Maternity leave: How common is Yvette Cooper's experience?

 
Generic pic of woman on phone Women on maternity leave are entitled to 10 Keeping in Touch days - but neither employee nor employer is obliged to make this happen

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Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper has revealed how she felt "cut off" from her job when she took maternity leave for the second time - is her experience typical?

For Denise, not her real name, the thought that she will soon have to go back to work fills her with dread.

The teacher worries about how her colleagues will treat her following her absence and she is concerned they won't understand or care about how she feels leaving her daughter for the first time.

And those fears have been compounded by the radio silence she has experienced since she left work.

"I tried to keep in touch but all communication was ignored," she says.

She texted colleagues after the baby was born but mostly received taut, single-sentence replies. She was also sent a card with the wrong baby name inside.

Yvette Cooper Yvette Cooper was the first UK minister to take maternity leave

"They didn't even tell me that one of my colleagues was leaving and a senior member of the team was signed off with stress. I guess they blamed me for the extra pressure," she says.

Denise describes the school where she teaches as having a highly pressurised environment and an ambitious ethos. It also has a high turnover of staff.

"Nothing will put me off having more children but this experience has killed any ambition I had to climb the ranks, and certainly any sense of duty I have to my department. If I get pregnant again quickly when I go back, so be it - it's been made very clear the department will go on without me."

'Cut off'

Denise was speaking after ex-Labour minister MP Yvette Cooper told how she felt "cut off" by Whitehall officials when she took maternity leave for a second time.

The mother-of-three described Communities Department staff as "very unsupportive" and said she had to "fight" to keep in touch with developments.

Maternity mentoring

In 2011, accounting firm Ernst and Young launched its maternity mentor scheme to increase retention rates of female staff following maternity leave.

The firm, named as one of the top 50 employers for women in a 2013 Times poll, now sees 95% of its female staff returning from maternity leave, compared with a national average of 77%.

The scheme is made up of four sessions which give managers and staff advice on coping with maternity leave.

In feedback following the sessions, employees said it had given them "greater motivation to continue my career" and "played an enormous part in me keeping my sanity and being successful in work on my return".

Other firms with similar schemes include supermarket chain Asda and Citibank.

Members of Parliament are not classed as employees so are not entitled to any specific provision for maternity leave.

But it appears they are not the only group to experience career difficulties when taking time off to have children.

In March, a poll suggested that one in seven of 1,000 women surveyed had lost their job while on maternity leave, while just under half reported a cut in hours or demotion. More than one tenth had been replaced in their jobs by the person who covered their leave.

Maternity discrimination lawyers Slater & Gordon, who commissioned the poll, said many women appeared not to know where to turn for help and thought even the act of seeking help would damage their career prospects.

It is against the law to dismiss or otherwise disadvantage an employee for a reason related to pregnancy or maternity leave.

But what are the rules around simply keeping in touch?

One often perpetuated myth is that employers are not allowed to contact employees while on maternity leave - however the Work and Families Act 2006 makes it clear that "reasonable contact" is allowed.

'Worthless'

So in effect, it is up to the two parties to work out the level of contact that they want to have.

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The vast majority of women would be pleased to let go of the ropes and the ties [of work] because it is supposed to be a special time spent with your baby”

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The employee is allowed 10 paid Keeping in Touch (Kit) days - where they can visit the office - although again, there is no obligation on either party to do this.

An employer could fall foul of sex discrimination laws if they do not alert the woman about potential promotions or reorganisations within the company.

And the Equality and Human Rights Commission says that, in particular, employers should keep in contact with an employee if they are at risk of being made redundant.

Claire, not her real name, felt she was "cut off" when she went on maternity leave from her government post, leaving her feeling "worthless". She later resigned.

She believes there needs to be monthly contact after an initial three months of grace for mother and baby.

"This could be done very informally via email or text or by pre-arranged phone call, or even letter," she says.

"It may even be nice to have another staff member make an informal home visit towards the end of the maternity leave just to bring the person returning to work up to speed with any changes and to check that their return is being managed satisfactorily."

What are you entitled to?

  • Employers should keep women informed of issues affecting them - such as promotion opportunities or job vacancies
  • The amount and type of contact between you and your employer must be reasonable
  • Contact can be made in any way that best suits, for example telephone, email, letter or visit
  • You can work for up to 10 days during maternity leave without it affecting maternity pay. These are Keeping in Touch (Kit) days.
  • You are under no obligation to work Kit days and your employer is under no obligation to offer them
  • Pay for Kit days, and the type of work done, is agreed between employer and employee

Source: Citizens' Advice Bureau

She says a "personal touch" is vital.

Slater & Gordon go a step further.

"Changes to the law to set out the obligations upon employers to communicate effectively with maternity leavers would give women greater clarity as to what information they should be receiving during their absence," says employment lawyer Kiran Daurka.

But Siobhan Freegard, founder of the Netmums website, says she believes the majority of women find it liberating to be away from work - and would find regular contact with the office stressful.

"The vast majority of women would be pleased to let go of the ropes and the ties [of work] because it is supposed to be a special time spent with your baby," she says.

Jo Swinson, Minister for Employment Relations, describes current arrangements for maternity leave as "old-fashioned and rigid".

She says that is why the government is introducing shared parental leave and pay, adding it is "committed to making sure that more businesses make the best use of women's talents throughout the organisation, from the shop floor to the boardroom".

"It will also allow women greater flexibility to return to work earlier if they wish, reducing the impact of pregnancy on women's careers," she says.

 

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  • rate this
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    Comment number 516.

    515 Andrew

    And if the baby who pays your pension is not born , nobody pays your pension .

    Human civilisation relies on young supporting the old , get over it .

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    Comment number 515.

    447: For the umpteenth time: the baby who pays my pension will one day claim a pension: the child-free are not creating a payer but nor are they creating a taker. It works out in the long run. In the short run we all ahve our own lives to lead.

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    Comment number 514.

    @512: It works both ways though - there has to be a bit of give and take on both sides for it to work and to benefit society as a whole.
    @502: If all women stayed at home, the current system would be even more unsustainable than it's already becoming. Instead of feeling smug about their choices, stay-at-home mothers should consider what it is that enables them to do that in the first place.

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    Comment number 513.

    474: There are cases like those 470 mentions; not perhaps many but it happens. And it's not fair to employers or colleagues.

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    Comment number 512.

    We live in a very uncaring and selfish country with an I am allright Jack attitude.
    It makes me smile when I watch the new year celebrations those people are all so false.
    This attitude starts at the very top and is passed down to the very bottom.
    I have lived through 4 Tory Governments and every time people struggle and thus become more and more selfish. It is a never ending circle with no fix.

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    Comment number 511.

    Can I just paraphrase Yvette Cooper. "Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me"

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    Comment number 510.

    495.therevolution666

    Presumably the "mad" idea of a state that realises you need babies for the country's continued existence & helping the hard working woman-to-be-mothers of the country is a good way to encourage both procreation & bonding with the child as well as incentive to continue working afterwards in case of future children.

    Perhaps you can get your "year off" to care for an orphan?

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    Comment number 509.

    I was made redundant whilst on maternity leave in 2009, and so were the other 3 ladies who also chose to have children at the same time. It has also happened to friends of mine. Employers know they can get away with it if they offer a decent pay off. This country isn't making the most of the bright, educated women who want (but are unable) to work.

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    Comment number 508.

    Isn't the tone of this article indicative of new, particularly first time, parents who are so gushing with their new creation but don't understand why nobody else gives a hoot?

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    Comment number 507.

    I was astonished and relieved to read the results of the March poll. I was replaced by twice by people who covered my job whilst I was on maternity leave in 1994 and 1996. This was in contrast to when i had my first child in 1992 when i went back to work while recovering from a c section.I had always somehow blamed myself for being bad. Thank you for this story, now I know it's not just me!

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    Comment number 506.

    Moderators! Look! Comment 505. A great example of what I was talking about.

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    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 504.

    They say people start to look like their pets. Yvette is starting to look as thuggish as her husband.

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    Comment number 501.

    We can but disagree and go by our own experiences.

    The system is what it is and I'd rather people put the effort into making it easier to return to work than stay at home and ending up costing more through the benifit system.

    On the note I'm off as I will need to get up early to start a full working day whilst having a child - must be a novel thing to hear for some of you ;)

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    Comment number 499.

    re:497 no you wrong thrill_vermilion's experience sounds pretty much typical, parents and especially mother's get preferential treatment in most workplaces i've worked in and i've worked in a few and i've talked this through with a variety of different people who all agree with me.

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    Comment number 498.

    @ 487.Bar15

    "Nowadays it is not possible for (a new mum to stay at home)"

    You're wrong. It's perfectly possible if you're willing to sacrifice a few things for a few years. The problem is you still want your luxuries and perks. Is it really too much to expect parents to put their children's needs before their own?

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    Comment number 497.

    490.thrill_vermilion
    Your experience sounds very different to the work places I know, and it sounds like it's not being managed very well if the company allows this to happen.
    Mum's are not untouchable and should work within the rules just like anyone else, if the company doesn't enforce it that's an issue they are causing for themselves and the other workers left to pick up the load.

 

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