St Paul's protest camp: Bishop calls for no violence

 

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There is "no use for violent confrontation" with protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral, the Bishop of London has said.

Dr Richard Chartres met demonstrators camped outside to discuss their views.

In an address Dr Chartres told protesters, who fear forcible removal, he shared many of their concerns on corporate greed.

However, he stopped short of agreeing to protesters' demands for a promise not to support eviction.

Legal action to clear the camp is being taken but that process could take months to complete.

'Benefit of the doubt'

"I have spoken to police and... I do not think we are on the inevitable road to violence," said Dr Chartres.

"Getting the legal situation clear is probably a sensible precautionary measure."

St Paul's reopened on Friday after closing for a week, for the first time since WWII, because of health and safety concerns of cathedral authorities.

Dr Richard Chartres (centre) Dr Chartres had a frank exchange with protesters

Lucy, one of the protesters, welcomed the speech but said they needed a promise from the church that they would not be forcibly removed.

"We need more of a guarantee that this is not going to happen," she told BBC News.

"That means me being dragged out of my tent in the night, my hair being pulled - we need a cast iron guarantee from the church this will not happen."

Asked whether the church was doing what Jesus would have done, she said: "I hope they will strive to do so.

"I give them the benefit of the doubt."

Cathedral authorities are offering the protesters' group, also known as Occupy London Stock Exchange (OLSX), the chance to hold a public debate in the church.

Chancellor's resignation

However, they want them to clear the camp before this takes place.

A number of Church of England figures have criticised the way in which the situation has been handled by St Paul's authorities.

Their decision to begin the eviction process prompted Dr Giles Fraser to step down as canon chancellor, on Thursday.

It was Canon Fraser who told police to allow the protesters to set up camp outside the cathedral on 15 October after they had been prevented from camping by the London Stock Exchange in privately-owned Paternoster Square near St Paul's.

The area around St Paul's Cathedral
 

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  • rate this
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    Comment number 691.

    674/686.gormacbudes
    sorry what was that..i was watching K.Katona..

    "passion" "integrity"..what are you gushing on about man!
    Lets start with simple "self respect" and "getting a job" before dicussing who has passion and integrity.
    As eddie murphy said, "there aint no inte'grity in being on benefits, living off the labour of others"...

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    Comment number 690.

    The land outside of St. Paul's I believe is private land, but as Giles Fraser came out and said that they could stay evicting them becomes considerably hardly than the eviction on LSX's land.

    It's not surprising that Giles Fraser "voluntarily" resigned over "potential violence" after his poor decision to allow the protesters to camp outside St. Paul's.

  • Comment number 689.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 688.

    Let's get our Central Banks (which are capable of creating any sum of money you can think of) to pay off all domestic and public debt and additionally to pay the sum of say $10m into a personal bank account that every person on the planet has.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 687.

    best solution

    leave them alone and hope for December weather like 2010
    be gone in hours !

  • rate this
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    Comment number 686.

    All the trolls are back after their fix of Downton Abbey. They all think they are Lords of their Manor. pipsqueaks always hollow loudly and are patriots, virtuos and sycophantic. Give me the Royle Family any day! REAL people, with real passion and integrity who care about their freinds and community not these backstabbing, self serving greedy Tories.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 685.

    The real issues which the protest is attempting to call attention to are being increasingly ignored, even trivialised. The mistakes made by the Church in handling this situation have meant that attention is being deflected away from the financial sector, playing directly into the government's hands and allowing Cameron to sit back and while the media buzz around the protesters and St. Paul's.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 684.

    680. marcus
    3 MINUTES AGO
    the dean of st pauls should resign, he should have allowed the protesters to set uip cam in the cathedral, he is a disgrace to the gospol,im a church of england vicar in york diocese and i am ashamed of st paul's cathedral's conduct

    Yeah,right.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 683.

    There is "no use for violent confrontation" with protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral, the Bishop of London has said.
    I hope he said that specifically to the Met. They love a full-scale confrontation - like this could easily develop into.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 682.

    661.adolfkinsey

    Well, I can see there's no hope of getting these protesters to go around the corner to the London exchange, and I don't blame them, people over there can be frightfully rude sometimes.
    But why not walk a few yards across the river and blockade the Tate Modern instead?

    Or T Emin could flog them off as an "installation"

  • rate this
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    Comment number 681.

    The Church has, yet again, revealed itself to be utterly irrelevant.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 680.

    the dean of st pauls should resign, he should have allowed the protesters to set uip cam in the cathedral, he is a disgrace to the gospol,im a church of england vicar in york diocese and i am ashamed of st paul's cathedral's conduct

  • rate this
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    Comment number 679.

    672.bhleic
    Just now
    Citasitis, I don't know what answers they have - YOU claim that they have some. What are they?
    +++
    Well, back at 425 and beyond a limitation of profit was mentioned, absent was any explanation as to how this was to be achieved. An example of an answer, perhaps a policy, but blatheringly incoherent. I'll stop talking when you make sense, sadly I'l be up very late for that.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 678.

    @671.jamesf1950
    I think i can adequately and accurately answer on behalf of the occupiers:
    AIM: disruption, press cov' and eventually a "peaceful remonstration" with the police.. to simply try to get "more stuff for free".. in short.
    HOW: By sitting in tents, singing Kum-baya, writing silly little signs..being disruptive to public and generally making a fool of themselves. Being on benefits.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 677.

    #671 that's not a fair thing to ask. If the campers don't really know, we don't have a chance ;-)

    #668 the SWP are the main organizers but the BBC never ever mention that detail. I guess its more interesting if we are lead to believe that its a spontaneous camping outbreak.....

    "Come to St Paul's for the occupation of the stock exchange comrades and look out for Neo nazi trolls" ;-D

  • Comment number 676.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 675.

    Although I agree that these issues are very important, I can't help but feel that the protestors have failed to further their cause because they can't articulate their particular stance. They are simply taking advantage of the Church because their see it as a "soft touch". Their "Evensong" was offensive, it was nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt. Time to quit playing and grow up!

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    Comment number 674.

    @AntiAntiCap

    SamCam, what have I told you about acting the goat on the net? Go back to Chequers, you are supposed to be entertaining Helen Bonham Carter and Hubby who are planning the next series of bread and circuses for the masses....when I told u to engage in propoganda warfare, I expected a bit more style Hun, Love Dave. x

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    Comment number 672.

    Citasitis, I don't know what answers they have - YOU claim that they have some. What are they?

    If you have no idea what you are talking about, it's probably best to stop talking. :)

 

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