Syria: Cameron and Obama threaten 'serious response'

 

Prime Minister David Cameron and President Barack Obama spoke by phone on Saturday

The UK and the US have threatened a "serious response" if it emerges Syria used chemical weapons last week.

Prime Minister David Cameron and President Barack Obama spoke on the telephone for 40 minutes on Saturday.

Both were "gravely concerned" by the "increasing signs that this was a[n]... attack carried out by the Syrian regime", Mr Cameron's office said.

But intervention would have serious consequences and the US case was weak, the Syrian information minister warned.

In an interview with Lebanese TV, Omran Zoabi said: "If the US leads a military intervention, this will have dangerous consequences. It will bring chaos and the region will burn."

The Syrian government has denied any use of chemical weapons, blaming rebel fighters instead.

State television reported on Saturday that soldiers had found chemical agents in tunnels used by the rebels to the east of Damascus.

It broadcast images of gas masks and plastic containers, but nothing to support official statements that soldiers had "suffered from cases of suffocation" when rebels used poison gas "as a last resort" after government forces made "big gains" in the suburb of Jobar.

Chemical materials and gas masks purportedly found by Syrian government forces at a warehouse in Jobar, Damascus (24 August 2013) Syria's government said chemical materials used by rebels had been found

Opposition activists accuse forces supporting President Bashar al-Assad of killing between 500 and more than 1,000 civilians in several suburbs east and west of capital in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

They want the areas inspected by UN chemical weapons experts who are already in Damascus to investigate other suspected attacks.

Analysis

Out of the chaos and confusion of the past few days, several things have emerged clearly.

Even the regime itself and its closest allies, Russia and Iran, do not dispute that chemical weapons were used in the suburbs of Damascus on Wednesday. The evidence from a huge flow of distressing amateur video is too massive to dismiss.

Both Moscow and Tehran have said they are urging the Syrian authorities to co-operate with the UN chemical weapons inspectors already in Damascus, and the Iranian foreign minister has quoted his Syrian counterpart as saying the government is preparing the conditions for a site visit.

With combat continuing in the affected areas, there is clearly scope for prevarication and delay, although Western patience is short.

But at least an appearance of regime willingness to co-operate may for the moment let the US and its allies off the hook.

For one of the other elements that has become clearer than ever in the past few days is the great reluctance of US President Barack Obama and others to plunge into an embroilment that would be hard to get out of, and which would carry a very high risk of aggravating the situation even further.

The UN's disarmament chief, Angela Kane, arrived in Damascus on Saturday to press the authorities for access.

Iran's Irna state news agency reported that Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem had told his Iranian counterpart that Damascus was "co-operating" with the UN experts and "preparing the opportunity for them to visit areas which have been attacked chemically by terrorist groups".

'Gathering facts and evidence'

"The UN Security Council has called for immediate access for UN investigators on the ground in Damascus," Downing Street said in a statement.

"The fact that President Assad has failed to co-operate with the UN suggests that the regime has something to hide."

It said Mr Cameron and Mr Obama had "reiterated that significant use of chemical weapons would merit a serious response from the international community and both have tasked officials to examine all the options".

The statement said the two men had agreed it was "vital that the world upholds the prohibition on the use of chemical weapons and deters further outrages".

They would keep in "close contact", it added.

The US president earlier convened his National Security Council to discuss options on Syria.

US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel said the American military, which is repositioning naval forces in the Mediterranean, was ready to act.

Chuck Hagel: "President Obama has asked the defence department to prepare options for all contingencies"

"President Obama has asked the defence department to prepare options for all contingencies. We have done that and we are prepared to exercise whatever option - if he decides to employ one of those options," he told reporters in Kuala Lumpur.

BBC political correspondent Iain Watson said he understood that the "serious response" mentioned in the UK statement would not include "boots on the ground".

But a range of other options was not ruled out, he said, potentially including air strikes.

On Sunday, Iran's deputy armed forces chief, Massoud Jazayeri, warned the US against crossing the "red line" on Syria, saying it would have "severe consequences", according to the Fars news agency.

'Neurotoxic symptoms'

The medical charity Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) has said three hospitals it supports in the Damascus area had treated about 3,600 patients with "neurotoxic symptoms" early on Wednesday morning, of whom 355 have died.

While MSF said it could not "scientifically confirm" the use of chemical weapons, staff at the hospitals described a large number of patients arriving in the space of less than three hours with symptoms including convulsions, pinpoint pupils and breathing problems.

MSF director of operations Bart Janssens said the symptoms - as well as the "massive influx of patients in a short period of time" - strongly suggested mass exposure to a neurotoxic agent.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a UK-based activist group, meanwhile said it had documented the deaths of 322 people, including 82 women and 54 children.

On Sunday morning, several suburbs of Damascus reportedly came under heavy shell and mortar fire, as government forces continued their offensive on rebel strongholds.

At least 114 people were killed across the country on Saturday, including 33 people in the capital, according to the Local Co-ordination Committees, an opposition activist network.

The UN says more than 100,000 people have been killed since the uprising against President Assad began more than two years ago.

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'Chemical attack': What we know
Map showing the areas where the alleged chemical attacks took place in Syria
  • 01:15: 21 August (10:15 GMT 20 Aug): Facebook pages of Syrian opposition report heavy fighting in rebel-held eastern districts of the Ghouta, the agricultural belt around Damascus
  • 02:45: Opposition posts Facebook report of "chemical shelling" in Ein Tarma area of the Ghouta
  • 02:47: Second opposition report says chemical weapons used in Zamalka area of the Ghouta
  • Unverified video footage shows people being treated on pavements in the dark and in a makeshift hospital
  • Reports say chemical weapons were used in Ghouta towns of Irbin, Jobar, Zamalka and Ein Tarma as well as in Muadhamiya to the west, but this is not confirmed
  • Syrian government acknowledges military offensive in the Ghouta but denies chemical weapons use
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  • rate this
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    Comment number 1099.

    There's a deafening silence from the Arab League, whose problem this is primarily. It is not the UK's role to intervene militarily here, experience shows that this just generates anti UK fanaticism. Cameron has cut the UK forces to the bone, how many reserves would he need to call on for this conflict, and how much would he plan to spend that he hasn't got? COI veteran of both Iraq and Afghanistan

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1098.

    This is a moral dilemma.Those who say that it's nothing to do with us and we should stay out have a valid point.There is a problem in Syria but it doesn't affect us at all.We're in no danger.For us it isn't a physical problem;it's a moral and ethical problem.So I ask myself whether we should be discouraged from helping our fellow human beings for fear of cynical fanatics and tyrants?Shame on us.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1097.

    If the present government lost the next election and refused to give up power and used our police and our armed forces to remain in power, you would look to the rest of the world to help.

    How would you all feel if they said "Not our problem mate"

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1096.

    We never went to the east to stabilise it, we went to take away men who could not be bought out. Until they are replaced with NWO compatible leaders who sell oil on the cheap, we will always stick our noses in. There will always be talk of WMD's until we all sing the same song.

  • Comment number 1095.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1094.

    Many HYS on the Syrian issue all indicate that those posting are against military intervention. Will our Government respect public opinion? But what is behind the Syrian conflict. 2 competing pipelines covering all the players? I hope not. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-geopolitics-of-gas-and-the-syrian-crisis-syrian-opposition-armed-to-thwart-construction-of-iran-iraq-syria-gas-pipeline/5337452

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1093.

    Right now in the war rooms of the US, UK, and French governments, they are talking about you and me.They are asking themselves, "how can we fool these fools to get us to take Syria?"

    They have no standard that is too low. They will go as far as to kill children to get what they want.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1092.

    I do not see how our intervention now will have any effect - we should have done so earlier if we had the inclination. Frankly, we should stay out of it and provide humanitarian efforts and economic sanctions only. I would prefer for the Arabian league/countries to help sort out their problems at the first instance! As for the Greek bailout request - forget it - you had a few years to sort it.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1091.

    When I was in my high school (in Oriental), many young students went to streets to protest government’s power corruption. Both sides’ politicians used our innocence and naivety. Government ordered polices to spread red inks on us. Rebels purposely arranged women and students in the front-line to head-to-head crash with police. Mothers were worried about their kids' safety.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1090.

    1084.Billythefirst
    What are you talking about? Stop Swiss bashing. Do the Swiss invade and kill 3rd world people every decade? No. Do we? Yes. Do terrorists hate the Swiss? No. Do they hate us? Yes. Why is this?

    1077.Billythefirst
    We assisted the Nazis too, see comment 987. Are you ignoring that? Do you know who Maj Gen Smedley Butler is? Why is he important?

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1089.

    So, if a large group of us rallied outside Downing Street with arms at the ready, intent on overthrowing this useless government, Cameron would not set armed police/ armed forces against the group? He is no better that any despotic leader...

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1088.

    Given our failures (UK and USA) in Iraq and Afghanistan in creating stable and peaceful nations after rightly deposing tyrannical leaders I would like to see a body like the UN in charge of operations.

    Assad needs to be removed, the USA has the willing military capability, but there needs to be clear objectives to avoid a repeat of past failures.

    Not sure what the UK can offer given the MOD cuts

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1087.

    @1082
    You can be sure that Israeli is panicking.
    They will be calling their friends in the Republican party to get them to exert leverage over Obama.
    And the way to do this is through threatening to play hardball in the debt ceiling talks.
    Obama may be forced into entering the Syrian war as a quid pro quo to protect Obamacare and his other projects from the "pork" seeking senators.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1086.

    BBC - Why is this story not to found in the UK News Section and only in the US news section?

    This story has major implications for British citizens and public opinion on such matters should be clear for all to see and find.

    I always thought the BBC stood for the british people as a democracy and was not a bias pro British & US Government puppet. My views are changing.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1085.

    Its time our soldiers stopped getting killed over middle eastern issues.
    They need to get their own house in order and we need to stop trying to mould them. Look whats happening in Egypt, democracy for all of five minutes before the regime took over again.

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    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1083.

    US, UK, French governments pretending to be the heroes. Those of us who are not low information tools know the real score.

    These governments are guilty of this atrocity as well as many others.
    USA, the country that kills children with sarin and proud of it, but not proud enough to admit it.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1082.

    1078Again the nonsense theory Israel controls US policy.It's no secret Israel has tried to pressure the US to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons pointing out the US itself is a likely target for Iran.The US is "the great Satan" according to Iran's government.

    Israel has been preparing for nuclear war in the Mideast.If it's attacked with chemical weapons that red line will be crossed.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1081.

    BBC is dead to most in this country its too up the Governments Bottom!

    Must be a upper class thing!

    You would know what side they would be on in another Peasants revolt.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1080.

    1073.Jaker
    Hows is engaging in trade doing nothing?
    How is taking someone into your home doing nothing?
    How is donating some of your wage to those who do take someone into their home doing nothing?

    Do you know who are the Al-Nusra Front are?
    Why should they receive our support?
    Do you think it's moral to use force me to pay for your charity if necessary, is this not hypocritical of you morally?

 

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