Wickerman Festival: Police in drinks appeal to revellers

Wickerman Police said the event had a "great atmosphere" but urged people not to overindulge in alcohol

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Police have urged people attending the Wickerman Festival in southern Scotland this week to consider the amount they drink at the event.

Thousands of people are expected at East Kirkcarswell near Dundrennan on Friday and Saturday to see acts including Del Amitri and Dizzee Rascal.

Insp Amanda Scott said they did not want to spoil anyone's enjoyment.

However, she asked anyone attending not to overindulge with their consumption of alcohol.

"It's a really good festival, it's a really enjoyable festival - I have been working at the Wickerman now for a number of years," she said.

"It is a great atmosphere because it's a family festival and because there are young people and children on the site people do tend to behave themselves.

"But there will always be an element, unfortunately, who overindulge."

She advised the public to try to take alcohol in moderation.

"What we are asking them is don't overindulge - there is free drinking water available, there are plenty of food outlets available," she said.

"Take it steady over the weekend - don't drink to excess so that what could be a really good and memorable night is something that you can't recall the next day."

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Scotland Decides: SCOTLAND VOTES NO

  1. No 2,001,926
  2. Yes 1,617,989
After 32 of 32 counts Results in detail

Referendum Live

    16:06: Video - Gordon Brown speech

    Gordon Brown has said it is time for Scotland to unite, following divisions over the independence referendum.

    The former prime minister was a leading figure in the Better Together campaign.

    Gordon Brown

    Mr Brown also said the promises made ahead of the referendum on change and further devolution would be delivered.

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 15:58: Have your say

    Pete: People, remember that Yes is a social movement that can go a long way towards making the far reaching differences that we all want for Scotland. Turn negativity into positivity by pragmatic activism. Remember you and another 1.6 million people want real change, as do the people who voted No. The No voters were quite right to be nervous of dramatic, sweeping changes, but that does not mean that they do not love this country and want the very best for it.

    15:51: Brown for FM? Kirsty Wark, BBC Newsnight

    What if the calculation Gordon Brown made was that he cd be First Minister in a fully devolved UK?

    15:50: 'Detail scant' on new powers Robin Brant Political Correspondent, BBC News

    One of the interesting things is that there's very little detail on what the UK government has promised to Scotland - and what they might deliver on. The likely areas we'll see more powers devolved on are:

    • Increased ability to raise income tax
    • Ability to spend more than the UK government might want to on health or welfare

    That is not Devo Max - Devo Max is everything except defence and foreign affairs - and it is nothing like that. It is more specific pledges when it comes to raising taxes and how they might be spent.

    15:47: Salmond interview Robbie Gibb Editor, BBC Daily and Sunday Politics Show

    On tomorrow's Sunday Politics, @afneil will talk to Scottish First Minister, Alex Salmond 11am BBC1 #bbcsp

    15:45: Yesbar

    The owner of the Glasgow city centre bar Vespbar on Drury Street that renamed itself Yesbar two weeks before the referendum vote is planning a new venture.

    Yesbar tweeted: Thinking opening another venue, the "45 club" Who's up for it? 45 will be a new venue very close by.

    45 refers to the 45% share of the vote the Yes campaign received in the independence referendum.

    15:38: What next for Cameron?

    Ben Harris-Quinney, of centre-right Conservative think-tank the Bow Group, says David Cameron accepts he made mistakes in the referendum campaign but the Prime Minister still got the result he wanted.

    "The big question is what happens now. Whether David Cameron comes out of this positively or negatively will really rely on the settlement he's willing to entertain for the UK as a whole," he tells the BBC News Channel.

    15:32: 'Moving quickly' Chris Buckler BBC News, Holyrood

    I think there is a coming together of some sorts here. When you speak to the Yes and No camps they both say that they want greater devolved powers to Holyrood and that's what is most important to them.

    I think Gordon Brown was really setting out today something of a reassuring policy here, saying that the timetable has been effectively set out.

    By the end of October they hope to have this "command paper" - this idea of what the proposals should be - and civil servants are already working on that at the moment. There's going to be a debate in the middle of the next month in the House of Commons. And then by January, they're going to have draft laws ready to put into place at some later date.

    All of this is moving very quickly. But this issue of whether or not this should move in tandem with changes in England, Wales and Northern Ireland - that does potentially make things more complicated.

    The Conservatives desperately want this - but Labour says this is just too fast.

    Tweet @bbcscotlandnews 15:28: Have your say

    @faon_blanc tweets: I think we need a group of both Yes and No with peace flags and a good attitude to calm the streets of Glasgow. #indyref #GlasgowRiots

    15:27: 'Not Devo Max'

    Stewart Hosie, SNP member for Dundee East, tells the BBC News Channel that Scotland is being offered a "very limited package of devolution" by Westminster that "goes nowhere near" devo max.

    He is also says leaders had promised a timetable by yesterday - "but couldn't even do that".

    15:20: Aye or Die

    The Simpsons have posted this picture on to their Facebook page.

    Groundskeeper Willie

    The sombre image of Groundskeeper Willie comes after the cartoon character pledged support for Scottish independence in this video, uploaded before the vote.

    15:15: George Square - police statement

    Police have vowed they will find and arrest anyone involved in criminality in Glasgow's George Square last night.

    In a statement, officers said they already arrested six people for public order offences after more than 700 supporters of the union and independence gathered in the square.

    Yes and No supporters in George Square

    Chief Superintendent Andy Bates said: "An investigation into Friday night's disorder has begun and an incident room has been set up at Glasgow City Centre Police Office, staffed by officers dedicated to identifying and arresting anyone involved in the ugly scenes witnessed across the world on television and social media.

    "We have already secured valuable CCTV and other evidence which I am confident will lead to further arrests in the coming days.

    "Don't think that because you were not arrested by last night that you will not be caught. If you were involved in any criminality in the square we will identify you and you will be arrested."

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 15:13: Add to the debate

    Peter Evans, Pembroke: I knew this would happen. Already the Yes camp are demanding a new referendum, a recount now due to vote rigging, or whatever. All that has been achieved in Scotland is a divided nation split down the middle, and a constitutional crisis for the rest of the country.

    And all over an electoral camp consisting of less than 10% of the UK population. While all this is going on, the rest of the world are watching. What now for new investment in Scotland with all this uncertainty?

    14:53: Indyref legacy? Laura Bicker Scotland Correspondent, BBC News

    SNP say 4000 new members in last 36 hours, Scottish Greens say 1200 sign ups and rising - indyref legacy?

    14:51: Flag sales... well... flagging?

    Scotsman reporter Martyn McLaughlin tweeted last week: "One sector of Scotland's economy entirely relaxed at financial consequences of independence - Glasgow flag sellers," along with this image:

    Glasgow George Square

    But the BBC's Sandy Murray found a different story in the city centre today, with Saltires being sold at cut price. Will sales drop off now the referendum campaign is over?

    Flags for sale
    14:42: The morning after the referendum before

    The Associated Press has been taking some sombre pictures around the Scottish capital.

    A tourist poses for a photograph with a statue of Scottish philosopher David Hume as a piper plays in the background in Edinburgh

    They offer a stark contrast to the colourful referendum campaign pictures of recent weeks.

    Piper sculptures are displayed on sale in a shop window in Edinburgh
    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 14:40: Get involved

    Robert Allen: I think it is important to put last night's disturbances in George Square into context. Last night it was 250 people, from both sides, involved in a rammy and doing a very good job of making themselves look stupid. If that is the price we pay for the referendum then let's leave it there and not attach an importance to it that it doesn't merit. Scotland now has more than its fair share of politically engaged free-thinkers and I firmly believe we will reap the benefits of this in years to come, but alas, we have always had our fair share of idiots as well. Let's not allow last nights images to unfairly sour the last few days. They don't deserve the publicity.

    @bbcscotlandnews 14:32: Your Tweets

    Arthur G Lee tweets: GB has no authority to promise anything on behalf of 60M English men and will be voted down. Little man, big boots

    james barrie tweets: We need a Scottish election now. Snp founded on Indy and have lost.

    Disturbiakiss tweets: more members, Sturgeon, landslide victories #indyref in 25 yrs when I am nearing pension age and will vote yes.

    14:29: 'No new powers before election'

    Kevin Maguire, associate editor of the Daily Mirror, believes Scotland won't have the promised new powers any time soon.

    "Gordon Brown would admit himself that he's not in control of events because you had a coalition of the unwilling when David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband made that solemn vow of new powers to the Scottish parliament," he tells the BBC News Channel.

    "They did that in a very panicked response because they thought the No side was going to lose the referendum campaign but they didn't really sketch out the details of what those powers would be. I'm sure the three leaders all have a slightly different idea of what they might be.

    "I think Scotland will get new powers but I can't really see it this side of a general election."

    14:27: More reaction to Brown

    D McGee: Having just heard Gordon Brown speaking in Dunfermline this morning, I can't believe that it is the same man who was a moderate chancellor and a lacklustre Prime Minister, could speak with such great common sense and so passionately about reconciliation. Without his intervention the Yes campaign could well have won and left the UK.

    Bert in Fife: Gordon Brown is milking the moment, when all the promises he made during the referendum fall about his ears. I just hope he has the bottle to openly admit he was "conned" as were many of the Scottish electorate.

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 14:25: Reaction to Gordon Brown's speech

    Craig, Aberdeenshire: For all the fawning over Brown's performance, all I saw was Richard Nixon. The pacing, the hang-mouth, the shaking of the head and the doom and gloom.

    Johan: The really big winner from the independence campaigns seems to be Gordon Brown. Given his so obvious passion for Scotland, his excellent knowledge of Westminster and the way it works, and his links to other global leaders, would he make an outstanding First Minister in Scotland?

    14:24: People's panel

    Almost a year ago, the BBC gathered together a group of voters from across Scotland.

    Ballot paper

    Some planned to vote Yes, others No, and a group of 10 remained undecided.

    We caught up with them after they voted to find out which box they put their 'X' in.

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 14:17: Views from Wales

    Lisa: Regarding the Scottish referendum: Would you please stop concentrating on Scotland and English devolution? The two very big losers in this conversation are Northern Ireland and the biggest consequence is that of further cuts to Wales. Underfunded by £300m a year in the most deprived country in the union. If all eyes are on Edinburgh in Westminster they simply cannot ignore Northern Ireland and Wales.

    Clive: As a passionate Welshman, and somebody who is proud to call himself British, I applaud Gordon Brown's speech. Globalisation has made a significant change not only in Scotland, but across the traditional heartlands of the nation. Really pleased Scotland has decided to remain part of the union, we are stronger together but there has to be change in terms of social and economic justice across the whole nation.

    14:11: Petition calls for re-vote

    There is also a petition with over 71,000 signatures on the change.org website demanding a "re-vote of the Scottish Referendum, counted by impartial international parties".

    14:05: West Lothian Question

    Can the West Lothian question be answered? Read what the problem is and what each party is saying about the issue.

    13:56: Votes rigged?

    Politician and Yes campaigner Jim Sillars has called for an investigation into potential vote rigging in the Scottish independence referendum.

    Mr Sillars tweeted: This vote rigging video is disturbing, enquiry required

    13:44: Daily Telegraph

    Daily Telegraph reporter Ben Riley-Smith has tweeted: Alex Salmond took SNP from electoral irrelevance to brink of winning independence. One of modern Britain's most successful party leaders?

    Yesterday, the Daily Telegraph published a video which showed Mr Riley-Smith being refused entry to the press conference where Mr Salmond resigned.

    13:26: Fancy a hug?

    A caring Scot has decided to set up a Facebook event encouraging people to hug someone who voted differently to them.

    The organiser Angela Brin pleads: "Let's take back our beautiful country and show the world that we are better than the violent behaviour shown by the few that are causing trouble for the sake of it.

    Facebook hug pic

    "For now, please hug someone that voted differently from you, post a photo of you together and let's take #TeamScotland forward in the spirit of peace and love.

    "Hugs can heal. Are you with me?"

    Angela hopes people take part in the act on 25 September.

    13:20: History of Alex Salmond

    In November, First Minister Alex Salmond's second 10-year spell in charge of the Scottish National Party will come to an end.

    Alex Salmond

    You can read Mr Salmond's story here.

    @NicolaSturgeon 13:19: Nicola Sturgeon, Deputy First Minister

    Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon tweets: More than 4000 people have joined @theSNP in last 36 hours. Many from Labour, many new to politics.

    @iainmacwhirter 13:16: Iain Macwhirter, political commentator, Herald and Sunday Herald

    Iain Macwhirter, political commentator, Herald and Sunday Herald, tweets: Must not allow Brown's lock in to be a lock out. All of Scottish civil society needs to be involved in this legislation. Not just Labour.

    13:16: From glorious failure to finest hour

    Trainspotting author Irvine Welsh, writing in the Guardian newspaper, say the Scots have reinvented the idea of democracy.

    "This country, when it was ever known on the global stage under the union, was associated with tragedy, in terrible events like Lockerbie and Dunblane; it's now synonymous with real people power," he writes.

    "Forget Bannockburn or the Scottish Enlightenment, the Scots have just reinvented and re-established the idea of true democracy. This - one more - glorious failure might also, paradoxically, be their finest hour."

    Text: 80295 13:07: Get involved

    BBC News website reader: I voted No at the Scottish referendum. Listening to what I am now hearing post the 55/45 split. If the vote was today I would vote Yes. I listened and trusted the main UK leaders. This would appear to be a poor choice on my part.

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 13:05:

    David: As a Scot living in the North West of England I would have supported the No campaign, if I'd had a vote. But I'm deeply grateful to the Yes vote for the sheer scale of the Yes vote.

    The repercussions of that will be felt south of the border in that the Westminster status quo cannot now continue. You've done us a huge favour down here by upsetting the cosy Westminster approach to regional politics.

    You might not have got what you wanted - but you've done a lot of good in helping to ensure that the whole political scene, north and south of the border must and will change.

    Come back in 5 years and there will be a decisive Yes majority

    13:03: Sturgeon 'would want election'

    Earlier, former SNP leader Gordon Wilson tipped Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon to take over from Alex Salmond.

    However, he doesn't think the job will be given to her on a plate.

    Mr Wilson said: "I think she herself may want to have an election, rather than being crowned.

    "The outcome of that, I'm certain, is not in doubt. But most leaders, including myself and also Alex Salmond, prefer to be one amongst candidates so that you then get a vote from the Scottish National Party delegates which in a sense confers legitimacy."

    Tweet @bbcscotlandnews 13:02: Get involved

    Nigel Nobes: Across politics there's a widely held belief that Gordon Brown saved the day with brilliant speeches. He's still doing it. Make him PM again!

    Ben Hart: People wanting Gordon Brown back after a good speech or two need to remember the Nick Clegg phenomenon 4 years ago.

    Hayley Röhrich Ford: Superb speech from Gordon Brown this morning in Fife. Very engaging.

    Podders: The same thing is happening to Gordon Brown as happened to John Major - they're now treated like wise elder statesmen, They are failures.

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 13:00: Send us your views

    Ted Wade: I worry that reviewing the constitution and delivering what was promised for Scotland is going to become a political football at Westminster. Already, David Cameron is wanting to get everything done and dusted by March 2015 and put into place by May 2015 before the General Election. The view is that this is far too quick for a well thought out, and agreed, settlement. The last thing which is needed are the main political parties disagreeing over what will be a major constitutional change. Unless all parties get together and look at this from an overall view point it will be another dogs' breakfast piece of legislation.

    12:53: Local reaction

    Aberdeen's Press & Journal has sought reaction to First Minister Alex Salmond's resignation from Strichen - the village he calls home and casted his referendum vote in.

    Alex Salmond

    "He must be exhausted," says one villager.

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 12:51: Get involved

    Andrew: Very rarely in politics does a negative message triumph over a positive message, but that is exactly what has happened in the Scottish independence referendum. The Yes campaign had the positive, upbeat message of growth, prosperity, independence and autonomy; the embodiment of the "We can do it" attitude almost. But the SNP and Alex Salmond failed to deliver this message appropriately and failed to give assurances that in fact an independent Scotland could stand on its own two feet. In the end it was the negative message of the No campaign, with all of its criticisms, warnings and negativity towards independence which won the day. Alex Salmond has now quite rightfully chosen to step down from his position as First Minister and leader of the SNP because he has failed to deliver on Scottish independence, something that should have been a formality if he had chosen the correct approach and done the correct legacy planning for.

    12:46: Looking back

    If you need a reminder on how exactly we got to the stage of holding a referendum on Scottish independence, then the radio programme Yes and No: Voices from the Campaign looks back at the key moments leading up to Thursday's vote and is available on BBC iPlayer.

    Yes/No banners

    The programme includes highlights from the referendum results programme and reaction from both sides.

    12:43: Scotland 'stunned'
    The Courier

    The Courier runs with the headline "Salmond steps down", saying Scotland was stunned by the move.

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 12:42: Add to the debate

    Janet Draper: I'm concerned that we will continue to hear people saying that the job of the SNP is to hold Westminster to account and to make sure the promises are kept....

    The job of the Scottish government now is to achieve the best arrangements for all the people of Scotland in the complex circumstances with which Scotland is faced. This is not a time for party politics... but for a government behaving like a government of all Scots.

    12:40: Nick Eardley BBC News

    George Square is deserted this morning, just hours after ugly scenes saw police arrest six people when loyalist protesters turned up at a place that had become the centre of sporadic Yes campaign support in Glasgow.

    There is almost no indication of last night's confrontation, with the exception of steel fencing surrounding the various monuments in the square.

    George Square

    A lifeless Saltire hangs from a ledge on the Sir Walter Scott plinth in the middle and a statue of Robert Burns has been decorated with a tartan hat and scarf, but otherwise there is little to see.

    One couple told me they were horrified by the scenes they saw on television from the square last night. But today, save for a few tourists, there's not much to see.

    12:35: 'Nats all folks'

    The Scottish Sun splashes with a mocked up Looney Tunes image, with the headline "Nats all folks".

    The paper says Mr Salmond was "close to tears" during the announcement, which came after a "crushing referendum defeat".

    The Scottish Sun

    The paper, in its editorial, describes the first minister as "true colossus". And in a personal tribute, Ms Sturgeon says the "personal debt of gratitude" she owes Mr Salmond "is immeasurable".

    12:26: Analysis: English cannot be 'fobbed off' Chris Mason Political correspondent, BBC News

    Constitutional change very, very rarely happens quickly - and yet there was that promise before the referendum that it would in the case of Scotland.

    Both the Conservatives and Labour have said that they will honour that promise but here is the sticking point: Can the two issues of England and Scotland be unpicked?

    Labour is insisting that the two should be unpicked, that devolution for England cannot be rushed and that there has to be conversation in the rest of the UK, just as there's been a conversation in Scotland.

    But the Conservatives say the two have to remain together - that the English cannot be fobbed off.

    This will not be easy to resolve.

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 12:25: Thoughts of readers

    Andy Dorward: The politics of promising what you can never deliver is constantly rife within all the current UK parties, no matter who gives the speech.

    I voted on the one simple question asked on the ballot paper.. should Scotland be independent from the rest of the UK? This referendum has caused some divisions among the average people of the UK I feel will never heal in the future.

    The politicians and government of the UK should now turn all their efforts to getting this country back on its feet and prospering before they look to other countries' welfare.

    12:23: More powers for cities

    The Labour Mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson, has been speaking to the BBC and says English cities should be given more powers.

    He said: "It's absolutely right that we can decide, with the money raised in our city, how we spend that money and how we determine what is in our best interests.

    "Whether it be on welfare, whether it be on employment and training and skills, whether it be on education and health. All of those things we know better than people in Whitehall, who have no connection to Liverpool at all."

    12:22: Britain changing

    Earlier, on Radio Scotland's Morning Call, journalist Simon Pia said: "[David] Cameron has woken up and smelt the haggis, or whatever you want to call it. He realises something has changed fundamentality in Britain and people in England, and Wales and Northern Ireland have recognised that too."

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 12:21: Get involved

    @OllyDeed tweets: And Gordon Brown's performance in the last two weeks has been exceptional. Sort of performance that eluded him as Prime Minister #indyref

    12:19: 'Positive cynicism'

    Women for Independence's Jeane Freeman has called for Scots to show "positive cynicism" over the offer of new powers that's on the table.

    Ms Freeman said: "We have to be cynical a bit about that. The points about previous track records and the basis on which you trust people is well made - but we still need to say let's give them the opportunity to prove that they do mean what they have said and they will deliver this. But not from the sidelines."

    12:16: Church of Scotland's message

    The Moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland will ask Scots to put their differences aside and work together to redefine Scotland's place within the UK now that the referendum is over.

    The Rt Rev John Chalmers will speak before Scotland's political leaders at St Giles' Cathedral in Edinburgh on Sunday morning.

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 12:15: Add to the debate

    Jim Christie: I have this nagging feeling that more devolved power for Scotland will not happen within the timetable set out by Mr Brown. I foresee many MPs watering down the proposals or simply voting against the same. In reality, do the Westminster parties actually want to lose power not just to Scotland but to other parts of the UK?

    12:14: 'Dream will never die'

    The Herald runs with a quote from Mr Salmond's speech, in which he said "the dream shall never die" - referring to independence - on its front page.


    The paper describes the announcement as "dramatic" and speculates that local government minister Derek Mackay and Humza Yousaf, the minister for external affairs, may also stand for the leadership.

    Columnist Iain Macwhirther writes of the resignation that Mr Salmond "was astute enough to realise that his time had finally come".

    12:12: 'Beaten but unbowed'

    The Daily Record, on its front page, describes Mr Salmond as "beaten but unbowed", running with a picture of the First Minister with his wife Moira after they left his official home in Edinburgh, Bute House.

    Daily Record

    The paper's political editor David Clegg says Mr Salmond "took the cause of Scottish nationalism to unimaginable victories" before Friday's "agonising defeat".

    12:09: Sturgeon strikes back? Douglas Fraser Business and economy editor, Scotland

    How long til #indyref 2 - 'Sturgeon Strikes Back'? There are obstacles, but 1.6m 'yes' voters won't go away. My blog.

    12:08: Bishops write to Salmond

    Archbishop Philip Tartaglia, The President of the Bishops' Conference of Scotland, has sent a letter to First Minister Alex Salmond following his resignation announcement.

    Archbishop Tartaglia wrote: "On behalf of the Bishops Conference of Scotland, I want to acknowledge your long and outstanding career in politics, and your distinguished service as First Minister of Scotland. With good reason, you have been described as one of the most able and influential political leaders that Scotland and the United Kingdom has ever produced.

    Pope in Scotland visit

    "The Bishops are especially grateful for your recognition of the important place of religion and faith in Scotland, for your support of Catholic education as making its own distinctive contribution to the good of Scotland as a whole, and for your sensitivity to the issues around religious freedom which are emerging in our country as they are elsewhere.

    "And lastly, we remain grateful for the support and assistance given by your government before and during the visit of Pope Benedict XVI to Scotland in 2010."

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 12:00: Your emails

    Allan Cathal: Change is coming to the UK. Wales and Northern Ireland are going to fight for the same conditions as Scotland has obtained. The English regions and the big cities are looking for devolution.

    There is a call for an English Parliament with devolved powers and a call for Scottish Labour MPs not to be allowed to vote on English issues. All in all an interesting time coming in next months and years. But one thing is certain the UK will never be the same again.

    12:00: Scottish papers

    Mr Salmond's resignation is also dominating the front pages of the Scottish press.

    The Scotsman says he led his party "from a minority movement into an election-winning political machine".


    The newspaper says there is "little doubt" Mr Salmond's deputy Nicola Sturgeon is favourite to succeed him as leader.

    David Torrance, analysing the impact of Mr Salmond on Scottish politics, says he is "perhaps the most significant politician to emerge from Scotland in the past three decades".

    11:59: Paper review

    Outside of Scotland, today's Sun and Star opt for other stories on the front page with a Strictly Come Dancing tale for The Sun and the Daily Star choosing to splash a mum attacked by spiders.

    However, they both find a small space on their front pages for short stories on Alex Salmond's resignation.

    11:56: Reaction to Brown

    Jeane Freeman of Women for Independence spoke to Kaye Adams on Morning Call about Gordon Brown's speech.

    She said: "I thought the tone of his speech was exactly the right tone. In that it was not triumphalist in any way, it was magnanimous, and I thought he made a number of perceptive points in terms of understanding why a lot of people had voted for independence.

    "That it was about what we believed independence could offer us the opportunity to do in terms of poverty, social justice, a fairer re-distribution of the wealth of Scotland.

    "But the thing in all of this that's struck me since the early hours of Friday morning - at no point in that timetable am I seeing a reference to our Scottish parliament, our Scottish government. I hope civil servants are involved in this drafting, because it really won't work to take what we have had which is a two-year long detailed, thorough conversation and debate, parcel it up and take it down to Westminster and say "okay, thanks we'll deal with it now."

    11:51: McKay: Big job

    Sir William added: "If anybody attempted to quite fundamentally alter the procedure of the House of Commons at the same time as altering the constitution, then it's a very, very big job indeed."

    11:49: West Lothian Question

    Sir William McKay, who chaired a panel of experts looking at issues around the West Lothian question, has been speaking to the BBC.

    He says on the proposed pace of constitutional change, the immediate problem is difficult "but probably solvable with goodwill".

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 11:46: Get involved

    Marcus Tait: I sincerely hope for the sake of everyone in this country that the current administration don't think they can drag their heels on this. I felt strongly that we Scots should stand together with the rest of the UK who also feel poorly represented by the current political system.

    If they continue to show signs of backing out, I worry we shall see serious social unrest right across the country not just in Scotland. Westminster needs a shake up to bring it up to speed with where the world is today.

    11:43: Should Salmond have gone earlier?

    Speaking on Morning Call on Radio Scotland earlier, Scott from West Lothian believes Alex Salmond could have helped to win a Yes vote by resigning last week.

    He said: "My opinion is a wee bit controversial in that I think if Alex Salmond decided to leave a week before the vote, and said that he would no longer be part of the Yes Scotland movement going forward, that would've swung as many No voters back to Yes because the amount of people that say 'I'm not voting for Yes because I'm not voting for Alex Salmond'."

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 11:40: Have your say

    Craig: I believe that once all constitutional changes have been made, history will regard Alex Salmond as having been one of the most influential figures in British (not only Scottish) political history. The most formidable debater of his generation.

    Text: 80295 11:39: Get involved

    Mike: The reason for the level of engagement in Scotland is simple. It was not only the magnitude of the issue but the plain fact that every vote counted. A No vote in Glasgow went onto the pile and not into the bin. It wasn't a 28-4 victory for No, it was 2 million - 1.6 million. First past the post means that only the winner's votes don't end up in the bin.

    @KennyFarq 11:38: Kenny Farquharson, Deputy Editor of The Scotsman & Scotland on Sunday

    Kenny Farquharson, Deputy Editor of The Scotsman, went on Twitter earlier to give some analysis on where Yes supporters go from here.

    He said: "The Yes movement has yet to grasp that, even in defeat, it has huge power to shape the new Scotland. Can legitimately push for next phase of home rule to be much more radical that currently envisaged. But it has to get involved, and not just sit back and wish for the Westminster process to fail.

    Those 1.6m votes can be used to transform the home rule debate and move Scotland further forward than would otherwise have been the case. Have a Plan B. Be the change, in the new world you have to live in. Put that positivity to use."

    11:32: SNP faces 'big job'

    Stephen Gethins, former adviser to Alex Salmond, told the BBC News Channel he thinks the role of the SNP is now more important than ever.

    The SNP has a "big job" on its hands to make sure the leaders of the three Westminster parties keep their pledge to devolve further powers to Scotland, he says.

    11:31: Sillars praises Salmond Laura Bicker Scotland Correspondent, BBC News

    Jim Sillars on Alex Salmond's resignation - "I was sorry he did so. Alex Salmond is a nationalist hero and he will be long remembered as such when those who opposed him are long forgotten for the little people they are. What Scotland owes to Alex will long be remembered."

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 11:31: Have your say

    Steve Mansfield: I agree strongly with Mr Powell (09:47). Most of the UK, and particularly its politicians, seem to have sleepwalked into the referendum and put the Union at risk. Its break up seemed inconceivable to a lot of people in England. September 18 was a night of great tension and worry. he Scottish people saved the Union and it is time to ensure that the promises made to them are kept.

    11:29: Journalist's job

    Journalist David Torrance has his take on how the media has treated First Minister Alex Salmond. He said: "What intrigues me from previous callers is that he does seem to be subject to different rules from other politicians.

    "The feeling that somehow journalists have taken an unpleasant tone with him...that's a journalist's job - to be disrespectful.

    "If you want to compare and contrast with how a politician has been treated, just think back to when Gordon Brown was Prime Minister for three years and the absolute pasting he got day after day in the press, particularly in London. I don't remember people leaping to his defence."

    11:27: Young voters

    Young Scots aged 16 and 17 were allowed to vote for the first time in UK history in the referendum and it's thought that around 100,000 of them made their mark, making up about 3% of everyone who voted.

    BBC Breakfast's Naga Munchetty was joined by two voters who explained how they voted and why.


    Charlotte Jackson said she voted No because she felt it was better to remain in the UK "for stability and security". "Also my family is English so it was kind of from the heart - I felt like I didn't want to separate from my family."

    Sean Warrington says "decisions for Scotland are best made in Scotland". He believes it is important young people voted as "you can't complain about the outcome unless you voted", adding that getting young people to vote from the age of 16 might make them more likely to vote later in life.

    11:23: Caller confusion

    Also on the programme, John in Edinburgh mixed presenter Kaye Adams up with former BBC presenter and "Yes" supporter Lesley Riddoch.

    He said: "You yourself Lesley were very biased in your commentary on TV through the night, and that was very notable to me."

    Kaye quickly pointed out that she was not Lesley Riddoch, to which John replied "having made a fool of myself, thanks very much for taking my call."

    11:21: No lover of Salmond

    Earlier today, John from Glasgow contacted Morning Call.

    He said: "As far as I'm concerned, I'm glad the man's away. As soon as he came on television, I couldn't wait to get my remote and switch it. I think he was presumptuous, self-centred, arrogant, and as far as I'm concerned - thank God he's away."

    11:18: 'Ballroom blitzed'

    The Daily Mirror has a slightly more off-kilter take on the referendum result.

    It ponders what the future holds for Judy Murray in Strictly Come Dancing after her tennis champion son Andy's endorsement of independence. The paper says this has "blitzed" her chances of surviving the first public vote on the BBC One show.

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 11:17: Have your say

    @LucyB_Ry tweets: If Devo Max had been on the ballot paper in the first place, we could have avoided all of this. #indyref

    11:15: The Motion

    Here is the text of the motion that will be put before the UK Parliament by the three Better Together parties:

    "That this House welcomes the result of the Scottish independence referendum and the decision of the people of Scotland to remain part of the United Kingdom; recognises that people across Scotland voted‎ for a Union based on the pooling and sharing of resources and for the‎ continuation of devolution inside the United Kingdom; notes the statement by the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition regarding the guarantee of and timetable for further devolution to Scotland; calls on the Government to lay before Parliament a Command Paper including the proposals of all three UK political parties by 30th October and to consult widely with the Scottish people, civic Scotland and the Scottish Parliament on these proposals; further calls on the Government to publish heads of agreement by the end of November and draft clauses for the new Scotland Bill by the end of January 2015."

    11:14: Ed Miliband speech

    On the eve of the final Labour conference before the 2015 UK general election, Ed Miliband closes his speech by declaring: "Britain needs a new plan for you and your family, Britain needs a new government. We're going to make it happen and we're going to show how this week."

    11:13: Brown: Build better Scotland together

    Mr Brown ends his hour-long address to a standing ovation, following these final words: "I don't want to go on feeling that we are going to weep for a beloved but divided country. I don't want the Great in Great Britain to look shakey... I don't want a United Kingdom united in name only... Let's build a better Scotland together."

    11:11: Brown: New chapter

    Gordon Brown ends his speech by saying: "I hope that we can move beyond the old. That we can start a new chapter now.

    "I hope that the government of Scotland and the UK government will come together - not just to deliver the devolution we've been promised but to deal with basic social and economic challenges that we can only do best if we do them together and not apart."

    @JohnRentoul 11:11: John Rentoul, Independent on Sunday

    John Rentoul, from the Independent on Sunday tweets: Gordon Brown has just called it "the websphere". I am going to use that every day.

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 11:09: Have your say

    @bronaghHope tweets: Sorry #Gordon Brown but my facebook and twitter feed was full of people from Belfast, Dublin, London, Canada, Australia, USA to vote #YesHave

    11:04: Miliband pledge

    Ed Miliband also claims: "This country doesn't work for most working people and we the Labour party are going to change it".

    10:59: Brown: United family

    "What people are trying to create is a myth - that there is such a distance between Scottish people and the English - or Scottish people and Welsh ad northern Irish people. That the differences are irreconcilable and can never be bridged."

    He goes on to say: "Don't let us believe there are irreconcilable differences... Let us be part of one united family."

    10:57: Ed Miliband speech

    Speaking in Manchester on the eve of the Labour Party conference, Labour leader Ed Miliband says "the last few months have been about keeping our country together" and that "the next eight months are about how we change our country together".

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews Whay do you think?

    @lornanrobert tweets: The union is breaking #gordon brown we wanted indy for what we wanted, not what you said we wanted. It will break!

    10:54: 'Unite us all'

    The Daily Telegraph illustrates the Queen's "pledge" with a striking image of the monarch at her Balmoral estate in the Highlands - where she was yesterday when the verdict was announced.


    The paper says the No vote was greeted "not with delirium" but with "relief" across much of the UK and a "deep foreboding on what the future holds".

    10:52: Brown plea

    Speaking about the relationship between the Scottish and UK governments, Mr Brown says: "Instead of this stand off - instead of them talking amongst themselves and not to each other, instead of this war of attrition between the Scottish government and the UK government... let them both get together."

    He says this stand off and war of words is now over.

    "Let them both work together for the common good," he says, adding he is willing to work with the other parties.

    10:50: Brown Speech Laura Kuenssberg BBC Newsnight

    I'm sure Ed M will be delighted that GBrown making a big bold speech on 1st day of his party's conference.

    In a weird way much of Brown's speech is what Salmond could have said yday but chose different tack.

    Text: 80295 10:49: Get involved

    Dave: I have just listened to Brown's speech. Being English, I can't vote but Brown should be Scotland's first minister. He is like a fine malt whisky. He gets better with age.

    10:48: 'Serve Scotland'

    Adding to that sentiment, Mr Brown says the time is not for Yes Scotland or No Scotland "but to serve Scotland".

    10:47: 'Let us be a nation again'

    Mr Brown says the Yes and No posters from the campaign should be thrown away, adding: "Let us think of ourselves, all of us, simply as Scots. Let us be a nation again."

    10:46: Morning Call

    Andy in Alloa contacted Morning Call on Radio Scotland about Gordon Brown's speech: "This is a man who left us with the worst budget deficit for many a year, for failing to regulate the banks. I don't think he has much of a reputation left.

    "You can see it unravelling before your eyes. It's already happening, David Cameron's not committing to a second vote for 22 March on the Scotland Act, [Ed] Miliband is already backing off and saying "aah, but, but, but".

    "I've a deep sense of sadness that many of my fellow Scots wouldn't want the best for their own country, and I would say shame on them - respectfully - but shame on them."

    10:45: 'Hunger for change'

    Mr Brown says he has seen a "thirst to participate", a "hunger for change" and a "deep desire" to be involved.

    "It's not simply about a desire to vote and participate, it is is about a deep-seated desire for social change in this country... the independence we want is from the deprivation of millions of people and the inequalities they face."

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 10:40: Have your say

    Alan Guthrie: Re Gordon Brown's speech. Why wasn't he so passionate in devolving power to Scotland when he was Prime Minister? He was in a better position to have done something then! Also, where is Alistair Darling?

    10:39: 'Maximum devolution'

    We have a programme for change that might not satisfy everyone but it is the "maximum devolution possible", Mr Brown says.

    He appeals to Yes supporters to look at the proposals objectively and understand what has changed.

    10:37: New powers

    Gordon Brown explains some of the new proposed powers, saying no "bedroom tax" will be imposed on Scotland in future, no poll tax and no enforced privatisation. He then reels through other areas where fresh powers will come including health, environment and transport.

    10:36: Motion Monday

    Andrew Picken, Political Editor of The Sunday Post, tweets: Got the #missingmotion in front of me, too long to tweet but repeats timescale published in 'the vow' the other week. The motion could not be submitted yesterday as Westminster is not sitting but will be on Monday. Signed by 3 party leaders & Brown #indyref

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 10:36: Get involved

    @GaryPanton tweets: Feel bad for Gordon Brown when someone finally breaks the news to him that he's completely powerless. #indyref

    Email: haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk 10:35: Get involved

    Tom: Gordon Brown said during the independence campaign he may have other Scottish political ambitions. I hope he tells us what they might be or was it more bluster?



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