Home Office anger as AMs vote down Welsh police changes

Police helmets AMs have voted against part of legislation to create elected police commissioners

Related Stories

The Home Office has attacked AMs for voting against part of its legislation on elected police commissioners.

Policing Minister Nick Herbert called their vote "unwise" and said he feared AMs had "cut off their noses to spite their faces".

The UK government wants to bring in elected police commissioners in England and Wales.

But it needs the assembly's permission to introduce police and crime panels to scrutinise the commissioners in Wales.

The panels would affect local government, which is devolved.

AMs voted to refuse their consent in the Senedd on Tuesday night, the first time such a move has happened on Westminster legislation.

Mr Herbert reacted angrily, saying he would push ahead with his plans for elected commissioners anyway. Concessions offered to Wales would be withdrawn, he added.

Start Quote

Police and crime commissioners will go ahead, ensuring that the people in Wales have a real say over how their communities are policed”

End Quote Nick Herbert Home Office minister

But some senior figures in the assembly say the rebuff over police panels may have much larger implications for the way the system of commissioners can now work in Wales.

Mr Herbert wrote to AMs on Monday, urging them to vote in favour of the so-called legislative consent motion. He said he was concerned there may be some misunderstanding about the motion and insisted it was not a vote on the merits of commissioners.

Responding to the vote, Mr Herbert said: "This wasn't a vote on police and crime commissioners because the House of Commons has already decided to introduce them in England and Wales.

"It was a vote to ensure that special arrangements could apply in Wales.

"By unwisely voting against the motion, I regret that some assembly members have cut off their noses to spite their faces, so that these agreed arrangements for Wales, which gave a role for the Welsh Assembly Government, cannot now apply.

"Police and crime commissioners will go ahead, ensuring that the people in Wales have a real say over how their communities are policed."

The assembly government, which is opposed to replacing police authorities with directly-elected commissioners, said it would inform the Home Office of the assembly's decision.

The four Welsh police chief constables last year questioned the need for elected commissioners.

More on This Story

Related Stories

The BBC is not responsible for the content of external Internet sites

More Wales politics stories



  • Peaky Blinders publicity shotBrum do

    Why is the Birmingham accent so difficult to mimic?

  • Oliver CromwellA brief history

    The 900-year-story behind the creation of a UK parliament

  • Image of Ankor Wat using lidarJungle Atlantis

    How lasers have revealed an ancient city beneath the forest

  • Tesco signBest before?

    Has Tesco passed its sell-by date, asks Richard Anderson

  • Agents with the US Secret Service, such as this one, are responsible for guarding the presidentHard at work

    White House break-in adds to Secret Service woes

BBC © 2014 The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Read more.

This page is best viewed in an up-to-date web browser with style sheets (CSS) enabled. While you will be able to view the content of this page in your current browser, you will not be able to get the full visual experience. Please consider upgrading your browser software or enabling style sheets (CSS) if you are able to do so.