The politics of welfare cuts
Curb benefits for big families. That, once again, is the cry coming from the Conservative side of the coalition.
The idea - to cap benefits after families have their second child - is guaranteed to generate headlines, controversy, but, you know what, very little money.
Officials in the Department for Work and Pensions estimate that the savings could be one or two hundred million. That's compared with the £18bn already cut from the welfare budget and the additional £10bn now being looked for.
There are two reasons. The first is that there are far fewer big families than people imagine. The second is the the Tories are examining curbing benefit for new claimants and not existing ones.
The real money-savers come from lowering the annual increases in benefits - the switch from the RPI measure of inflation to the lower CPI. Ministers are now debating raising benefits this year by less than either measure.
So, why all the talk about caps? They're hugely popular. I'm told that support for setting the cap for benefits for families at two children is around three quarters of the population. If, instead, you suggest capping benefits at three children, support drops to around a third.
Why? Because most families have two children and don't understand why people who don't work should have things they don't. A view which changes, of course, if they lose their job.
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Comment number 303.
lefty1126th October 2012 - 23:58
301 steve.
Look Steve, take a look at this link, Your not going to like it, in fact i would suggest checking this whole independent site out. The truth is far more complicated than your right wing drivel. Please don't come back unless it's at least a bit intelligent or is backed by some factual evidence.
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/commentary/migrant-workers-taking-our-jobs-or-not
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Comment number 302.
Arthur Daley26th October 2012 - 23:57
This government baffles me
Why make a song & dance about stuff like this & the pasty tax
They are non starters
Are there not enough real problems to deal with
Only somebody really stupid would waste time like this, oh well that explains it
Or maybe the idea is to use up time so the real problems cant be dealt with because they are real difficult
So its stupidity or procrastination
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Comment number 301.
Steve_M-H26th October 2012 - 22:36
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So, letting in an extra four million people to do the jobs the doleboys saw as being beneath them or to rub the right's nose in multiculturalism kinda blew up in your face, eh Lefty? And its easier to get your pig thick supporters to think its the tories fault... Cue you slagging off UKIP and avoiding answering the main charge...
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Comment number 300.
Steve_M-H26th October 2012 - 22:07
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So why keep on having them if this is what happens to them? Surely this reinforces the case?
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Comment number 299.
lefty1126th October 2012 - 21:06
I hope everyone can have a good look at this article on IDS.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/why-iain-duncan-smith-should-look-1400558
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