Trains are a rich man's toy, says transport secretary


Philip Hammond says trains have become a "rich man's toy"

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British railways are a "rich man's toy", Transport Secretary Philip Hammond has told MPs.

He was responding to a question about regulating fare prices on the planned high speed rail link so that it would be a "railway for everybody".

He said it was an "uncomfortable fact" that trains were already used by the better-off and said some fares were "eye-wateringly expensive".

Labour blamed Mr Hammond for allowing rail fares to "rocket".

Commuter season tickets are set to rise by about 8% on average next year - an above-inflation increase which is part of the government's plan to reduce the cost of the rail network to the public purse.

'Ripple effect'

Mr Hammond appeared before the Commons transport committee on Tuesday to answer questions on High Speed 2 (HS2) - the planned line between London and Birmingham with a possible future extension to northern England and Scotland.

He was asked by Labour MP Julie Hilling whether HS2 would become a "rich person's toy" unavailable to "people of low or moderate means".

She said: "Can you assure people that actually, it's going to be a railway for everybody, and what will happen about regulating fare prices, etc?"

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People who use the railway on average have significantly higher incomes than the population as a whole - simple fact”

End Quote Philip Hammond Transport Secretary

Mr Hammond replied: "Uncomfortable fact number one is that the railway is already relatively a rich man's toy - the whole railway.

"People who use the railway on average have significantly higher incomes than the population as a whole - simple fact."

He said it was assumed HS2 would use "similar pricing to the West Coast Mainline, which I have said before ranges from eye-wateringly expensive to really quite reasonable, if you dig around and use the advance purchase ticket options that are available".

The assumption was that the "socio-economic mix" of HS2 passengers would be similar to those using that route and that the "ripple effects" of High Speed 2 would spread across the economy.

The transport secretary later told the BBC he had not been talking about the cost of rail tickets but had answered a question about whether HS2 would be a rich man's toy "perhaps slightly flippantly" and had pointed out that people who used the railways were usually better off than average workers.

'Slightly flippantly'

"Is the railway expensive? Yes it is. Is that because we have too high costs in our railway? Yes it is and the government is determined that with the rail companies and Network Rail we will tackle excessive costs in the railway and get the costs of running our railway down so it becomes more affordable for taxpayers and fare payers alike."

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Far from being simply 'a rich man's toy' trains are also vital for many of those on more moderate incomes who need to get to work”

End Quote Stephen Joseph Campaign for Better Transport

The government changed the formula for calculating rail fare increases from 2012.

For the past few years the formula for fare increases has generally been RPI inflation plus 1%, but for the next three years it is RPI plus 3% - pushing the cost of season tickets up by an average of 8% in the new year.

Stephen Joseph, of the Campaign for Better Transport said: "Philip Hammond's description of rail fares as 'eye-watering' must lead the minister to reconsider the steep fare rises currently planned by government.

"Far from being simply 'a rich man's toy' trains are also vital for many of those on more moderate incomes who need to get to work, and the government will price many off the railways if it carries on with its plan to increases rail fares at three per cent above inflation over the next few years."

Shadow Transport Secretary Maria Eagle said: "The real reason that our railway is becoming a rich man's toy is Philip Hammond's decision to allow rail fares to rocket by an average of 8% every year.

"This increasingly out-of-touch government has no idea of the cost of living crisis facing families up and down the country and the impact these rises are having on household budgets."

But train companies said they played a "key role" in the British economy, supporting jobs and businesses.

A spokesman for the Association of Train Operating Companies said: "We get millions of passengers from A to B every day - people from all backgrounds who travel on a range of different tickets.

"The average price paid for a single journey comes in at around £5 and the sale of cheap advance tickets has doubled in the last few years, with almost a million sold every week.

Virgin Trains, which runs services on the West Coast mainline, told the BBC there was a "wider range of value fares than ever before" on their services.


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    Comment number 303.

    Pragmatism. Whatever their political allegiances, politicians have to recognize that there are some sectors where the market can make a good job and some others where the market will do a poor job. Energy and railways are sectors that have clearly demonstrated for a long time now that the market will do a poor job for them. Politicians have to be pragmatical and take decisions for the common good.

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    Comment number 300.

    Its easy to make cheap political points that privatisation is not working or that BR services were poor and both are true to some extent. The issue we need to address without political bias is why we cannot run efficient railways that take freight off the busy roads and are affordable and comfortable forpassengers to use? France, Italy,Germany, Sweden all manage it. Why can't we?

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    Comment number 283.

    I travel to London regularly from Newcastle but I haven't been able to afford the train for years. If you need any flexibility in your travel times/dates, then fares become ridiculous. If I try pricing it up, it's always less than half for me to drive. Environmentally, this is mad; a single car occupant burning fuel for a round trip of 600 miles as opposed to sat on a train.

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    Comment number 272.

    I used to get the train to work and it was a cheaper than running a car by about £2,000 a year. At that time I had money left over for two or three long-haul holidays every year....

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    Comment number 259.

    I don't think the railways in this country are ever going to be perfect. First people complained about safety, then about puncuality, then it was over-crowding, and now its ticket prices.

    I've come to accept rising ticket prices as a fact of life. However, I think that although the current system has it's weak points, it's still better than going back to British Rail.


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