Of fake customers and virtual 'likes'

Screenshot of VirtualBagel's Facebook page

My virtual bagels certainly started some real conversations. Our story questioning the value of "likes" on Facebook pages, and the contribution ads could make, got a lot of reaction - much of it cries of rage from the social media marketing industry.

They pointed out - fairly enough - that my ad for my imaginary business VirtualBagel was poorly targeted. That may be true, although when I targeted it more precisely at the UK, the results proved very disappointing. And is poor targeting by advertisers any justification for getting them to pay for traffic from thousands of fake customers?

Small businesses that have tried Facebook ads have been telling me of somewhat lacklustre results. One beer retailer who targeted his adverts carefully at UK beer lovers quickly got 600 new "likes", only to find that they were then completely inactive on his own website. "Like 600 wooden soldiers," he told me.

But the social media marketing industry was also united in telling me that chasing after "likes" was no longer considered best practice. On another blog, someone came up with this line: "Any marketing director still chasing "'likes'... shouldn't be a marketing director."

That message does not seem to have reached some major brands. Look at the Facebook page for BMW's Mini. A banner across the top trumpets: "3,000,000! Thanks to all our Mini Facebook fans!"

But look at where those "likes" come from - the Mini page is most popular amongst 18- to 24-year-olds in Bangkok. Is that the campaign's target demographic?

And who told brands that "likes" were a valuable currency in the first place? Err, Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg. In a speech in London last year, she told the world that 50 million users liked a Facebook brand page every day.

Still, various people wanted to tell me about their very successful Facebook campaigns, and the social network itself points to companies such as Asos and Ford which have seen good results. Someone got in touch last week to tell me how well the government "GREAT" campaign to promote Britain abroad had used Facebook.

A number of "GREAT" Facebook pages have been set up:

  • Culture is Great Britain
  • Music is Great Britain
  • Technology is Great Britain

And so on, and in all they have now attracted nearly half a million likes. So who are these fans of our country and its products? The lead page is most popular amongst 18- to 24-year-olds in Rio de Janeiro - perhaps not the target market? - but the music page is hot in Hong Kong, which may be nearer the mark.

Facebook like sign

But has the campaign delivered value for the taxpayer? I asked the Cabinet Office how much of the campaign's £37m marketing budget had been spent on Facebook ads. I was told that this could not be disclosed, but someone close to the campaign reckons £70,000 has been spent so far with the social network. If true, that works out at about 14p a "like", which sounds reasonable value - if the "likes" are real people delivering that new marketing buzzword, engagement.

Which brings me back to VirtualBagel. I gained about 3,000 "likes" with no content and an advertising spend of £40, but the level of engagement on my page was close to zero. In other words, people weren't posting, or asking questions or even visiting the page at all.

Since I stopped advertising and started adding real content, I've only added about 300 "likes", but the level of engagement has soared, with vibrant discussions about the value of Facebook ads, and many more people listed as actually visiting the page.

Which chimes with what some other small businesses have told me - that Facebook can be a powerful way of having a conversation with your customers, but you don't necessarily need to pay for that.

"Our free marketing tools can be really powerful," a Facebook executive told me last week. I'm sure that is true - but it may not be the best message for a business that needs to convince investors that more and more companies want to pay for its advertisements.

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  • Comment number 17.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 16.

    "I ran a competition on Facebook for my business "

    and it was entered by people who wanted to win the prize rather than buy your product? Well, duh.

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    Comment number 15.

    When I'm bored I like to dismiss facebook adverts. There's an "other" checkbox. and you can give your reason for dismissing them. I then write brief reasons for dismissing it. Typical responses are "Facebook knows I'm married so why do I get dating adverts." or " Your advert seems to imply that because I like the Olympics I should consider buying your brand of alcohol"

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    Comment number 14.

    I ran a competition on Facebook for my business a short while ago based on the "Like and Share" approach and gathered in over 600 new "likes". Only after the competition was over did I discover that the vast majority of the profiles liking the page were either fake or set up to simply enter competitions, not what I thought it would be at all. Lesson learned.

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    Comment number 13.

    I'm researching the problem of how to analyse social media marketing, and recently presented some initial work at the WebSci'12 Conference. Social media marketing is by no means worthless, the problem is knowing what to measure to determine its value. The analogy I use is that you wouldn't judge the performance of a school child by the number of friends they have, so why should you with marketing?

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    Comment number 12.

    Good advertising = Exposure + Response

    The trouble with internet advertising is that you can have huge exposure and zero responses. Large advertisers know that the best way to advertise a website is on Television, where the response level is much higher than the internet.

    I do wonder whether internet advertising is vastly over valued. But I have only been doing advertising for 30 years...

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    Comment number 11.

    I worked as a peer advisor for a leading UK University.I created a Facebook page and asked students to like it. We got about 30% of students to like it but the conversation on the page wasn't that good.Problem is that many students were from nations where Facebook was banned and so they never had an account.FB is not a solution for all marketing campaigns..sometimes it better to not to have one.

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    Comment number 10.

    As others have said, "likes" are now bought, so the number of "likes" could just mean the number of x% off vouchers the company has "sold"

    In any case, "likes" without the balance of "dislikes" are meaningless. a product may get 1000's of "likes", but how many dislike it? Its the ratio of like to dislike that tells you how good something is, but Facebook doesn't give you that.

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    Comment number 9.

    Cont from earlier ...
    Unless you offer something to keep people happy then "like" wont work as an advertising tool.

    I could name a few that are always updating with info and pictures so their page always appears on my news feed, a constant reminder of them and their product.

    As advertising tools pages with constant updates work, where as pages that update once a week (if that) will never work

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    Comment number 8.

    If you're a seasoned Internet Marketer, you understand the power of Facebook and Facebook Ads - some of the comments below are from people 'condemning what they clearly don't know'.

    The internet is a numbers game...and Facebook has the numbers!

    There are many people making hundreds of thousands of $$$, some millions using Facebook Ads alone.

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    Comment number 7.

    I saw the Bagel page but didn't "like" as it had nothing to offer. I have and continue to, "Like" pages for the simple reason of entering compos or getting freebies. Many pages I visit once for the compo but I keep returning to a few as they provide interesting info, especially those connected to sports....

    Cont in next post...

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    Comment number 6.

    Yes I agree with VR59. It's in FB's interest for Sandberg to say that as it brings in even more dollars from the suckers who think FB's actually useful. It sometimes amazes me how gullible people are, especially where money is concerned.

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    Comment number 5.

    Facebook 'Likes' mean absolutely nothing. Many companies now use them as a 'payment' for allowing people to enter their competitions, i.e. you're not allowed to enter until you have 'Liked' the company on Facebook, which reinforces my point.

    As for Sheryl Sandberg, I recently saw her in an interview and she came across as smug and slimey, i.e. just like the saleswoman she is.

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    Comment number 4.

    Facebook Ads work - but you must know what you're doing! I recently took a Fan page from 2,000 to over 26,000 'Likes' - it's a very engaging page with posts typically receiving 700+ likes, 50+ comments and 200+ shares of the individual post! - Search for Gardening News

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    Comment number 3.

    No matter what the product is, aren't you more likely to get "Likes" from trigger-happy users who don't really know what they're doing anyway? I thought the whole point of the "Liking" system was that it was supposed to be organic. Social media firms spend thousands on trying to make things go viral when the whole process is, by definition, out of their control in the first place.

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    Comment number 2.

    I have never clicked on an ad in Facebook, a quick vox pop around the office and neither has anyone else I know.

    Who is clicking on these ads to make advertisers think they're actually meeting their audience?

    In a world of increasing web awareness and online retailers meeting tailored demand from a self generating client base, does advertising actually mean anything anymore?

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    Comment number 1.

    Facebook should do more to help advertisers target better.
    For example, it knows I'm married, but serves me wedding related adverts.
    It knows I'm in the UK and advertises American shops to me.
    It knows my religion, and advertises events related to a different religion.

    It should have a mechanism of acquiring relevant information from advertisers to guide their targeting correctly.



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