World Cup pubs late licence bid rejected

 
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There will be no national extension of pub licensing hours during England's opening World Cup match, the Home Office has confirmed.

The British Beer and Pub Association (BBPA) had asked for serving times to be extended on two weekends during the tournament in Brazil this summer.

But the Home Office rejected the bid, saying the World Cup was not a "one-off" event like the Queen's Jubilee.

England play Italy at 23:00 BST on Saturday 14 June 2014.

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Premises which wish to open longer during this time can do so by applying for a Temporary Event Notice extension”

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Industry body the BBPA had put in an application on behalf of all pubs to allow them to to stay open from 23:00 to 01:00 on that Friday and Saturday - the opening weekend of the tournament.

It also asked for an extra two hours on the closing weekend, 11 and 12 July.

BBPA chief executive Brigid Simmonds told BBC Radio 5 live: "The Home Office wrote back to us and said 'we don't consider this of national importance'.

"They've really missed something here and they should reconsider."

She said a temporary licence would cost pubs a total of £738,000 if they all applied for individual licences.

Upset fans watching Arsenal lose in a pub The BBPA says 4m people watched the 2010 World Cup in the pub
Chelsea fans watching football on a pub TV

Individual pubs can apply for a one-off late licence at a cost of £21 or in "exceptional circumstances" ministers can extend hours nationally.

Fans group the Football Supporters' Federation said it was a "great shame" for those priced out of travelling to Brazil.

"For many fans the next best thing to a live game is the communal vibe of the pub," the federation's Graham Brunskill told the Daily Star Sunday.

Ministers extended weekend licensing hours for the recent royal wedding and Queen's Jubilee.

But Crime Prevention Minister Norman Baker said the government had "no plans" to repeat the move.

"It is our normal practice to only extend licensing hours under the Licensing Act 2003 in exceptional circumstances, usually for one-off events such as the Golden Jubilee rather than prolonged periods," he said.

"Premises which wish to open longer during this time can do so by applying for a Temporary Event Notice extension.

"This gives local authorities and police an opportunity to feed into the decision making process, allowing them to allocate resources if necessary."

 

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  • rate this
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    Comment number 363.

    "going to the pub" is so last century. The rate they're closing with luck none will still be open in the summer. Time to think of others and not just beer selling numpties - government got this absolutely right. Well done Dave...for once.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 362.

    You can take away our football, you can take away our pubs, you can take away our salted peanuts and pork scratchings, you can even take away our take aways BUT you can never take away our freedom and our liberty. We WILL watch the world cup on the beaches, in the streets, on the landing grounds. We will never surrender (before the quarter finals) BECAUSE WE ARE ENGLISH.

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    Comment number 361.

    As far as I can see this is the only thread open.

    If there has to be only one, on the licence payers' site, then given all that's going on, should it really be about whether or not pubs need apply for their own extensions, in the usual way, as they do for any other event?

    The BBC might rather the public did not comment on more vital matters, as they might make a better case than theirs?

  • rate this
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    Comment number 360.

    352. doug
    5 MINUTES AGO
    If pubs want to circumvent this they can, people just have to purchase their drinks before final orders. They could pay for a drinks ticket that can be redeemed at a later time, say 1 am. Another possibility is a raffle where everyone wins; that's what a pub near me that lost it's license did.
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    Thats a bit, no sorry, a lot, like diving.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 359.

    "EjukayshunWurks
    BBC moderation summed up by this HYS. Have a look at the lowest rated and see the Editors' Picks"

    You do realise that once something has become an "Editors' Pick" it is more likely to be rated, either positively or negatively, than any other post hidden away? Editors' pick isn't meant to be "mos popular".

  • rate this
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    Comment number 358.

    It says individual pubs can open late for a fee of £21, so what's the problem here? They'll make this back in the first minute of the game.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 357.

    Yet again the civil service out of touch with the nation.

    Everything's fine with the world as long as they get their pensions and OBEs when they retire.

    The rest of us can go hang.

  • rate this
    +6

    Comment number 356.

    please nanny can I watch the tootball and have a few drinks and a laugh with my friends

  • rate this
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    Comment number 355.

    Should we leave the World Cup souvenirs on the shop shelves, after all the game is not that important the Home Office tells us.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 354.

    Given that the government wants to shrink the size of the state, by not considering a blanket licence, they are creating a bureaucratic monster that will, I am sure, cost more than the £21 that is given in fees, particularly given the inefficiency of bureaucratic processes.

    It seems that the government is short sighted prefers red tape.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 353.

    BBC moderation summed up by this HYS. Have a look at the lowest rated and see the Editors' Picks.

    Sweepstake on how long until this gets removed. I'll take 3 mins 15 seconds for a pound.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 352.

    If pubs want to circumvent this they can, people just have to purchase their drinks before final orders. They could pay for a drinks ticket that can be redeemed at a later time, say 1 am. Another possibility is a raffle where everyone wins; that's what a pub near me that lost it's license did.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 351.

    When have England ever played in blue or yellow?

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    Comment number 350.

    The laws in this country are a joke.
    NannyState #1 Starts with the government and continuous with some banks were they happy to take your money but don't want to give it back. I just going use it, milk it and then leave this island...

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    Comment number 349.

    Good. I'll be down-rated into oblivion for this, but maybe the situation would be different if football fans could actually be trusted to behave themselves with a few pints down their necks. The reality is, they just can't.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 348.

    Most sports pubs will apply for and get their special license to stay open late, those that do not cater to footballing fans can stick to their regular hours and not pay what seems a nominal fee. This ruling does not mean all football fans must be at home by the start of the game, just that they recognise that not everyone wants to stay up that late.

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    Comment number 347.

    will anyone care after the group stages probably not

  • Comment number 346.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 345.

    Most comments on here seem to be from football haters or people who didn't read the article. All pubs that show live football will pay £21 for an extension - this is all about raising money, not keeping fans under control. And the person who suggested watching it recorded the next day is clearly not a fan!

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    Comment number 344.

    "Since the English seem incapable of consuming alcohol with leaving piles of vomit in the streets, I would suggest that a better course of action would be to revoke all late licences during the football world cup (there are other world cups of course)."
    Yes there are other world cups and we invented them all, also the language you are butchering

 

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