St Paul's protest camp: Bishop calls for no violence

 

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There is "no use for violent confrontation" with protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral, the Bishop of London has said.

Dr Richard Chartres met demonstrators camped outside to discuss their views.

In an address Dr Chartres told protesters, who fear forcible removal, he shared many of their concerns on corporate greed.

However, he stopped short of agreeing to protesters' demands for a promise not to support eviction.

Legal action to clear the camp is being taken but that process could take months to complete.

'Benefit of the doubt'

"I have spoken to police and... I do not think we are on the inevitable road to violence," said Dr Chartres.

"Getting the legal situation clear is probably a sensible precautionary measure."

St Paul's reopened on Friday after closing for a week, for the first time since WWII, because of health and safety concerns of cathedral authorities.

Dr Richard Chartres (centre) Dr Chartres had a frank exchange with protesters

Lucy, one of the protesters, welcomed the speech but said they needed a promise from the church that they would not be forcibly removed.

"We need more of a guarantee that this is not going to happen," she told BBC News.

"That means me being dragged out of my tent in the night, my hair being pulled - we need a cast iron guarantee from the church this will not happen."

Asked whether the church was doing what Jesus would have done, she said: "I hope they will strive to do so.

"I give them the benefit of the doubt."

Cathedral authorities are offering the protesters' group, also known as Occupy London Stock Exchange (OLSX), the chance to hold a public debate in the church.

Chancellor's resignation

However, they want them to clear the camp before this takes place.

A number of Church of England figures have criticised the way in which the situation has been handled by St Paul's authorities.

Their decision to begin the eviction process prompted Dr Giles Fraser to step down as canon chancellor, on Thursday.

It was Canon Fraser who told police to allow the protesters to set up camp outside the cathedral on 15 October after they had been prevented from camping by the London Stock Exchange in privately-owned Paternoster Square near St Paul's.

The area around St Paul's Cathedral
 

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  • rate this
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    Comment number 711.

    @707
    because they are on private land - offer them your garden and hope no damage is done

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    Comment number 710.

    The article Marx must have had in mind when he said that the Church of England would give up 38 of its 39 articles rather than one-thirty-ninth of its income.Article 38 of the 39 Articles of the Church of England: "The riches and goods of Christians are not common, as touching the right, title and possession of the same, as certain Anabaptists do boast".

    Abolish the wages system.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 709.

    "Charity is a cold grey loveless thing. If a rich man wants to help the poor, he should pay his taxes gladly, not dole out money at a whim."

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    Comment number 708.

    706.Tiffany
    1 Minute Ago
    Plenty of armchair heroes here. It's easy to cowardly slag off others from behind your keyboards, isn't it? When was the last time any of you did anything useful and altruistic?

    When was the last time the "protesters" acted to upset the bankers rather than the weak target next to them?

  • rate this
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    Comment number 707.

    How very sad it is to read many of the comments below.. As we live in a country where I believe peaceful protest is legal, I cannot see any reason why people need to get so upset about it. I think it was great of the church to invite the protestors, and unless any damage is done I can't see why the camp shouldn't be allowed to stay. I really do not see any need for all aggro from both sides though

  • rate this
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    Comment number 706.

    Plenty of armchair heroes here. It's easy to cowardly slag off others from behind your keyboards, isn't it? When was the last time any of you did anything useful and altruistic?

  • rate this
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    Comment number 705.

    @AntiAntiCap

    Oh, it is clear what I am dealing with now... a man who quotes The Nutty Professor.

    try this one:

    A man can't ride your back unless it's bent.

    Martin Luther King, Jr. ;-)

  • rate this
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    Comment number 704.

    That so - called Vicar in York? If you are a Vicar, you are a disgrace to the Church of England. Learn the Queen's English.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 703.

    The culture of corporate greed has contributed to people suffering homelessness in the capital. Many of these people are out on the streets tonight. I was speaking to a gentleman tonight, J, who hangs out on the south bank near ITV studios. These people require expert help, mental support, hospital treatment for physical ailments and shelter, and then work.

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    Comment number 702.

    Wonder if these Church people ever read the book they get so excited about?
    "We are rich, they say. We've made a fortune. And no one can accuse us of getting rich dishonestly. But I, the Lord your God who led you out of Egypt, I will make you live in tents again..." Hosea 12:8-10 (Good News Translation)

  • rate this
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    Comment number 701.

    Explain.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 700.

    Just saw a protester harrassing a Bishop. It's pathetic.

    Then some woman who said, (paraphrasing) 'if they try to evict us, its me they will drag across the pavement'

    Go somewhere else then!

  • rate this
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    Comment number 699.

    @693.martin00937
    PMSL...or Jaspah and Binki

    omg that was so LOL, I PMSL..

    BTW K.Katona just picked her nose on ITV2 - it was awesome.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 698.

    Seriously, this is not about the cause of their protest, just the manner in which they are conducting it. Protest is a valid right, camping out outside St Pauls is not. Is this now a protest against the opressive church? If so I think they have lost sight of what they were trying to achieve.

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    Comment number 697.

    692.roaminoff
    1 Minute Ago
    Protest? What protest? Ah, the party at St Pauls you mean, Well, even the best party has to come to an end. Time to go home , nto just for tonight , take the tents too and don`t come back in the morning.

    They lost my support as soon as their LMF took over and they turned it into a holiday camp.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 696.

    the protestors' stance seems simple - highlight the problems the rich and greedy are causing the rest of us and seek to redress the imbalance of power and wealth.

    Less radical solutions to these problems could include -

    get vodafone to pay taxes due
    stop tesco offshoring their profits to avoid tax
    make the stagecoach founders pay for new trains from their profits

    are these unreasonable?

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    Comment number 695.

    @jamesf1950

    Oh I don't know about that James, perhaps what happened in 1666 will not be so kind this time. Karma has a possitive way of dealing with righteousness, so rethink your evil intent brother! ;-)

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    Comment number 694.

    The Church is apparently trying hard to be understanding and accommodating. That is more than I think these people deserve. To offer to make the church a forum for a debate/presentation is a very generous offer indeed. If these people really want to verbally make their case, they ought to take that offer and close down the tent city.

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    Comment number 693.

    654.Darren Shepperd, You just dont get it, you are far to posh to protest, you all sound like youve just come out of Elocution lessons, you patronise all those who have nothing in this society. Youll mature out of it and settle down and probably have a couple of kids called tobi and pippa, and you will be a able to tell em what a little rouge you once were, how you will all hoot with joy

  • rate this
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    Comment number 692.

    Protest? What protest? Ah, the party at St Pauls you mean, Well, even the best party has to come to an end. Time to go home , nto just for tonight , take the tents too and don`t come back in the morning.

 

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