Growth versus austerity
Francois Hollande and Alexis Tsipras celebrate election results in France and Greece
The anti-austerity backlash - as seen at the polls in France and Greece - is already shaping a new debate in Europe.
European officials who only recently were revelling in their role as anti-debt enforcers are born again as growth enthusiasts.
On 23 May, Herman Van Rompuy, the President of the European Council, will host an informal "growth" dinner. Earlier this year David Cameron fought to have some of his ideas for growth included in the conclusions at a summit.
But it has taken the success of Francois Hollande in France to bring urgency to the pursuit of growth.
Europe's leaders will address a conundrum that divides economists: can you have austerity and growth at the same time?
False choice
The German chancellor is due to meet Francois Hollande next week
The IMF chief Christine Lagarde is among those who insist that growth versus austerity is a false choice. She believes both can be achieved but she has also warned of the risks in cutting spending too sharply.
This argument will surface next week when Francois Hollande has his first meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel. He will - in the most diplomatic way - tell her that the French people have given him a mandate to make growth his priority.
What she will not allow is for French voters, in effect, to open up for renegotiation her treasured pact enforcing discipline over budgets in the eurozone.
However, the Germans cannot allow a rift with France which would be very damaging. So the expectation is for some kind of growth pact to be attached to the fiscal pact.
This is where it gets interesting. Mrs Merkel believes that growth best comes from structural reforms - making it easier to hire and fire workers and opening up professions.
Big-ticket projectsThat is not Francois Hollande's idea for growth. For a start, such reforms would pitch him into a fight with the French unions. He wants to see spending - particularly at the European level - on big-ticket projects like infrastructure and energy technology.
The EU Commission wants to bolster the European Investment Bank's paid-in capital by 10bn euros so it can increase its lending capacity for projects like motorway building.
Some of these ideas may get German backing.
What the German chancellor won't agree to is for countries to increase spending through borrowing. She will also resist any pressure to allow the European Central Bank to lend directly to governments.
The official EU position was set out by President Barroso. "There must be no let-up in our focus on stability," he said, whilst accelerating structural reforms.
The problem can be seen in a country like Spain. It has embarked on structural reforms but they take time. And in the short term, regional governments, companies and households are paying down debts.
The reforms may well boost growth in the future but, in the present, countries like Spain appear to be locked in a cycle of decline. Which is why much of the debate will focus on whether some of the deficit-cutting targets may be eased.
'Precarious'But the Germans will be wary in sending that signal to France. Peter Altmaier, who is close to Angela Merkel, described France's finances as "precarious" and then went on to say that "any country that attempts higher deficits... there simply isn't any wiggle room".
For the moment, the Germans favour austerity and reforms that might deliver growth down the road. That, of course, may not satisfy the voters. And therein lies a problem with monetary union.
As the German paper, Die Welt, wrote recently over the French and Greek elections: "In the end the results are proof that Europe doesn't work. Countries still debate within their own national borders because there is no European public space."
Voters may not give Europe's leaders time to work out how exactly you get growth while cutting deficits and reducing debt.
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Comment number 294.
franz hinterkörner11th May 2012 - 23:57
@291
Thanks for the info.
What makes me nervous is that there are again people in the EU who advocate an attenuation of the bailout conditions for Greece. This will make Syriza even stronger and may lure other southern countries into following Greece's example.
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Suilerua11th May 2012 - 23:10
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18041223
The end is certain. It's only the route that's in question.
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Comment number 292.
D Bumstead11th May 2012 - 21:25
@290 A conservative estimate that the Greek govt is owed at east 60 billion euros in back taxes by companies, private persons etc. The actual amount may well be considerably higher. The tax administration is so chaotic that, quite simply, nobody knows.
Add to this the massive fraud over the years re pensions, invalidity benefits etc and it's little wonder that the country is bankrupt.
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quietoaktree11th May 2012 - 20:38
#287 austriacus
"I wonder whether anybody has made a sum-up of the amounts of subsidies Greece has received during the years of EU-membership, just to get a feeling"
Overall, Greece has absorbed 240 billion euros in European aid over three decades - the equivalent to the country's GDP in 2010.
Source--
http://www.asiaone.com/Business/News/Story/A1Story20100430-213345.html
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Suilerua11th May 2012 - 19:11
287And I wonder if anyone tallied how much tax money wealthy & upper middle class Greeks should have paid over the years that they didn't.How much was spent on make work and even no show Greek govt jobs. How much was overpaid and is still overpaid to Greek govt workers and pensioners compared to what their work was actually worth.Until this corrupt system is fixed Greece and the EU can't be saved.
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