A bucket with holes, or a whole lot?

 

I'm leaving the reporting on the Queen's Speech to my colleagues in Westminster - but I'll just add two overheard conversations to the debate.

What exactly, came the question first thing this morning, is the status of the draft Wales bill? What's likely to be in it?

Think of it as a bucket, came the answer - a bucket into which the government in Westminster can put as much, or as little, legislation relevant only to Wales as it likes.

In it for now, what it says on the tin, or bucket, as described in the speech: "Draft legislation will be published concerning the electoral arrangements for the National Assembly for Wales".

It's a plan to move away from four to five year fixed term elections for the National Assembly, a move to prevent AMs from also sitting as MPs and a reversal of the ban on dual candidacy - the lucky loser's bill, or made-in-Ukraine bill, depending on your viewpoint. (The link takes you to a lively session of the Welsh Affairs Select Committee some years ago, where Ukraine gets quite a few mentions.)

But should the coalition choose to, they could throw something else in the bucket - something along the lines of legislation resulting from their response to the Silk commission, when it comes.

That point hasn't passed the First Minister by, who made a visit to the Assembly's tea room this afternoon and was overheard making sure AMs had 'got it' - that this bucket could carry some tax-varying powers to Wales.

Or to put it another way, there could be a whole lot in this bucket - or a hole in it. We'll see.

 
Betsan Powys, Political editor, Wales Article written by Betsan Powys Betsan Powys Former political editor, Wales

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    Comment number 54.

    Re 53

    Boxer,

    Perhaps you were thinking of Tellingme's contribution in no. 40: 'Whose swearing???' (sic)

    Re. 50

    John,

    Do you mean the Westminster political and financial genius behind Black Wednesday?

    Wishful thinking, and an almighty sulk on your part, will not change the truth - it is a National Assembly. Who says so? Westminster, among others.

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    Comment number 53.

    #48 "Having another lang. is not just about its use its the skills it enhances "
    Cut and pasted. Evidently the skills it enhances do not include accuracy in writing in English.

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    Comment number 52.

    Is it just me - or is this the most hopelessly vague, uninformative article ever published on the BBC website?
    What's the point in asking the question about what's in the Wales Bill and then saying you don't know?

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    Comment number 51.

    why does Woodsey keep banging on about the health service and education in England? It is WG screwing up those services in Wales.

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    Comment number 50.

    ... Norman Lamont speaking of the EU said "It's inconsistent with our parliamentary accountability and democracy."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22470021

    This must ring bells when considering our local Assembly.

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    Comment number 49.

    47.Indy2010
    Agree entirely the WG needs to be accountable and criticised but lets not kid ourselves things are better in England. Would you trust a Tory with your Health. They've decided not to ring fence education anymore so why believe them when it comes to NHS

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    Comment number 48.

    40.TellingmewhatIknowalready
    The demand is there from parents because WM schools do well academically & the emphasis on extra curricular activities Sadly this has been lost in alot of Eng Schools The evidence is there to see whether its exam results or this years Welsh Schools Rugby Finals in Cardiff or Drama Competitions Having another lang. is not just about its use its the skills it enhances

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    Comment number 47.

    #46 What you neglect to say is that it has been identified and action will be taken to rectify, something lacking in WG responses to similar issues in A&E.

    If the action taken does not rectify the situation and if you are in a English Hospital complain, but as most of us in Wales are dealt with by the WG health boards, it is they we should be keeping to account.

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    Comment number 46.

    For our Unionist friends who continually knock the WG. Read the article.
    below. Seems they are no better!!
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22460741
    I'm also waiting for our Unionists amongst you who support UKIP re. their policy on an English Parliament with English MPs. Isn't that devolution???.

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    Comment number 45.

    40.TellingmewhatIknowalready
    you believe that English only speaking parents are sending children to WM schools for the language you are MAD, Can you not hold a conversation without being aggressive in your tone. Obviously there are a lot of mad people. Read the stats on increase in WM schools. Again your views based on no evidence at all.!!

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    Comment number 44.

    42. A little known Swedish pop group called ABBA entered the Eurovision song contest and sang WATERLOO in ENGLISH and the rest is history. If they are continued singing totally in SWEDISH they would surely have become a much bigger group?? Has that icon of welsh singing culture ie. Dafydd Iwan ever sung a English?? He is of course know throughout the world!! 43. Good,hope the WLB have been told!!!

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    Comment number 43.

    ... more good news about the Severn Barrage with 5 companies now collaborating

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22448348

    ... an inclusive [British] way of working.

    ... Carwyn might like to lend his support as the project will add value to the economy of wales.

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    Comment number 42.

    Similarly, a Swedish scientist will expect to read, write and speak English in his professional life without writing letters to Aftonbladet about his right to live his life in Swedish. It would be better to follow Charles V
    "I speak Spanish to God, Italian to women, French to men and German to my horse." (attrib) which summarises the idea of speaking the most appropriate language.

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    Comment number 41.

    #40 I don't have too much problem with WM education to 16, although I am very doubtful if it makes sense for science & technology. But when it comes to paying for conferences for post 18yr education in science in WM...
    Just watch Ahne Dahl on the box (not S4C). When the Dutch cop wants to talk to the Swedish cop. what language does he use ? (Hint: it's not Welsh).
    TBC

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    Comment number 40.

    37. Woodsey. Whose swearing??? If you believe that English only speaking parents are sending children to WM schools for the language you are MAD.It is not parents to blame,but the policies of WAG and the enforcers in the now WLB. I know a lot of English only speakers who are in genuine DESPAIR at this welsh language drive,particularly at BBC Wales. 39. Correct. Its like the old GCC without charm!!

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    Comment number 39.

    ... Fo, the democratic deficit that cannot be addressed in Wales is addressed at Westminster through the national press, as an example, we in Wales do not have such a voice. At Westminster there is the HOL, as a second example, we in Wales have no such scrutiny, just cosy meetings.

    ... the deficit is massive.

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    Comment number 38.

    too true Woodsey. WM schools offer excellent education, long may it continue. The problem though is that the Dear Leader seems hell bent on forcing them to take exams no one else recognises so that not only isnt there social mobility but they won't get a job outside of Wales either. Truly this is becoming North Korea. I must say that even by nationalist standards, Mr Fo is particularly angry.

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    Comment number 37.

    35.TellingmewhatIknowalready

    Get censored for using Welsh but apparently you can swear on here. What ever peoples viewpoints are swearing shows a lack of vocabulary in any language

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    Comment number 36.

    33.TellingmewhatIknowalready
    People choose for their children to go to WM schools no one forces them.. They are popular with alot of Non Welsh Speaking parents who never had the oppurtunities to learn Welsh. Demand is there and you'll find alot of schools in the Valleys in particular are at bursting point

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    Comment number 35.

    Fi FiFo Fum I smell the blood of an Englishman!!. I couldn't give a ****,what you think. We are still allowed views,in little wales that are outside the Nats/Socialist dictums??. Can we vote for UKIP I wonder that has got the a)EU and b) WAG in its sights. I thought state education was to reduce social class,and inequalities,and not entrench it under the guise of the welsh language!!. FACTS ????

 

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