How Afghans will view Kandahar killing spree

Scene of Panjwai shootings

The charge that an American soldier murdered 16 civilians near Kandahar, most of them children, is one of those moments where the Western view of events in that country tends to differ vitally from that of Afghans.

Having visited Afghanistan many times over the space of 25 years, I would wager that the average person there is more angry about the Americans burning Korans at Bagram airbase.

It is not that the killing near Kandahar is not an awful tragedy for the families concerned, nor that people locally will be indifferent to their loss. Rather the Afghan attitude to suffering in war is born of decades of struggle, often merciless, and that people there will not tolerate insults to their religion.

Anti-US stronghold

Panjwai, the district where the US sergeant is accused of running amok, was deeply prejudiced against foreign forces well before this happened.

Man brandishing half burned Koran The burning of Korans at Bagram sparked a wave of violent protest

It is one of the places where Taliban leader Mullah Omar used to preach regularly, and has been the focus of several major Nato/Afghan operations.

Prior to Sunday's killing spree, you would have found much hatred of the Americans in Panjwai, where Western forces have come under attack countless times.

You would also have found a great many men who were willing to plant bombs or attack foreigners, and it is open to question despite Taliban calls today for revenge, whether the local insurgency can try any harder than it already is.

To Westerners, the idea that the perpetrator of these crimes seems to be a mentally unstable soldier marks an important distinction from civilians killed, say, during crossfire in military operations.

I doubt these distinctions will mean much to Afghans. Nato commanders say their research suggests that many in the restive southern provinces even blame "the occupiers" or "infidels" when Taliban bombs kill civilians, arguing they would not be placing them if the foreign troops were not there.

Tribal divisions

Travel further afield from the district in Kandahar where this happened and you will find that some have great sympathy, and others do not.

The schisms of ethnic group or tribe can often define attitudes in Afghanistan. Northerners - Tajiks, or Uzbeks for example - often regard the Pashtuns in the south as trouble makers who get what they deserve.

During the operations to overthrow the Taliban in 2001, I sometimes found the lack of fellow feeling or sympathy among Afghans quite breath-taking, for example when civilians in some far off place were killed accidentally by American bombing.

One Kabul man told me that some people killed in faraway Herat were "worth it to get rid of the Taliban".

When covering the Soviet war in the 1980s there, I saw many examples of mujahideen in one village standing idly by while others just a few miles away were being slaughtered. If they were from a different tribe, or party, or there was some feud between commanders, they just did not seem to care.

Violence trigger

In that fractured, querulous, society religion and certain aspects of traditional culture (such as female purdah in the Pashtun areas) remain the great touchstones for generating fellow feeling or indeed outrage.

The number that have died as a result a momentary, but stupid failure of cultural awareness by Americans who sent Korans for incineration with other waste has already cost two or three times the number of lives as Sunday's crime. The Danish cartoon row produced bloodshed in Afghanistan and Pakistan too.

One morning back in August 2010, I attended the morning Battlefield Update of a Nato commander in southern Afghanistan. Much of the briefing was given over to an incident the previous day in the capital of Uruzgan province, Tarinkot.

We watched the black and white thermal imagery from a drone orbiting over a bazaar, as white figures, hot angry men, ran about smashing the place up.

Several people had died in the riot playing out on big screens. Why had it happened? Because a rumour had swept the bazaar that Nato troops had stuck a bayonet into a copy of the Koran. As far as anyone in headquarters could establish, it was completely untrue.

There in the high tech operations room, age old passions had been discussed by rational men and women engaged in the uphill struggle to bring security to southern Afghanistan.

At times, these soldiers and the Afghan people that surround them seem worlds apart - rarely more so than in the ways they interpret violence, real or symbolic.

Mark Urban Article written by Mark Urban Mark Urban Diplomatic and defence editor, BBC Newsnight

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    Comment number 70.

    #68 "Your apathy or the apathy of the Westerners in is general toward Afghans is breath taking."

    I think you were trying to use a different word than "apathy"

    " see with some pressure and stress you become monsters."

    If that was true, would there be anyone left alive in Afghanistan?

    So...refuge = good custom (Bin Ladin thought so), stoning = bad habit sponsored by the West?

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    Comment number 69.

    (cont.)condition of stress. you spoke of our tradition of giving refuge for to a muslim its not only to a muslim but every human being, and this killing and stoning adulterers was one of the things Never implement until the taliban and the Mujahideen and Who were made and financed by the american government to fight the soviets.

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    Comment number 68.

    Your apathy or the apathy of the Westerners in is general toward Afghans is breath taking.
    your values mean nothing until they are tested and you see with some pressure and stress you become monsters.
    your values of equality are within your country and the afghans like us are animals. its the human nature to be good when he feel's safe the animal only comes out only when (cont).

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    Comment number 67.

    Speaking of flimsy excuses, even made up ones like the one you mention (Where was Osama Bin Ladin in 2001?), tell me how your excuse is not even flimsier than the one you complain about?

    If the West TRULY wanted to invade Afghanistan for some "resources", do you honestly believe that there would not be 500,000 US troops in Afghanistan now?

    Naivete is charming. In moderation...:)

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    Comment number 66.

    Your arrogance towards this chap, Naveed is amazing! Our (USA/NATO/Western countries) excuse for invading their country (terrorist camps, etc....) is rather flimsy. The real reason is that our politicians felt Afganistan could be easily subdued/pacified to gain access to the natural resources of Central Asia. I don't think there's any hope of that happening.


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