, will not spend government money to expand Medicaid, the US healthcare scheme for the poor. He has halted plans to set up healthcare exchanges, a one-stop online shop for those seeking private insurance.

So the pastor is what is known as a "navigator" for Obamacare - he gets federal funding to sign people up.

"We have more and more people coming to our office here who are excited about having insurance, and they don't look like me," he says, meaning they are white or Hispanic.

"They are leaving crying, they're so happy that they have it."

He's sanguine about the state's opposition - he says people will do what they have to do to get elected. Not all in the congregation feel the same way.

 Michael Minor (C) talks to Ann Littleton (R) and Alice Lewis at a rally held by supporters of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), widely referred to as "Obamacare", outside the Jackson-Hinds Comprehensive Health Center in Jackson, Mississippi 4 October 2013 Michael Minor has rallied for the healthcare law both in and out of church

Harry Rhees tells me it is because Obamacare is a black man's plan.

"There always have been the bit-pickers down here, the white Americans, some, not all, who have to have the last word.

"And when somebody tries to help the middle class and the poor people they don't want it because we always had to go to them."

Mary Bledsoe blames an even older adversary.

"The enemy is always going to try to block something that is good and this will be a good thing for all people who don't have insurance and so the enemy will do all he can to block it."

I check that she is talking about Satan. She is.

Overwhelming hostility

Certainly the Obamacare website has been bedevilled by problems. Despite the enthusiasm here, it is still running into technical issues.

Humana truck in Corinth, Mississippi A mobile health insurance truck in Corinth

"I been trying to get it but I ain't," one man tells me. "There's a conflict there, and I can't pull it up, but I feel it's a good thing."

Aside from the website, the state's ill health makes it unattractive for health insurers - and means premiums will be higher here.

Only two insurance companies are willing to take part. One of them, Humana, is taking its plan out on the road - quite literally.

In Corinth, I watch as a truck pulls into a supermarket car park and two helpers quickly construct the steps to a mobile office, with little booths and computers all ready to work out what insurance people can buy.

One of the agents, Rick Wells, tells me he is a Republican but he likes Obamacare.

"I like the fact that pre-existing conditions don't exist on the healthcare exchange, so I can get insurance for people with diabetes or who have just won a battle with cancer.

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This a constitutional issue”

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"They weren't insurable for five years but now they will be. I think there are many good things to it."

But in the morning I spent at the mobile office, no-one signs up. No-one comes in. In fact, not a single person shows the slightest interest.

There's overwhelming hostility to Obamacare, at least in this car park. Some of it is political.

'It sucks'

"I think it sucks because you have to have it," one man tells me. "Shouldn't be made to have anything if you don't want it. It kind of contradicts the idea of a free country."

Some of it is practical.

"The factory where my husband works has pretty much told all employees that as from next year they'll drop them all," a woman says. "They'll take the penalty and drop the insurance."

She fears new insurance will cost them far more: "We're paying $300 a month and it sounds like from what we hear, we could be paying $900. Big difference."

And the hostility of younger, fitter people could doom Obamacare - if not enough of them sign up by next spring it won't work.

Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant addresses the hundreds gathered for Methodist Healthcare Olive Branch Hospital"s grand opening ceremony in Olive Branch, Mississippi 21 August 2013 Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant has stood in opposition to many of the elements of Obamacare - including expansion of a healthcare programme for the poor

"I think we got to do what we need to do ourselves," one young man says. "I don't think we need anybody else to say whether we need healthcare or not."

Does he have any?

"No sir, I don't."

Will he get it now, as he's meant to?

"I'll probably pay the fine, that's what I'll do."

No 'free lunch'

Some doctors don't like the healthcare law either.

In the university town of Oxford, Dr Erik Richardson argues that medical care is already going badly wrong.

He no longer takes patients on Medicare and Medicaid. It's not worth the bother.

He says every year patients pay more, doctors get paid less and only the insurance companies grow richer. He thinks it will now get worse.

But it is not his only worry.

Mark Mardell talks to Chris McDaniel State Senator Chris McDaniel - a primary challenger for a US Senate seat - tells me Mississippi's poor health is not because of poor healthcare but "bad habits"

"This is a constitutional issue," Dr Richardson says. "You've had 250 years of the constitution and now you have a new law saying you must buy healthcare.

"That's a new law thrust upon the individual by the government. Would it be great to have coverage for all Americans? Yes. Is it a good thing to have a law? I'm not so sure."

But as a doctor in America's sickest state, doesn't he think it is vital to have health insurance?

He says some better-off people prefer to pay out of their own pocket - and now they won't have that choice.

"Always ask who is going to pay that bill, because in my life there has never been a free lunch," he adds. "Somebody, somewhere is buying that lunch.

"Is it going to be the American tax payer? I'm concerned this is just going to make the private health insurance companies richer."

Given the widespread opposition, it is little wonder that the Tea Party has urged Republicans to stand firm and resist the law.

A huge gamble

State Senator Chris McDaniel, a Tea Party favourite, is challenging the Republican US senator who has held the seat for 34 years.

Mr McDaniel is adamant that more is at stake than people's health.

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A lot of people on the other side of the political spectrum, they do recognise it is going to be something that could change a whole generation”

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"What it needs is to respect liberty first and foremost," Mr McDaniel says. "Simply because something is good theoretically, doesn't mean you jump into it in violation of our constitution.

"You have to ask the question can it be afforded, can it be administered effectively and efficiently. And from what we've seen so far it is so structurally deficient that it can't be."

I ask him where that leaves those who don't have healthcare, can't afford it and have terrible health.

"The terrible health in Mississippi, that's not related to the lack of healthcare," he says.

"It is related to some bad habits we all have as Mississippians, myself included. Our diet isn't very good, our exercise isn't very good and it creates some negative health outcomes. That is not related to the lack of healthcare, it is the result of some of us making poor personal decisions."

But Mr Minor thinks Obamacare will become popular and Republicans are frightened of the prospect.

"A lot of people on the other side of the political spectrum, they do recognise it is going to be something that could change a whole generation," he says.

"They want to make it look bad because if it turns out people like it, who are they going to give credit to? Because not one Republican voted for it."

He has a point. But for the Democrats - and for Barack Obama - it is more of a huge gamble than a sure bet.

And states like Mississippi, where the new law is struggling to get off the ground, may determine whether it succeeds or fails.

Television viewers in the UK can watch Mark's report from Mississippi on BBC2's Newsnight at 22:35 GMT and again on iPlayer.

Mark Mardell, North America editor Article written by Mark Mardell Mark Mardell North America editor

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    Comment number 130.

    re. #129 by All for All:
    I'll take our "sham democracy" over others any day of the week. If it needs correcting its because citizens aren't making enough effort to oversee their public servants, not because of any inherent flaws in the system. If something about it bothers you what are you personally doing about it? If the answer is nothing you're part of the problem.

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    Comment number 129.

    Scott0962 @128
    "in a democratic society"

    For the benefit of any younger readers, you refer to a future society, the value of 'free speech' assured by enduring equality of means to resist suppression, means mutually guaranteed of life and living and law of representative genesis, a real equal partnership democracy… I hope.

    You cannot mean our sham democracy under fear & greed?

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    Comment number 128.

    re. #122 Kingsley: If you expect every American to only discuss politics in polite and respectful terms I'm afraid you're doomed to disappointment. There is no right to never be offended, you can't outlaw stupidity, and in a democratic society that values free speech even those with unpopular opinions and distasteful ways of stating them are allowed to express them.

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    Comment number 127.

    I'm happy for the English readers who must be just ecstatic to have their beloved POTUS' face plastered all over their news. Wish we could give the genuine article to you for Christmas!

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    Comment number 126.

    You have obviously not been south for 50 years or so,Detroit,California,most north east states are creaking under the corruption of democrats and unions good old boy deals.The democrats stopped representing the working man a long time ago,now all they represent is the dead beats and parasites of the USA

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    Comment number 125.

    ref #124Obama was not just insulted & called worst names, people like you believed he was born in Kenya & that he is not a US citizen
    Please show proof of me having said that. I put birthers with 9/11 truthers. There is so much to criticize Obama on, that making up facts is not necessary.

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    Comment number 124.

    #123MagicKirin: I never said Obama was the only president called names by his opponents. Whether or not you call George W. Bush a draft dodger, he did use his family influence to avoid being sent to war. So was his VP - Cheney who was for all intent purposes, the president. Obama was not just insulted & called worst names, people like you believed he was born in Kenya & that he is not a US citizen

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    Comment number 123.

    ref #122
    Why is it so difficult for Obama's opponents to agree to disagree without resulting to insults & name-calling?
    Most of us do, but considering how many people call George W Bush, Bush JR or draft dodger don't tell us that Obama is the only one called names

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    Comment number 122.

    #115 Scot0962: You just made my point. Why is it so difficult for Obama's opponents to agree to disagree without resulting to insults & name-calling? Like most Americans, I disagree with your premise that insults, name-calling, disdain&lack of respect for the president & the office of the presidency, come with the job. Policies disagreement is one thing, hate, insults, personal attack is another.

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    Comment number 121.

    120. Dear beammeup,

    Oh, okay. Thank you very much. I really appreciate your clearing me up on that. I'd be lost without your knowledge.

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    Comment number 120.

    @119 marieinaustin "Guess it's just me then."
    Madam is used as a form of polite address to a woman. Only Americans would think the adverse.

    btw adverse means unfavourable.

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    Comment number 119.


    "47. marieinaustin Madam,..."

    Always baffling. Anyone else here think a Madam is a big-bosomed woman who runs a whore house in the old-west? Guess it's just me then.

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    Comment number 118.

    I was looking forward to the ACA rollout & then I discovered how much had been spent on half a portal (no back end) that was not working on time. Waiting for the other shoe to drop: you aren't enrolled until the insurer says so. Amazed so little accountability. In Renown, near Reno NV, other day some fool walked into an ER with a gun & killed some folks. Gun crimes add to health care cost. Waste.

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    Comment number 117.

    Obama now: "You can't keep your old policy because we said it was inferior, but now you can either carry no insurance, or purchase a sub-standard one."

    Another convoluted step to his "Forward."

    It's downright scary how he has his supporters claiming "he just didn't know enough about the roll-out, "all politicians lie," and repeating his: Republican opposition is "sabotage."

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    Comment number 116.

    ref #111
    But, to deny that racism is a big factor to Obama opposition & all the hate & insults, is to bury one's head in the sand.
    No it is a courageous thing to confront the real racist who are the people like you who are throwing out the vile race card.

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    Comment number 115.

    re. 111.Kingsley O:
    "to deny that racism is a big factor to Obama opposition & all the hate & insults, is to bury one's head in the sand."

    No president can make everyone happy, being hated and insulted by those who don't like his policies goes with the job, but unless "moron" is a race I haven't heard anyone I know use racist insults about him.

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    Comment number 114.

    Anyone here think Obama got elected twice if racism is the factor here? Sure, in some quarters, racism is an issue but doesn't the population tire of hearing all opposition to this man categorized in two ways?
    First, any criticism of Obama is racially based.
    Second, critics of Obama are (then ephitets such as facsist, ultra-right, bible thumpers, etc.) and those folks SHOULD NOT BE HEARD!

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    Comment number 113.

    "You do know that there are well-established processes when people owe money to the federal government?"

    Yes, but if the government uses it's power of coercion to enforce an unpopular law it risks creating a political backlash to repeal it--especially one that was passed without bi-partisan support.

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    Comment number 112.

    The very LAST thing the republicans want is a 'healthy' American (that is NOT in with the 'in crowd' i.e. mega money) and so they have and still are doing EVERYTHING in their power (including sabotage) to annihilate the health care system! Just look back at the vast debt they (bumbling Bush & Co.) put YOU in! They NEVER suffered at ALL from debt! In fact they GAINED!

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    Comment number 111.

    Is anyone surprised that most oppositions to Obama & Obamacare are from the southern states? The same states that fought to preserve slavery & fought against desegregation & civil rights for African-Americans. Every policy disagreement with Obama is not necessarily racism. But, to deny that racism is a big factor to Obama opposition & all the hate & insults, is to bury one's head in the sand.


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