Baha Mousa inquiry: soldier's diary

 

The inquiry into the death of Iraqi detainee Baha Mousa heard extracts from a diary kept by Private Stuart MacKenzie, of the Queen's Lancashire Regiment, while on tour in Iraq. Private MacKenzie was one of the soldiers guarding Mr Mousa.

Warning: contains strong language

8 July 2003

"Out to vehicle check point, vehicle VCP. Found five SMGs British issue and Nine millimetre pistol and mags. Arrest perp [short for perpetrator] and take car. Hostage beaten up. Broken wrist, concussion, sore bollocks."

18th July 2.30pm

"Crushing jerrycans at another petrol station. A big Iraqi punched Mr Rodgers and got filled in immediately by about 10 of us. He was bleeding from his head, face and ears. He was battered from head to toe, so we let him go instead of arresting him."

24 July

Still on QRF. Called out about 12pm, Ali Baba stealing steel rods from outside camp. Chased them. Asp and Benny swam the sewer to catch him. One warning shot fired by Redders. Man caught and roughed up. Head under water. He's going to be ill. Taken to cop-shop. Finished at 7 pm, off now till 1pm Friday. Wicked."

11/12 September

"Found 3 Ali Babas at WTP7, beat them up with sticks, filmed it. Good day so far."

"Nothing much happened. House raid for hours, nothing found. Caught 3 Ali Babas, beat fuck out of them on back of Saxon. 1 had a punctured lung, broken ribs, fingers, 1 had dislocated shoulder and broken fingers."

 

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    Comment number 44.

    these stories make for sad reading,and i am sure they only apply to a tiny number of our soldiers;call me old fashioned,but i still believe our servicemen are the best in the world,not just in what they do,but also in what they do not do...officers and n.c.o.s please take note...

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    Comment number 43.

    Heads should roll as a result of this. General Sir Peter Wall bears ultimate responsibility and should be dismissed. If they are serious. If not, guess what, another cover-up.

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    Comment number 42.

    Dont tar all soldiers with the same brush - are all care home workers abusive, with regard to the panorama programme a few months ago might suggest.
    Further, in regard to the comment about Ali Baba being a racist term, it was actually an iraqi slang term for thieves. Nothing racist or disgusting about it.

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    Comment number 41.

    Gillian, if the army waas as you suggest then there would be a LOT more than one person beaten to death on a regular basis.
    In reality, very very few soldiers would actively condone or participate in such acts.
    In my 6 months in iraq in 2005, we were regularly reminded of the rules to adhere to, and were in no uncertan terms reminded what might happen if we broke those rules.

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    Comment number 39.

    I lived under British Army rule in Northern Ireland for over twenty years. I am not a republican, or loyalist but I have seen the soldiers of the British army slaughter innocent civilians in Derry. I have personally witnessed beatings of youths who were suspected of stonethrowing. Armies are trained to kill, maim and suppress. Is anyone surprised at their behaviour?

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    Comment number 38.

    All military personel are trained from the beginning to abuse others,having been abused themselves during their training and taught that any feelings of compassion are weaknesses. They are explicitly trained to bring out the killer in their personalities and to disregard any feelings for what is perceived as the enemy. Otherwiuse how could they be an efficient fighting machine?
    Gill Hearn

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    Comment number 36.

    Terrible, but the wider story is that neither Adam Ingram nor an unnamed 4 star general could state the rules that the Army were operating under at that time with regard to prisoner handling. I'm not condoning the behaviour of the soldiers but its more important to identify those to blame for the culture that permitted these offences. Cost of training soldiers and employing them as policemen?

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    Comment number 35.

    I wonder why we have people who grow up who want to do harm to us ! Words Like Freedom and Democracy are not worth the Bullets and Boots they are written on today...

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    Comment number 34.

    We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
    But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
    An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
    Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;

    Not a lot of change since 1892. Danny Deever lives on.

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    Comment number 33.

    I am shocked at this. With the recent riots together with this awful treatment of humanity, it is clear to me that the UK has become a cess-pit of violent culture and depravity.

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    Comment number 32.

    I know its not everyone, I understand that need's be where need's must, but dead people cannot give information to anyone! or am I missing something? This was just plain barbaric and I am sorry that it happened. Now start being real men and find a way to get information that is needed without killing or gross cruelty ... how hard can it be? Find a way!

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    Comment number 31.

    Steve there is nothing honorouble in any war we engage in over in the middle east. I feel i may have let my emotions take over as it was difficult to ever do the right thing out there and it seems this country is quick to judge.things that went on were authorised by rank, we did it because we were told to and to think that commanders did not know what was happening is so wrong.

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    Comment number 30.

    Steve, read my post below yours. Terrorists and Taliban are not the issue here - we are talking about IRAQ, not Afghanistan

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    Comment number 29.

    When i was in the Army i met the best and some of the worst people i ever knew. I feel that every army has a few sadistic psychopaths by the nature of it's work. When a few of these get together under poor or weak leadership this kind of thing happens and brings disgrace on the majority of the forces who are brave , compassionate and quite admirable. Punish the culprits and sling them out.

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    Comment number 28.

    Sadly there is nothing to be proud of with these (now ex?) soldiers.

    But lets make the right distinction and support those who fight terrorists, Taliban and other dangers to the civilised public in an honorouble manner.
    However this only works if the army cleans up their own ranks thoroughly.

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    Comment number 27.

    Truly appalling, but also are people forgetting the context here? There were no WMD, Iraq was no threat to the UK whatsoever so what on earth were these so-called 'soldiers' doing rounding up these Iraqis anyway?

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    Comment number 25.

    SHOCKLEADER
    What i mean is that having served myself and completed 3 tours I have seen a lot of complaining and commenting from other branches that spent nearly all of their tour sunbathing and drinking whilst we did the real work. it was even a joke amongst them when we went out to fight they waved us off with cans of fosters laughing, when information is needed then we do what needs to be done.

 

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