On the road with the Silk Commission


What's a girl to do on a Wednesday afternoon in Abertillery? A haircut at Scissorz? A visit to Conqueror Tattoos? Or perhaps a chat about the future of devolution?

You'll be glad to hear (particularly on the tattoo front I suspect) that yesterday I opted for the last of those. It was day two of the Silk Commission's tour of Wales and on behalf of the viewers of Wales Today, I was there.

Commission chairman Paul Silk Commission chairman Paul Silk

The Commission, led by Paul Silk, is by now well into the second part of its job, considering how the devolution settlement can be improved.

And that's why it was hosting a drop in session at the Met Conference and Cultural Centre in Abertillery yesterday afternoon as part of a five week long nationwide tour - to find out what people there made of the current devolution settlement.

Perhaps there was a run on at the hairdresser or the tattoo parlour after I'd walked past, but the people of Abertillery didn't exactly flock to the Met - in fact just five of them made it during the afternoon. Yes, five. But for the select few? It worked. They'd listened a bit then talked quite a lot. They'd discussed the further devolution of water, nuclear power planning consents, and wondered whether the event couldn't have been better advertised. One of the five lived a hundred yards away and had only dropped by because he'd spotted some movement. Why didn't they tell us it was happening, he asked? A case of damned if you pay for expensive ads, damned if you don't, I suspect.

As his staff packed up around him for the trip to the evening meeting in Monmouth, Paul Silk was staying positive. Ok, there were lots of empty chairs and coffee cups and the biscuits were uneaten, but he hadn't yet held a session, he said, where he hadn't learned something.

And so on to the Shire Hall in Monmouth, Henry V - as ever - outside, and around 20 people inside who were up for a bit of a fight, that gradually turned into a discussion, one that raised quite a few tough questions.

One of the issues for the commissioners is that they're tasked with producing a report into whether there should be further devolution to Wales in areas like energy, policing, criminal justice and broadcasting, among others. This isn't meant to be based on the record of devolution thus far, but merely about the merits, or otherwise, of devolving more from Westminster to Cardiff.

Hang on, said some of those present. It says 'evidence' on your slide. Well the only evidence we have is how the Welsh Government has performed so far. We don't really know whether broadcasting would be better or more efficiently regulated by the Welsh Government rather than the UK Government. What we do know is that we're not particularly pleased with Cardiff Bay's record on health and education which they've run since 1999. Shouldn't they show they can deliver on what they have now?

That's as maybe, or maybe not, said the scrupulously neutral Commissioners chairing the session. But those at the meeting certainly knew who was accountable for what. The general tenor of the meeting was against devolution of policing, scepticism on Wales having powers over criminal justice but interestingly, when they got on to areas like energy, where responsibilities are split, many said - for goodness sake, if Wales is going to have some of the powers, we might as well have them all.

Then it was on to the fruit cake and a general rueing of the fact that so few had bothered to turn up. Funny that. I spent this morning listening to an audience in Cardiff Bay rueing the fact that so few London-based papers and programmes bother to pay the Assembly much attention. The panellists, London-based obviously, refused to join in the "counsel of despair" as Kevin Maguire, associate editor of the Mirror put it. He'd done his homework. He'd watched First Minister's Questions and found it "boring as hell - I'm amazed anyone watches it".

The man in charge of BBC Parliament was too polite to agree, yet inside, you sensed Peter Knowles was nodding vigorously. When AMs "type and fiddle" at their computers during debates, "you wonder if they're in the space. So how do they expect the audience to be there in that space?" For what it's worth, I sense most of the audience had started to nod vigorously by that point.

The message overall? London based papers cover British politics. Assembly politics has to fight its way in.

Tonight - I'm back on the Silk road and heading off to Pontypridd. They may be fighting their way into Gartholwg Community Campus, they may not - but they'll be in the space, ready to listen.

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    Comment number 58.

    As the crazy devolution/Welshification experiment sinks into the Cardiff mud,so the artificiallypumped up Welsh nationlists become increasingly desperate.
    The nationalist's cynically contrived hatred of all things English resembles the antics of a spoilt child biting the hand of those who not only feed him, but also provide a major part of his very existence.

    End the experiment now !

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    Comment number 57.

    #56 " so, stop insisting that we are babies that need our backsides wiped"
    I don't insist. I just refer you to the pictures of the babies squabbling at their seaside sandpit in Cardiff bay. And they think that the electors of Wales want more of this broadcast !

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    Comment number 56.

    ... and 1st prize for proving a point goes to Boxer. Get this, Wales will never have any prospects of improving its economy or any aspect of life here without the political tools to affect the necessary change - so, stop insisting that we are babies that need our backsides wiped and do something constructive to back our country for a change!

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    Comment number 55.

    #48 "Devolution is different to Independence and the extension of the later is what the Silk Com is discussing."
    I think that you will find that it was the former (Devolution) that the Silk Commission was discussing.
    Of course, a Commission should be discussing which devolved matters should be returned to Westminster since WG is incapable of dealing effectively with them.

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    Comment number 54.

    Always the same old posters, always the same old garbage. Not one of you have a good thing to say about Wales. You constantly run us into the ground. All your words are poison. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I've not heard one constructive suggestion from any of you. Wales desperately needs the political means to improve its lot. Everyone of you naysayers would deny us that opportunity.

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    Comment number 53.

    The Scottish Referendum is constitutionally and legally defective.

    It was pushed through (by ConLab etc) in an afternoon and (no white paper, no Bill, no Act of Parliament, not even a vote.

    commonrepresentation.org.uk campaign

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    Comment number 52.

    #51 "Sorry but I am not sure how I can reply to that"
    I'll try again, using shorter phrases. Devo and Devo-Max are agreements between 2 gov'ments. Note the word agreement. If they don't agree, either can go their own way. This is independence. But, with independence, you are on your own. Adult. Difficult choices. Food or beer? Remember? Now, S4C or new ambulances.

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    Comment number 51.

    No 49 - Sorry but I am not sure how I can reply to that as it is mostly incorrect and makes little sense. I'm off.

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    Comment number 50.

    48. Oh dear. Actaully nationalism = fascism. The record of Welsh Nats durung the first half of the last century is not exactly snow white is it? But anyway since you have returned to the fray, do YOU have plan for financing the lunacy of independence/devolution/iosalationsim?

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    Comment number 49.

    #48 "Devolution is different to Independence"
    It is because a referendum in Wales would secure Welsh independence. However, devolution requires agreement between Wales and England. Wales might think devolution of legal services is a good thing. London, particularly since they would be bearing the increased costs, might say no. The Nos have it.

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    Comment number 48.

    45– Devolution is different to Independence and the extension of the later is what the Silk Com is discussing. FYI UK is 1 trillion in debt.
    43 – 1979 No vote backed by NF; 1997 No campaign backed by NF, BNP and UKIP; 2011 No campaign backed by BNP and UKIP (The leader of EDL, last month stated that UKIP "are saying exactly what we say"). Anti-devolutionism is a extreme far-right ideology.

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    Comment number 47.

    Well I will work on the same basis as the UK Government Boom and Bust.
    They've being doing it for 300 Years. What's Trillions amongst friends. Is this the first blog you haven't criticised the Welsh Language.

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    Comment number 46.

    Re. 39/41


    Your comments are disturbing to say the least.

    I think you'll find that it is us Cymry/Welsh who have been 'required' to switch languages over the centuries.

    Of the 830,000 folk now living in Wales but not Welsh-born, only 8% have learnt Welsh. There is clearly a need to encourage the learning of Welsh, whether you and your buddies agree or not.

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    Comment number 45.

    #44 This must be at least the fourth blog in which you have been challenged to tell us how (not exactly: just vaguely) how an independent Wales will be financed.
    Your best answer seems to be a block grant straight to PC, with no oversight since this would be interference.
    Give me my money but don't tell me how to spend it. Familiar but not very mature.

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    Comment number 44.

    the English only speakers and who support the UK
    Lots of English Speakers supported Devolution or there wouldn't have been a majority TWICE. Your maths doesn't add up and the anglicised Valleys and Cardiff have an increasing amount of WM Schools. So there must be demand.

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    Comment number 43.

    41. Not even I think that is true. No.42. Who is trying to get rid of you? With it, I shall not put up. I defend your right to speak whatever language you choose and to spout whatever economically illiterate bunkum you like. Down with fascism (nationalism).

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    Comment number 42.

    Take a chill pill . You can keep your Morris dancing and you unelected German Royal Family. I detest people who would like to get rid of minority groups and languages because of ignorance. Fascism was all about doing these things.

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    Comment number 41.

    the English only speakers and who support the UK would do well to learn from their experience. I can well see the WLB setting up welsh language courses in Ceredigion and everyone will be ENCOURAGED to attend,or else. I can assure you I am not alone as everyone I know from similar background is concerned.

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    Comment number 40.

    woodsey woodsey. You are clearly a liitle emotional. Listen carefully, I abhor nationalism be it British, Welsh, Irish or Peruvian, It is a regressive creed. Heaven forbid that we end up having to get our family trees out and start comparing the size of the trunks. Instead explain how you and Cythraul are going to pay for your personal little Narnia?

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    Comment number 39.

    Re.25. I am PARANOID and have very good reason to be so,as I can see whats happened in last 10 years. I am true 'subject' of HM the Queen and would fight for the UK if necessary,but a separate Wales??. I am entitled to be an English only speaker,and detest,yes DETEST the welsh language ENFORCERS. We will get organized. The well educated Jews in 1933 never believed the threat from Fascism and we


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