Riots: Tony Blair warning over 'disaffected youth'

 
Tony Blair Tony Blair said the country as a whole was not in a 'moral decline'

The "big" cause of the riots in England was "alienated, disaffected youth... outside the social mainstream," former Prime Minister Tony Blair has said.

Writing in the Observer, he warned that "muddle-headed analysis" of the riots may result in wrong policy responses.

Mr Blair also dismissed claims the UK was in the grip of a "moral decline".

In the Sunday Express, PM David Cameron pledged a fightback against the "bureaucratic nonsense and destructive culture" which led to current problems.

'No moral decline'

In rare comments on British politics since standing down as prime minister in 2007, Mr Blair said the riots were "an absolutely specific problem that requires a deeply specific solution" by politicians.

He pointed to a group of people "outside the social mainstream and who live in a culture at odds with any canons of proper behaviour".

"Focus on the specific problem and we can begin on a proper solution," he wrote.

"Elevate this into a highfalutin wail about a Britain that has lost its way morally and we will depress ourselves unnecessarily, trash our own reputation abroad, and worst of all, miss the chance to deal with the problem in the only way that will work."

Analysis

Some people have referred to the rioters as "Blair's children" but the former prime minister is certainly not taking the blame for any "broken Britain".

In contrast to David Cameron, Mr Blair does not see the riots as the symptom of society at large. He says what's required is a "deeply specific solution".

In some respects though, Mr Blair's analysis seems pretty similar to Mr Cameron's. Mr Blair writes about the "alienated, disaffected youth who are outside the social mainstream."

Mr Cameron pointed to the same group when he identified the 120,000 "most troubled" families that the government would be targeting.

Revealingly, Mr Blair admits that he used "highfalutin" language about a moral breakdown himself, following the murder of the toddler Jamie Bulger. "It was good politics" he says, "but bad policy".

He added that politicians' responses to the four days of rioting and looting created a danger of the "wrong analysis leading to the wrong diagnosis, leading to the wrong prescription".

He went on to say: "The key is to understand that they aren't symptomatic of society at large. Failure to get this leads to a completely muddle-headed analysis of what has gone wrong. Britain as a whole is not in the grip of some general 'moral decline'.

"The truth is that many of these people are from families that are profoundly dysfunctional, operating on completely different terms from the rest of society, either middle class or poor.

"This is a phenomenon of the late 20th Century. You find it in virtually every developed nation."

Bulger case

He also said that, following the murder of two-year-old Jamie Bulger in 1993, he had "made a case in very similar terms to the one being heard today about moral breakdown in Britain.

"I now believe that speech was good politics but bad policy."

Mr Blair said that, in relation to the rioting and looting, it was essential that the police felt they had the backing of the government.

"The police need to know they have strong support. They need to feel it from politicians and public alike."

He also said that towards the end of his term in office he realised that society needed an "intervention family by family, a reform of criminal justice around anti-social behaviour, organised crime, persistent offenders and gangs".

He said those ideas were not carried out after he left office.

Mr Blair said: "The agenda that came out of this was conceived in my last years of office, but it had to be attempted against a constant backdrop of opposition, left and right, on civil liberty grounds and on the basis we were 'stigmatising' young people.

"After I'd left the agenda lost momentum. But the papers and the work are all there."

Police presence

But in the Sunday Express, Mr Cameron bemoans the culture that has led to the "twisting and misrepresenting of human rights".

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We need a stronger police presence on the streets, deterring crime and catching criminals instead of filling in forms or wasting time on phoney targets”

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He writes: "There are deep problems in our society that have been growing for a long time: a decline in responsibility, a rise in selfishness, a growing sense that individual rights come before anything else.

"So though it won't be easy, though it will mean taking on parts of the establishment, I am determined we get a grip on the misrepresentation of human rights."

Mr Cameron said the government was looking at creating a British Bill of Rights and would attempt to change the way the European Court functions.

He said a planned scheme for National Citizen Service, a non-military and voluntary scheme available for teenagers after they finish their GCSE exams, would be expanded in the wake of the riots.

This would see youths involved in projects that benefit the community such as sports coaching or helping the elderly.

The prime minister also said that his commitment to tackling the "greed and thuggery" seen during the riots and episodes of looting would be backed up by "the full force of the law".

"We need a stronger police presence on the streets, deterring crime and catching criminals instead of filling in forms or wasting time on phoney targets," he said.

 

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  • rate this
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    Comment number 369.

    At last someone talking sense, and not the artless rhetoric of Cameron.

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    Comment number 368.

    Reading these comments is depressing beyond belief - when will people stop blaming immigrants and accept that this issue is down to economics and not race. We cannot keep turning a blind eye to an uneducated, disaffected underclass and hope they'll just stay on their estates while we go about our happy little consumer lives. This problem is bigger than petty left wing/right wing point scoring...

  • rate this
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    Comment number 367.

    They make me sick-my rural families had no benefits, no help, many left school at 14. They worked, men and women, in the fields for long hard hours. They scrimped saved read and hauled themselves up-only to find they are getting a tiny state pension and paying tax on their savings, tax on any income and council tax to help whining, law breaking communities who think we owe them a living.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 366.

    Typical of yesterday's man. Blair says he realised there was a problem just before he left office; did it crop up a day or two before he stepped down? No. It was fed and nurtured all the time he was PM. The rest of his writing is more plagiarism than original thoughts; he seems to be echoing David Cameron in many respects. I don't know why I'm surprised, the socialists seldom have original ideas.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 365.

    Whether you buy a stolen TV or have a £3k duck house made with taxpayers money, it is still theft. When the new laws are made, make sure they apply to everyone. I don't endorse the riots as they were wrong, as was the MP expense scandal.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 364.

    Tony Blair warning !!!
    What contempt this man must have for the goy masses
    Mass immigration ( policy decision )
    Illegals wars
    Soviet style P.C mind control
    Became stinking rich through his dealings
    I disliked M. Foots politics but at least he came over a a sincere ( but err eccentric ) man
    Blair was, and is just a circus sideshow glitzer, hot are, insincerity, greed, and double speak !

  • rate this
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    Comment number 363.

    Why do politicians need to speculate rather than ensure that there is sound data which can be analysed by them as well as reviewed by the media? How many of those arrested: belong to gangs? have few qualifications? attend school? come from jobless households? come from broken homes? What proportion of those who were rioting have been arrested? The media should publish data not comments!

  • rate this
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    Comment number 362.

    Blair states the British reaction to recent riots could “trash our own reputation abroad”.
    Eh, you did that single-handled when you invaded Iraq, Tony.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 361.

    I dont trust any of them! There is a theme that when the tories come into power there are riots. For me the tories make young and poorer families feel so disconnected. I am a low earner and I feel worried about what effect the tories will have on my family. I have a real dislike for Cameron - he has lead a privalidged life and he will ultimately look after his own.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 360.

    I agree with David Cameraon insomuch as there has been a twisitng and misrepresentation of human rights which overshadowed the Police behaviour during the riots. However, from my understanding, The Human Rights Act still leaves a degree of flexibility with the courts in its interpretation and is arguably not yet enshrined in the UK as in the US for example.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 359.

    Left school in 1980 at 16, a year after Thatcher the despatcher took power. Hit mid thirties before I experienced my first change of government as a working adult, then 13 yrs of them. The last election the British people decided none deserved the mandate to rule, so we ended up with two of them, one having sold its soul to achieve its aim. Democracy did not fail us, without us first failing it.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 358.

    Well he should know the what & why !! I suppose we are lucky he hasn't offered to come back and put everything to rights. I believe a suitable quote "More neck than a pit of snakes"!

  • rate this
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    Comment number 357.

    Thatcher started it but Blair and Brown are the real culprits. What these areas needed was mass unskilled work-but those jobs are now all in China so that NuLabour could keep the country feeling wealthy on cheap imports. No discipline allowed in schools, minorities allowed to believe they are disadvantaged, no jobs to keep people accountable and part of the system. No wonder the country is a mess.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 356.

    The problem is all of us. Membership of political parties are on the decline. Less than 1% of the population are involved in choosing the people we can vote for in elections. Elections are not the voice of the people. Choice is not voice.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 355.

    It worry's me to see the neo tory responces from previous comments. I didn't see them making such sweeping statements regarding the lack of Moral subtance our politicians showed when claiming tax payers money for home improvements, or at the almost criminal manner in which the financial industry has bought the alleged 'Free Market' to its knees. I have rarely agreed with Blair, I do this time

  • rate this
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    Comment number 354.

    Maybe we have lost sight of history!
    Didn't we place the emphasis on the self during the Margaret Thatcher years rather than collective responsibility.
    Hasn't this now come back to haunt us through the Thatcher childrens children during these riots!
    NEETS are in all societies and hsitorically have been for centuries.
    There is no quick cure to this issue just another case of social engineering.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 353.

    This sucks. We saw more moral decline under Blair than in any similar period I can remember in my 60+ years on this planet. This nation needs to regain it's self-respect; not the self-love that was Blair's trademark.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 352.

    These rioters come from communities which have been indulged, had grievances allowed to fester instead of being given a sharp slap and have a chip on their shoulders. They all think they are hard done by but have no idea how hard earlier generations worked nor how deprived they were. They are isolated, insular, feed off their own cultural grape vine and have tax payers money chucked at them.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 351.

    I have to agree with the majority of posters on this thread, the issues are indeed complex,and they need addressing for the benefit of everyone, but Blair's comments which sound perfectly reasonable almost smack of 'I told you so and it's not my fault it's Gordons' sets my teeth on edge.

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    Comment number 350.

    326 That's absolutely spot-on!

 

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