France's Hollande backs US on Syria action

 

Jeremy Bowen reports from Damascus: ''You could sense the tension in the face of what feels here like an impending attack''

France is still ready to take action in Syria alongside the US, despite UK MPs blocking British involvement, President Francois Hollande has said.

He told Le Monde newspaper a strike within days could not be ruled out.

The US says it will continue to seek a coalition, and President Barack Obama is meeting his national security team.

The UN is investigating claims that the Syrian forces of President Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons. Mr Assad denies the claims, blaming rebels.

UN chemical weapons inspectors visited a hospital in a government-controlled area of Damascus on Friday.

At the scene

The weapons inspectors this morning seemed to be in two or three minds about what was going on.

Twice they left the garage of the hotel where they and foreign correspondents are staying, looking as if they were ready to head out, and twice they went back in. Perhaps they had a plan to visit some of the suburbs held by rebels that they had been going into to take samples, but there's been a lot of shelling going on in that direction today.

Now they are here at the regime's military hospital. There have been claims from the regime itself that they had soldiers wounded by chemical weapons, and perhaps those are the people they've come to see.

The UN says the whole team will leave Syria on Saturday. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon says the inspectors will then brief him on their preliminary findings.

Syrian officials say they will reject any "incomplete report" from the UN before the results of laboratory tests are known.

A UN spokesman later said the experts would try to "expedite" the report, but said no conclusions would be drawn until the full tests had been completed.

'France is ready'

Mr Ban met the five permanent members of the Security Council in New York earlier.

They have held talks twice already this week, but after the last meeting on Thursday, diplomats said they were "far apart".

Mr Ban was expected to give the US, UK, France, Russia and China more information about the timetable for the findings of the weapons inspectors.

Mr Hollande said the UK vote, in which parliament rejected a government motion supporting the principle of military action, made no difference to France's position.

"Each country is sovereign to participate or not in an operation. That is valid for Britain as it is for France," he said.

He said that if the UN Security Council was unable to act, a coalition would form including the Arab League and European countries.

"But there are few countries which can have the capacity of enforcing any sanction through the appropriate measures," he said.

"France will be part of it. France is ready."

He ruled out strikes while the UN inspectors were in Syria. However he did not rule out the possibility that military action could be taken before next Wednesday, when the French parliament is due to debate the issue.

Neither France nor the US need parliamentary approval for action, and Secretary of State John Kerry said the US could not be held to the foreign policy of others.

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The Obama administration believes that it is necessary to punish and deter Assad - the only question is whether Europe, represented by France, will be with them”

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The UK vote was welcomed in Russia, Syria's main international ally.

Moscow said it reflected a growing public understanding of the dangers of an attack.

And the BBC's Jeremy Bowen in Damascus says Syrian MPs are delighted with the UK vote.

He says they believe a letter they sent to the UK parliament inviting their British counterparts to inspect the evidence of chemical attacks had helped sway the vote against military action.

China, which has vetoed previous UN Security Council resolutions against Syria, reiterated on Friday that no action should be taken until the UN inspectors have reported on their findings.

And Germany said of military action that "such participation has not been sought nor is it being considered".

The BBC witnesses the aftermath of a bomb attack on school in northern Syria

'Beyond doubt'

Officials in the US and UK had been insistent throughout the week that the Assad regime had carried out a poison-gas attack in eastern Damascus on 21 August in which hundreds were killed.

Models for possible intervention

  • Iraq 1991: US-led global military coalition; explicit mandate from UN Security Council to evict Iraqi forces from Kuwait
  • Balkans 1990s: US arms supplied to anti-Serb resistance in defiance of UN-mandated embargo; later US-led air campaign against Serb paramilitaries
  • Somalia 1992-93: UN authorised international force for humanitarian reasons; US military involvement culminated in disaster and pullout
  • Libya 2011: France and UK sought UN authorisation for humanitarian operation; air offensive continued until fall of Gaddafi

However British Prime Minister David Cameron told parliament on Thursday he could not be 100% sure.

In the US, government officials briefed a Congressional committee on the case for launching action against Mr Assad's forces.

Eliot Engel, the top Democratic member on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told reporters after the briefing that officials had said it was "beyond a doubt that chemical weapons were used, and used intentionally by the Assad regime".

Mr Engel said officials had cited evidence including "intercepted communications from high-level Syrian officials".

Reports in the US media this week described Syrian officials suggesting in phone conversations that the chemical weapons attack had been more devastating than was intended.

A Syrian general who defected and fled to Turkey last year told the BBC in Istanbul that the current head of the regime's chemical weapons programme had been killed.

Gen Adnan Sillu, who said he had once been head of the programme, claimed that his successor, Gen Mohamed Aslan, was responsible for last week's attack in Damascus.

Gen Sillu said Gen Aslan had been killed as part of the regime's attempt to destroy evidence of the attack.

His claim could not be independently verified.

More than 100,000 people are estimated to have died since the conflict erupted in Syria in March 2011, and the conflict has produced at least 1.7 million refugees.

Syria map

Forces which could be used against Syria:

Four US destroyers - USS Gravely, USS Ramage, USS Barry and USS Mahan - are in the eastern Mediterranean, equipped with cruise missiles. The missiles can also be fired from submarines, but the US Navy does not reveal their locations

Airbases at Incirlik and Izmir in Turkey, and in Jordan, could be used to carry out strikes

Two aircraft carriers - USS Nimitz and USS Harry S Truman are in the wider region

French aircraft carrierCharles de Gaulle is currently in Toulon in the western Mediterranean

French Rafale and Mirage aircraft can also operate from Al-Dhahra airbase in the UAE

 

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  • rate this
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    Comment number 665.

    The USA yet again is intervening in a war that is not theirs to fight..Britain stand your ground and don't fall in line with what the USA and France want .Who do they think they are..When we joined the fight in Iraq others called us weak thinking we went along with the USA, yet when we stand our ground as it is Morally wrong what your doing were called cowards I think not we do not agree with you.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 664.

    USA,USA.
    This is your day,
    To the world you MUST show
    You are the MACHO !
    In the need of spanking (again !?)
    With you a Frenchie yelping.
    USA,USA
    Your madness will it ever go away ?

  • rate this
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    Comment number 663.

    We (Americans) need to stay out of it - period. Let someone else take the lead if they are so interested in getting involved in the Syrian bloodbath, e.g., France. Please, Mr. President, follow the UK's direction and stay the hell out if it.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 662.

    Chemical attacks, GUN ATTACKS, not a lot of difference, people DIE, and i think the US knows about GUN attacks, but still it goes on ,how dare people say we would be speaking German now if it was not for the US, we stood ALONE for two years before the US decided to join in, and we have only just in the last few years finished paying the US back, and we were defending ourselves not attacking others

  • rate this
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    Comment number 661.

    629.tharis
    20 Minutes ago
    Well Said Dav3.
    in 2009, When Sri lanka army was butchering 300 000 tamils in 1 square meter


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    Really?

    That's only three and a third square millimetre per Tamil.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 660.

    650"France and US joint military ops? Yeah, that'll be interesting. Friendly fire casualties will be significant..."
    Hahaha. True, if they weren't just launcing rockets from warships. I think 'collateral damage', that delightful American term for dead civilians, is more likely.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 659.

    funny how much anger there is in this blog.

    I wonder why all the anti-US anger is not directed towards those responsible for the horrific gassing that caused those agonizing deaths? Because, even the Iranians admit that chemical weapons were used.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 658.

    Appeasement failed in 1939, it will fail again in 2013!

    There is plenty of evidence which the appeasers choose to deliberately ignore.

    This isn't about taking sides, its about removing the horror of chemical and other illegal incendiary devices.

    There are rebel factions who represent Islamist groupings, but also legitimate opposition groups.

    Thank god for the French & US!

  • rate this
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    Comment number 657.

    Nothing new, rhetoric, glad we are out.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 656.

    Sadly the pause on Syria has led to the needless deaths of 100,000 people. Many of these were children, Given the size of the country it is a humanitarian disaster of the first magnitude. Working through the UN and not around the major powers shoudl have placed a peace truce in Syria above all other geoplitical considerations. Shame on everyone for letting the situation degrade to this point.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 655.

    Those Americans coming on here spouting their leaders rhetoric:
    The only time this relationship is 'special' is when the president needs something, outside of that, it isnt. See the Falklands and us being shafted by Reagan. It isn't special to most of us Brits. Whilst we have utmost respect for the American people, I think most believe that the leaders there are warmongering clowns and liars.

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    Comment number 654.

    Actually, English is a non-inflected Indo-European language derived from dialects of Western Germanic tribes. The Normans who, as someone correctly pointed out, conquered England in the 11th century came from Normandy in France, however, spoke a Franco-Viking dialect (not "French") as they were actually from Denmark.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 653.

    41.EUCiti2en
    Your comment is the highest rated and rightly so but what they omit to say is that Cameron fully expected to win both votes on Thursday night. His hubris is only outweighed by his failure to realise how the man in the street is thinking. Luckily, it seems most of our MPs are actually listening to the people. We would not expect Arab nations to sort out European problems after all.

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    Comment number 652.

    Why are we getting into slagging off matches between Yanks, French and Brits? We all have a responsibility for the mess we now call Syria.

    The US aggravate the mess because of oil politics and its addiction to the Jewish and evangelical vote over Israel. France and Britain carved up the middle-East into unworkable pieces that ignored tribal and religious differences post WW1.

    Syria needs help.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 651.

    641. KING LEONIDAS
    Unfortunately the crazies always have the loudest voices, but very often don't represent the overall majority. Such is the way of US politics these days.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 650.

    France and US joint military ops? Yeah, that'll be interesting. Friendly fire casualties will be significant...

  • rate this
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    Comment number 649.

    The French are plainly as stupid as the yanks if they join forces to bomb Syria, this is an problem for Syria to overcome not the rest of the world to poke thier noses in and start issuing threats, after all the yanks are guilty are war crimes in Iraq but strangely enough no one has been to justice but had this been a Serbian etc. he would of been hunted down until found and prosecuted, how weird.

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    Comment number 648.

    Throughout the history of these islands help has come from the west and threats from the east. However USA bashers wriggle this history speaks for itself. Driven by its Declaration, the USA did more than any other nation to dismantle imperialism in the Middle East from the first world war onwards. This is why its good to see France return to the statue of liberty days.

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    Comment number 647.

    628. chrisstan

    History isn't your best subject.
    Those soldiers were humans who deserve respect for their sacrifice

  • rate this
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    Comment number 646.

    Isn't it France's allies (the Algerian generals) who slaughtered around 200.000 Algerians in late 80s early 90s? in circumstances similar to Syria? And the irony is that Algeria's generals consulted Assad the father (Bashar's dad) then in how to oppress their people.
    Does Mr Hollande think we are stupid and don't know the shameful French history?

 

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