PM fails to re-assure Plaid over EU regional aid

 

As I write, the prime minister is answering questions from MPs on all matters European.

Plaid Cymru's Elfyn Llwyd used the opportunity to seek re-assurance that the EU's regional aid budget - which has sent vast sums into the poorest parts of Wales - wouldn't be cut.

If Mr Llwyd was hoping for re-assurance, he may leave the Commons a disappointed man.

David Cameron told him: "There is a need for some cutbacks in the overall cohesion and structural funds budget of the European union given the fiscal constraints that the net contributors are operating under.

"I also think we should be frank and honest as a country in saying that yes, of course there are regions of the UK that still benefit and should go on benefiting from structural funds, but on the whole structural funds should be for the poorest regions and the poorest countries and actually Britain's negotiating position is different to many other countries in that we don't go to Brussels and simply try and defend every penny that we receive.

"We try and seek an outcome that is right for the whole of the European Union and you can't argue forever for restraining a budget if you want to keep hold of structural funds for countries that are better off than most."

I suspect Plaid Cymru, and others, may return to this subject.

 
David Cornock Article written by David Cornock David Cornock Parliamentary correspondent, Wales

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    Comment number 39.

    37.Boxer_the_Horse
    Did Pembroke and Glamorgan vote for devolution YES or NO and is that democracy.

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    Comment number 38.

    37.Boxer_the_Horse

    You didn't really answer the question. Did Pembroke and Glamorgan vote for devolution YES or NO and is that democracy.
    Didn't the English tribes have conflict? Its not alleged concentration look at the stats. You are always quoting them. How many Billingual Schools in Glam?? I'm also sure there a very large number of non Welsh Speakers that voted for devolution.

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    Comment number 37.

    #36 'what about Glam with the highest concentration of Welsh Speakers '
    Getting our messages confused, aren't we. I thought 'modern' PC had eschewed the 'Wales for the Welsh Speakers' approach. So why should the alleged concentration of Welsh speakers in Glamorgan be decisive in an independence referendum??
    Both sides speaking Welsh never inhibited a little Welsh conflict between princes.

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    Comment number 36.

    34.Boxer_the_Horse
    Monmouth didn't vote for devolution so why not. Glamorgan and Pembrokeshire did, Its called democracy. Plus what about Glam with the highest concentration of Welsh Speakers and North Pembroke as well.Would you suggest relocation to Ceridigion and Gwynedd. It was tried in Europe 1940's

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    Comment number 35.

    #31 'most of the English aristocracy are foreigners'

    Much, certainly - including the House of 'Windsor'

    But 'most' ?? Where do you get your facts from?? The occasional rich American heiress in the Dukedoms. Foreign princesses in Royalty. Some dodgy Welshmen (Tudors) Of course, if you go back to 1066, they are nearly all Norman. But most of us take 3 generations as establishing nationality

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    Comment number 34.

    #33 'seeing those insignifcant countries gaining independence'
    Since Wales,at its greatest extent under Welsh rulers, never included the Marcher lordships, the country getting independence might be even more insignificant than you are assuming.
    If Wales has a right to choose by referendum, why not Monmouth, Glamorgan and Pembrokeshire.
    BTW Scotland and Wales are not equivalent: never were.

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    Comment number 33.

    32.Boxer_the_Horse

    You say region I say nation whatever! I suppose Wales and Scotland are regional teams in sport and not national. Perhaps the rugby should become the six regions.You admit its English sovereignity. Still can't get that Colonial term out of your mind. It must be hard no longer having an Empire and seeing those insignifcant countries gaining independence.

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    Comment number 31.

    30.Boxer_the_Horse
    3 Hours ago
    '#28 'They fought for the allies not that its any of your business '
    You need to get that chip off you shoulder for being English and living in Wales The only one who seems to have a problem with it is you. Regarding arrogance I thought it was an English triat. Re: fierscist Nats wasn't Churchill part American and most of the English aristocracy are foreigners

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    Comment number 30.

    '#28 'They fought for the allies not that its any of your business '
    In one sense, I agree: it isn't. But it is always interesting to see where people are coming from. Even though quite a few people repudiate thir parent's politics. Look at Jacob Rees-Mogg - it probably takes 3 generations to develop such arrogance.
    It interesting that the fiercest nats always seem to be part-foreign (Napoleon

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    Comment number 29.

    Thank you. All this correspondence over your idiosyncratic use of 'native'. Dear me. On your definition my kids are not only Welsh, but native Welsh.
    BTW I should apologise (to the veterans). In correcting an error in not acknowleging Dutch & Belgian allies, I moved from 'Britain & France' to ' England & France.'
    You still can't say 'They fought with Britain'. Interesting.

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    Comment number 28.

    27.Boxer_the_Horse

    They fought for the allies not that its any of your business.

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    Comment number 27.

    #26 'You'll be asking me next if I burnt 2nd Homes.'
    No. And I did say to leave out the indignation. The question I asked, and which you still have totally failed to answer, was :
    ' Did your Irish immediate ancestors fight with Britain and France; remain neutral; or fight with Germany ??'
    I would like a straight answer.

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    Comment number 26.

    25.Boxer_the_Horse
    #24 ' so which side was freedom?
    Oh I see it was England not Scotland, Ireland or Wales that fought with the allies. How naive of me and there's me thinking that we were all in it together. "Adar o'r unlliw, ehedant i'r unlle." You'll be asking me next if I burnt 2nd Homes.

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    Comment number 25.

    #24 ' so which side was freedom?'
    If you have to ask, Woodsey, there's little hope.
    Let's try a simple question. Did your Irish immediate ancestors fight with Britain and France; remain neutral; or fight with Germany ??

    No indignation. No 'side of freedom.' Just 'England &France & Belgium & Netherlands' or 'Germany' or 'Neutral'.

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    Comment number 24.

    23.Boxer_the_Horse

    Why are you giving me a history of Ireland? Its very condescending of you to think that I don't know all these things. Funnily enough some English nationalists don't like minority groups and supported Fascism so which side was freedom

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    Comment number 23.

    I was suggesting that an Irish ancestry lead to matters of conscience in 1939 and thereafter. Funnily enough, some Irish nationalists didn't like the English and supported overt Fascists (Blue Shirts) or obstructive neutrality. Others from the south joined the British forces and were punished for it after WWII by de Valera. Some were already here and conscripted.
    So, which side was freedomv??

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    Comment number 22.

    21.Boxer_the_Horse
    More importantly, whose side were your family on in 1939, and what did they do about it ??

    On the side of freedom both in 1914 and 1939. My relations fought for the common people not any politician. Are you suggesting because of my ancestry that they would do otherwise if so I find it very insulting!

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    Comment number 21.

    #20 'Guess who's side my family were on in 1984 and they now have a statue of Maggie in Westminister.

    More importantly, whose side were your family on in 1939, and what did they do about it ??

    As regards statues, the English are a funny lot. They have statues of Oliver Cromwell and Charles 1st.

    If your parents came over from Ireland, you are using the word 'native' in an eccentric way.

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    Comment number 20.

    19.Boxer_the_Horse

    Of course non-Welsh Speakers are natives Why woulnd't they be? My paternal family came here from Ireland and embraced everything Welsh not just language. Guess who's side my family were on in 1984 and they now have a statue of Maggie in Westminister. Services to her kind of Country

 

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