Larry Summers: Europe crisis hit by 'realism failure'

 
Larry Summers Larry Summers is a veteran of the Clinton and Obama administrations who is now at Harvard

A top US economic policy-maker has told the BBC of a "deep and profound and continuing failure of realism" by European leaders over the euro crisis.

Professor Larry Summers said politicians in the US and around the world were right to be frustrated at how Europe has dealt with the crisis.

He served as Bill Clinton's treasury secretary and head of Barack Obama's National Economic Council.

Business and Wall Street concerns about the eurozone are on the rise.

On Thursday Spain's credit rating was downgraded as estimates on the size of the bailout it might need began to mount up.

'Global threat'

Larry Summers says it is not just about concrete effects like a drop in exports.

"There are also very large psychological effects," he said, "and the sense that a large part of the world economy could encounter really grave financial problems is a source of uncertainty.

"When people are uncertain, they wait, and that means they don't spend, and in a demand-short economy, that can be a serious problem.

"Europe is a threat not only to itself but to the global economy."

Mr Summers tells me he can understand that European leaders want to maintain confidence, but adds:

"Sometimes there's nothing more demoralising than being told that the emperor's well-clothed when you can see for yourself that the emperor is naked.

"They are errors that tended, in the name of maintaining confidence, to seek to perpetuate illusion."

No excuses

He says the European leaders may also feel they have been told so many times that they are on the brink of crisis that they feel they are doing enough. He understands the pressure they are under.

"You know, it's a common model of political behaviour that confronted with a problem, governments do enough to avoid any imminent collapse, but they don't do enough to put the problem in the rear-view mirror. They are satisfied, if you like, with simply averting disaster.

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"And that's what it's been, stage after stage in Europe. Some of it is a reflection of political timidity; more of it probably is a reflection of balancing between competing goals.

"Look, from the point of view of northern Europe, of Germany, there are really twin imperatives: reassuring markets and holding policy makers' feet to the fire in the periphery. It's easy to figure out how to act to achieve one of those objectives; it's harder to figure out how to act to achieve both of those objectives."

But the complexity of the problem doesn't excuse the leaders, Mr Summers says.

"I think there has been a deep and profound and continuing failure of realism, and that that persists to this day.

"I think the international community has probably been more timid than it should have been in pointing out the reality of a variety of things that were being said, though one doesn't of course know what's said in private rooms.

"It's much easier to counsel saying tough words than it is to say them in an official position. But I think that it is a failure of realism that has been a central part of what has brought us to this point."

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As long as they're saying things that people can see with their own eyes are very unlikely, they're very unlikely to win back the confidence of the markets or the public”

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I say that from what I have heard the White House is deeply frustrated.

"The White House can speak for itself, but I certainly think financial officials from around the world should be very frustrated by the fact that really substantial efforts on their part have the risk of being lost in this vortex.

"I think President Obama needs to keep the pressure on with respect to Europe; I think he's very much done that. I think there needs to be more insistence on realism and I think you're seeing that over time."

It is not certain what form that realism would take. What would Larry Summers do?

"I'd like to see a judgement - either to move backwards, or a judgement to accept some of the necessary concomitants of union, in terms of a much greater level of transfers, a much more European-wide approach to banking than has been present so far.

"As long as they're saying things like the belief that the sovereign debt of European countries is riskless from the point of view of the bank regulatory system; as long as they're holding out the prospect that debts that will never be paid will in fact be paid, as long as they're claiming that an adequate growth strategy is in place, even as growth deteriorates; as long as they're saying things that people can see with their own eyes are very unlikely, they're very unlikely to win back the confidence of the markets or the public.

"But I think that the internal contradictions in the European architecture are becoming more apparent and I think sometime before long we're going to need to go for much bigger approaches if we're likely to put this problem behind us."

 
Mark Mardell, North America editor Article written by Mark Mardell Mark Mardell North America editor

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    Comment number 212.

    Billythefirst (211),

    “Oh Lordy no - it was the Greeks' own data ...”
    That is correct. The data was provided by the Greek government.

    “... the propaganda smokescreen designed to besmirch the fine reputation of Goldman Sachs failed miserably.

    Is that ok?”

    More of an amusing non sequitur, but if it makes you feel better, Go For It!

    LOL!

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    Comment number 211.

    #210
    Oh Lordy no - it was the Greeks' own data - there was no cds scam, that was a figment of many peoples' imaginations - the propaganda smokescreen designed to besmirch the fine reputation of Goldman Sachs failed miserably.

    Is that ok?

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    Comment number 210.

    Billythefirst (209),

    "... Greece met the 5 entry criteria fully....no fiddling whatsoever ...no help in massaging figures...no sir.

    Who'd have thought it?"

    The Greek government thought it. It was, after all the foolishness dies down, and the smokescreens dissipate, their data ... or do you prefer to believe otherwise?

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    Comment number 209.

    #207 Wow - history rewrites itself yet again.2.8 billion euros worth of debt was not hidden by the scamming of Goldman Sachs and Greece met the 5 entry criteria fully....no fiddling whatsoever ...no help in massaging figures...no sir.

    Who'd have thought it?

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    Comment number 208.

    Goenzoy: Without money from Washington GM would have not survived 2009

    If Washington hadn't of passed any policies at all last 10 yrs
    GM would be thriving+not have needed bailout

    So Congress' policies brought GM down+
    then they brought them back up

    Above all I am just so extremely disappointed in Congress

    Everyone else blames someone else+
    no one is willing to do the right thing

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    Comment number 207.

    Billythefirst (205),

    #203
    Greece poached the books ... you mean they dun ... this wasn't a GS number? They could have met all the requirements for entry without the bank fraudsters? ..."

    No. You also are mistaken.

    Greece applied for entry into the Euro, and provided the financial information used to warrant their application.

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    Comment number 206.

    ref #166
    Not supporting the tCuban exiles in the Bay of Pigs

    Not support the coup against Chaves

    Not supporting the Iranina protesters

    Not supporting the Shah

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    Comment number 205.

    #203
    Greece poached the books sans Goldman - you mean they dun the whole cds scam solo - this wasn't a GS number? They could have met all the requirements for entry without the bank fraudsters?

    Woah - this is red hot!

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    Comment number 204.

    Curt Carpenter (198),

    “... Interest on PIGS debt isn't set in Washington, Berlin, London or Brussels.”

    Interest on PIGS debt, like all government bonds, is set in the financial markets

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    Comment number 203.

    Michel Bisson (201),

    “... IT is a fact that Goldman Sach in the city is responsible of the entry of Greece in the Euro ...”

    You are mistaken. Greece is responsible for the entry of Greece in the Euro.

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    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 201.

    IT is a fact that Goldman Sach in the city is responsible of the entry of Greece in the Euro, and it is an other fact that Europe banks did huge lost in the american subprime crisis.

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    Comment number 199.

    President Obama’s proposed , remedial fiscal and economic regulatory reforms only underlines, how much U. S. is dependent on the economic policies of Europe , China and Congress .There continues an opportunity to invest heavily in construction and energy related programs . The bigger issues is if President Obama would be able to act on his own , without bipartisan support in the Congress ?

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    Comment number 198.

    Let's face it: Summers isn't exactly the poster boy for U.S. economic credibility is he. But he's at least hinting at the truth -- that neither he or anyone else has any real idea of what to do. And that they CERTAINLY don't have the guts or political will to take on the big banks that are really calling the shots.

    Interest on PIGS debt isn't set in Washington, Berlin, London or Brussels.

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    Comment number 197.

    #194
    Indeed - can the US tax payer really be expected to keep forking out for the world's largest public sector employer - time for radical cutbacks, you can't spend what y'ain't got.This is government gone crazy.

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    Comment number 196.

    What outsiders can see is that its either political union - including the UK or the overspenders get kicked out of the Euro
    I suppose time will tell
    Old Git

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    All this user's posts have been removed.Why?

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    Comment number 194.

    Mr. Obama has redined the word hubris. He has spent the US another $5 trillion dollars into debt to no avail as the economy is still totally flat. He acts as if the mony grows on trees and that everyone can just spend their way out of debt. Try doing that in your personal life and you will discover that all you become is bankrupt. Just like the US under His presidency. Ludicrous advice!

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    Comment number 193.

    # 168 /169 @ everywhere
    Never read some much ill considered drivel.

 

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