Theresa May defends police relationship after heckles


Home Secretary Theresa May: "Let's stop pretending the police are being picked on"

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Home Secretary Theresa May has denied her relationship with the police is beyond repair after she was heckled at the Police Federation conference.

She used her speech to rank and file officers to justify budget cuts of 20% in England and Wales, and some of the most radical reforms in 30 years.

Mrs May said police needed to "share" in government austerity measures but said change was in forces' interest.

She told the BBC it was right to stick to the "challenging" plans.

"I've told the federation conference as it is - which is that as a government we do have to deal with the deficit, and that means that policing has to take its share of the cuts," Mrs May said in an interview with the BBC's James Landale.

"It is necessary for us to look at this, for the good of policing for the future, and looking at how we can ensure police officers are able to do the job they and the public want them to do."

Some officers held up placards reading "enough is enough" as Mrs May came on stage and she was heckled during the question and answer session that followed.

BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw tweeted that the home secretary had apparently been reluctant to be photographed or filmed directly in front of a sign on stage saying "20% cuts are criminal".

Mrs May, who went on to give her speech to one side of the sign, said afterwards: "It's not a view that I agree with, it's the view that the Police Federation has put forward."

She was clear that police forces needed to explore the idea that some roles were suited to private sector contracting, but denied she was responsible for creeping privatisation.

The home secretary said: "Well, I've been very clear about where the line is drawn today, the picture that the Police Federation have put out today is not one that I recognise, and it is not one that is going to occur.

"But it is right that police forces, in looking at their budgets, should say are there some things we do where it would be better for the private sector to do them."

The federation is unhappy with the government's proposed radical overhaul of pay and conditions, and a challenge to the existing model of policing with the privatisation of an increasing number of jobs.

At the scene

There was a time when a Conservative home secretary would get a standing ovation at the Police Federation conference. Willie Whitelaw and Michael Howard were favourites.

That's changed. From the moment officers stood up and held banners saying "Enough is Enough" to the booing and shouts of "resign" as she left the hall, it was clear this relationship is badly broken.

Although officers listened to her speech respectfully, feelings spilled over during questions.

Mrs May was jeered, heckled and, most embarrassing for her, made the subject of a joke by federation chairman Paul McKeever.

He asked people to raise their hands if they thought the Winsor report on police reform was truly independent. When Mr McKeever pointed out no-one had done so - not even the home secretary - it brought the house down. Mrs May sat stoney-faced.

It was an uncomfortable experience for her but with the police facing further cuts there may be more to come.

In her speech, Mrs May reassured officers that crime fighting duties would not be taken on by the private sector.

She told the Bournemouth conference: "It will only ever be police officers who make arrests; it will only ever be police officers who lead investigations; and it will only ever be police officers who direct policing operations."

But she added: "It's my job to do what is right for policing and right for the country and it's my job to reform policing so that it's fit to face the future.

"Less paperwork, more police work. More power for the public, less power for the bureaucrats and freeing the best police officers in the world to fight crime."

Officers needed to "stop pretending" they were being "picked on", she added. "Every part of the public sector is having to take its share of the pain."

Cheers and applause broke out in the question and answer session as one federation member, Dave Bennett, challenged Mrs May over the proposed pay cuts for new officers and told her: "Home secretary, I believe you are a disgrace".

In his address, Police Federation chairman Paul McKeever said the home secretary was "on the precipice of destroying" a police service admired throughout the world.

He told the conference: "We are about to go through some fundamental change that will alter policing for ever."

"This is a bad deal for police officers, it's a bad deal for the service and most of all it's a bad deal for the British public."

Mr McKeever added that proposed wage cuts were "over and above" other public sector workers and "palpably unfair".

And he cautioned against cutting more officers.

"The reality is the only thing you're going to get more of with less by 20% is more crime, more anti-social behaviour, and more disorder."

Sam Roberts from North Wales Police asked Mrs May if she had ever told a parent that their child had died

A review by former rail regulator Tom Winsor proposed a fundamental shift in how the police are paid - awarding the officers who are taking the greatest risks in front line jobs, while cutting payments and allowances.

It also suggested ending retirement after 30 years service and said potential high achievers should be allowed to enter at inspector level, rather than rise through the ranks.

Mrs May said police would remain the best paid of emergency services but the right to strike in future was "off the table" because "keeping our communities safe is simply too important".

She also announced she would extend police powers to enable officers to prosecute traffic offences where the defendant does not enter a plea or turn up at court. An announcement will also be made in the summer on powers that will give forces further powers "to prosecute a wider range of low-level offences".

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    Comment number 682.

    673 couldn't agree more, but what is the way to change the rules made by the rule makers that affect one and the same.

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    Comment number 681.

    The "logic" of police "sharing" cuts is hopelessly naive. Surely when everyone else is subjected to these pressures, this is the time to INCREASE funding to the police to maintain law and order with an increasingly impoverished and dissatisfied public? And how can increases to police powers reconcile with reduced police budget - where will they find the time to use these new powers exactly?!

  • rate this

    Comment number 680.

    of course the public should be concerned by the 26000 less police officers

    but what are the Police Federation really concerned about?


    Each officer pays £21.58 per month membership to the Federation - thats £258 per year each - loosing 26000 officers will reduce the Federation income by £6.73m per year - now that in a concern for the Federation

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    Comment number 679.

    Though I sympathise with the drop in police numbers.
    The Armed forces numbers have fell progressively since 1990:
    In 2009 UK service and UK civilian personnel total was 277,780 and still falling.
    For comparison: Total Service and Civilian Personnel Strength (1 April 1990) stood at 447,100.
    Good luck with your fight against the cuts.

  • Comment number 678.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 677.

    Who told you we'd run out of money?

    HS2 and Trident and US war support and Irish bank donations and commitments to IMF loans all demonstrate the fallacy.

    A real problem that would make a substantial difference is to stop tax scamming by those with more money than morals and Corporations who are screwing the system.

  • rate this

    Comment number 676.

    marxists or communists

    Put your tin hat on and hide under the table, that'll keep you safe ;)

  • rate this

    Comment number 675.

    What a huge surprise the police are against any cuts to their pay/pensions/numbers. Just like yesterday nurses are also against any cuts/reforms and before them it was teachers.

    They might all say its about protecting the public but really its about their own pockets.

    What is the next shocking news story? Turkeys don't like Christmas?

    We have run out of money so we have to spend less.

  • rate this

    Comment number 674.

    Looks like I'm not the only one who is starting to get genuinely scared by this government.

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    Comment number 673.

    Stop attributing money to performance. The amount of money being thrown at all of these ineffective public services in this country employing millions is madness. The issue to be angry about is lack of reform, not cuts. Our NHS is the 4th largest employer in the world and it ranks terribly. We have more police than anywhere in Europe and they looked a toothless mockery from the riots. Reform!

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    Comment number 672.

    637 Juliet50,I could not agree with you more.I don't want my taxes being squandered on over payed public servants,let's have a referendum let the public decide how much public servants should be payed and when they should retire,or is that to much like actual democracy?

  • rate this

    Comment number 671.

    656. rg19700

    The alternative to cutting is to raise tax revenues surely? If the wealthiest among us paid 70% tax they would still earn in a year what most of us earn in a lifetime
    Of course Gideon is going too cut down on aggressive tax avoidance like this :

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    Comment number 670.

    General rule of thumb is, don't mess with paramedics, hospitals, fire brigade and police! These are front line services we can't live without!
    Also, could someone explain how hiring private sector contractors actually works? Hw does that sort of service gain profit? Are they contracted thru gov budget? Or paid by someone else? If its thru gov, then they'll pay rubbish and few to make profit surely

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    Comment number 669.

    Being a Policeman is a difficult job.Being a Home Secretary is a difficult job.
    Could we please have a vote on who has the easiest job?
    Or is that an awkward question that should never be asked?
    Would any Policeman have any problem with that questiion?
    Seems strange that difficult jobs means cuts,cuts and cuts.
    Always provided that cuts do not apply to Politicians...

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    Comment number 668.

    The Tories used police to bash Unions in the past and now that job's done, they have turned on the force that done their bidding. I fear this is going to lead to privatization of the police force to swell the coffers of multi-millionaires and this isn't about austerity at all. I can't say that I am surprised by the Tories carving up another service. I am totally disgusted.

  • rate this

    Comment number 667.

    Strangely, I can't stop humming "Land of confusion" by Genesis.

    I wonder why.

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    Comment number 666.

    Re 410: I remember our Brave Boys in Blue standing idly by, watching people's homes and business go up in flames - to cowardly or stupid to do the job they're paid for. I remember them shooting dead unarmed men in tube trains. I remember them beating miners senseless. I remember them lying in court to protect their own, whilst watching innocent men go to prison. I remember Rochdale's little girls.

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    Comment number 665.

    Usual union inspired tosh.

    When will they realise that after 3 terms in power they ruined the UK economy each and every time by overspending.

    Many of these union leaders were once active marxists or communists, so how often do they need to fail until they admit they are wrong?

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    Comment number 664.

    I feel the Tory contributors on here have learned nothing from Billy Bragg.....

    On the contrary.
    That well-known socialist Billy Bragg lives in Dorset (a lovely idyllic part of the world) in a large house overlooking the sea and appears to have done very well from his efforts.
    Truly a model for any aspirational Tory.

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    Comment number 663.

    Theresa May as the Home Secretary may be inept, poorly organised, blames everyone else for her failings as a minister but the policies she is pursuing are Cameron & co's. Even if she is fired, resigns the Tory's will continue their slash and burn of the police force. The only logical step is for the police officers to vote for the right to strike. They will have to make a stand and soon.


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