Chen's hospital prison

 

Dissident Chen Guangcheng remains inside a Beijing hospital amid intense international scrutiny of his situation. In a telephone call to US lawmakers he asked for help getting his family to the US.

Meanwhile top-level talks on trade and strategy are continuing in the Chinese capital - comprehensively overshadowed by the row over Mr Chen. Here's my report:

Mr Chen says he does not believe Chinese assurances he is safe

 
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    Comment number 20.

    It is not the least surprising to me when people who hate themselves blame America for everything wrong in the world. What most of them don't know is that had America not been so uniquely generous to the entire world in the past they might not be alive today.

    It would be in America's short term economic self interest to turn its back on this dissident and focus on trade with China. However, in the long run it woud be a disaster. America became wealthy because of what it is at its core, not the other way around. America will only be in trouble if it forgets that eternal truth.

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    Comment number 19.

    When the illegal occupation of America is ended and the country is returned to the native Americans (the handful who haven't been wiped out), then America can begin to talk about human rights. Hypocrisy!

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    Comment number 18.

    Chen could notify to Chinese embassy but China authority is very tied in some cases.

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    Comment number 17.

    As a Chinese, I feel sorry about Mr. Chen . But that not means I support his behavior, truning to America for help.
    In the long history of China, our antecedent cut off the outside completely. Now, most Chinese live a better life. Everything has a process, if a country still has people die of starvation, where are the hunman rights? I was born in 1990s, all of my friends have a good education, we know what is true or false. And we know China still has a long way to go.
    I don't believe American want to help Mr. Chen, they just want to get more benefit for their country.

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    Comment number 16.

    I had occasion to research this last year and my figures were being estimated by the archeologists.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas

    The reliability of the data is hard for laymen to judge. What is clear is than the late 19th century native american population was a small fraction of its pe-columbian level.

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    Comment number 15.

    14 "Epidemics after European contact caused the greatest loss of life for indigenous populations. Estimates of the pre-Columbian population of what today constitutes the U.S. vary significantly, ranging from 1 million to 18 million"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States

    I don't know where other numbers came from but rediculously high estimates & claims that white settlers and their descendants killed off most of the native Americans deliberately is a pack of lies.Best estimates I've heard are about 3 million native Americans originally, about 1 million today.

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    Comment number 14.

    #13 myhammers
    " did they not steal the country and commit terrible atrocities against its indigenous people? Hypocrisy!"

    Yep. Between 50 and 100million native americans killed, mostly due to epidemics brought by the early settlers.

    When the settlers moved west cultures like the city states along the Mississippi were already gone.

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    Comment number 13.

    What about America's human rights record? For example, did they not steal the country and commit terrible atrocities against its indigenous people? Hypocrisy!

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    Comment number 12.

    All you have to do is look at the comments from yowatusay and BluesBerry in favor of North Korea to see they don't believe in democracy or freedom of speech at all. If they weren't under the control of the CCP, they would know that political rights are more like 80% of human rights, and 100% of what is necessary to achieve true respect from civilized countries. China's economy is already stagnating and won't continue its past growth forever.

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    Comment number 11.

    I think China knows exactly what it is doing about this US-backed so-called dissident. I admire China's patience.
    I think the situation will be allowed to die down; it wasn't one of US' brighter moves to begin with.

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    Comment number 10.

    Chongyue - regarding your grand, sweeping pronouncement that housing, food and education are the most important things:

    Housing prices have increased to the point where a non-prime location outside of the suburbs is unaffordable for most.

    Food prices continue to skyrocket, well above inflation and people's salaries are not increasing sufficiently to compensate. Let's not also forget that it's difficult to know which foods are safe for consumption given the daily scandals.

    Education - Would you care to ask Mr Chen's daughter how her right to education was preserved and respected?

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    Comment number 9.

    The US government's dilemma is obvious. It must choose very publically between protecting the financial self interests of many large American corporations making tons of profits from Chinese slave labor and no regulations there to hold them back and what it claims are its core values of freedom and human rights. Whichever way it plays out it's sure to anger someone. If we had a Republican administration this poor guy would be toast. What kind of leadership will President Obama show the world and more importantly US voters? What does he really stand for and how far will he go to defend it?

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    Comment number 8.

    Why should the US care what China thinks.Once you get past the irrelevant GDP which only tells how much wealth was manufactured on their territory, not how much they kept or how much they invented themselves, China is a weak primitive country that is by and large dirt poor.Its GNI is one eighth that of the US and its GNI per capita is one thirty-second the US.It's only asset is a billion people willing to work for next to nothing so they don't starve and no regulations to protect workers or the environment to add to the cost of manufacturing.It's a toxic waste dump populated by aging slaves

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    Comment number 7.

    #1 yowatusay

    Expect many more such incidents as the US and China try each other's diplomatic and, in due course, military strength.

    China is currently a close second to the US in economic and military strength, with a much faster growth rate. Watch out for a lot of denial from Americans as China overtakes them.

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    Comment number 6.

    The cruel brutal corrupt fascit dictatorship that rules China from the local to the national level is only relenting in this case because to do otherwise would jeopardize its more important goal of maintaining its absolute power through economic expansion at any cost. For every example like this where the dictatorship relents, countless tens of thousands are imprisoned, tortured, killed in its Gulag. What the Arab Spring and American revolution shows is that even government run by savages is no match for an large population ready to fight and die for freedom.Eventually China's govt will fall.

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    Comment number 5.

    Different countries are at different stages of development. People in Iraq or Philippines certainly have more political rights but they have a worse human rights record overall than China. In my opinion, political rights are only about 20% of overall human rights. To ordinary people in China especially, housing, food, education etc are the most important human rights and they are improved greatly over years.

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    Comment number 4.

    China, which displays a surprisingly immature pride in being the biggest, the teallest and the greatest goes into a mindless funk when faced with a sudden crisis. Instances like Bo Xilai and Chen display a serious lack of ability in the Chinese leadership of tackling a crisis. Military might & political dictatorship cannot arm the leadership with the maturity to deal with a crisis. In the end, inspite of all that China actually achieves, it leaves the world totally unimpressed with the quality of leadership in the country.

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    Comment number 3.

    As a chinese,after i saw this report ,i am very regret that the so-called "rule of law"is just a ******* joke,It is no doubt that Chen is commiserable but under the background of closer coorperation of China and US .He could be no more than a small chip for US to threaten China in order to get more benefit for their country

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    Comment number 2.

    One those of us who aren't directly tied to this problem can help Mr. Chen is to notify the Chinese embassy in our country that we will not purchase any further products made in their country until Mr. Chen has been allowed to live freely in their country or has left China for somewhere else. And then follow through, notifying local shops and makers of products as to why we are boycotting their products. It shouldn't take long to resolve the problem if enough people were willing to do this.

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    Comment number 1.

    Chen is embarrassing all of China but worst he is making the USA looking like a poor country begging for handouts from a rich powerful nation.

 

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