Claim of 'backdoor' lowering of voting age to 16


Lord Forsyth and Lord Wallace, the Advocate General for Scotland, on lowering the voting age

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A row has broken out over claims that allowing 16 and 17-year-olds to vote on Scottish independence will lead to a lowering of the UK-wide voting age.

The government appears to have conceded that younger voters will have a say in whether Scotland remains in the UK.

One Labour MP said she hoped the "cultural shift" would lead to a lower age limit for UK general elections.

But Lord Forsyth, a Conservative, described the move as a "backdoor way" of forcing the hands of MPs.

Alex Salmond the Scottish First Minister will meet David Cameron next week to finalise a deal on how the 2014 referendum will be run.

Voters in Scotland are expected to be given a straight, in-or-out choice of whether or not to stay in the UK.

Mr Salmond has been pushing for 16 and 17-year olds to be able to vote in the poll.

Labour MP Natascha Engel told Radio 4's Today Programme: "The cultural shift that will come with allowing them to participate in the Scottish referendum will shift the mood in Westminster to make sure that 16 and 17-year-olds will be given the vote after that."


On Wednesday, government minister Lord Wallace said the coalition had no plans to extend the UK election franchise to younger people.

"The franchise for referendums is set out in the legislation that enables each referendum to take place," he said.

But Tory Lord Forsyth said if the law was to change it should be "properly debated by the House of Commons".

He accused Alex Salmond of "attempting to bully the prime minister" into lowering the age in return for having just a single question on any referendum ballot paper.

Constitutional expert Professor Vernon Bogdanor - a supporter of lowering the voting age from 18 - said "private negotiations" between David Cameron and Mr Salmond were "not the way" to bring about a change in the rules.

But he said such a change would make sense: "Sixteen-year-olds are still at school so they're having civics lessons and citizenship lessons so it's likely they'll pick up the habit of voting.

"By the age of 18 some people have left school so they've forgotten about their civics lessons and, as we know, the young on the whole don't vote very much."

According to pollsters Ipsos Mori, fewer than half of the 18-24 year olds registered to vote in the 2010 general election actually did vote. There was an almost even split in their support between the Conservatives, Labour and the Liberal Democrats.

And chief executive Ben Page suggested on BBC Radio 4's Today that allowing young people to vote might not benefit the SNP as the party hope.

"I'm not sure, if this is Alex Salmond's negotiation tactic, that it's going to pay off. In our most recent polling what we say is it's actually the 25 to 34-year-olds - who were teenagers when the movie Braveheart came out in the mid 1990s - who are actually most enthusiastic about independence in Scotland."


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    Comment number 323.

    I am opposed to lowering the voting age even 18 is probably too low. The way the system use to work was that children would leave school at 16-18 and train for a job by the time the reached 21 they had at least been through the education system, were working and in a much better position to form a political opinion. Now many will not have even finished their education by 21.

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    Comment number 263.

    I hope they get to vote, I hope Scotland breaks away from the madness that is the Westminster parliamentary system, and institutes a robust republic and get some economic sanity.

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    Comment number 258.

    At 16 most people are still forming political opinions and are easily swayed by the smiling grinning politician that promises them the moon on a stick, by 18 they've seen most of it before and are a little more cynical.

    Having said that i've met some very mature 16/17 year olds that dont fall into that trap and some very gullable 30-40 years olds that constantly do.

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    Comment number 118.

    Many so-called adults also don't have a clue about how the press or politics works. There is also no upper age limit on voting, no matter how senile some people may be. I think that 16-17-year-olds should be allowed to vote as it is they who will be affected most by decisions made regarding the future,

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    Comment number 116.

    If you're old enough to be taxed then you're old enough to vote on how that tax gets spent.

    If 16 year olds can't vote then don't tax their income or make them pay VAT.


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