AMs get brief reprieve from double-jobbing ban

 

The promise seemed clear enough.

The UK government offered an "ambitious package" for Wales and would "prohibit 'double jobbing', by preventing assembly members from also being MPs".

In its explanatory notes to the Wales Bill, the government said: "The practice of simultaneously being an AM and a member of the House of Commons (commonly known as "double jobbing") has been the source of some criticism. In its 2009 report, the committee on standards in public life examined the issue and recommended "that the practice of holding dual mandates in both the House of Commons and the devolved legislatures should be brought to an end as soon as possible."

So does the Wales Bill prevent AMs from also being MPs? Closer examination reveals that an AM elected as an MP at a UK general election would be allowed to carry on sitting in Cardiff Bay for a year (372 days, to be precise). An MP elected to the National Assembly for Wales would be expected to clear his or her desk within eight days. So why the different rules?

A Wales Office spokesperson said: "The Wales Bill will end the practice of 'double jobbing' between Cardiff Bay and Westminster. The UK government believes that dual mandates do not serve constituents well, and that AMs should not simultaneously be able to be MPs.

"The Bill does set out some limited exceptions to this. An MP elected to the assembly has eight days in which to resign their seat in the commons (there is no similar grace period for an AM who is elected as an MP because the assembly does not have the same restrictions on resigning that exist at Westminster).

"Another exception is where an AM is elected as an MP within a year (372 days) of an expected assembly election. In this case, they could 'double job' until the assembly election is held so that the expense of a by-election is avoided when an assembly election is only a year away."

Good news then - potentially - for those AMs hoping to make the journey to Westminster next year. If successful, they'll also be able to draw one third of their old salary as AMs - on top of their full pay as an MP.

 
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  • rate this
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    Comment number 16.

    Double jobbing am's eh?
    Well that buries any argument for an increase in the numbers of am's does it not?

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    Comment number 15.

    #14 So that would be "Dim Dww......AAAAAhh "

    Maybe I have been resident too long.

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    Comment number 14.

    I think that Nick gets angry and offended when people criticise Plaid...like what Dispozest did before he was rubbed out. You have to remember that allegiance to Plaid is like belonging to a zealous religious sect; saying there is no God causes real anguish.

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    Comment number 13.

    BTW What is it with Nick's site ?? It's like my poppies: give it 24 hours and it dies . Does the BBC have to pay the Mods double time on London rates if it goes over 24hrs ??

  • rate this
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    Comment number 12.

    The first plastic banknotes in Britain will be in use next year when two million £5 notes are issued by Clydesdale Bank branches..

    Another triumph for the Nats !
    If the Scots vote yes, the new CB notes won't be valid in the rUK and possibly / probably not valid in Scotland. Being plastic, they won't even be wastepaper.

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    Comment number 11.

    "The UK government believes that dual mandates do not serve constituents well, and that AMs should not simultaneously be able to be MPs."

    How very strange. MPs in England take responsibility for all their constituent's concerns regarding the NHS and Education as well as representing then on UK matters. Why would AM/MPs be less able to cope. Is it the travel? Move the Assembly to Westminster!

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    Comment number 10.

    I think that Dispozest said it all over on Nicks' blog.....moments before they shut up shop for some reason. No link between the comment and stopping all comments I don't suppose but you never can tell.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 9.

    Look, it's a thing. But, I don't think that multi-tribal this part of the UK should be ruled by idiots who think they are a ruling Celtic caste elite? What d'you think?

    http://wales.gov.uk/newsroom/firstminister/2011/110624brittany/?lang=en

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    Comment number 8.

    I agree with you all too - let's be friends. We're not like Westminster / South East of England - corruption, nepotism, greed and incompetence may happen in Wales, but not on the grand scale of things there.

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    Comment number 7.

    Mab, see what you have done. You normally take a position somewhere north of Atilla the Hun, we respond, you get modded a few times, and we have had a good little row.
    Now, you start very reasonably, one or two of us agree, and the thread peters out.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 6.

    If a WPC can be dismissed for contacting the Sun newspaper, what is the position of a senior politician who writes to a senior police officer, has the letter leaked, and makes public self-serving parts of the trenscript of an enquiry held in private ?
    Does 'equality of arms' now demand the CPS consider charging him with obstructing an officer in the course of his duty ?

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    Comment number 5.

    4 Mab As old Victor Meldrew was fond of saying, "I don't believe it". A sensible comment which I am happy to support.
    AM's/MP's should concentrate on their roles. If they feel that they are losing touch with the world outside of politics then they should work, unpaid, for a charity.

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    Comment number 4.

    Whether you're a Senedd AM or a Westminster MP he or she should concentrate solely on that one position rather than juggling multiple jobs which includes directorships of many companies ect that might effect their vocation commitments. It's not like they're vastly underpaid as politicians or to quote them "We entered politics not for the money but to make a difference". If so prove it I say.

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    Comment number 3.

    " I hope and expect that they only get one salary "
    Hardly expect. DCk tells us
    " those AMs hoping to make the journey to Westminster next year. If successful, they'll also be able to draw one third of their old salary as AMs - on top of their full pay as an MP."

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    Comment number 2.

    Double-jobbing is a little tiny issue. Why can't we speak about the big issues? Like Celtic elephants lurking in dark corners?

    Welsh Labour sought and fought for devolution because they see themselves distinctly different to the English. They are Celts, the English are not.

    Hmmm, the shadow minister for English schools is a Llafur MP from Cardiff!!!!!! Kevin Brennan.

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    Comment number 1.

    I hope and expect that they only get one salary and pension entitlements. And, no golden handshake.

 

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