Syria crisis: Minister says civil war has reached stalemate


The US and Russia still disagree on issues surrounding the Syria conflict

Syria's deputy prime minister says the civil war has reached stalemate, with neither side strong enough to win.

Qadri Jamil told the UK's Guardian newspaper that at proposed peace talks in Geneva, Damascus would call for a ceasefire with the armed opposition.

The BBC's Jim Muir in Beirut says Mr Jamil seems to be reflecting a drive by Russia to prepare for peace talks.

Meanwhile, the US has called on the UN Security Council to act over Syria's chemical weapons.

Secretary of State John Kerry called on the council to pass a "binding resolution" when it meets next week.

'Neutral monitors'

Mr Jamil told the Guardian that the Syrian economy had suffered catastrophic losses in the civil war that began in early 2011.

More than 100,000 people have died in the conflict, according to the UN, and millions have fled the country or been made homeless.

Syria's chemical weapons

  • CIA believes Syria's arsenal can be "delivered by aircraft, ballistic missile, and artillery rockets"
  • Syria believed to possess mustard gas, sarin, and tried to develop VX gas
  • Syria has agreed to join Chemical Weapons Convention; it signed Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention in 1972 but never ratified

Sources: CSIS, RUSI

"Neither the armed opposition nor the regime is capable of defeating the other side," he said.

"This zero balance of forces will not change for a while."

Mr Jamil insisted that he was speaking for the government.

He said that if the long-delayed Geneva peace talks were revived, the government would propose a ceasefire monitored by troops from neutral or friendly countries.

This, he said, would pave the way for a peaceful political process, free from outside interference.

Nobody should fear, he added, that the regime in its current form would continue.

The BBC's Jim Muir in neighbouring Lebanon says Mr Jamil's comments are bound to be dismissed by the Syrian opposition, which is deeply sceptical about talk of reform and democracy from government sources.

Mr Jamil is a former communist whose party took part in demonstrations against the government at the beginning of the uprising. He is not a hard-core Baath Party loyalist, our correspondent adds.

Behind the scenes in a chemical testing lab

Meanwhile, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said Tehran was ready to help broker peace in Syria as part of what he called his country's "constructive engagement" policy with other nations.

In an article in the Washington Post newspaper, Mr Rouhani wrote: "We must join hands to constructively work toward national dialogue, whether in Syria or Bahrain. We must create an atmosphere where peoples of the region can decide their own fates.

"As part of this, I announce my government's readiness to help facilitate dialogue between the Syrian government and the opposition."

Correspondents say the article is the latest signal that Mr Rouhani wants to improve Iran's relationship with the US and other countries that believe Iran is developing nuclear weapons.

Fighting continues

On the ground in Syria, a ceasefire has been agreed between two different rebel groups in the northern town of Azaz, the BBC's Paul Wood reports.

The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (Isis), an al-Qaeda-linked rebel movement, seized the town on Wednesday from the larger and Western-backed Free Syrian Army.


Isis is reported to have made a number of arrests of activists, journalists and even Sharia court officials in the town.

The fighting between the two groups was the latest and most serious incident in what analysts say is becoming a war within a war.

Analysts say there is more chance that the US and other Western powers may arm the Free Syrian Army if it shows there is clear water between it and the Islamists.

Security Council call

Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister, Sergei Ryabkov, is currently in Damascus where he has been meeting top officials and also leaders of the tolerated opposition.

Both Russia and the US say they want to build on their agreement concerning chemical weapons to revive the stalled peace process.

John Kerry says that the UN inspectors report "confirms that the Assad regime carried out a chemical attack"

But there are still many disagreements too.

Mr Kerry said a "definitive" UN report had proved that the Syrian government was behind a deadly chemical weapons attack in the Damascus suburbs of Ghouta on 21 August.

Damascus - backed by Moscow - insists that rebel forces carried out the attack.

The US threatened military strikes against Syria in response to the attack, but put them on hold after agreeing to a Russian plan to destroy Syria's chemical weapons stockpiles.

Syria has agreed to the disarmament plan unveiled by the US and Russia last weekend.

The West wants the deal enshrined in a UN resolution backed by the threat of military force, but Russia - Syria's ally - objects.

Mr Kerry said the UN Security Council must be willing to act when the UN General Assembly holds its annual meeting in New York next week.

"Now the test comes. The Security Council must be prepared to act next week," Mr Kerry said.

Correspondents say the disarmament plan faces its first big test on Saturday with the one-week deadline for Syria to provide a list of its chemical weapons facilities.

Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, in an interview with Fox News, said it could take about a year to destroy Syria's chemical stockpiles and could cost about $1bn (£623m).

The United Nations says more than 100,000 people have been killed since the uprising against President Assad began in March 2011.


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  • rate this

    Comment number 299.

    220. Political

    You mean Putin

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    Comment number 298.

    21st century

    people the electorate are listened to by their politicians

    this is not the 1900 40 50 60 80 00' old Dickensian dead wood society

    times have changed .. we have had enough besides our own cut backs, running into billions , we as the electorate said no to the war and yet Cameron is in the wings, happy to go on this war jolly with USA . without our permission.

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    Comment number 297.

    279.Rebecca Riot

    "If Assad & his regime are still in place after a ceasefire is negotiated, then that would be entirely unacceptable."

    The only problem I have with that is: if Assad goes, who takes his place? It's not a long list of affable characters, is it?

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    Comment number 296.

    What would have happened if the vote in parliament had gone the other way? Shudder to think of all those innocent lives being "defended" by American bombs.

    Now is the time to talk as it is obvious that the people of the world want peace, not another manufactured war.

    Now keep the paws off Iran.

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    Comment number 295.

    Stalemate is not the answer.Find the cause for the problem and solve it.Syrian government was elected body and they should be the one to control the country.No outsider can decide,what actions are to be taken.Nation should respect the government.

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    Comment number 294.

    I do not think that they should have put it to the parliament to decide whether to use military force or not. The country has an elected prime minister and it is up to him/her to decide whether war is an option or not
    No, we have a parliamentary democracy. The only people who voted for Cameron are in Witney. The rest of us voted for MPs to represent us. PMs can't start wars alone

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    Comment number 293.

    No , let them fight a bit longer as better for the world that there is an outright winner.

    Just make sure we don't get involved in any way, military or financially.

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    Comment number 292.

    @289 - not sure it's better. Missed out:
    “the locations have been well traveled by other individuals prior to the arrival of the Mission. … During the time spent at these locations, individuals arrived carrying other suspected munitions indicating that such potential evidence is being moved and possibly manipulated.”
    Plus no positives for Sarin in the 13 samples from Moadamiyah

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    Comment number 291.

    glad we are all moving to towards diplomacy ...
    war does not work aided or propagated by either side theres no such thing as winnable war, a lie we dont believe any more

    Wrong or Right - Kerry or Putin,diplomacy can work when they listen to their electorate.
    spend windfall of money saved on your citizens & humanitarian aid for Syria, politicians listen to the electorate ,never the other way.

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    Comment number 290.

    Kerry has impeccable credentials. Throughout his political, legal professional career,he has steered the country in a sensible direction. As Secretary of State, he is determined to send strong signals to Russia and Syria without fliching in the least. Like his predeccessor, Hillary Clinton, he is an excellent advocate of American foreign policy. He needs to follow through with tough warnings.

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    Comment number 289.

    Here's a better break down of the report.

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    Comment number 288.

    John Kerry says that the UN inspectors report "confirms that the Assad regime carried out a chemical attack"

    Here is a breakdown of the report - Importantly contains link to the report so one can draw own conclusions
    Appendix 5 - Munitions
    Appendix 6 - Lab Report

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    Comment number 287.

    283@ KnutKnutsen

    CIA all stars regime Change
    list @274 is fact not conjecture,these countries Govs & many others were overturn with the help of CIA open admit in their official docs,

    merely pointing out how the same countries seem to pop up time again with same crisis iraq iran Syria ..

    my prerogative onHYS what I think just as your prerogative to have you say, people make their own minds up.

  • rate this

    Comment number 286.

    The Syrian rebels may be the freedom fighters or foreign set militants just to have destroyed Assad's empire or commonly known worldwide as Al-Qaeda. Whichever of them succeed, who will be the exact profiteer, is the question?

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    Comment number 285.

    No such thing as stalemate in war.

    In much of WWII we were coming 2nd & so was Russia but then we & Russia caught up with military resources & the game changed.

    Same with Syria, Assad & his regime know this, they cannot win.

    Its not a game of chess, its a game of winner takes all & loser gets nish all, except maybe a stretchy neck

  • rate this

    Comment number 284.

    The Assad Regime is not a proper government of Syria & Assad himself is not proper President.

    The lies & pretending of the Assad Regime cannot be acceptable in any negotiating process. To give Assad & his phoney ministers any credibility as legitimate politicians on the international stage is gross mistake.

    Proper politicians & nations should not negotiate with this crowd of murdering gangsters

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    Comment number 283.

    274. fairdos
    "CIA all stars regime change"

    Why do you keep posting what is essentially a conjectural list with omissions and gratuitous errors.

    Is it merely to prove a point that only you understand?

  • rate this

    Comment number 282.

    Quite a very few warrior nature countries slogan constantly for a war in Syria despite knowing the after effect of it that it would be nothing but massacre and massacre of lives and economies.

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    Comment number 281.

    @276 ARshams
    in US, UK and France are express their strong willingness for a war in Syria, anyhow the governments

    A: BUT not their electorate THEIR COUNTRY,so much for called democracy...politicians are out of touch with THEIR COUNTRIES...

    @ 278
    A :yes agree the list @274 represents the agency involvement around the world, in its declass docs admitting regime interesting past & present...

  • rate this

    Comment number 280.

    28, Bill, yes you're right the UN report did not blame anyone, but that is not to say that the relevant information wasn't included.


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