Borrowing, budgets and badgers

 

They've done it again.

On the day one 'b' - next year's budget - is signed, sealed and delivered thanks to the deal between Labour and Plaid Cymru and the Welsh government reveals a plan to - another 'b' - borrow to pay for infrastructure projects they could otherwise not afford, it's yet another 'b' that dominates First Minister's Questions. Badgers.

I missed it. I'm tempted to utter another word beginning with 'b' - broadcasting, that is.

Because in the chamber, Carwyn Jones came under pressure for giving his personal go-ahead to an attempt to prevent the broadcast of a repeat episode of soap opera Pobol y Cwm last week.

I won't go into the detail - you'll find it here - but it's about a whole host of 'b' words. It's about badgers, an accusation from a fictional farmer that the government doesn't have the "backbone" to cull them and a real-life complaint to the BBC and the watchdog, Ofcom.

In the chamber Mr Jones stuck to his guns. All three opposition parties stuck the boot in. He was accused by Kirsty Williams of making Lord Leveson's point for him, of trying to "protect your government by censoring a public service broadcaster" on the very day the report into press standards was published. Plaid's Simon Thomas wondered if Mr Jones had seen the programme before complaining. He had - and the script.

Mr Jones was not for turning. No other soap opera "ever in history" had included such direct criticism of the government, he said. There had been no right of reply. That was wrong. Cries of "The Archers" went up around the chamber. Andrew RT Davies wondered whether the FM might have his sights on Gavin and Stacey next for suggesting the M4 is less than perfect.

I'm told those on the Labour benches didn't seem that keen to join in.

While we all await the outcome of those official complaints, listen to my colleague Vaughan Roderick's take on the debate - and join in.

 
Betsan Powys Article written by Betsan Powys Betsan Powys Former political editor, Wales

A big day for health in Wales

A day of big health stories in Wales is capped with a potentially very significant announcement.

Read full article

Comments

This entry is now closed for comments

Jump to comments pagination
 
  • rate this
    +1

    Comment number 28.

    14.Decentjohn

    Always keep up with things! Being abusive shows a bad character Decentjohn. I was making the point that Cameron like many politicians either side of the border are to large extent influenced and in the pockets of tycoons but you needed to resort to a cheap jibes as usual

  • rate this
    +2

    Comment number 27.

    15 + 24 Mab you hurl insults around about "inbreds and blood thirsty anti devos". Rather than apologise when I pointed out that the topic was mainly about C J's attempts to censor the Welsh media, you immediately resort to more insults. I am not sure you will understand but I am against censorship/badger culls and against those who resort to insults.

  • rate this
    +2

    Comment number 26.

    I'm reminded of DJ Mike Read's defence of his definition of 'plonker', it's a piano as far as he was concerned. Making such a trenchant stand made him one instead. And now some-one, being rather grand, is making a grand piano of himself.

  • rate this
    +1

    Comment number 25.

    In the age of devolution Pobol Y Cwm must, from time to time at least, reflect the political realities of Wales, otherwise it's not representative of contemporary Welsh life. Worst still, it would strongly suggest that Welsh Government policy is completely irrelevant, regardless of individual preference. I'm therefore baffled that the First Minister has reacted so strongly.

  • rate this
    -2

    Comment number 24.

    19: I take the the topic was also about Carwyn Jones possible legal threat to the TV show producers of pobl y cwm regarding a plot criticising the WG actions over the badger cull in which I was responding to another poster who said it was necessary whilst rebuffing their argument. My post was valid and my observation of your sort was in fact wrong.You're worse! So apologies to the forementioned S.

  • Comment number 23.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • rate this
    -3

    Comment number 22.

    20: Funny the Town v Countryside argument. Most country folk venture into towns with their huge gas guzzling 4x4s, wreck the countryside with chemicals whilst the Townies visit the countryside, their money/taxes keep their economy, roads & Ifrastructure going as most Welsh live in urban areas over the minority who live the country who argue they are custodians of the Countryside. Ironic & no Bull!

  • rate this
    +2

    Comment number 21.

    Wales has so much to offer and much to do - and wants to do.

    I don't think her representatives are focusing, let alone delivering, on what Wales needs. I would also add that Betsan's reporting on Welsh issues are rather narrow, thus unrepresentative overall. Very disappointing for a BBC journalist who should be impartial and report on much wider issues occurring in Welsh politics.

  • rate this
    +1

    Comment number 20.

    #19 I doubt there is evidence for Alf - a man's vote is private - but I think he is right.
    The last thing that the Cranach want is that everyone should speak Welsh. It's like public schools: it only works if you are a favoured minority. Remember G&S 'If everybody is somebody, then no-one's anybody.' (Gondoliers).

  • rate this
    +1

    Comment number 19.

    16 Alf I would love to see the evidence behind you assertions - cam you provide a link?

    17 As ever Mab you have missed the point. The topic is about the misuse of power by CJ and his attempt to manage the Welsh media.

    To partly quote you - the usual simpletons make assertions out of ignorance - if the cap fits!!

  • rate this
    +1

    Comment number 18.

    Let us try to be fair. If you were producing The Archers, and the Government were planning to tighten up on shotgun ownership, it would be entirely in character if the regulars in The Bull were muttering about townies and know-nothings, regardless of the merits of the proposals. That should not lead to a minister demanding a right of reply, still less a child character damaged by a shotgun.

  • rate this
    -4

    Comment number 17.

    16: Alf, Seeing most inbreds or blood thirsty Anti Devo frustrates want the Slaughter of Badgers over profit than a solution ( Immunisation) many findings say that a cull isn’t the sole answer to TB due to Bird migration, feral animal movement transference. The usual simpltons make assertions out of Ignorence but lets not get scientific evidence or their Devolution failure to muddy the facts.

  • rate this
    0

    Comment number 16.

    Sedwot I can assure you there are probably more Labour and Conservative Welsh speaking voters watch Pobol Y Cwm than you would like to admit. The Welsh Crachach in the Cardiff area more likely to be Tory or Labour now than Plaid. That is how they get their cushy jobs. Especialy with the Eisteddfod I doubt very much they are Plaid supporters. Because they speak Welsh doesn't mean they vote Plaid.

  • rate this
    -1

    Comment number 15.

    Regarding Carwyn Jones possible Legal action over comments made on Pobl y Cwm. Look, firstly the show set a rural setting which most viewers are farmers, blood sport fans and worse inbred Tories which isn't surprising but If the show made misleading libellous remarks about him it's understandable but take it on the chin as it's part of today's trial by media politics. Welsh Democracy & Devolution!

  • rate this
    +1

    Comment number 14.

    9 Woodsey. Does anyone ever talk about Cameron/Rebecca?

    Well yes its been on the news regularly - its been in the national press and some chap called Leverson questioned Cameron about it.

    Do try to keep up!

  • rate this
    +1

    Comment number 13.

    ... is there evidence that Pobol y Cwm viewers are more likely to vote Plaid than other political parties, I suspect not although I don't have contradictory evidence.

    Boxer probably has the rights of this particular tiff with television, politicians don't like criticism, particularly very public (Pobol) criticism !

  • rate this
    0

    Comment number 12.

    Or maybe Carwyn has got it right; drama is very powerful and Pobl has a selected audience which is strongly liable to vote Plaid.

    Would it be Ok for them to run a drip, drip,drip anti Labour campaign then?

  • rate this
    0

    Comment number 11.

    If little Carwyn is to go ballistic over a character's comment in a soap, just think what he would have made of Cathy Come Home if he had been Minister of Housing in 1966, and got a whole Wednesday evening drama on BBC, relentlessly emotionally critical of government policies.

  • rate this
    0

    Comment number 10.

    ... wooodsey, why the three "o's", we have democracy in Britain, and our government is elected democratically at each election, the people decide.

    To imply our Westminster government is not democratically elected, your #9, is dishonest.

  • rate this
    -1

    Comment number 9.

    7.celticfringe

    North Korea what planet are you from. Welsh Government was democratically voted in twice more than can be said of the present Government in England. Does anyone ever talk about Jeremy Hunt or Cameron's close relationship with Rebecca. That's lunacy!!

 

Page 1 of 2

 

Features

BBC © 2014 The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Read more.

This page is best viewed in an up-to-date web browser with style sheets (CSS) enabled. While you will be able to view the content of this page in your current browser, you will not be able to get the full visual experience. Please consider upgrading your browser software or enabling style sheets (CSS) if you are able to do so.