Man, 78, drove drunk to swimming pool to have shower

Thomas Miller Thomas Miller drank alcohol his wife had hidden before she went on holiday out of "devilment"

A 78-year-old man who drove to the swimming pool to have a shower while three times the alcohol limit has been banned from driving.

Thomas Miller got drunk on 4 July after discovering alcohol his wife had hidden from him before she went on holiday.

After drinking it out of "devilment", he tried to drive to the pool in Kinross for a shower because his heating system had broken down.

He was banned from driving for 20 months and fined £1,000.

Miller claimed he had felt "absolutely nothing" after consuming the alcohol.

Police pulled him over in his Ford Ka at about 20:00 on Springfield Road in Kinross, where he failed a roadside breath test.

'Stupid mistake'

The pensioner was arrested and taken to the police station, where he recorded a lower level of 115mg of alcohol in 100ml of breath, the legal limit being 35.

Defending, solicitor John Adams said: "He had had a new heating system put in. It is faulty just now, so the reason for this drive was to go to Kinross swimming pool for a shower.

"Earlier that day his wife had gone on holiday and hidden the alcohol from him. He consumed it out of devilment and was then over the limit for driving.

"This was a stupid mistake. It seems like it was a one-off matter."

Sheriff Frank McGowan told Perth Sheriff Court: "He said he consumed the alcohol and felt absolutely nothing.

"That is the explanation he has given, but I am pretty sceptical about that."

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Scotland Decides: SCOTLAND VOTES NO

  1. No 2,001,926
  2. Yes 1,617,989
After 32 of 32 counts Results in detail

Referendum Live

    14:24: People's panel

    Almost a year ago, the BBC gathered together a group of voters from across Scotland.

    Ballot paper

    Some planned to vote Yes, others No, and a group of 10 remained undecided.

    We caught up with them after they voted to find out which box they put their 'X' in.

    Email: 14:17: Views from Wales

    Lisa: Regarding the Scottish referendum: Would you please stop concentrating on Scotland and English devolution? The two very big losers in this conversation are Northern Ireland and the biggest consequence is that of further cuts to Wales. Underfunded by £300m a year in the most deprived country in the union. If all eyes are on Edinburgh in Westminster they simply cannot ignore Northern Ireland and Wales.

    Clive: As a passionate Welshman, and somebody who is proud to call himself British, I applaud Gordon Brown's speech. Globalisation has made a significant change not only in Scotland, but across the traditional heartlands of the nation. Really pleased Scotland has decided to remain part of the union, we are stronger together but there has to be change in terms of social and economic justice across the whole nation.

    14:11: Petition calls for re-vote

    There is also a petition with over 71,000 signatures on the website demanding a "re-vote of the Scottish Referendum, counted by impartial international parties".

    14:05: West Lothian Question

    Can the West Lothian question be answered? Read what the problem is and what each party is saying about the issue.

    13:56: Votes rigged?

    Politician and Yes campaigner Jim Sillars has called for an investigation into potential vote rigging in the Scottish independence referendum.

    Mr Sillars tweeted: This vote rigging video is disturbing, enquiry required

    13:44: Daily Telegraph

    Daily Telegraph reporter Ben Riley-Smith has tweeted: Alex Salmond took SNP from electoral irrelevance to brink of winning independence. One of modern Britain's most successful party leaders?

    Yesterday, the Daily Telegraph published a video which showed Mr Riley-Smith being refused entry to the press conference where Mr Salmond resigned.

    13:26: Fancy a hug?

    A caring Scot has decided to set up a Facebook event encouraging people to hug someone who voted differently to them.

    The organiser Angela Brin pleads: "Let's take back our beautiful country and show the world that we are better than the violent behaviour shown by the few that are causing trouble for the sake of it.

    Facebook hug pic

    "For now, please hug someone that voted differently from you, post a photo of you together and let's take #TeamScotland forward in the spirit of peace and love.

    "Hugs can heal. Are you with me?"

    Angela hopes people take part in the act on 25 September.

    13:20: History of Alex Salmond

    In November, First Minister Alex Salmond's second 10-year spell in charge of the Scottish National Party will come to an end.

    Alex Salmond

    You can read Mr Salmond's story here.

    @NicolaSturgeon 13:19: Nicola Sturgeon, Deputy First Minister

    Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon tweets: More than 4000 people have joined @theSNP in last 36 hours. Many from Labour, many new to politics.

    @iainmacwhirter 13:16: Iain Macwhirter, political commentator, Herald and Sunday Herald

    Iain Macwhirter, political commentator, Herald and Sunday Herald, tweets: Must not allow Brown's lock in to be a lock out. All of Scottish civil society needs to be involved in this legislation. Not just Labour.

    13:16: From glorious failure to finest hour

    Trainspotting author Irvine Welsh, writing in the Guardian newspaper, say the Scots have reinvented the idea of democracy.

    "This country, when it was ever known on the global stage under the union, was associated with tragedy, in terrible events like Lockerbie and Dunblane; it's now synonymous with real people power," he writes.

    "Forget Bannockburn or the Scottish Enlightenment, the Scots have just reinvented and re-established the idea of true democracy. This - one more - glorious failure might also, paradoxically, be their finest hour."

    Text: 80295 13:07: Get involved

    BBC News website reader: I voted No at the Scottish referendum. Listening to what I am now hearing post the 55/45 split. If the vote was today I would vote Yes. I listened and trusted the main UK leaders. This would appear to be a poor choice on my part.

    Email: 13:05:

    David: As a Scot living in the North West of England I would have supported the No campaign, if I'd had a vote. But I'm deeply grateful to the Yes vote for the sheer scale of the Yes vote.

    The repercussions of that will be felt south of the border in that the Westminster status quo cannot now continue. You've done us a huge favour down here by upsetting the cosy Westminster approach to regional politics.

    You might not have got what you wanted - but you've done a lot of good in helping to ensure that the whole political scene, north and south of the border must and will change.

    Come back in 5 years and there will be a decisive Yes majority

    13:03: Sturgeon 'would want election'

    Earlier, former SNP leader Gordon Wilson tipped Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon to take over from Alex Salmond.

    However, he doesn't think the job will be given to her on a plate.

    Mr Wilson said: "I think she herself may want to have an election, rather than being crowned.

    "The outcome of that, I'm certain, is not in doubt. But most leaders, including myself and also Alex Salmond, prefer to be one amongst candidates so that you then get a vote from the Scottish National Party delegates which in a sense confers legitimacy."

    Tweet @bbcscotlandnews 13:02: Get involved

    Nigel Nobes: Across politics there's a widely held belief that Gordon Brown saved the day with brilliant speeches. He's still doing it. Make him PM again!

    Ben Hart: People wanting Gordon Brown back after a good speech or two need to remember the Nick Clegg phenomenon 4 years ago.

    Hayley Röhrich Ford: Superb speech from Gordon Brown this morning in Fife. Very engaging.

    Podders: The same thing is happening to Gordon Brown as happened to John Major - they're now treated like wise elder statesmen, They are failures.

    Email: 13:00: Send us your views

    Ted Wade: I worry that reviewing the constitution and delivering what was promised for Scotland is going to become a political football at Westminster. Already, David Cameron is wanting to get everything done and dusted by March 2015 and put into place by May 2015 before the General Election. The view is that this is far too quick for a well thought out, and agreed, settlement. The last thing which is needed are the main political parties disagreeing over what will be a major constitutional change. Unless all parties get together and look at this from an overall view point it will be another dogs' breakfast piece of legislation.

    12:53: Local reaction

    Aberdeen's Press & Journal has sought reaction to First Minister Alex Salmond's resignation from Strichen - the village he calls home and casted his referendum vote in.

    Alex Salmond

    "He must be exhausted," says one villager.

    Email: 12:51: Get involved

    Andrew: Very rarely in politics does a negative message triumph over a positive message, but that is exactly what has happened in the Scottish independence referendum. The Yes campaign had the positive, upbeat message of growth, prosperity, independence and autonomy; the embodiment of the "We can do it" attitude almost. But the SNP and Alex Salmond failed to deliver this message appropriately and failed to give assurances that in fact an independent Scotland could stand on its own two feet. In the end it was the negative message of the No campaign, with all of its criticisms, warnings and negativity towards independence which won the day. Alex Salmond has now quite rightfully chosen to step down from his position as First Minister and leader of the SNP because he has failed to deliver on Scottish independence, something that should have been a formality if he had chosen the correct approach and done the correct legacy planning for.

    12:46: Looking back

    If you need a reminder on how exactly we got to the stage of holding a referendum on Scottish independence, then the radio programme Yes and No: Voices from the Campaign looks back at the key moments leading up to Thursday's vote and is available on BBC iPlayer.

    Yes/No banners

    The programme includes highlights from the referendum results programme and reaction from both sides.

    12:43: Scotland 'stunned'
    The Courier

    The Courier runs with the headline "Salmond steps down", saying Scotland was stunned by the move.

    Email: 12:42: Add to the debate

    Janet Draper: I'm concerned that we will continue to hear people saying that the job of the SNP is to hold Westminster to account and to make sure the promises are kept....

    The job of the Scottish government now is to achieve the best arrangements for all the people of Scotland in the complex circumstances with which Scotland is faced. This is not a time for party politics... but for a government behaving like a government of all Scots.

    12:40: Nick Eardley BBC News

    George Square is deserted this morning, just hours after ugly scenes saw police arrest six people when loyalist protesters turned up at a place that had become the centre of sporadic Yes campaign support in Glasgow.

    There is almost no indication of last night's confrontation, with the exception of steel fencing surrounding the various monuments in the square.

    George Square

    A lifeless Saltire hangs from a ledge on the Sir Walter Scott plinth in the middle and a statue of Robert Burns has been decorated with a tartan hat and scarf, but otherwise there is little to see.

    One couple told me they were horrified by the scenes they saw on television from the square last night. But today, save for a few tourists, there's not much to see.

    12:35: 'Nats all folks'

    The Scottish Sun splashes with a mocked up Looney Tunes image, with the headline "Nats all folks".

    The paper says Mr Salmond was "close to tears" during the announcement, which came after a "crushing referendum defeat".

    The Scottish Sun

    The paper, in its editorial, describes the first minister as "true colossus". And in a personal tribute, Ms Sturgeon says the "personal debt of gratitude" she owes Mr Salmond "is immeasurable".

    12:26: Analysis: English cannot be 'fobbed off' Chris Mason Political correspondent, BBC News

    Constitutional change very, very rarely happens quickly - and yet there was that promise before the referendum that it would in the case of Scotland.

    Both the Conservatives and Labour have said that they will honour that promise but here is the sticking point: Can the two issues of England and Scotland be unpicked?

    Labour is insisting that the two should be unpicked, that devolution for England cannot be rushed and that there has to be conversation in the rest of the UK, just as there's been a conversation in Scotland.

    But the Conservatives say the two have to remain together - that the English cannot be fobbed off.

    This will not be easy to resolve.

    Email: 12:25: Thoughts of readers

    Andy Dorward: The politics of promising what you can never deliver is constantly rife within all the current UK parties, no matter who gives the speech.

    I voted on the one simple question asked on the ballot paper.. should Scotland be independent from the rest of the UK? This referendum has caused some divisions among the average people of the UK I feel will never heal in the future.

    The politicians and government of the UK should now turn all their efforts to getting this country back on its feet and prospering before they look to other countries' welfare.

    12:23: More powers for cities

    The Labour Mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson, has been speaking to the BBC and says English cities should be given more powers.

    He said: "It's absolutely right that we can decide, with the money raised in our city, how we spend that money and how we determine what is in our best interests.

    "Whether it be on welfare, whether it be on employment and training and skills, whether it be on education and health. All of those things we know better than people in Whitehall, who have no connection to Liverpool at all."

    12:22: Britain changing

    Earlier, on Radio Scotland's Morning Call, journalist Simon Pia said: "[David] Cameron has woken up and smelt the haggis, or whatever you want to call it. He realises something has changed fundamentality in Britain and people in England, and Wales and Northern Ireland have recognised that too."

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 12:21: Get involved

    @OllyDeed tweets: And Gordon Brown's performance in the last two weeks has been exceptional. Sort of performance that eluded him as Prime Minister #indyref

    12:19: 'Positive cynicism'

    Women for Independence's Jeane Freeman has called for Scots to show "positive cynicism" over the offer of new powers that's on the table.

    Ms Freeman said: "We have to be cynical a bit about that. The points about previous track records and the basis on which you trust people is well made - but we still need to say let's give them the opportunity to prove that they do mean what they have said and they will deliver this. But not from the sidelines."

    12:16: Church of Scotland's message

    The Moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland will ask Scots to put their differences aside and work together to redefine Scotland's place within the UK now that the referendum is over.

    The Rt Rev John Chalmers will speak before Scotland's political leaders at St Giles' Cathedral in Edinburgh on Sunday morning.

    Email: 12:15: Add to the debate

    Jim Christie: I have this nagging feeling that more devolved power for Scotland will not happen within the timetable set out by Mr Brown. I foresee many MPs watering down the proposals or simply voting against the same. In reality, do the Westminster parties actually want to lose power not just to Scotland but to other parts of the UK?

    12:14: 'Dream will never die'

    The Herald runs with a quote from Mr Salmond's speech, in which he said "the dream shall never die" - referring to independence - on its front page.


    The paper describes the announcement as "dramatic" and speculates that local government minister Derek Mackay and Humza Yousaf, the minister for external affairs, may also stand for the leadership.

    Columnist Iain Macwhirther writes of the resignation that Mr Salmond "was astute enough to realise that his time had finally come".

    12:12: 'Beaten but unbowed'

    The Daily Record, on its front page, describes Mr Salmond as "beaten but unbowed", running with a picture of the First Minister with his wife Moira after they left his official home in Edinburgh, Bute House.

    Daily Record

    The paper's political editor David Clegg says Mr Salmond "took the cause of Scottish nationalism to unimaginable victories" before Friday's "agonising defeat".

    12:09: Sturgeon strikes back? Douglas Fraser Business and economy editor, Scotland

    How long til #indyref 2 - 'Sturgeon Strikes Back'? There are obstacles, but 1.6m 'yes' voters won't go away. My blog.

    12:08: Bishops write to Salmond

    Archbishop Philip Tartaglia, The President of the Bishops' Conference of Scotland, has sent a letter to First Minister Alex Salmond following his resignation announcement.

    Archbishop Tartaglia wrote: "On behalf of the Bishops Conference of Scotland, I want to acknowledge your long and outstanding career in politics, and your distinguished service as First Minister of Scotland. With good reason, you have been described as one of the most able and influential political leaders that Scotland and the United Kingdom has ever produced.

    Pope in Scotland visit

    "The Bishops are especially grateful for your recognition of the important place of religion and faith in Scotland, for your support of Catholic education as making its own distinctive contribution to the good of Scotland as a whole, and for your sensitivity to the issues around religious freedom which are emerging in our country as they are elsewhere.

    "And lastly, we remain grateful for the support and assistance given by your government before and during the visit of Pope Benedict XVI to Scotland in 2010."

    Email: 12:00: Your emails

    Allan Cathal: Change is coming to the UK. Wales and Northern Ireland are going to fight for the same conditions as Scotland has obtained. The English regions and the big cities are looking for devolution.

    There is a call for an English Parliament with devolved powers and a call for Scottish Labour MPs not to be allowed to vote on English issues. All in all an interesting time coming in next months and years. But one thing is certain the UK will never be the same again.

    12:00: Scottish papers

    Mr Salmond's resignation is also dominating the front pages of the Scottish press.

    The Scotsman says he led his party "from a minority movement into an election-winning political machine".


    The newspaper says there is "little doubt" Mr Salmond's deputy Nicola Sturgeon is favourite to succeed him as leader.

    David Torrance, analysing the impact of Mr Salmond on Scottish politics, says he is "perhaps the most significant politician to emerge from Scotland in the past three decades".

    11:59: Paper review

    Outside of Scotland, today's Sun and Star opt for other stories on the front page with a Strictly Come Dancing tale for The Sun and the Daily Star choosing to splash a mum attacked by spiders.

    However, they both find a small space on their front pages for short stories on Alex Salmond's resignation.

    11:56: Reaction to Brown

    Jeane Freeman of Women for Independence spoke to Kaye Adams on Morning Call about Gordon Brown's speech.

    She said: "I thought the tone of his speech was exactly the right tone. In that it was not triumphalist in any way, it was magnanimous, and I thought he made a number of perceptive points in terms of understanding why a lot of people had voted for independence.

    "That it was about what we believed independence could offer us the opportunity to do in terms of poverty, social justice, a fairer re-distribution of the wealth of Scotland.

    "But the thing in all of this that's struck me since the early hours of Friday morning - at no point in that timetable am I seeing a reference to our Scottish parliament, our Scottish government. I hope civil servants are involved in this drafting, because it really won't work to take what we have had which is a two-year long detailed, thorough conversation and debate, parcel it up and take it down to Westminster and say "okay, thanks we'll deal with it now."

    11:51: McKay: Big job

    Sir William added: "If anybody attempted to quite fundamentally alter the procedure of the House of Commons at the same time as altering the constitution, then it's a very, very big job indeed."

    11:49: West Lothian Question

    Sir William McKay, who chaired a panel of experts looking at issues around the West Lothian question, has been speaking to the BBC.

    He says on the proposed pace of constitutional change, the immediate problem is difficult "but probably solvable with goodwill".

    Email: 11:46: Get involved

    Marcus Tait: I sincerely hope for the sake of everyone in this country that the current administration don't think they can drag their heels on this. I felt strongly that we Scots should stand together with the rest of the UK who also feel poorly represented by the current political system.

    If they continue to show signs of backing out, I worry we shall see serious social unrest right across the country not just in Scotland. Westminster needs a shake up to bring it up to speed with where the world is today.

    11:43: Should Salmond have gone earlier?

    Speaking on Morning Call on Radio Scotland earlier, Scott from West Lothian believes Alex Salmond could have helped to win a Yes vote by resigning last week.

    He said: "My opinion is a wee bit controversial in that I think if Alex Salmond decided to leave a week before the vote, and said that he would no longer be part of the Yes Scotland movement going forward, that would've swung as many No voters back to Yes because the amount of people that say 'I'm not voting for Yes because I'm not voting for Alex Salmond'."

    Email: 11:40: Have your say

    Craig: I believe that once all constitutional changes have been made, history will regard Alex Salmond as having been one of the most influential figures in British (not only Scottish) political history. The most formidable debater of his generation.

    Text: 80295 11:39: Get involved

    Mike: The reason for the level of engagement in Scotland is simple. It was not only the magnitude of the issue but the plain fact that every vote counted. A No vote in Glasgow went onto the pile and not into the bin. It wasn't a 28-4 victory for No, it was 2 million - 1.6 million. First past the post means that only the winner's votes don't end up in the bin.

    @KennyFarq 11:38: Kenny Farquharson, Deputy Editor of The Scotsman & Scotland on Sunday

    Kenny Farquharson, Deputy Editor of The Scotsman, went on Twitter earlier to give some analysis on where Yes supporters go from here.

    He said: "The Yes movement has yet to grasp that, even in defeat, it has huge power to shape the new Scotland. Can legitimately push for next phase of home rule to be much more radical that currently envisaged. But it has to get involved, and not just sit back and wish for the Westminster process to fail.

    Those 1.6m votes can be used to transform the home rule debate and move Scotland further forward than would otherwise have been the case. Have a Plan B. Be the change, in the new world you have to live in. Put that positivity to use."

    11:32: SNP faces 'big job'

    Stephen Gethins, former adviser to Alex Salmond, told the BBC News Channel he thinks the role of the SNP is now more important than ever.

    The SNP has a "big job" on its hands to make sure the leaders of the three Westminster parties keep their pledge to devolve further powers to Scotland, he says.

    11:31: Sillars praises Salmond Laura Bicker Scotland Correspondent, BBC News

    Jim Sillars on Alex Salmond's resignation - "I was sorry he did so. Alex Salmond is a nationalist hero and he will be long remembered as such when those who opposed him are long forgotten for the little people they are. What Scotland owes to Alex will long be remembered."

    Email: 11:31: Have your say

    Steve Mansfield: I agree strongly with Mr Powell (09:47). Most of the UK, and particularly its politicians, seem to have sleepwalked into the referendum and put the Union at risk. Its break up seemed inconceivable to a lot of people in England. September 18 was a night of great tension and worry. he Scottish people saved the Union and it is time to ensure that the promises made to them are kept.

    11:29: Journalist's job

    Journalist David Torrance has his take on how the media has treated First Minister Alex Salmond. He said: "What intrigues me from previous callers is that he does seem to be subject to different rules from other politicians.

    "The feeling that somehow journalists have taken an unpleasant tone with him...that's a journalist's job - to be disrespectful.

    "If you want to compare and contrast with how a politician has been treated, just think back to when Gordon Brown was Prime Minister for three years and the absolute pasting he got day after day in the press, particularly in London. I don't remember people leaping to his defence."

    11:27: Young voters

    Young Scots aged 16 and 17 were allowed to vote for the first time in UK history in the referendum and it's thought that around 100,000 of them made their mark, making up about 3% of everyone who voted.

    BBC Breakfast's Naga Munchetty was joined by two voters who explained how they voted and why.


    Charlotte Jackson said she voted No because she felt it was better to remain in the UK "for stability and security". "Also my family is English so it was kind of from the heart - I felt like I didn't want to separate from my family."

    Sean Warrington says "decisions for Scotland are best made in Scotland". He believes it is important young people voted as "you can't complain about the outcome unless you voted", adding that getting young people to vote from the age of 16 might make them more likely to vote later in life.

    11:23: Caller confusion

    Also on the programme, John in Edinburgh mixed presenter Kaye Adams up with former BBC presenter and "Yes" supporter Lesley Riddoch.

    He said: "You yourself Lesley were very biased in your commentary on TV through the night, and that was very notable to me."

    Kaye quickly pointed out that she was not Lesley Riddoch, to which John replied "having made a fool of myself, thanks very much for taking my call."

    11:21: No lover of Salmond

    Earlier today, John from Glasgow contacted Morning Call.

    He said: "As far as I'm concerned, I'm glad the man's away. As soon as he came on television, I couldn't wait to get my remote and switch it. I think he was presumptuous, self-centred, arrogant, and as far as I'm concerned - thank God he's away."

    11:18: 'Ballroom blitzed'

    The Daily Mirror has a slightly more off-kilter take on the referendum result.

    It ponders what the future holds for Judy Murray in Strictly Come Dancing after her tennis champion son Andy's endorsement of independence. The paper says this has "blitzed" her chances of surviving the first public vote on the BBC One show.

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 11:17: Have your say

    @LucyB_Ry tweets: If Devo Max had been on the ballot paper in the first place, we could have avoided all of this. #indyref

    11:15: The Motion

    Here is the text of the motion that will be put before the UK Parliament by the three Better Together parties:

    "That this House welcomes the result of the Scottish independence referendum and the decision of the people of Scotland to remain part of the United Kingdom; recognises that people across Scotland voted‎ for a Union based on the pooling and sharing of resources and for the‎ continuation of devolution inside the United Kingdom; notes the statement by the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition regarding the guarantee of and timetable for further devolution to Scotland; calls on the Government to lay before Parliament a Command Paper including the proposals of all three UK political parties by 30th October and to consult widely with the Scottish people, civic Scotland and the Scottish Parliament on these proposals; further calls on the Government to publish heads of agreement by the end of November and draft clauses for the new Scotland Bill by the end of January 2015."

    11:14: Ed Miliband speech

    On the eve of the final Labour conference before the 2015 UK general election, Ed Miliband closes his speech by declaring: "Britain needs a new plan for you and your family, Britain needs a new government. We're going to make it happen and we're going to show how this week."

    11:13: Brown: Build better Scotland together

    Mr Brown ends his hour-long address to a standing ovation, following these final words: "I don't want to go on feeling that we are going to weep for a beloved but divided country. I don't want the Great in Great Britain to look shakey... I don't want a United Kingdom united in name only... Let's build a better Scotland together."

    11:11: Brown: New chapter

    Gordon Brown ends his speech by saying: "I hope that we can move beyond the old. That we can start a new chapter now.

    "I hope that the government of Scotland and the UK government will come together - not just to deliver the devolution we've been promised but to deal with basic social and economic challenges that we can only do best if we do them together and not apart."

    @JohnRentoul 11:11: John Rentoul, Independent on Sunday

    John Rentoul, from the Independent on Sunday tweets: Gordon Brown has just called it "the websphere". I am going to use that every day.

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 11:09: Have your say

    @bronaghHope tweets: Sorry #Gordon Brown but my facebook and twitter feed was full of people from Belfast, Dublin, London, Canada, Australia, USA to vote #YesHave

    11:04: Miliband pledge

    Ed Miliband also claims: "This country doesn't work for most working people and we the Labour party are going to change it".

    10:59: Brown: United family

    "What people are trying to create is a myth - that there is such a distance between Scottish people and the English - or Scottish people and Welsh ad northern Irish people. That the differences are irreconcilable and can never be bridged."

    He goes on to say: "Don't let us believe there are irreconcilable differences... Let us be part of one united family."

    10:57: Ed Miliband speech

    Speaking in Manchester on the eve of the Labour Party conference, Labour leader Ed Miliband says "the last few months have been about keeping our country together" and that "the next eight months are about how we change our country together".

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews Whay do you think?

    @lornanrobert tweets: The union is breaking #gordon brown we wanted indy for what we wanted, not what you said we wanted. It will break!

    10:54: 'Unite us all'

    The Daily Telegraph illustrates the Queen's "pledge" with a striking image of the monarch at her Balmoral estate in the Highlands - where she was yesterday when the verdict was announced.


    The paper says the No vote was greeted "not with delirium" but with "relief" across much of the UK and a "deep foreboding on what the future holds".

    10:52: Brown plea

    Speaking about the relationship between the Scottish and UK governments, Mr Brown says: "Instead of this stand off - instead of them talking amongst themselves and not to each other, instead of this war of attrition between the Scottish government and the UK government... let them both get together."

    He says this stand off and war of words is now over.

    "Let them both work together for the common good," he says, adding he is willing to work with the other parties.

    10:50: Brown Speech Laura Kuenssberg BBC Newsnight

    I'm sure Ed M will be delighted that GBrown making a big bold speech on 1st day of his party's conference.

    In a weird way much of Brown's speech is what Salmond could have said yday but chose different tack.

    Text: 80295 10:49: Get involved

    Dave: I have just listened to Brown's speech. Being English, I can't vote but Brown should be Scotland's first minister. He is like a fine malt whisky. He gets better with age.

    10:48: 'Serve Scotland'

    Adding to that sentiment, Mr Brown says the time is not for Yes Scotland or No Scotland "but to serve Scotland".

    10:47: 'Let us be a nation again'

    Mr Brown says the Yes and No posters from the campaign should be thrown away, adding: "Let us think of ourselves, all of us, simply as Scots. Let us be a nation again."

    10:46: Morning Call

    Andy in Alloa contacted Morning Call on Radio Scotland about Gordon Brown's speech: "This is a man who left us with the worst budget deficit for many a year, for failing to regulate the banks. I don't think he has much of a reputation left.

    "You can see it unravelling before your eyes. It's already happening, David Cameron's not committing to a second vote for 22 March on the Scotland Act, [Ed] Miliband is already backing off and saying "aah, but, but, but".

    "I've a deep sense of sadness that many of my fellow Scots wouldn't want the best for their own country, and I would say shame on them - respectfully - but shame on them."

    10:45: 'Hunger for change'

    Mr Brown says he has seen a "thirst to participate", a "hunger for change" and a "deep desire" to be involved.

    "It's not simply about a desire to vote and participate, it is is about a deep-seated desire for social change in this country... the independence we want is from the deprivation of millions of people and the inequalities they face."

    Email: 10:40: Have your say

    Alan Guthrie: Re Gordon Brown's speech. Why wasn't he so passionate in devolving power to Scotland when he was Prime Minister? He was in a better position to have done something then! Also, where is Alistair Darling?

    10:39: 'Maximum devolution'

    We have a programme for change that might not satisfy everyone but it is the "maximum devolution possible", Mr Brown says.

    He appeals to Yes supporters to look at the proposals objectively and understand what has changed.

    10:37: New powers

    Gordon Brown explains some of the new proposed powers, saying no "bedroom tax" will be imposed on Scotland in future, no poll tax and no enforced privatisation. He then reels through other areas where fresh powers will come including health, environment and transport.

    10:36: Motion Monday

    Andrew Picken, Political Editor of The Sunday Post, tweets: Got the #missingmotion in front of me, too long to tweet but repeats timescale published in 'the vow' the other week. The motion could not be submitted yesterday as Westminster is not sitting but will be on Monday. Signed by 3 party leaders & Brown #indyref

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 10:36: Get involved

    @GaryPanton tweets: Feel bad for Gordon Brown when someone finally breaks the news to him that he's completely powerless. #indyref

    Email: 10:35: Get involved

    Tom: Gordon Brown said during the independence campaign he may have other Scottish political ambitions. I hope he tells us what they might be or was it more bluster?

    10:34: Commons debate

    The House of Commons will debate Scottish devolution on Thursday October 16 to ensure the timetable is delivered, Mr Brown says.

    10:33: Brown: Timetable 'agreed'

    A resolution signed by all three Westminster leaders - and Mr Brown - has been issued today and will be placed in the House of Commons on Monday, he says.

    The resolution is a timetable that says:

    • A "command" paper will be published by the end of October
    • "Agreement will come" in November
    • The draft legislation that will form the Scotland Act in January
    @bbcscotlandnews 10:33: Get involved - Gordon Brown

    dhg: Gordon Brown should run to be Scots' new PM equiv, should he not? Looks perfect fit to me.

    Indy Mel: When Gordon Brown speaks, who exactly believes what he says? He's a backbench MP, who's shown up for 13% of Parliamentary votes.

    Alex Samson: Blimey, why did Gordon Brown never sound or look this passionate when he was in No. 10? #bbc

    10:31: Brown 'divisive' campaign

    Mr Brown says the campaign was "divisive" but "fundamental" issues were being addressed.

    He says campaigners on all sides deserve thanks for their "tenacity and endurance".

    @SMcC_TheDetail 10:30: Steve McCaffery, Editor, The Detail

    Steve McCaffery, Editor of The Detail, tweets: Gordon Brown is on a high here! Maybe too many gags?! #Gordon'sAlive! #GordonBrown

    10:27: 'Eyes on us'

    Mr Brown said he received messages of congratulations from former US President Bill Clinton and former Secretary-General of the United Nations Kofi Annan after Scotland voted No.

    He added: "The eyes of the world are on us".

    10:27: Brown: Unify against odds

    "We are looking for unity against the odds. I am sure we can find ways to unify against the odds."

    He says the promises made on devolution "must be and will be delivered".

    10:25: Brown: Time to unite

    Gordon Brown tells an audience in Fife: "There is a time to fight but there is a time to unite - and this is the time for Scotland to unite and see if it can find common purpose and move from the battle ground to the common ground, to let us seek to find high ground in trying to seek a way forward for the future."

    Gordon Brown
    10:23: Brown on Darling

    He also thanks the leader of the Better Together campaign Alistair Darling, who is applauded.

    10:19: Brown on 'long' campaign

    He says the referendum campaign is the "longest we have seen in modern history" and the "fiercest of arguments".

    10:18: Brown on Salmond

    Gordon Brown thanks Alex Salmond for his years of service as both First Minister and a member of the Scottish Parliament.

    "Although he has been a fierce and formidable opponent I think we owe him a debt of gratitude for all that he has tried to do on behalf of Scotland."

    He asks the audience to applaud Mr Salmond and his wife, which they do.

    10:15: Brown no return to front line

    Gordon Brown says he's not making a comeback to frontline politics - "I'm too old to be a comeback kid.

    "I'm wanting to talk today about the issues of this campaign and how these issues might affect the campaign in future."

    10:12: Brown speech

    Gordon Brown gets a warm welcome as he begins his speech in Fife.

    10:07: Murdoch tweets about Salmond

    Media tycoon Rupert Murdoch has tweeted his support for Alex Salmond following the first minister's resignation announcement.

    Mr Murdoch said: "Alex Salmond's sudden resignation makes him most honest politician in Britain. Actually he seems to have changed country's future."

    The owner of The Sun also offered an opinion on the prime minister. "Cameron's promise of devolution, now for all parts of country, without consulting cabinet, clever politics, but divisions in all parties."

    10:06: Brown speech

    Former PM Gordon Brown is due to speak shortly in Fife. We'll bring you what he has to say as soon as we get it.

    10:00: What next for key players?
    Referendum campaign

    Now that the campaign for Scottish independence is over - what next for the key players? The BBC's Andrew Black and Aiden James find out.

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 09:56: Have your say

    @caltonview tweets: The Gordon Brown interventions were Westminster sleight of hand. Wonder how much attention they will pay to him now? #indyref

    09:50: Role of the media

    Commentator Gerry Hassan on whether Alex Salmond has been treated badly by the media: "Yes and no. All politicians in the modern age across the world that have the stature of Salmond; they attract and they repulse.

    "Yes he has been vilified but he's also shown great stamina, great resilience. I don't think so much a master strategist, but a master of being adaptive. We have to be careful of myths here. The BBC have had a difficult referendum but there isn't really hard evidence of systemic BBC bias."

    Email: 09:47: Get involved

    John Powell: I understand the feeling of disappointment of those who worked so hard for an ideal they believe in but I hope that they will come to see that they really are better off together.

    We live in a dangerous world and unity in a diverse world holds out great strength. Scotland has helped the United Kingdom to be Great Britain. You have done us a favour in that we will have to re-think our politics and structures, as all groupings (including the Church) have to do from time to time.

    09:45: Further powers

    Speaking about more powers coming to Scotland, Henry McLeish said: "My concern is that whilst we have a limited set of powers on offer - positive powers - they don't represent federalism, they don't represent home rule and they don't represent devo max.

    "The SNP's influence [on discussions over more powers] has to be significant, as does the Scottish people and the civic community in Scotland. What we mustn't do is just leave it to Westminster to look at the powers that are on offer and try and cobble something up."

    09:42: Queen's 'plea'

    Amid the turmoil, recrimination and infighting, the Daily Express focuses on a plea for reconciliation from the Queen.

    Daily Express

    In the paper's words, she "urged unity in the process of rebuilding the United Kingdom".



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