The battle in Brussels
Europe's leaders predicted a bitter battle over the budget. And they were right.
They drifted away into the night in pessimistic mood.
"I think we're advancing a bit," said the German Chancellor Angela Merkel, "but I doubt that we will reach a deal."
Others suggested that a deal was not possible this time and that they would have to return in January and February.
The leaders will have the morning to mull over the latest budget proposal, hastily put together after nearly 12 hours of meetings.
During the day each of the 27 heads of government had been able to put their case to Europe's two most senior officials.
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Someone described it as a "parade of differences".
In the latest proposal, the spending ceiling remains pretty much the same at 940bn euros (£759bn; $1.2tn).
Some money has been shifted to help the poorer regions and some more has been earmarked for farm subsidies. That provoked one official to call it "a step backwards".
Coming from a northern European country, he said the budget needed to reflect a more "modern agenda".
The French President Francois Hollande is on the defensive but battling to protect the Common Agricultural Policy.
Posturing"It allows us to feed our people, to have food security, to have top quality food, to export food," he said.
"I am not just defending France - I am also showing solidarity with people throughout Europe, this is a European policy."
This revised proposal was an attempt to balance all the competing interests. The fault lines have become clearer. Most of those countries which do well out of EU grants have banded together to oppose any cuts.
The French, Italians and Spanish are fighting fiercely to protect their farmers.
On Thursday, David Cameron had been first in to see Europe's two top officials. They had been surprised when he told them how they could save several billion euros by attacking perks and salaries.
The British are being accused of intransigence
One official later described it as "theatre for the British morning papers". In the revised proposal there were no changes to administrative costs. Another pointed out that the pay rise for civil servants in the UK had gone up 0.9% in 2012 and that David Cameron was demanding a 10% cut for the so-called eurocrats.
Britain, in seeking a freeze on actual spending, has allies in Sweden and the Netherlands.
The interesting position is that of the Germans. Angela Merkel, as always, disguises her negotiating hand until the very last. Her view is that the "positions are quite far apart".
Her bottom line is that "everybody is going to have to compromise and be ready to compromise". That was seen as sending a message to the British.
Already there is some muttering about "British intransigence". David Cameron has made it clear there is no question of a cut to the rebate worth around £3bn a year.
A deal is still possible when the leaders reconvene later, but the mood was perhaps best summed up by the President of the European Parliament, Martin Schulz.
"I don't see," he said, "how a bridge can be built between all these different interests."
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Comment number 338.
frenchliving24th November 2012 - 23:52
314. margaret howard It is difficult to recognize those with a vested interest in leaving the EU or curtailment of it (not many opportunities) but easy to see those that have a vested interest, more so those with their noses in the trough (many opportunities). Given your frequent defence of an EU with a serious democratic deficit and a lack of accounting, we can only guess at your your motives.
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ruminations24th November 2012 - 23:15
The dishonest mood of denial, allied with the concupiscence of the oppressor ( Auden ? )
Its the force in social theory that propels the degredation of people into things..in this case immigrants..
Two faced, it also has the quality of transforming the oppressor into a thing s`well..
The EU has always faced the challenge of allowing for national identities, alongside mutual benefit..
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ruminations24th November 2012 - 22:40
332 kane..
At its best the Bible would say treat other people how you would like to be treated yourself.
Credible arguement ? Jeeez !
Links to the tabloid press caricutures, that are propogated by organisations that have a transparent idoelogy..Sun ran a concerted campaign against Gypsies , some vermin apparently, alongside women, refugees, non-white
How does the Polski Sun grab you ?
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All for All24th November 2012 - 22:36
kane @332
"to concede", or veto?
With "some grace"?
Owed not just to 'an argument'
IF to "your position"
Then to your self?
To "concede" without grace
Forgetting even 'the issue'?
Instructive, thank you
But hardly 'a credit'
Do you realise?
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ComradeOgilvy @333
Understood
Here in hope
For many others
World & Future
Appreciated
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ComradeOgilvy24th November 2012 - 22:18
332.k
For you? Why do you think that?
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