Derek Grant jailed for killing son's mugger in Greenock

Patrick Bradley Patrick Bradley was fatally stabbed by the father of his robbery victim

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A man who admitted killing a knife-wielding robber who took his son's iPhone has been jailed for six years.

Derek Grant, 38, confronted Patrick Bradley after the 29-year-old had held up his son Jordan in Greenock on 30 August last year.

During the confrontation, Bradley stabbed Grant in the eye, after which Grant then fatally stabbed him.

Grant was originally charged with murder but pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of culpable homicide.

At the High Court in Livingston judge Lord Boyd noted that Bradley "was a man of violence" and had "10 convictions for assault" prior to his death.

Criminal record

He told Grant: "But you, of course you did not know that. What you did know was that earlier that night Patrick Bradley had robbed your son of his mobile phone at knifepoint.

"Had he been caught it seems likely given his record that he would have been prosecuted in this court, the High Court, and on conviction would have received a High Court sentence.

"As it happens you had the means to bring him to justice because the phone had been easily located by the Find My iPhone app."

The judge added: "All you needed to do was to phone the police and give them the information. However, you armed yourself with a knife and, along with your three sons, went looking for him."

The judge said Grant's lawyer had earlier described that decision as an error of judgment.

But he told the accused: "I can't accept that as a valid description. It's clear you were prepared to be met with violence - or at least the threat of violence - and went armed to meet it."

Lord Boyd acknowledged that Grant had lost an eye as a result of being stabbed and now had a lifelong disability, which had effectively ended his career as a delivery driver.

He described Grant's conviction as a "tragedy" for his family and told him the proud educational record of his sons was a credit to him.

The judge added: "I take into account you will have to live with the physical consequences of that event for the rest of your life and I have reduced the sentence accordingly.

Phone trace

"Nevertheless, the fact is you took the law into your own hands and went looking for a man you knew was armed with a knife armed with a weapon of your own."

A previous hearing at the High Court in Glasgow heard how Jordan Grant had been returning to his home in Greenock when he was confronted by Bradley, who had a significant record for violence.

He ordered the politics student to hand over his iPhone, which he did.

The McDonald's worker went home and told his father who used a mobile app to trace the stolen phone to a nearby location.

Grant then left his home with Jordan and his two younger sons, Lee, 17, and 16 year-old Jamie.

They spotted Bradley - who was not known to them - and Grant ordered he hand back the stolen phone.

Bradley instead lashed out at Grant and stabbed him in the eye before Grant then repeatedly struck out at him with a knife he had taken from home.

Bradley suffered a cardiac arrest and died following the incident. Grant was left blinded in one eye.

Grant's three sons also faced murder charges but their not guilty pleas were accepted.

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Scotland Decides: SCOTLAND VOTES NO

  1. No 2,001,926
  2. Yes 1,617,989
After 32 of 32 counts Results in detail

Referendum Live

    18:32: More from George Square

    Here's another picture of the events at George Square.

    18:31: George Square protest

    This is the scene in Glasgow's George Square right now.

    Crowds of "No" supporters and "Yes" supporters are being kept apart by police.

    george square
    18:30: 'Changed political landscape'

    Mr Swinney said Alex Salmond had changed the political landscape.

    He added: "The challenge for the next SNP leader and first minister will be to put the Westminster parties under pressure to deliver against the commitments that they made during the referendum campaign."

    18:26: Swinney's 'deep appreciation'

    John Swinney said he wanted to make clear his "deep and profound appreciation" for what Alex Salmond did to get the party and the Yes movement to "this point".

    Mr Swinney said: "He took us into government in 2007 when all the pundits said we couldn't do it. He won a majority in 2011 when absolutely every commentator said it was an impossibility and then he delivered an independence referendum which commanded 1.6 million votes for independence yesterday.

    "Alex has earned the right to decide at what moment he wanted to stand down."

    18:23: Rennie on Salmond

    The Sunday Herald's Scottish Political Editor Tom Gordon: Pretty brutal farewell statement from @willie_rennie on Salmond: "He has exhausted his political purpose."

    18:22: Salmond's 'astonishing gains'

    Finance Secretary John Swinney told BBC Scotland that Alex Salmond had delivered "astonishing gains" for the SNP and "astonishing improvements" for Scotland.

    Mr Swinney, who was leader of the SNP before Mr Salmond, said: "I think that culminated in creating the opportunity for the people of Scotland to have the most engaged democratic decision we could have had about our future in the referendum yesterday, in which 85% of the public that were eligible to vote, participated. That was a great triumph for democracy and it was brought about by Alex Salmond."

    18:15: Firm favourite

    Bookmakers have already priced Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon as the odds-on favourite to become the next SNP leader.

    Nicola Sturgeon

    Ladbrokes have Ms Sturgeon at 1/4, with Humza Yousaf next in line at 8/1. Alex Neil, Derek Mackay and Mike Russell follow at 10/1, with John Swinney priced at 16/1.

    William Hill is also offering odds - they price Ms Sturgeon at 1/3 and Mr Yousaf at 6/1.

    18:14: STUC on Salmond

    Scottish Trades Union Congress (STUC) General Secretary Grahame Smith said: "Alex Salmond has been a dominant figure in Scottish politics for over two decades.

    "Whatever you think of his politics you cannot deny his political achievements. The longest serving first minister; the first party leader to secure a Scottish Parliament majority; delivering a referendum on independence and increasing popular support for it.

    "His disappointment in not seeing the job through must be immense and, although a surprise to me, it is perhaps the right time for him to step aside as we now look to enhance Scottish devolution."

    18:08: More from The Queen

    The Queen's statement from Balmoral concludes:

    "Now, as we move forward, we should remember that despite the range of views that have been expressed, we have in common an enduring love of Scotland, which is one of the things that helps to unite us all.

    "Knowing the people of Scotland as I do, I have no doubt that Scots, like others throughout the United Kingdom, are able to express strongly-held opinions before coming together again in a spirit of mutual respect and support, to work constructively for the future of Scotland and indeed all parts of this country.

    "My family and I will do all we can to help and support you in this important task."

    18:06: Queen statement

    The Queen has issued a statement on the outcome of the referendum.

    It says: "After many months of discussion, debate, and careful thought, we now know the outcome of the referendum, and it is a result that all of us throughout the United Kingdom will respect," it reads.

    "For many in Scotland and elsewhere today, there will be strong feelings and contrasting emotions - among family, friends and neighbours. That, of course, is the nature of the robust democratic tradition we enjoy in this country.

    "But I have no doubt that these emotions will be tempered by an understanding of the feelings of others."

    18:04: Queen statement

    The Queen said Scotland's vote to stay part of the UK was "a result that all of us throughout the United Kingdom will respect".

    17:59: Harvie: Salmond changed political landscape

    Scottish Green Party co-convener Patrick Harvie said: "It's no secret that the Scottish Green Party and I haven't always agreed with Alex Salmond about a range of policy issues, but nobody in Scottish politics can doubt his commitment to the cause of Scottish independence, or the impact he has had, not only within Scotland, but also on a movement which still has the potential to reshape politics throughout these islands.

    "The first minister is 100% right to say that the aftermath of the independence referendum remains redolent with possibility, and that the incredible public engagement in our political process means that power must now lie with the public will, not with political parties in Westminster or Holyrood.

    "Despite our differences on a range of issues, I want to pay tribute to Alex Salmond for the role he has played in changing our political landscape. The future of Scottish, and of UK politics, could be entering a more open and creative period than we have known for many years.

    "If nothing else, Alex Salmond has been central to bringing us to that moment."

    17:51: @HumzaYousaf

    Humza Yousaf SNP Member of the Scottish Parliament for Glasgow tweets: @AlexSalmond's legacy not only his own political achievements but thousands like me who've been inspired by him to become politically active

    17:48: 'Outstanding parliamentarian' Andrew Black Political reporter, BBC Scotland

    Scottish Parliament Presiding Officer Tricia Marwick, who was elected as an SNP MSP before quitting the party to take up the politically-neutral Holyrood role, commented on Mr Salmond's decision to step down as first minister.

    She said: "Members from across the chamber will recognise the first minister as an outstanding parliamentarian and will join me in recognition of his substantial achievements and public service as an MP, MSP and as Scotland's longest-serving first minister.

    "He will bow out following the most remarkable national debate and democratic renewal of our nation."

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 17:47: Get involved

    @HughWallace74 tweets: @AlexSalmond I am sad to see you go. This was never all about you but at the same time, without you we would have been nowhere. Thank you.

    Email: 17:45: Get involved

    Jim Daisley from Greenock texts: "Disappointed with the result but the 1.6 million people of Scotland standing up against Westminster, banking, big business and the media, and the politics of fear, should be proud. Congratulations and well done to Alex Salmond and I agree with his decision to resign and make way for new invigorated leadership.

    17:44: Law Society on Salmond

    The president of the Law Society of Scotland, Alistair Morris, said Alex Salmond's place in "our nation's political history is assured".

    He said: "His achievements cannot be underestimated, not only as the longest-serving first minister and the first to obtain an overall majority at Holyrood, but also in securing a historic referendum on independence.

    "His passion for Scotland, his commitment to creating a fairer and more prosperous society and his formidable debating skills, both at Holyrood and Westminster, have been at the heart of Scottish politics for over 30 years. He has also been a proud and effective ambassador for Scotland on the world stage."

    17:42: Miliband reaction

    UK Labour leader Ed Miliband said: "Alex Salmond has been a formidable frontline politician.

    "Whatever our disagreements, he always spoke his mind and he has always stood up for what he believed in.

    "Our task now is to make sure that we deliver on the timetable we've set out, to deliver extra powers to the Scottish Parliament, and we will deliver on that."

    17:41: Salmond and the press

    The Guardian's Scotland correspondent Severin Carrell tweets: Newspapers not invited to @AlexSalmond resignation press conference: Financial Times; Daily Telegraph, Daily Mail, Daily Express. #indyref

    17:39: Miliband on further powers

    Leader of the Labour party Ed Miliband tweets: We will deliver on our promise of further powers to Scotland on the timetable set out during the referendum campaign.

    17:38: Your reaction to Salmond resignation

    Iain Murdoch from Fife emailed: Thank you Alex Salmond for all you have done to take Scotland forward to this point. You thoroughly deserve any rest you will now get. You have truly placed Scotland at the forefront of UK politics.

    Alvan Judson wrote: Just read your great news that Alex Salmond is resigning. Now he can go and spend his time watching re-runs of Braveheart until he, too, is blue in the face.

    Email: 17:36: Get involved

    Sam Wakerley: The only thing progressive about this whole debacle is the fact we gave Scotland the vote. True progress would be one world freedom passport, one currency, one renewable energy policy & every child having basic needs taken care of, with wants allocated based on effort and attainment. Call it UKIP call it SNP, call it BNP, nationalism is ugly.

    William Wright: And the lies have begun already. Millipede is scurrying back under the bench and retracting all his promises. I wonder how long it will be before Westminster fully rejects the lies they promised?

    17:33: Cameron on Salmond

    David Cameron has said: "Alex is a politician of huge talent and passion. I respect and admire his huge contribution to politics and public life."

    @William_Bain 17:33: William Bain MP

    Labour MP for Glasgow North East, William Bain, tweets: Huge aspect of #indyref level of public engagement with where power lies: why UK constitutional convention proposed by @Ed_Miliband is vital

    17:32: Thanks from lesbian and gay charity

    Scotland's lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex (LGBTI) equality charity, The Equality Network, said it wanted to say a "huge heartfelt thank you to Alex Salmond for significantly advancing LGBTI rights in Scotland".

    Policy coordinator Tom French said: "While more needs to be done, Alex Salmond should be incredibly proud of leading a government that has spoken out for LGBTI human rights, put in place some of the best hate crime legislation in Europe, and delivered one of the most progressive equal marriage laws in the world."

    17:32: Analysis Norman Smith BBC Assistant Political Editor

    In some ways it is a shock decision but in other ways it was not really a shock given the scale of the defeat.

    In a way he must reflect that although he has improved the SNP's standing hugely - they are now in government in Scotland and they got about 45% of the vote last night - he is a man who has a lot of people who just will simply never vote for Alex Salmond. There is a limit to his appeal.

    He may take the view that he does not have that final ingredient that will get a majority of people in Scotland voting for independence.

    He says he only made the decision this morning and that probably indicates that it was the scale of the defeat that made him decide to go.

    17:31: 'Tip our hats' to Salmond

    Sir Richard Branson tells the BBC News Channel that the referendum was "a great day for Britain", adding: "We should tip our hats to Alex Salmond for changing Britain for the better."

    17:30: Lamont on Salmond

    Johann Lamont said Alex Salmond "should be proud of his career and not allow the manner of its ending to dominate his thinking.

    "There is no question that Nicola Sturgeon and he were a formidable team."

    17:29: Salmond an 'immense figure'

    Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont says: "Alex Salmond turned a minority party into a party of opposition, into a party of government, and was responsible for there being a referendum on Scotland leaving the United Kingdom.

    "He has undoubtedly been an immense figure in Scottish political history.

    "I do not detract from his achievements when I say that his love of Scottish independence sometimes blinded him to its consequences."

    17:28: 'Greatest Scottish politician of his generation'

    Former SNP leader Gordon Wilson said Alex Salmond fought a brilliant referendum campaign.

    He said: "It is not his fault that the Scottish people did not vote for independence on this occasion. The winning of 45% of the vote in the Scottish independence referendum is a superlative achievement.

    "It is a mark of Alex's integrity that he has taken personal responsibility.

    "He is undoubtedly the greatest Scottish politician of his generation."

    17:27: The view from London
    Evening Standard

    The London Evening Standard - an evening paper - has splashed on David Cameron's pledge for "English votes for English laws" - this picture tweeted by the paper's political editor, Joe Murphy.

    17:27: 'I wish him well'

    Mr Darling added: "He has rightly said that the referendum was a once in a lifetime event and that we all need to work to bring Scotland together.

    "He can look back with pride on being the longest serving first minister and to the huge contribution he has made to public life in Scotland.

    "I wish him well in the future."

    17:26: Darling on Salmond

    Better Together campaign leader Alistair Darling said: "Alex Salmond is a formidable political figure. He transformed the SNP into a party of government and delivered their referendum on independence which they had craved so long.

    "Today he has accepted Scotland's verdict, recognising that it is for others in his party to take the SNP forward."

    17:26: Salmond: No plans to withdraw

    Mr Salmond reiterates that he has no plans to withdraw or retire from political life, when asked about his future by BBC Newsnight's Kirsty Wark.

    17:25: More Lamont

    Ms Lamont, who faced Mr Salmond on a weekly basis at first minister's questions, said: "I do not detract from his achievements when I say that his love of Scottish independence sometimes blinded him to its consequences.

    "He should be proud of his career and not allow the manner of its ending to dominate his thinking.

    "There is no question that Nicola Sturgeon and he were a formidable team."

    17:24: Lamont on Salmond

    Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont said: "Alex Salmond turned a minority party into a party of opposition into a party of government and was responsible for there being a referendum on Scotland leaving the United Kingdom.

    "He has undoubtedly been an immense figure in Scottish political history."

    17:22: More on Salmond

    London editor of news and opinion website The Daily Beast, Nico Hines, tweets: Christ, everyone is in tears at Holyrood. Incredible scenes. It's like a funeral

    17:21: Salmond reaction

    MP for Glasgow Central Anas Sarwar tweets: Haven't always agreed with Alex Salmond's politics but recognise his contribution & commitment to Scotland. Wish him well for the future

    17:20: Business on Salmond

    Business leaders have paid tribute to Alex Salmond, following his resignation.

    The Federation of Small Businesses, which has 20,000 members, said he had made "a huge contribution" to Scottish public life and wished him well for the future.

    17:20: Davidson on Salmond

    Ruth Davidson argued that Alex Salmond's "decision to step down will help our country come back together again".

    She added: "I am pleased that the first minister says he will continue to serve in Scottish politics.

    "Scotland will benefit from his experience and service as we move forward."

    17:17: Ruth Davidson statement

    Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson said: "Alex Salmond has been the dominant figure in Scottish politics for the last seven years.

    "No-one can dispute his political achievements, nor fail to acknowledge his political gifts.

    "He has done the right thing in resigning.

    "While the referendum campaign has been hugely invigorating, by its very nature it has divided too."

    17:15: Salmond reaction

    Shona Robison, SNP MSP for Dundee, tweets: Really sad day, but watching the resignation of @AlexSalmond as FM, he has done so in a great statesmanlike manner

    17:14: 'Joint ticket' Andrew Black Political reporter, BBC Scotland

    Nicola Sturgeon would be a clear frontrunner to take over as SNP leader and first minister after Mr Salmond steps down, but the question of who would succeed Ms Sturgeon as deputy is much less clear.

    Last time round, Mr Salmond and Ms Sturgeon stood for the SNP leadership on a joint ticket.

    17:13: The next SNP leader?

    In a statement, Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has just said she could think of "no greater privilege" than leading the SNP, adding that the decision to stand was "not for today".

    Back in April, Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon spoke to the BBC's Marianne Taylor about her life and career, and the responsibilities of power.

    Nicola Sturgeon
    17:08: 'Finest first minister'

    "Alex's announcement today inevitably raises the question of whether I will be a candidate to succeed him as SNP leader," she added.

    "I can think of no greater privilege than to seek to lead the Party I joined when I was just 16. However, that decision is not for today.

    "My priority this weekend, after a long and hard campaign, is to get some rest and spend time with my family. I also want the focus over the next few days to be on the outstanding record and achievements of the finest first minister Scotland has had."

    17:07: 'Personal gratitude'

    Ms Sturgeon added: "The personal debt of gratitude I owe Alex is immeasurable. He has been my friend, mentor and colleague for more than 20 years. Quite simply, I would not have been able to do what I have in politics without his constant advice, guidance and support through all these years."

    17:06: Sturgeon statement

    Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said: "Alex Salmond's achievements as SNP leader and Scotland's first minister are second to none.

    "He led the SNP into government and has given our country a renewed self confidence. Through policies such as the council tax freeze, free prescriptions and the scrapping of tuition fees, he has made a real difference for hundreds of thousands of Scots. And yesterday he inspired 1.6 million of our fellow citizens to vote Yes to independence."

    16:59: Who is Alex Salmond?

    Alex Salmond may not have achieved the ultimate prize of Scottish independence - and has now stood down as SNP leader and first minister - but no-one should doubt the scale of Alex Salmond's achievements, says BBC political report Brian Wheeler.

    16:55: Salmond 'provides shocks'

    John Curtice, polling expert and professor of politics at Strathclyde University, says Mr Salmond "has form in providing us with shocks when it comes to the leadership of the SNP".

    "Some must remember the summer of 2000 when suddenly he announced he was standing down as leader of the SNP and was leaving the Scottish Parliament... then in the summer of 2004, he suddenly announced that in fact he was going to stand as leader again.

    "He spots opportunities and as a result of that he does provide us with shocks."

    16:50: Watch Salmond speech
    @joepike 16:44: Joe Pike of Border TV

    Joe Pike, political reporter for Border TV, tweets: Room is transfixed. Salmond's tone soft, his eyes watering. His advisers show no emotion. #indyref

    @ClyesdAileen 16:42: Aileen Campbell MSP

    Aileen Campbell, SNP MSP for Clydesdale, tweets: Gutted about @AlexSalmond 's resignation - he took us to the brink of independence and gave us all the chance to decide.

    16:41: Independence dead?

    When asked by the BBC's James Cook if his dream of independence is now dead, Mr Salmond says: "I think a referendum is a once in a generation process - that's my opinion."

    He goes on to say that he does not envisage another constitutional referendum in the "future we can see".

    @GlasgowMSP 16:40: Bob Doris SNP

    SNP MSP or Glasgow Bob Doris tweets: It has been a privilege 2 serve under Alex Salmond. He has brought gr8 confidence 2 our nation &social progress 2 Scotland in face of UK cuts.

    @glasgowcathcart 16:35: James Dornan MSP

    SNP member of the Scottish Parliament for Glasgow Cathcart, James Dornan, tweets: Devastated to hear @AlexSalmond going to step down as SNP Leader. Without a doubt the finest politician of his generation. Thanks Boss.

    16:34: Salmond resigns Douglas Fraser Business and economy editor, Scotland

    .@AlexSalmond to remain First Minister until SNP elects new leader, scheduled for mid-November SNP conference, then vote of MSPs.

    16:33: Salmond: Campaign 'bigger than me'

    Asked if he was adding to the upset for friends and party members on a day that was already difficult for them, he responded: "I have consistently argued... that this was not about an individual or a political party - or any political party - this was much bigger than that."

    16:31: Salmond: 'People accept result'

    "I see no sign of the divided country that some people were forecasting - 99% of people know we have elections and referendums to have a result."

    He says it's been an "invigorating process".

    Tweet @bbcscotlandnews 16:29: Get Involved

    The number of tweets about the Referendum dropped to under 40,000 between 3pm and 4pm. The figure is down 7% on the previous hour.

    Top tweet in the last hour is from Alastair Ross: "BBC is reporting Labour leader Ed Miliband will not sign up to the PM's plan to give more powers to the Scottish Parliament #indyref" It was retweeted 510 times.

    Comedian Russell Brand tweeted his latest video: "Were the cards stacked against independence? 'How Westminster Fear & Media Bias Shafted Scotland' is today's Trews." It is currently the most shared video.

    You can join the conversation via #indyref, tweet @BBCPolitics or go to the BBC News page on Facebook.

    16:28: 'Meaningless' James Cook Scotland Correspondent, BBC News

    Alex Salmond says when he asked David Cameron about the timetable for more powers, the prime minister said it was a meaningless process.

    Text 80295 16:28: Alex Salmond's resignation- Your Views

    Lorna: I was heartbroken by the No vote and the acceptance by 55% of a pig in a Westminster poke. However, Alex Salmond's stepping down has left us leaderless and at the mercy of the spivs of the city.

    Andy in Darvel: Alex Salmond has put in a good shift, fair play. Is there grounds though for holding Scottish elections early now?

    16:26: Salmond questions

    Alex Salmond is continuing to take questions from journalists at Bute House in Edinburgh.

    16:22: Salmond: Key quotes

    "I am immensely proud of the campaign which Yes Scotland fought and of the 1.6 million voters who rallied to that cause by backing an independent Scotland.

    "I am also proud of the 85% turnout in the referendum and the remarkable response of all of the people of Scotland who participated in this great constitutional debate and the manner in which they conducted themselves.

    "We now have the opportunity to hold Westminster's feet to the fire on the 'vow' that they have made to devolve further meaningful power to Scotland. This places Scotland in a very strong position."

    16:20: Salmond: Key quotes on future

    "Until then [November] I will continue to serve as first minister. After that I will continue to offer to serve as member of the Scottish Parliament for Aberdeenshire East.

    "It has been the privilege of my life to serve Scotland as first minister. But as I said often during the referendum campaign this is not about me or the SNP. It is much more important than that.

    "The position is this. We lost the referendum vote but can still carry the political initiative. More importantly Scotland can still emerge as the real winner."

    16:18: Salmond: Key quotes on resignation

    "For me right now there is a decision as to who is best placed to lead this process forward politically.

    "I believe that in this new exciting situation, redolent with possibility, party, parliament and country would benefit from new leadership.

    "Therefore I have told the National Secretary of the SNP that I will not accept nomination to be a candidate for leader at the Annual Conference in Perth on 13-15 November.

    "After the membership ballot I will stand down as first minister to allow the new leader to be elected by due parliamentary process."

    16:21: Salmond: I will not retire

    "I have no intention of retiring from Scottish politics - there are a large number of things you are able to do when you're not first minister or leader of a political party."

    Salmond 'had to make judgement'

    When asked his reasons for standing down, Mr Salmond says: "I had to make a judgement as to whether I'm best placed to take that opportunity forward - and I think others are.

    "And the party I'm sure will make a wise choice and take party and country forward. The most important thing is not about First Minister."

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 16:17: Join in the conversation

    @Soulstorm99 tweets: This dark day for Scotland just keeps getting darker. Thanks for everything, @AlexSalmond. #indyref

    16:12: Salmond successor

    Mr Salmond says there there are a "number of eminently qualified and very suitable candidates for leader".

    16:11: Salmond 'time over'

    "We lost the referendum vote but Scotland can still carry the political initiative. For me as leader my time is nearly over but for Scotland the campaign continues and the dream shall never die."

    Alex Salmond
    16:09: Breaking News

    Alex Salmond is to stand down as first minister.

    16:08: Salmond speaks

    First Minister Alex Salmond, speaking to members of the media, said: "I am immensely proud of the campaign that Yes Scotland fought and particularly of the 1.6m voters who rallied to that cause."

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 16:02: Join the conversation

    @Dilicorne tweets: @BBC_HaveYourSay @BBCWorld the fact #scottland would end-up outside of #eu must have played a role in the referendum @Number10gov

    16:01: Highlights from the final day

    Watch highlights of the night Scotland decided to stay part of the union.

    16:00: Salmond press conference

    First Minister Alex Salmond's first press conference since the result is due to start shortly.

    16:01: The minute Scotland knew

    Watch #BBCtrending's take on the social media reaction from Scotland's No vote.

    Voter's reaction to No result
    15:55: Trident Protest Andrew Black Political reporter, BBC Scotland

    'Yes' backers in good spirits outside parliament. A piper plays as they plan an anti-trident demo tomorrow

    15:51: Miliband 'derailing' Devo plans Tim Reid Political correspondent, BBC News

    Bernard Jenkin [Conservative backbencher] accusing Ed Miliband of "derailing" PM's devo plans for England and "playing fast and loose" with the Union

    Tweet @BBCScotlandnews 15:50: Get involved

    @lauraharmes tweets: I've basically been awake for 3 days. Things are getting a bit trippy #indyref

    15:37: Holyrood debate Andrew Black Political reporter, BBC Scotland
    Scottish Parliament

    Crowds gather at the Scottish Parliament. Many proud independence supporters still wearing 'Yes' badges #indyref

    15:35: Tears and relief

    Watch Yes and Better Together supporters giving their reaction to a No vote in the Scottish independence referendum.

    Voter reactions
    15:30: The Big Debate

    One No supporter says he was very pleased when he woke up to the result but is "horrified" at the abuse he says he has been subjected to by Yes campaigners.

    "Throughout the whole campaign the nasty side of independence has come from the Yes campaign," he says, but Ms Leckie says "proportionately No has been nastier on social media".

    Moving to the more positive, an audience member says Scotland should be very proud that so many people were involved in the referendum campaign, and in politics for the first time. "The most important thing now is that we get these powers of devolution," adds the No voter.

    Another lauds the massive turnout - nearly 85% - and the passion she saw during the campaign.

    One member of the Big Debate audience gets very animated as she demands "detail, detail, detail please" on any new powers Scotland may receive.

    15:29: Miliband: Debate needed Robin Brant Political Correspondent, BBC News

    Ed Miliband signals that he will not sign up to the prime minister's plan to give more power to the Scottish Parliament at the same time as trying to agree new powers for English MPs.

    While accepting the need for reforms, the Labour leader says that he wants a process of debate to begin before the general election but - crucially - he calls for a constitutional convention to finalise reform to happen later, in the autumn of 2015.

    David Cameron had earlier said changes to address the so-called English question - to allow English MPs the same powers over England-only legislation that the devolved parliament and assemblies will have in Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast - "must take place in tandem with, and at the same pace as, the settlement for Scotland".

    15:27: What happens next?
    A Scottish Saltire flag and British Union flag fly together with the London Eye behind in London

    BBC Scotland political reporter Andrew Black says the focus is now on how the UK government delivers its promise of more powers for the Scottish Parliament.

    He looks more closely at what we can expect next here.

    15:19: Analysis Douglas Fraser Business and economy editor, Scotland

    So when is the next independence referendum? No, hang on. Stop whimpering like that. Bear with me. You may soon have withdrawal symptoms from the campaign, so why not plan for the next one?

    After all, 1.6 million people wanted Scotland to be independent - the nationalists among them irreconcilable to UK citizenship, some of them newly and passionately mobilised to the cause.

    Alex Salmond

    They may be heart-sore at losing. It will hurt all the more to have seen the opinion polls narrow to a dead heat, with momentum apparently going their way, only to see a decisive result turn against them on the night.

    But they're not going away. So what else would happen to their cause but a campaign for another referendum to give it another big heave?

    Read Douglas' full blog.

    Email: 15:17: Get Involved

    Garth Beecroft: The high turnout shows that people are more interested in politics & policies rather than the person, which is how it should be. It's the bickering between politicians & one-upmanship that turns people off.

    Mat Dixon: Is it just me that feels slightly annoyed by the Scots voting No? I think it was unfair that the English cannot have a vote to see if we still want to be in a union with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It seems, from my point of view, that because I am English that everyone assumes that I want to be classed as British. I really hoped that they would vote Yes then we could get on with our own business and they could get on with theirs.

    Michael Prager: England must have the same devolved powers on law making and tax-raising as the Celtic fringe of the UK. The famously unwritten constitution of the UK must be amended so that, in balance to greater devolved powers, there is a requirement that no one nation can take decisions that affect the others without a clear, say 2/3 majority across the entire UK on matters that affect the boundaries of the nation, the rule of law or the delegation of powers to non UK, supra national bodies, e.g. The EU.

    15:14: 'Work starts today'

    Lord Smith of Kelvin, who has been appointed to oversee the process of devolving more powers to Scotland, says it is "time for us to come together and work together".

    Lord Smith of Kelvin

    "I have started work today and will present what I hope will be unifying recommendations on 30 November," he added.

    "There will be an opportunity for everyone to have their say. First, I will be speaking to all the UK and Scottish political parties.

    "Secondly, I will be engaging the institutions of Scotland, whether it be trade unions, businesses or voluntary organisations.

    "Lastly and most importantly, 4.2 million people in Scotland were involved in the referendum. They aren't all represented by political parties or institutions; they are individuals who have ideas and thoughts on our future. I want to reach out to them and make them an essential part of this exciting process."

    Text 80295 15:10: Referendum - Your Views

    BBC News website reader: Never felt so ashamed to be Scottish. We chose subservience instead of freedom. The establishment can again celebrate that nothing has changed.

    BBC News website reader: Scottish referendum. Now treat England exactly the same. That is - establishment of an English parliament with the same powers and then a referendum on an independent England.

    15:07: Breaking News

    US President Barack Obama welcomes the referendum result, congratulating the Scottish people for a "full and energetic exercise of democracy".

    "We have no closer ally than the United Kingdom, and we look forward to continuing our strong and special relationship with all the people of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as we address the challenges facing the world today," he says in a statement.

    Text 80295 15:06: Referendum - Get Involved

    Derek, Scotland: Lorna, 14:07: Perhaps the old voted NO because they are experienced with detecting when a story doesn't add up. Let's not pretend this wasn't a massive endorsement of the union. YES failed to win the argument on every level.

    Tom, Glasgow: I'm angry today: angry at the dyed in the wool Labour voters who only vote Labour because they always Labour; notwithstanding the fact that their 'new Labour' party is now so far to the right and in bed with the Tories; and I'm angry at the older voters who only had their self interests at heart over the needs of young people and the future of this country.

    15:04: 'Lack of rancour' Norman Smith BBC Assistant Political Editor

    It's only anecdotal - but vox popping folk in Glasgow city centre - there seems a remarkable lack of rancour over #indyref vote #lifegoeson

    15:02: Welsh worries Hywel Griffith BBC Wales Health correspondent

    If David Cameron thought that offer to put Wales at the centre of the debate over a new UK would find him some friends in the Welsh Assembly this morning, he was wrong.

    Labour's Carwyn Jones, the First Minister for Wales, rounded on him pretty quickly, accusing David Cameron of almost sleepwalking into disaster over Scotland and now potentially doing the same over the rest of the UK.

    Carwyn Jones

    For two years, Jones has been calling on a UK constitutional convention. That, it seems, isn't going to happen in three months. The real problem for Welsh Labour here is two-fold: they don't have much leverage. This discussion, increasingly, is going over the relationship between Scotland and England.

    Secondly, one for the Welsh MPs. Not the West Lothian question, but the Clwyd West problem, because Labour has 26 MPs here in Wales. If you take them out of Westminster, clearly that causes a headache next May.

    So, the response to that offer from David Cameron - cool, I have to say. People do want more powers, but they want a proper seat at the table too.

    14:59: Salmond delay Laura Kuenssberg BBC Newsnight

    Alex Salmond press conference has been delayed for hours...

    14:58: The Result - In Maps

    While more than 1.6 million Scots voted Yes, the campaign only topped four of Scotland's 32 local authority areas.

    See the breakdown of the vote.

    map of referendum result
    14:56: The issues of Northern Ireland Andy Martin BBC Ireland Correspondent

    I think the big question for Northern Ireland is can it handle any more devolution? Can it handle any more power?

    Government here in Stormont is not like anywhere else in the United Kingdom. We have a mandatory collation of five different parties. The two main parties - the DUP is a centre right unionist party, and the other party Sinn Fein is a hard left nationalist party. They don't agree on very much.

    Peter Robinson and Martin McGuinness

    First Minister Peter Robinson and Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness are at loggerheads at the moment over the implementation of welfare reform which hasn't happened in Northern Ireland and as a consequence it will cost the budget here £84m this year, £114m next year.

    The question arises: if they got further tax-raising powers or if they got the ability to have more power over their financial affairs, would they be able to manage that? The one thing they do agree is corporation tax should be devolved.

    Two quotes to leave you with. Peter Robinson: "There is no point in giving the executive more powers. It is not capable of controlling the powers they have."

    And Arlene Foster, of the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Investment, says there needs to be a "huge dose of reality".

    14:53: 'Wrong campaign'

    Andy Maciver, who voted No and is a panellist on The Big Debate, says it is easier to run a campaign for change than a campaign for the status quo.

    "No ran the wrong campaign for 90% of it because they ran a campaign on telling Scotland they couldn't do something which actually they could do."

    14:49: 'Different place'

    Daniel Johnson, speaking on The Big Debate, says Scotland is now a "different place". He adds: "There is a sense of opportunity and a change in the air and that is actually really very exciting."

    Louise Batchelor, Yes campaigner, says she is finding it hard to be positive about the result.

    "I feel as if I'm at a funeral for an idea that could have been realised last night and wasn't and you have to do that thing that you do at a funeral for a friend of brightly smiling."

    She fears the nation is moving towards a period of "nasty politics", adding the referendum was a "wasted opportunity".

    14:46: 'Not off the hook' Andrew Black Political reporter, BBC Scotland

    Scotland's local government minister, Derek Mackay, encapsulates one of the key Scottish government messages of today, that more powers must now be delivered by the UK government.

    He stops short of suggesting there'd be another independence referendum if there's any dithering, but adds: "Westminster is not off the hook".

    14:45: 'Visionary' campaign

    Carolyn Leckie, former Scottish socialist MSP and member of Women for Independence, tells the Big Debate she is disappointed by the result but is "really proud" of the Yes campaign.

    "The Yes campaign in general was extremely positive, creative, visionary, inclusive, democratic, wanted to have people discussing things."

    @richardbranson 14:42: Richard Branson

    Entrepreneur Richard Branson tweets: This referendum was a vote for change, and change begins today. #indyref



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