Supreme caught and bowled
We still don't know for sure whether Lord Carnwath, or indeed any of the five judges who sat in the Supreme Court last month, have ever ventured anywhere near a tattoo parlour in Swansea. We do now know where they stand on the legality of the first bill passed by the Assembly. They are unanimous that it is lawful.
In coming to that conclusion they rejected the Attorney General's view that the Local Government By-laws Bill overstepped the boundaries of what is devolved. It may, they decided, have encroached slightly on the powers of the Welsh Secretary and therefore the UK government but only ever so slightly and in a way that struck them, therefore, as appropriate.
Looking back at what I wrote at the time, the clue to the outcome was in some of the questioning:
But I'm also listening to Lord Carnwath struggling out loud to understand what one earth the Secretary of State for Wales' role would be in reality, if Swansea Council were to change the bye-laws with regard to tattoo parlours. No matter what the bare legal analysis, he ventured to suggest, isn't this really all about a political settlement and just how far devolution has come in practice?
Lord Hope picked up the theme. Whatever the complexities of the clauses, sections and sub-sections, 'the nub of the issue' he argued, was what the Bill was meant to achieve and whether it achieves that, or not.
You can read the judgement in full here.
In the Wales Office in London the response was pragmatic. It's a good thing, said the Secretary of State David Jones, that the somewhat hazy boundaries of what is devolved and what is not have become just a little clearer. That's one jagged edge filed down just a little. This is how it works. Raising the question wasn't a hostile act.
In Cardiff Bay there was, um, quiet elation. Why? Because it's about more than one bill that will now become law. It is, as the First Minister told me this morning, one in the eye for those who tend to think that whenever the two governments test each other, 'London must be right.' It turns out that in law, on this occasion, there was every justification for the confidence in Cardiff Bay that London was wrong.
Who are those people, I asked? A commentator or two were mentioned and - get this - it turns out the First Minister sometimes drops in on the blog and you, those who regularly leave what I'll call sceptical comments, got a mention too.
But there's another reason for the Welsh goverment to be rather pleased - the timing.
On Monday the Silk commission published its report on how Wales should in future be funded. Paul Silk and his commissioners now move on to consider the current devolution settlement. The perfect moment then for Carwyn Jones to point to today's ruling and re-iterate a plea - instead of letting the Supreme Court set the boundaries of devolution, case by case, tattoo parlour by tattoo parlour, wouldn't it be in everyone's interests to look again at the devolution settlement as a whole. Rather than rely on their lordships, why not make it clearer in one fell swoop what the Welsh government can and can't do.
Your comments are welcome - and as we now know, sometimes, they get to the top.
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Comment number 80.
FoDafydd22nd November 2012 - 23:54
Re 79
Celticace,
You say:
'I do not want to join the Welsh supremacist bandwagon, I want to ensure parity for all...'
I don't understand what you're saying or your logic. Could you please explain that comment, without reserting to crude insults?
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Comment number 79.
Celticace22nd November 2012 - 22:33
Again Alf, Purr on. I do not want to join the Welsh supremacist bandwagon, I want to ensure parity for all and accountability through Government to the point departments are required to account for all they spend and taxation is accounted for to the penny, not the financial 'black hole' of taxation and expenditure we have now, We must eliminate overspends and make our leaders accountable
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Comment number 78.
alfsplace198622nd November 2012 - 22:26
Then I hope you don't get left behind. The half baked peocemeal approach was forced on us by Westminster. So the WG has to work with that restriction and the rusty tools it was given to work with. Two legal wins against the might of Westminster. They are activities to be proud of. Don't forget what the Westminster Government has got away with. Where has the accountability been there.
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Comment number 77.
Celticace22nd November 2012 - 22:18
Sorry Alf I see nothing realistic with this half baked piecemeal approach, and it certainly lacks accountability. Domineering and arrogant attitude of Westminster? I don't see that I'm afraid, still too many questions and too few answers yet, and certainly a lack of accountability for the activities of the Bay. I'm not sold on it thanks
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Comment number 76.
alfsplace198622nd November 2012 - 22:10
Then Celt we are all on the same side a realistic way forward for Wales. With the judgment favouring the WG and the AG giving in on the Language Bill it is a start. A little acorn perhaps. But it does show Wales can overcome the domineering and arrogant attitude of Westminster. It has shown its maturity. It can only grow and gain strength on that confidence. You as well as us can be a part of it.
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