The four take on the one-in-four


"What it can feel like to be depressed ... a feeling of senseless, open-minded grief. That pain can be so all consuming that it crushes out every other thought and feeling from your mind."

"I'd become to detached from my life I wasn't really living it anymore".

"Standing in a room crying for no apparent reason isn't something that a thirty year old man usually admits to - but that's where I found myself. I hid it. I hid it very, very well."

"It came to the point where I was absolutely terrified that the only way to end the illness would be to end life."

"I found it stopped me from bonding properly with the new baby and one sad reminder of that time is that I have only one photo of my daughter as a young baby. Those first four months just aren't recorded."

You'll have worked it out by now but yes, those are the voices and experiences of Assembly Members, shared in the chamber this afternoon with one specific, shared end in mind: to stamp out prejudice against those who suffer - or who have ever suffered - from a mental health problem.

It was an unusual debate, the product of a new mechanism that is meant to encourage more fruitful cross-party thinking and debating in the Senedd. In fact, thought Labour's Ken Skates, it felt less a debate than a challenge - a challenge for AMs, for the Welsh government and for Wales as a whole.

One-in-four was the statistic that stood out for me - not that one-in-four of us have or will suffer from a mental health issue at some point in our lives. I'd heard that, knew that, had mulled it over before this afternoon. The striking one-in-four for me was the number of us who believe those who've suffered from illnesses like depression, anxiety or postnatal depression should not hold public office. Shame, said David Melding.

"I have to say as a Welsh Conservative I'm used to the fact that three out of four people in Wales don't believe Tories should hold public office but ..."

Cue relieved laughter.

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    Comment number 45.

    Boxer why do you and others persist in this illogical exercise about the road to Independnce. You know full well it will never happen until the majority of people in Wales vote for it. According to you and others the vast majority of people don't want it. So why do you all persist in pursuing this if you believe it will never happen. Or are you afraid it will.

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    Comment number 44.

    'Boxer please can you confirm that Pembroke and Cardiff voted for devolution'
    What they voted for, if you care to check, was that WAG could pass the primary legislation in areas that were already devolved.
    If you regarded this as a sensible tidting up exercise, you voted 'Yes'

    If many had realised it would be taken as a step on the unstoppable path to independence, many would not have.

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    Comment number 43.

    Going back to Pobol and badgers:
    How come the suits get away with 'Ministers have complained to S4C' Only HRH Pof W gets away with anonymity of correspondence.
    If they are stupid enough to complain, they should sign the complaint, and our resident team of BBC journalists should name him / her / them.

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    Comment number 42.

    #39 Alf. You don't think that he could have been daft enough to have taken the time to reply to my posting, then complained and got it removed, thus making a complete nonsense of his own posting ??

    Could he ??

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    Comment number 41.

    #39 with respect, Alf, it wasn't and isn't. If I am to have a serious blog on dementia removed because someone I don't know has a relative that I have never heard of with the condition, and that someone successfully complains that he is upset...I can't be bothered with him. Or his questions.
    See how long this lasts.

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    Comment number 40.


    Boxer go on I no it hurts. Pembroke and Glamorgan how did they vote. Was democracy the winner?

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    Comment number 39.

    Bit too personal that boxer and insensitive.

  • Comment number 38.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 37.


    That's exactly what we asked Jane Hutt when we applied for the treatmnt that was available in England. Yes, that's England where a therapy was available but Jane Hutt refused to pay for it.

    You, on the other hand merely made sport and fun of the fact that the therapy was in England

    Did it make you feel good for a moment?

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    Comment number 36.

    Lost the plot Boxer when you start using comments such as little friend and he is the one that watches Pobl y Cwm. Firstly I'm 6' 2" and secondly I'm one of 500,000 who reguarly watch it. Not bad stats for pop. of 3m

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    Comment number 35.


    What is the problem with answering a simple question. Is it because you are afraid of the answer maybe? Great thing democracy

  • Comment number 34.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 33.

    I assure you Boxer both sides had their say on the program. It reflects what is going on with farmers and their frustration. Cathy Come Home would never have been aired if the Government of the time did the same thing. Surely WAG are a bit more grown up than this. Aren't they. There was me calling them mature last week. I take it back this is embarrasing

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    Comment number 32.


    Boxer please can you confirm that Pembroke and Cardiff voted for devolution, Yes or No will suffice. I've asked on several posts.

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    Comment number 31.

    We will go back to the Stalinist days of the 1950s, when 'Nice' Dan Archer read out boiler-plate on eradication of Codlin moth on behalf of the Min of Ag; and all the old gaffers in The Bull were grateful to the Gov for their 12/6 old age pension.
    I'l have to take thier word for it, of course, it being in Welsh ..

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    Comment number 30.

    I see that WAG is objecting to a BBC soap because some of its characters fail to doff their caps to WAG and WAG cannot have a right to reply.

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    Comment number 29.

    #27 '

    How can you address a problem when you know nothing of it's nature?'

    Medicine doesn't always work from science to understanding to cure.
    Foxgloves were used successfully in heart problems for hundreds of years before the science was understood.
    Lithium appears to be useful in mania but its mode of action is still not obvious.

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    Comment number 28.

    Good point dumbskunk. One Psychiatrist told my wife she was cured of Bipolar and sugar tablets would do the same thing as the medication she was then on. 4 months later she was admitted into Hospital under section. So what do they really know.

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    Comment number 27.

    How can you address a problem when you know nothing of it's nature?

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    Comment number 26.

    That' smentally and, and not snd, sorry.


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