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First ever elections for police commissioners

Here's my report on fears of a low tour-out for the first-ever elections for police commissioners. My question to would-be voters: "Are you excited about the PCC vote?"

With less than a month to go before the first ever elections for police commissioners in England and Wales, there is still some concern that poor publicity will lead to a low turnout. They will be elected on 15 November and replace police authorities in each force area in England and Wales, making police directly accountable to voters.

 
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  • rate this
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    Comment number 24.

    The Electoral Reform Society predict a turn-out of 18.5% for the Police and Crime Commissioners vote (see their website), the lowest voter turnout in modern times.

    That figure of 18.5% is the national average, so presumably in some areas it will be lower still. At what point is participation so low that no democratic mandate can be legitimately be claimed? We may be about to find out.

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    Comment number 23.

    For the first time in my life I will not be voting in an election. I don't want police commissioners and the only way that I can express my view on this is by participating in the low turnout.

    I say to everybody reading this:

    Don't want commissioners? = DON'T VOTE.

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    Comment number 22.

    Not sure that the disinterest is due to a lack of publicity.

    There are plenty of people who know about these elections, but still aren't interested.

    (18 makes a valid point I've mentioned previously - all of these low turnout local elections give a risk of relatively small numbers of organised people taking control - particularly if high levels of postal votes are present.)

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    Comment number 21.

    In so much as HYS can be seen as representative of the UK population at large (it can't be very much - self selecting samples are never that accyrate) it seems that few even know about it, less care & a majority of those that do vote will spoil their paper of vote for anyone but a majory party candidate......yet an expensive omnishambles of a diaster looms for the Coalition.....

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    Comment number 20.

    20 I disapprove of the entire process not simply party political involvement - were it just party political involvement in a process I agreed with I would look for an independent worth voing for.
    Independents also have their own axes to grind in many cases more so sometimes.

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    Comment number 19.

    @17. Whistling Neil

    I encourage everyone to vote : write in: NOT WANTED : Spoil your ballots indicating your disapproval of the process.

    Not voting says nothing - if spoiled ballots outnumber the winners tally their mandate is obviously false and simply not voting says nothing.

    --

    It won't happen and the the powers that be won't care.

    If you want to send a message vote for an independent.

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    Comment number 18.

    When I think of locally elected Police Chiefs I think of Selma Alabama in the 1960's where whips were used on black schoolkids, and blacks attempting to register to vote. Look it up! Of Police in 1920-30s Germany who wre controlled by Local Politics, and stood back as the Nazis committed crimes of assault on opposition. The danger now is minority Poltical and Religious groups controlling Police.

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    Comment number 17.

    I encourage everyone to vote : write in: NOT WANTED : Spoil your ballots indicating your disapproval of the process.

    Not voting says nothing - if spoiled ballots outnumber the winners tally their mandate is obviously false and simply not voting says nothing.

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    Comment number 16.

    "Are you excited about the PCC vote?"

    I'm never excited about any election but I will cast my vote all the same.

    There are plenty on independents to chose from so maybe if everyone went out and voted for them it may send a message to the political parties but then I suppose apathy will prevail as usual.

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    Comment number 15.

    This is one of those decisions that cannot be judged until aftr the first election. Will the newly elected do better or worse than their predecessors. It seems there is little interest by the public, which probably means citizens do not expect things to change very much either way, but because the police are the public and vice versa, I really do expect things to be better.

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    Comment number 14.

    How much are these elected Comissioners going to cost in advisors?

    Most, if not all, will not be legal professionals so will need at least one legal advisor then there'll be their polictical advisor(s) too.......

    .....complete waste of time & money & a potentially dangerous one at that.....

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    Comment number 13.

    I have better things to do thatn vote for this

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    Comment number 12.

    I'll be voting and spoiling my ballot as the only way to say I do care and that I think it is disgraceful to politicse the day to day operational proceedures of the Police......regardless of whether it's left, right or some other strand of politics......

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    Comment number 11.

    When I think of elected Police Chiefs I think of Sherriff Clark of Selma Alabama, who set dogs on Black kids going to school, and Bull Conner the Administrational overseer of the Police, (Recognise the parallels with PCC) who assisted the racist movements. The Police Chiefs in Weimar Germany were locally elected, they turned a blind eye to Nazi crimes. Will we get BNP or Sharia law in the UK?

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    Comment number 10.

    In Hampshire 7 elected local councellors will be replaced by 1 Politically chosen placeman. AT present the selection panel for Chief Constable consists of around 17, it will soon be one person. The deposit to stand is £5000 to exclude real people,only Parties can afford to stand. The elected commissioner is NOT a democratic option, and has very great dangers for the future of freedom.

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    Comment number 9.

    ISnt it about time we stopped voting for every single person who has to be in power and started making those in power more accountable when things go round, Great we get to vote but then when things go wrong we're stuck with them for 5 years and have no chance of getting them out because WE voted. Get to work and stop wasting so much time and money on stupid political power elections of this kind

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    Comment number 8.

    "And a low turnout will increase the chance of a lunatic being elected."

    Turnout of 65% every election hasn't stopped lunatics getting into government. Can't image any police commissioner could be worse at their job than someone like Osborne.

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    Comment number 7.

    They're worried the turnout will be below 20%?....it will be nowhere near that high.
    Look how few comments there are on here, and you might realise how little the public know or care about this stupid idea.
    All these appointments will do is create a manure shield for the Home Secretary, and further politicise the Police. And a low turnout will increase the chance of a lunatic being elected.

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    Comment number 6.

    I too am against "party-politicising" the appointment of PCCs, as many MPs were when they debated the idea originally in Parliament. But the parties couldn't resist the chance to grab more power and influence for themselves locally.

    So let's demonstrate voter power. Most areas have at least one credible Independent candidate, so I suggest that you cast your vote for them, not the party hacks.

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    Comment number 5.

    So it is/was meant to be apolitical and surprise surprise the candidates are all members of political parties and some former MPs who have lost their seat. So back to the old days when political parties "punished" counties when they did not tow the government line.
    What happened to the process not having a political side to it. It will effectively be run by the few.

 

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