Historian David Starkey's riot comments spark anger

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David Starkey caused controversy on Newsnight on Friday when he said that the "whites have become black".

Some commentators have described it as a career ending moment but is he right?

Jerry Hayes, a barrister and former Conservative MP, tells Radio 5 live Breakfast that he has a point while former teacher Katherine Birbalsingh, who famously said that the state education system was "broken", thinks he is wrong.

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