Next generation Oyster cards could stop overcharging
Passengers could be paying more for their journey if they forget to, or cannot, touch out
It looks like some good news could be on the way for commuters who use Oyster cards.
As I've reported before, the issue of incomplete journeys or "overcharging" on Oyster is a problem and it costs Londoners millions a year when they are given maximum fares.
It happens when people don't or can't touch out, when for example there's a technical problem with the card readers.
For that you get a maximum fare of up to £7.40.
As I've mentioned before, the "Selective Auto Completion" option - which means you don't have to touch out - that Transport for London (TfL) can use when there are large crowds also has flaws.
The main one is that you have to touch in again within three days at to the same station to make it work.
Frank responseBut behind the scenes at TfL, work has been going on to reduce the number of incomplete journeys and that indicates they do acknowledge it is an issue.
This is what they have said in a frank response to a Freedom of Information request from the Liberal Democrats on the London Assembly:
"We recognise that more can be done and are working to further improve Oyster and the service provided to customers, including improved journey history information and work on a technological solution which we hope to introduce later this year to tackle the issue of incomplete journeys."
It has not been officially confirmed but I've been told that one of the solutions will be a type of "automatic journey complete".
What this means is if you do the same route five times a week and you don't touch out once, then the system will automatically complete the journey for you.
The idea is to limit the number of times the system will be allowed to do that every month. Although it's still early days, many commuters will welcome the move, and it certainly shows there's plenty of potential left in developing the Oyster card system.
There will also undoubtedly be questions around how many times a month is deemed fair and if the system can do it once, why not do it every time?
TfL's press office would only say: "We are working on a technological solution which we hope to introduce later this year to tackle the issue of incomplete journeys, which affect just 2% of the 7.5 million weekly Oyster Pay As You Go journeys on the TfL network."
But will auto journey complete help?
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Comment number 13.
Gary Simmonds12th July 2011 - 6:58
The Biggest problem i find is when Tfl has Planned Engineering Works and runs Buses instead of trains. You have to "Break Your Journey" sometimes having to Touch In on a normal bus Costing an "Additional £1.30" then back onto the underground again. Each Time paying Seperately.And when you call Oyster to try and get your "Extra Costs" Refunded it`s an 0845 number. Tfl Wins Every Which Way.
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Comment number 12.
Kavman111th July 2011 - 17:43
This system is flawed - and viscious. I was pulled up by tkt inspectors after improperly dabbing in. Trouble was, the gates at starting station were open & so when I dabbed nothing told me whether i had done-so properly or not. It turns out my card was just short of money for the journey (ironically because i hadn't completed the night before, due to the gates being open after a gig!)
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Comment number 11.
Richard Inwards11th July 2011 - 13:36
What would be nice is instead of getting a voucher if you claim for a refund due to a delay or mis charge, you are creditted back to your oyster card.
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Comment number 10.
CliveChip11th July 2011 - 12:54
This will only be a small improvement. Where they do need to improve is on their customer charter for delays. I put in two claims for delays, in early April and early May, and neither has been paid. I chased the first one weeks ago but still nothing. And by making it virtually impossible to complain on their website, they are hoping customers will just back down, so that they can keep our money
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Comment number 9.
bobby11111th July 2011 - 12:16
I ALWAYS check in/out. I've never been overcharged on a tube/DLR journey.
All my overcharging issues have been on NR. The E.S reported £60 M was collected in error per year; the top 3 stations all N.R.
Sometimes I have to touch in twice - this results in an uncompleted journey on NR, NEVER on tube/DLR.
With Boris and oyster on N.R; he negioated a very poor deal.
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